Update: Wife Won't Leave

[CombatRollParticipant 2594]

So I really thought it was a done deal. The Spoiled One agreed that we should split and I convinced her that mediation was the key to us both not losing our asses – and I reinforced that if I lost my ass it only hurt the kids. She understands that.

Then she does a 180. Says we need to go to marriage counseling (MC) and work on things. I say, no – we decided it was best to split.

I call my lawyer and she says to go to MC and it will help facilitate us splitting and make Spoiled One (S.O.) more amicable. “Go – it can’t hurt” the lawyer says.

S.O. makes good money, but spends most of it on herself while I pay the lion share of the bills. If I keep the house everything will be best for the kids b/c it will keep their lives more intact. If I have to leave and pay this mortgage AND for my own abode the kids will do without – namely it will rock my son’s boat who is off at university and making straight As.

She doesn’t want his apple cart upset – so this is my major leverage right now. But he only has 2 more years and after that my leverage is GONE. I think I can use his tuition as leverage to keep from paying alimony. So splitting now is advantageous for me.

We got to MC which was her idea mind you. We were given an assignment. We go yesterday and the kooky MC ask for our assignments. I whip mine out, typed up. S.O. – nothing. She didn’t care enough to do her assignment and the kooky ass MC didn’t call her out on not doing her homework! WTF.

Had this assignment meant she would have gotten Botox, a chemical face peel or a new outfit she would completed it in record time.

My lawyer calls me to “check in” over the weekend. (This seemed weird – she seems flirty, but thats another story). Lawyer asked , “So do you have a deal yet?”. I say no – she refuses to leave and wants to work on things and its driving me nuts.

My question to you guys: Have you successfully gotten your wife to LEAVE? I’m not talking about calling the cops and having her dragged out – but convinced he to leave??

Currently we are living under the same roof- but we don’t really speak unless its about kids or some mundane s~~~. Nothing meaningful. Oh – and I get laid every 2-3 days b/c I’m a horny SOB and she does this I think b/c she knows thats about all she can do to try and keep me. Sex for me is like brushing my teeth – she and I get off and then get up and go about our biz. Its bizarre.

So this is my existence and it sux. She seems perfectly happy to go about her life and appear to everyone that all is OK – she keeps her standard of living and we live a meaningless marriage.

I went and looked at apartments and could get one and furnish it – but I don’t see being able to pay for my son’s tuition and afford my place at the same time.

[SlayherParticipant 2074]

I’ve never been married but from what I’ve just read….?

WATCH YOUR ASS!

As a MGTOW I think the worst mistake a man can make is listen to a . Careful with your lawyer and remember the hive mentality.

Good luck and continue to keep us posted.

[Anonymous 1]

I had to legally evict a live in girlfriend took five months walking on egg shells. As for a wife calling the cops on her will more then likely end up with you being dragged out of the house.

For the time being I would focus on getting the divorce over with. It might be harsh but forgo paying your son tuition for now if it would move the split along. Would having him get a loan for the short term be an option?

don’t have relations with her. And only say the very minimum you have to.

[Anonymous 42]

Man, you’re caught between a rock and hard place!

From what very little information you provided on the Spoiled One she’s apparently wrapped as tight as a woman can be wrapped in narcissism.

Not once in my life have I ever witnessed a narcissist change their persona, every one of them will do the absolute minimum to maintain human relations~~~s.

In fact they’ve always become worse and less caring about the people around them, in many cases they become void of empathy and full of emotional abuse.

Only the reality of a WW III with mass starvation and fatalities will shake her loose, and only until things settle down into a new reality and norm.

You need to start squeezing every penny you can into a hidden go-fund-me for yourself.

Women have no idea how we tick and only keep moving away with society from that truth, we’re now foreign to one another in gender norms because women in power ERADICATED those norms!

Peace and mental relaxation is all I want in my life and I know a woman (any woman) will destroy that precious nutrient of life we all need.

[BoarParticipant]

1) The S.O.’s behavior is a delay tactic. Get out NOW!
2) WTF are you doing with a female lawyer? Get a MALE lawyer to watch your ass.

