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The prison reform should release the criminals into South American countries. It’s only fair.
Trump had tight prenups with all his wives. What he should be doing is taking the clauses of his prenups, and making them law.
I have lost my faith in Trump. He virtue signaled he was going to be a ruthless dictator, and instead has been a puppy dog rolling over every time. I am with Coulter on this. I can only make so many excuses for the man, before we have to just look at his accomplishments, which are nothing.
One of the changes in the Trump taxcuts was that Puerto Rico and other domains of the U.S. outside of the U.S. States cannot be used as tax shelters.
Show me that part of the bill and then show me is what is being done to those who have used those shelters? is there any Imprisonment? arrests? fines? a demanding of the Caymen Islands and those alike to give all of the tax haven money back to where it belongs? or it this at very most an appeal to make an unpopular bill slightly more popular?
Now, you are just splitting hairs.
No i am not simply because i could argue since lower Gas prices under Obama could be considered to be caused by him in some way just as you mention how Trump is tied with the recent cut in Gas prices. And outside of that i can also argue that Gas prices was a natural fall in price would Trump would love to gloat over but was occurring naturally with or without Donald Trump (Trump could still be in his New York high rise the price would probably remain around the same rate).
It seems you believe the progressive fake media
This is either ignorance or intentionally bulls~~~ as my sources i mentioned are not mainstream media in anyway. Secular Talk is a left wing resource which is not CNN, or Fox News or the like (sure as hell not mainstream as Fox News is) the second source is a right wing leaning Libertarian site. Now tell me how at least the second one is Progessive fake media (the first one is Liberal but more Liberal then sources like CNN are).
President Trump is supporting prison reform.
Finally a good thing after 65 bad things if i grant you the argument here and Trump is not pushing for some bulls~~~ that the Globalists would just love to enjoy that is in favor of locking up more People forever.
No. The treason against President Trump is open and clear.
The treason against Obama was evident and clear yet you whine that People do not fall in line with Trump even when he has been a criminal and a shady f~~~ for all of his life. Now what is your definition of Treason?
There is no such thing as “centrist democrat”. Democrats are either corporate globalists. Or, democrats are fascists posing as communists.
That is the black and white fallacy which is clearly untrue but of course you probably will rationalize why someone like a Social Democrat or other versions of the left wing actually don’t exist because Politics is on a spectrum. Now if i was to argue in your manner id state there are only 2 types of Conservatives either Fascist Neo Nazi Corporatists or retarded Southern Hicks id be arguing the same as you are and id be wrong
But even better then that how could you be correct? if you state such bulls~~~ you need to prove it.
whom have been censoring tens of millions of U.S. citizens for daring to be Pro-U.S.
Trump’s laws still permit the blocking of free speech on Social media something he could have tackled if he had wanted too by simply putting in regulation that puts giant companies and requires them to tolerate free speech on their platforms.
The DNC already changed the rules so Bernie cannot run on a democrat ticket for president.
Nothing is confirmed in this world especially when we magically had Donald Trump win the Republican ticket and that is ignoring that there are plans in place at the moment to make the Democratic party more Liberal. I don’t know if Bernie is running but even a Person like him would beat Donald Trump. So we will have to see the future but i hope Donald Trump at least loses.
You project what the democrats are doing on President Trump
The Democrats being criminal does not make Donald Trump a non criminal in any manner.
Now for a quick point for the other guy
The oil companies themselves lowered prices by increasing supply via shale mining/drilling. Particularly in 2015-2016 when shale oiloutput was at peak.
This here shows regulation providing innovation because the fact is the oil Companies will drill wherever permitted to regardless of the climate and to push for the betterment of the Climate (by obtaining cleaner ways of energy).
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
Philosophy, politics and law. Some of the most wonderful ways to make use of your time on this planet. You know what those LOW gas prices did? Made it so guys like me that lived in his car for a year could keep the engine running and stay warm.
So many of you I feel live in some kind of la la land. You got problems in your own backyard, and you are still expecting others to take care of them for you?
Before you start running you need to learn to walk first. Your car has no gas, you are not going to the racetrack with bald tires.
In math there is this thing called reducing. Try doing that. 🙂
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
SandalsParticipant 2594The prison reform should release the criminals into South American countries. It’s only fair.
Only if they came from South America. Don’t dump your problems elsewhere, or they will become even larger. If they came from SA and caused problems, send them back. If they came from elsewhere, send them elsewhere back.
The US has dumped a lot of s~~~ in SA since the Cold War era, and that is why most of the South American countries still despise anything US.
"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
Is Trump perfect? No. But is he part of the “Establishment” group of life long corrupt politicians who go to Washington and get rich? No, he earned his money – like it or not.
The Washington politicians made their money off of our backs and through corrupt kickbacks and lobby money. I’ll take Trump over non-businessmen who make a career of fleecing us and doing nothing to better our lot in life.
I’m also for equality in taxation. Don’t penalize me for doing well. Tax me the same % whether I make $40k or $400k. Why should a person who makes more money pay a larger percentage? Unfair.
