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Same here, no sex work, no tinder.
If you really want have sex with women then you have to have a lot of social life, be somewhat chatty (about things that are uncommon arguments, mind), and you’ll have women sending you signals. Signals are, in order of importance:
Starting conversations
Smiling
Laughing for almost everything you say
Touching you – that is the most important thing. Physical contact mean she’s aroused, most times.
I don’t even take in consideration the first three.Well, f~~~ her signals. I will not have ‘a lot of social life’ in order to impress her, when I’m naturally introvert.
I’m no mind reader either (sometimes her touching you doesn’t mean she wants to f~~~ you, – actually who knows what the F~~~ women wants – besides $$$ and fresh attention, of course).Sounds like a LOT of work. My dayjob is more than enough work, thank you.
Lots of women are introverts too, the difference is they don’t have to impress a guy to make ‘human contact’ – they just have to be.
Indeed it IS a lot of work if you don’t like wasting time in pointless interactions with a lot of people.
Men should always consider that when they claim “I would like casual sex”.
Nothing comes for free: casual sex costs a lot of time in mostly pointless interactions with a lot of people + you have to wear a condom, while a fleshlight costs 49.9 $ including delivery + you have to buy even the lube.
The choice is up to you.However, you’re wrong about a thing: a woman touching you, during a conversation between you and her, while also being particularly friendly and smiling, MEAN that she wants to have sex with you. This is a fact.
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The only problem is this… they’ve all become completely unapproachable to me now.
I find that I’m now consciously avoiding interacting with women unless it’s absolutely necessary. Today it’s a liability just to be near one. I actually get a little nervous when one approaches me.
When I’m out and about in public, I’ll go out of my way just to avoid proximity with one. It might sound weird but I find myself doing that now. It’s like I see an imaginary sign that says “GO AROUND”. Am I the only one here that does this???
The only problem is this… they’ve all become completely unapproachable to me now.
I find that I’m now consciously avoiding interacting with women unless it’s absolutely necessary. Today it’s a liability just to be near one. I actually get a little nervous when one approaches me.
When I’m out and about in public, I’ll go out of my way just to avoid proximity with one. It might sound weird but I find myself doing that now. It’s like I see an imaginary sign that says “GO AROUND”. Am I the only one here that does this???
During election night I was checking the process, as candidate deputy major.
The president of the polling station was female, about 30, attractive.
She had a foot cramp, it’s very painful even if it lasts very few minutes. She was lying on the ground, dealing with the foot cramp.
I DID know how to make her feel better, I could just touch her foot in the right way.
I didn’t take action, it was a conscious decision, against my instinct.
So, I guess that it’s something similar to what you’re describing.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
However, you’re wrong about a thing: a woman touching you, during a conversation between you and her, while also being particularly friendly and smiling, MEAN that she wants to have sex with you. This is a fact.
Sadly it’s not a fact. I’ve tried that scenario (I’m sure lots of men have) – nice, friendly conversation at my place (it was a ‘date’), she would touch my arm frequently during the convo, and yet when I finally went for the kiss she’d pull back, saying she wasn’t ready for that (or whatever bulls~~~ excuse she had).
There’s no foolproof way to read a women like the PUA’s want you to believe (unless she drops on her knees and says ‘let me suck it’!), – you just got to take the chance, and risk all kinds of damage to yourself or your property afterwards, depending on her state of mind.
However, you’re wrong about a thing: a woman touching you, during a conversation between you and her, while also being particularly friendly and smiling, MEAN that she wants to have sex with you. This is a fact.
Sadly it’s not a fact. I’ve tried that scenario (I’m sure lots of men have) – nice, friendly conversation at my place, she would touch my arm frequently during the convo, and yet when I finally went for the kiss she’d pull back, saying she wasn’t ready for that (or whatever bulls~~~ excuse she had).
It happened even to me, sometimes.
Still, she was aroused.
The very fact that she said “I’m not yet ready for it” proves that she was aroused, it also proves that she still had self-control and that she was also trying to get more from you before granting you access to the pussy.
In such case you have to choose: either you keep trying or you give up. Costs/benefits analysis.