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

S.O. won’t leave, don’t hope for that. After a little more than a couple of months of cohabitation with my ball-and-chain, life like that was driving me to the brink of sanity. I essentially had to chew through my fibula and tibia like a trapped fox to start on MOW. It was a price high enough to pay that it ruined me financially. They won’t leave the place for the life of them. It’s all mental anguish from the moment the marital couple splits until the actual physical separation (your own address). You will not be able to coerce S.O. out definitely, if not temporarily. Let the blade fall and over with it. I’m months into my separation and it’s really hard, but there are moments when I feel like it was good riddance.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

You still have sex with her? Wtf? Tame the lizard now.
About the lawyer if she gets on your side she will be ruthless with you ex. If get on her side… I heard gulag is nice in this time of the year.

Watch your back your ex migth try to f~~~ you up for good.

Good luck brother and I’m sorry.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

BTW I chose a woman lawyer after having interviewed her (my s~~~ testing her), and she passed. Also, so far she has been doing a good job by my own account. Interview them, go for the one that fits your perspective, male or female. Many women have an aversion to the sneaky tactics of devious women so, if you get a woman lawyer, she’s likely to sniff out S.O.’s next move pretty easily if S.O. is the type that showcases her intended direction.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Women USE SEX as a CONTROL/MANIPULATION TACTIC. It’s ALL THEY HAVE !!

In my opinion, the longer you continue to have Sex with her the longer she will think that this whole divorce thing is NOT really going to happen because you’re still having sex. Hence, HER IDEA to go to C~~~seling even though she’s NOT participating.

If you do get towards the actual Divorce, she may “FEEL USED” by You because of the Sex and just get vindivtive/Bitchy. This will just make things Nastier and Stickier. Just a guess because NOBODY can EVER tell what a Women is going to do. UNPREDICTABLE

You should probably suggest to her “nicely” that since YOU’RE working towards Getting a DIVORCE maybe it would be better off for the BOTH of you that you didn’t have sex anymore or share the same bedroom.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[AttonParticipant]

This will not end peacefully by the sound of it.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[BoskParticipant 111]

Hello,

I have the same issue.
I have tried EVERYTHING to make her accept that we go both our way but she refused. Attempted suicide, etc.
I had to accept her deal for the moment as she JUST CAN’T manage our daughters properly if I am OUT of the equation.
Children can not manage children.

So here is her deal, because SHE LOVES ME SO MUCH (f~~~ing liar) she would die without me…
I have to be with her a few hours in the WE and one evening/night, in the middle of the week, I have to come back in our town home (my safe place being our country house even though mostly hers).
+ a few vacations a year with our “friends”

Conclusion: sometimes, you just have to compromise, ESPECIALLY if there are children in the equation. It may even be in your benefit but you shall reconsider the “deal” as often as possible.

Even though it’s hard, can you not consider her ONLY as some kind of FREE WHORE / a cleaning lady / Nanny ?
Mine is richer than me; does everything I want and our marriage contract is “assets split”: she asked for it ;=)

But it depends if it costs you too much (money, mental health, other “specific” risks associated to US women etc.).

I DO LIKE BEING ALONE NOW and it indeed costs me much to be with her but I am a MAN and can endure that s~~~ for a while.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

CombatRoll wrote:

She doesn’t want his apple cart upset – so this is my major leverage right now. But he only has 2 more years and after that my leverage is GONE. I think I can use his tuition as leverage to keep from paying alimony. So splitting now is advantageous for me.

What’s the difference? You either pay for school or for alimony. Money out of your pocket is money out of your pocket. The mediator could also suggest you pay her alimony and then you share in the tuition. When it’s done you still owe her alimony. I am just suggesting that you may have less leverage than you think. The mediator knows that tuition is only for a couple more years and alimony would be for longer than that, so you may be paying past the next two years anyway.

CombatRoll wrote:

Oh – and I get laid every 2-3 days b/c I’m a horny SOB and she does this I think b/c she knows thats about all she can do to try and keep me.

Then stop banging her. If you are THAT horny take care of it yourself. Is that really worth her having leverage over you?

Stop banging someone you hate and keep pushing forward with the divorce. Eventually she will get it.