Don’t believe the news agencies. There is no “news” anymore, only rants and commentary. The libs control the news outlets and daily we get a barrage of anti-Trump trash talk.
Its impossible to give them a meaningful tax cut because they pay jack s~~~ in taxes to begin with. Almost half the country doesn’t pay any federal income taxes. We should institute a mandatory minimum tax on those f~~~ers just so we all have some skin in the game.
True. And correct me if I’m wrong, but these low earners who don’t pay any federal taxes get a “refund” from the Feds don’t they? This can’t by definition be a “refund” if nothing is paid in! This is a “handout”.
Don’t penalize me for doing well. Tax me the same % whether I make $40k or $400k. Why should a person who makes more money pay a larger percentage? Unfair.
THAT has always Bugged me. You work harder, so you need less from the government, but you spend more for Taxes to pay for things you do not require nor desire?
And then the best part is, you pay for people who hate you for being able to hate you? Let that sink in.
This goes as far as voting. That c~~~ that just got out of highschool, her vote is just as important as yours. So, at any time, they can take everything you own away from you with a vote. Any amount of money or wealth or freedom.
And, when they do that? They make laws that make your company go BROKE. If not your country.
So here is where it gets retarded. The SIDEWALK was put in by the city. BUT THE CITY IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR PEOPLE GETTING HURT IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE OR SIDEWALK. You want to know why so many people don’t have sidewalks in front of their house? Cus if it gets snowy or ICY, you are responsible for the city for when your sidewalk is in disrepair. How? But you pay PROPERTY TAXES FOR WHAT?
You pay S~~~ TONS in GAS TAX, but the roads still look like s~~~?
You PAY to have a DMV, but you wait HOURS there?
YOU PAY ALL THIS MONEY. And you get ZERO BENEFIT. And all it takes is some WHINY POOR PEOPLE or KIDS to TELL YOU that SCHOOL should be free, We need to tax the rich more, and White people are the f~~~ing Problem cuz for some reason they happen to be the people working to have a job for you to go to?
And the BIGGEST POS? The Government talks about Birth rates yet funds abortion? And BIRTH CONTROL? Says Murder is wrong, yet guns down people for traffic tickets.
Tells its citizens that they are safe, yet openly encouraged people from other lands to come in and f~~~ our values up?
And the best part is, NO ONE DOES S~~~ TILL THERE ARE OPEN RIOTS OUTSIDE, and those f~~~ers PROVE that the best way to change is to just F~~~ S~~~ UP since VOTING CLEARLY DOES NOT WORK.
Do I make myself clear?
Let me break this down a bit more.
If women and men both have voting rights, then men should all put on the ballot this next year that MENS TAXES GO ONLY TO PAY FOR THINGS THAT BENEFIT MEN DIRECTLY. They already said in congress that MEN are NOT NEEDED TO RAISE KIDS. So since MEN DO NOT HAVE KIDS, Only womens taxes should be used to pay for the things they vote for. THAT SOUNDS FAIR TO ME>
If women want WOMEN’S SHELTERS? LET THEM PAY FOR IT. WOmen have jobs now, they are A S~~~ TON OF THE WORK FORCE, LET THEM PAY FOR THE S~~~ THEY WANT>
You do this? You don’t even have to take away voting rights. Come on TFM, why did you not think about this?
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Yesssss Exactly.
Two comments.
Whether we are talking about alimony or child support, I do not think the government should have the ability to force payment from one person to another AND tax that money. It’s either tax free, or the person who receives the money has to pay income tax…since they are receiving the income after all.
The other comment is that I cringe every time I hear anyone talk about a fair tax, or certain classes paying their fair share. Government services is the only thing we buy where the prices is dependent on your income, not on the services rendered. Which is absolute lunacy. Imagine if the price of a car cost Jeff Bezos a million dollars, but a person without a job could get one for free. That’s essentially what are tax system is.
What we call fair is basically letting politicans deciding how much money the different economic classes to get to keep. And they don’t decide by any sense of fairness, but rates will maximize campaign donations and votes.
So no, there shouldn’t be a different rate based on income bracket. There shouldn’t be a rate at all. Take the cost of to run the government and spread the bill equally amoungst the citizens. And yes, I realize that we have poor that can’t pay, and some people use way more government services than others. Taxes/tolls that tend to fit usage patterns are good. At the very least, let’s stop pretending there is anything remotely fair about income based taxation.
Ok. Then do it.
Obama didnt do one f~~~ing thing to lower gas prices. He enacted laws that restricted regular drilling techniques and put more land off limits for use.
I know. Tell that to the other guys.
Whether we are talking about alimony or child support, I do not think the government should have the ability to force payment from one person to another AND tax that money.
I agree. Unfortunately, the government double downed on this with Obamacare, the Supreme Court ruled government can force people to hand money directly over to corporations under penalty of government mandated punishment.
We are lucky that President Trump is in office because it is likely there will reach a point that there will be a revolt over government mandating that the people must submit to being debt slaves to the banks and corporations or go to prison.