You’ll probably keep trying if the surrounding environment is poor or you have nothing better to do, and you’ll probably pass to the next target if the hunting ground is particularly rich or you suddenly feel the need to go home and masturbate.There’s no foolproof way to read a women like the PUA’s want you to believe (unless she drops on her knees and says ‘let me suck it’!), – you just got to take the chance, and risk all kinds of damage to yourself or your property afterwards, depending on her state of mind.
There’s no reason to read women: that’s why PUAs are at fault.
PUA is for losers: they try to minimize “damages” (rejections) by trying to read women’s minds and manipulate them. They’re afraid. That’s also why they insist (pretend to insist) on “very good looking women”: because being rejected by an average woman is more hurtful for their fragile ego.
If a man WANT casual sex he GET it: standard behavior, the behavior that is more likely to work, adjustments to the behavior by trying, re-trying and trying again, it must become an automatic thing and it’s the very opposite of what PUAs claim: the less you bother about what she could think (she could really think something? I don’t know and I don’t care!) the more efficient you become. When you fail a target, you immediatly pass to the next one. Zero F~~~s Given. You don’t bother if she’s a 7, a 8 or a 9: that’s unimportant, you’re out to have casual sex, you aren’t a judge in a beauty contest, who f~~~ing cares?
The only problem is: it’s REALLY a lot of work at the beginning, and it’s still quite a lot of work even when your approach becomes highly efficient due fine tuning through experience, and it’ll be quite a lot of work ALWAYS.
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The only problem is: it’s REALLY a lot of work at the beginning, and it’s still quite a lot of work even when your approach becomes highly efficient due fine tuning through experience, and it’ll be quite a lot of work ALWAYS.
I’d rather work for money though.
The only problem is: it’s REALLY a lot of work at the beginning, and it’s still quite a lot of work even when your approach becomes highly efficient due fine tuning through experience, and it’ll be quite a lot of work ALWAYS.
I’d rather work for money though.
Indeed, that’s the point.
The only difference between casual sex, having sex with a sex worker, using a fleshlight, is about validation.
Casual sex gives validation to young men who are still unexperienced.
When you have enough experiences you don’t need such validation anymore and you KNOW that working for money can grant you a fleshlight or an oriental massage with happy ending in 2/3/4 hours of work (that depends from the kind of job that you have) and that that does usually feels BETTER than casual sex using a condom.
So, we return to my initial question:What’s the point in having casual sex using a condom?
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The only problem is: it’s REALLY a lot of work at the beginning, and it’s still quite a lot of work even when your approach becomes highly efficient due fine tuning through experience, and it’ll be quite a lot of work ALWAYS.
I’d rather work for money though.
Indeed, that’s the point.
The only difference between casual sex, having sex with a sex worker, using a fleshlight, is about validation.
Casual sex gives validation to young men who are still unexperienced.
When you have enough experiences you don’t need such validation anymore and you KNOW that working for money can grant you a fleshlight or an oriental massage with happy ending in 2/3/4 hours of work (that depends from the kind of job that you have) and that that does usually feels BETTER than casual sex using a condom.
So, we return to my initial question:What’s the point in having casual sex using a condom?
I see what you mean but there are other reasons why men don’t want to f~~~ sex workers. Disease would probably be top of the list for most.
Personally, I just hate the thought of stroking a woman’s ego by paying for her body. I’m a decent looking guy and take good care of myself… I shouldn’t ever have to pay for sex. None of us should.
We are the prize.
Personally, I just hate the thought of stroking a woman’s ego by paying for her body. I’m a decent looking guy and take good care of myself… I shouldn’t ever have to pay for sex. None of us should.
Men PAY for SEX either directly or indirectly. If you are NOT paying directly then at least one of these other forms of payment “usually” comes into play: Dates (Dinners, Movies, Shows, Trips ETC.), Time (Calling, Texting, Talking, Attention, Emotional Support, ETC.), Utility (Favors, Repairs to HER House or Car ETC.). The catch is that NONE of these guarantee Sex as Repayment.
Some Men may get a “Free Lunch” once in a while, but some men also get arrested for false rape accusations as well. Like everything else in life, theirs a certain amount of risk one must assume with every interaction.
My point is that Men have ALWAYS PAID for Sex either with their Cash or their Utility or some combination of both. Married Women are just HO’S that agreed to be one man’s HO. Of course, that’s not always the case, but at least it’s the original agreement.