I would tell her that once she brought up divorce it was over for you. You can’t unsay that and I can’t get over it. We’re done. And I don’t want to end up hating you, but if this keeps up I can’t say that I won’t.

Just my two cents, take it for what you will. And good luck.

Order the good wine

[OldBillParticipant]

CombatRoll wrote:

So I really thought it was a done deal.

You thought it was going to be that easy?

Sure, she’s purposely dragging things out but here’s what you don’t or won’t understand: Every time you put your c~~~ in her you’re convincing her that those delaying tactics are working.

You get laid every three days or so? So what? Are you divorced yet? You still get off in your wife? Who cares? Are you any closer to separating yet?

Put you dick away and start thinking with your big head.

Alimony this, college tuition that, house this, kids that, none of that s~~~ matters if you can’t get her into mediation and if you can’t get her to sign the papers.

Stop. F~~~ing. Her.

Why should she believe you want a separation when you can’t even separate your c~~~ from her meathole?

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[ubadomParticipant 6]

It appears that you value money and pussy more than peace of mind and personal contentment. There is no help for you until you change your priorities. A wise man once said “Better is a dry morsel and quietness with it Than a house full of feasting with strife.” and “It is better to live in a desert land than with a quarrelsome and fretful woman.” and “It is better to live in a corner of the housetop than in a house shared with a quarrelsome wife.”

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10911]

She’s stalling alright but ask yourself this; Is she stalling to try and keep the marriage together or is she stalling to gain more time to set up some kind of blitz attack on you?

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[jimbob15217Participant 491]

Are you trying to have another baby with her? It would be wise to stop f~~~ing her. Like yesterday.

[joetechParticipant]

I have no good advice, but I would make it clear to your attorney that I wanted to expedite things. Have you filed for divorce yet? I would, and I would get new living arrangements in place ASAP. Be careful, temporary orders set status quo arrangements that often end up permanent. If your attorney is worth her salt, she should be able to help you move forward on this, but remember, she charges by the hour. A quick settlement is NOT in any attorney’s best interest.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

CombatRoll wrote:

Oh – and I get laid every 2-3 days b/c I’m a horny SOB and she does this I think b/c she knows thats about all she can do to try and keep me. Sex for me is like brushing my teeth – she and I get off and then get up and go about our biz. Its bizarre.

Are you nuts?
Of course she won’t leave you keep proving she has power over you. What do you think she is f~~~ing you for?? Not for the pleasure of it. She just snaps the leash on your collar and off to bed you go. While she buys time to :: drain bank the accounts, set up a Chad to move in with or move in, get evidence against you.
Or set you up like a bowling pin
Getting a divorce and f~~~ing her. that sounds like rape to me with the evidence to prove it. It’s hard to defend yourself from a prison window.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[CombatRollParticipant 2594]

So, I do not have any common bank accounts with her (She couldn’t be trusted not to keep her hands out of the cookie jar).

I just emailed the kookie counselor and said I’m not coming back and I do not authorize any future billings, should S.O. choose to continue to attend.

@ubadom protecting my money has been a major driver in my inability make myself leave. The scales are tipping towards my sanity vs my assets. It’s just a hard f~~~ing pill to swallow that this selfish bitch who has not saved a dime, but only been red ink in my ledger gets half. Really f~~~ing hard to swallow.

@bosk Mine has a decent job and makes good money, but I out earn her by 35%. She lives like she makes a lot but I’m funding her lifestyle. My S.O. doesn’t love me or pretend to and if she said what your wife did I would tell her to “name her poison”.

@point of no return I know it’s going to be hard, but at this point how could it be s~~~tier than what I’m living now. I have the means to get a nice place – my problem is I have a lot s~~~ (toys, boats, stuff) and need to try and sell this s~~~ or store it somewhere. It really is a daunting thought to think about separating 20+ years of s~~~.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

CombatRoll wrote:

my problem is I have a lot s~~~ (toys, boats, stuff) and need to try and sell this s~~~ or store it somewhere. It really is a daunting thought to think about separating 20+ years of s~~~.

Suffer less pain now or suffer more pain later.

Your choice.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

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