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Most men seek more validation from women that sex. Sure, it is nice to have sex with hot woman but there are alternatives to that.
But there is no alternative if you are seeking female validation, specially so if you are blue piller unaware of what is going on.
Not saying OP is struggling with that, more so because he lets women parade in shorts around (not really helpful in controlling urges) but unaware blue pillers have no idea they are primary seeking ego validation and not sex.
The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny
I’ll go out of my way just to avoid proximity with one. It might sound weird but I find myself doing that now. It’s like I see an imaginary sign that says “GO AROUND”. Am I the only one here that does this???
After we all know the type of trouble women “serve up” and knowing that unicorns don’t exist, makes interacting with them a waste of time.
It’s like driving around senselessly and for no reason when the roads have black ice on them. The risk/reward ratio is just out of control.
Doing time in the slammer over a rape-crying c~~~ is also more and more common in these days.
The risk of having your home and your expensive s~~~ wrecked because that little enemy (trained by feminism) wants to “give it to you good”…
A man that has clearly noticed how women were raised and hypnotized to hate men has all right to be scared of the thought of living next to one.
And being scared and then wanting sex?
Evolution has created men not to have a hard-on when hunting or fighting. And if you know what dangers these special spoiled snowflakes can mean to you, you just no longer have feelings for them.
I have lost interest because at a start of any interaction women “send out” insults to test if she can control you. And this is the point at which I already sign off.
Being “scared” of the insults and endless discussions of the “why and what” concerning my personality removes the blood flow from my dick…
A simple biological reaction that will eventually lead to the extinction of the human race…
My dick (and that of millions of men) goes in reverse gear upon shaming language, insulting words, disrespect, derision and exposing me in front of her hive…
In mental and business training I was taught to “Begin with the end in mind” and that’s simply what I do.
I do not begin, knowing what the end is always like.
The “common case behavior of the common woman” is so predictable that I see it for what it is, know that I can’t do anything about it and I don’t lose energy over trying to change it.
Woman just are.
Let the men with uncontrolled hormonal drives have them.
After growing up in “borderline and narcissist hell” for the first 23 years, I have the “1000 yard stare” when it comes to women.
Since 1991, I opted for the “no pain, all gain” lifestyle what is now called MGTOW.
German TV helps a lot in getting rid of that sex-drive.
We have the most vile family and relationship drama TV shows – many notches above “Jerry Springer” and the worst thing about them is that they are NOT FICTION.
Our woman watch this s~~~ and adopt these behavioral patterns. As we all know – they are easy to influence.
Germany is on the brink of extinction. We are the lowest in birth rates, next to Japan.
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She was lying on the ground, dealing with the foot cramp.
I DID know how to make her feel better, I could just touch her foot in the right way.
I didn’t take action, it was a conscious decision, against my instinct.It’s interesting that you mentioned that. Just the other day I was driving up the highway and I asked myself “If I saw a bleeding and injured woman on the side of the road, would I stop to help”?
I just couldn’t decide. I mean our legal system is just so horrifically biased and f~~~ed-up it doesn’t seem to be worth the liability anymore. If I did help, I am most certain that I wouldn’t let her get into my car.
There was a recent thread about a medical paramedic who was falsely accused of ‘touching’. If the professionals are now liable for this kinda s~~~ it must be even worse for the layman.
It wouldn’t be so bad if the courts didn’t have such degenerate retarded f~~~s sitting in the judge’s chair, but there it is. Would anyone here NOT stop to help in such a situation???
Personally, I just hate the thought of stroking a woman’s ego by paying for her body. I’m a decent looking guy and take good care of myself… I shouldn’t ever have to pay for sex. None of us should.
Men PAY for SEX either directly or indirectly. If you are NOT paying directly then at least one of these other forms of payment “usually” comes into play: Dates (Dinners, Movies, Shows, Trips ETC.), Time (Calling, Texting, Talking, Attention, Emotional Support, ETC.), Utility (Favors, Repairs to HER House or Car ETC.). The catch is that NONE of these guarantee Sex as Repayment.
I know, and I won’t be paying in those ways either. I refuse to pay for sex… in any form.
I do however, think that sex workers are the best choice of all the “pay” options. At least they’re honest.
Still… there’s nothing stopping a prostitute from crying rape either.
What is the pivotal reason behind pursuing sex? The physiological ecstasy that accommodates the hormonal release of the climax.
It’s a simple cost-benefit analysis:
1. Expend a significant amount (hundreds) of your dollars, a significant amount your time (10s of hours), a significant amount of your energy (any amount is too much), and a significant amount of your general resources (any amount is too much) to cajole and woo a woman into letting you achieve those few seconds of pleasure associated with the dynamic frictional act (sex) with her vagina. After your physiological climax, you still may continue to incur additional fiscal, time, and general resource expenditure drains due to her, even without the benefit of a secondary climax.
or…
2. Watch porn at a cost of your monthly internet bill (fixed cost), and be done within five minutes (or less); a fleshlight will also suffice. No talking, or any other inefficient (unneeded) resource expenditures will be incurred.
None of them is realistic if a have to do a 50-50 split of assets, or 18 years of child support.
NONE.
This is one of the deciding factors that pushed me towards the “f~~~ marriage” mind set. If I had some chick try to tie me down when I was 23 I wouldn’t have thought about the finances nearly as much as realistically I only had a few years of work at relatively low wage jobs behind me and even if I had kids in my early 20s child support would have been over by my mid 40s so I’d still have had time to recover before retirement. Plus when I was just starting out in life, if I had a partner I’d have approached things with more of a team mentality, but now that I’m already fairly well established on my own and nobody helped me get here, bringing a woman on board is more like a parasite than a team mate.
Fast forward to 33 though…I’m pretty frugal and have upped my wages quite a bit so I have a good chunk of change in the bank which would make a 50/50 split(if I got that lucky) even more painful and if I had a couple kids followed by divorce now that is going to push me into my mid 50s as far as being a financial slave to the ex, which means the odds of being able to retire before 60 at that point are pretty much non-existent. Alternatively if I just plug along single and keep doing what I’m doing for the foreseeable future I can probably retire at 40 +/- 2 years depending how my investments do.
I’m having a real hard time finding a woman I’m so wildly attracted to that the prospect of sex with her for a few years is potentially putting myself on the line for a bill that would be well into the six figures or possible 7 figures out of my pocket. That amount of money could buy me prostitutes and a maid for life if I desired…why the hell would I want to blow it on a divorce that might leave me with nothing but a sour taste in my mouth instead?
The only problem is this… they’ve all become completely unapproachable to me now.
I find that I’m now consciously avoiding interacting with women unless it’s absolutely necessary. Today it’s a liability just to be near one. I actually get a little nervous when one approaches me.
When I’m out and about in public, I’ll go out of my way just to avoid proximity with one. It might sound weird but I find myself doing that now. It’s like I see an imaginary sign that says “GO AROUND”. Am I the only one here that does this???
I treat all females of any age as if they were a dangerous wild animal. One that may be domesticated but still has their wild instincts intact. I give them a wide berth.
"Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place.” Quote from Arthur Shopenhauer, 17th century philosopher
I will hit 40 soon. I’m pretty sure my testosterone levels have dropped to the point where, although I’m still horny and jerk it at least once a day, I just don’t care enough about women to pursue them like I used to.
Add to that all the horrific s~~~ I’ve seen my buddies go through with false accusations regarding domestic violence, suffering from domestic violence from their women, separation, divorce rape, and child theft.
It was difficult to even put out any effort before I found the red pill 2 years ago.
Now with the red pill my motivation for even a casual encounter has plummeted to nothing.
#MANOUT
I treat all females of any age as if they were a dangerous wild animal. One that may be domesticated but still has their wild instincts intact. I give them a wide berth.
That’s pretty much the way I see it too. I also carry my wallet wrapped in tin foil inside a zip-lock freezer bag. Women are attracted by the scent of cash and credit cards… 😀
Women became invisible to me once i got a fleshlight and VR porn. Before that i used to pursue women for sex. Everything Eric Lauder has said is correct.
Don’t stress brother. I’m right there with you. Had my leg over twice in two years and it’s never actually worth it. Chill kick up your feet, crack a beer grab a block of cheese.
Peace is > piece.
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