Show me that part of the bill and then show me is what is being done to those who have used those shelters?
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/26/heres-how-an-obscure-tax-change-sank-puerto-ricos-economy.html
“That fiscal mess, partly the result of a prolonged downturn that lingered long after the rest of the U.S. had recovered from the Great Recession, has its roots in the repeal of a controversial corporate tax break that helped spark an exodus from the island and sent its economy into reverse.”
No i am not simply because i could argue since lower Gas prices under Obama could be considered to be caused by him in some way just as you mention how Trump is tied with the recent cut in Gas prices. And outside of that i can also argue that Gas prices was a natural fall in price would Trump would love to gloat over but was occurring naturally with or without Donald Trump (Trump could still be in his New York high rise the price would probably remain around the same rate).
A Secret Agent MGTOW pointed out early on this forum, Obama did his best to keep oil companies from drilling in oceans and parts of the U.S. Obama was to ignorant to go after Oil Shale.
This is either ignorance or intentionally bulls~~~ as my sources i mentioned are not mainstream media in anyway.
Here, read this: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-19/spiegel-journalist-who-faked-stories-committed-journalistic-fraud-grand-scale
That is the tip of the iceberg.
Finally a good thing after 65 bad things if i grant you the argument here
List those 65 “bad things” and provide a source. I provided a source, now it is your turn.
The treason against Obama was evident and clear yet you whine that People do not fall in line with Trump even when he has been a criminal and a shady f~~~ for all of his life. Now what is your definition of Treason?
No. The treason was evident when Obama went on his apology tour to publicly bow to every major dictator in the world, he continued all the police state tactics of the Bush Administration, used military to invade more nations, he over saw trillions and trillions of dollars printed and given to banks and corporations, he helped passed massive government regulations and taxes that people could not afford, and he mocked the hard working U.S. citizens at every chance he had.
That is the black and white fallacy which is clearly untrue but of course you probably will rationalize why someone like a Social Democrat or other versions of the left wing actually don’t exist because Politics is on a spectrum.
I follow the money. Unlike you I do not follow lies. I verify what I read from different sources.
Trump’s laws still permit the blocking of free speech on Social media
“Trump’s law”? What law is this? Provide the name and link to the law.
The only thing President Trump and his allies have been doing is supporting freedom of speech.
Education Secretary Betsy Devos has already had regulations implemented that give people on colleges more freedom of speech and better access to their due process rights.
Nothing is confirmed in this world especially when we magically had Donald Trump win the Republican ticket
Now this is direct fraudulent projection of what Hillary did to Bernie onto President Trump.
President Trump had 16 competitors in the GOP primary and Hillary. Hillary rigged the DNC primary for her to win. Wikileaks and other sources confirmed that.
don’t know if Bernie is running but even a Person like him would beat Donald Trump.
Keep underestimating President Trump.
The Democrats being criminal does not make Donald Trump a non criminal in any manner.
There you go with more fraudulent projection. President Trump has been investigated for three years. The only things that have come out is he was the victim of blackmail, and paying off a blackmailer with your own money in a traceable way is not a crime. The only “crimes” tied to him have been proven to be entrapment by the government officials that allied with Hillary.
The oil companies themselves lowered prices by increasing supply via shale mining/drilling. Particularly in 2015-2016 when shale oiloutput was at peak.
Actually, oil output is climbing. For every middle eastern nation that cuts output, there is an U.S. drilling oil shale site build and pumping out.
Oil Shall technology has reached the point that they can turn a profit of around $30 a barrel. Right now
Oil prices are dropping like a rock at the pump. When oil prices drop, the price of goods drop. This is called deflation.
The reason the stock market is in free-fall is because the deflation is causing futures and speculation market to go sideways.
A lot of rich people had their money in speculation markets and they caught paying the difference. This has caused them to cash out other stocks. This is called a correction.
The stock market will settle out and be fine.
Meanwhile the working class of main street will do fine with falling prices for products.
This here shows regulation providing innovation because the fact is the oil Companies will drill wherever permitted to regardless of the climate and to push for the betterment of the Climate (by obtaining cleaner ways of energy).
It must p~~~ you off that people are openly resisting your tyrannical policies of seizing all the wealth of the people and enslaving the people on the false claim doing so will “save the environment.”
And people are waking up from the MAGA movement to Brexit, to the Brazilian presidential election, to the Yellow Vest movement of France and the rest of Europe, even parts of Canada.
Things are changing and for the better for the people, not the globalists.
America!
Land of the slaves, HOME of the renters.
If you say it twice it might ring true in your mind.
ITS ALL OVER RED ROVER!.
Oh my, how the mighty have fallen.
I think i stated he will as in he will raise taxes on the poorer People as that is part of the tax cut plan if his policy sticks over the next decade as the middle class and poorer tax cuts are limited unlike the tax cuts for the rich which are stated to last beyond that. Just give us a Republican president for the next decade or so and the tax cuts will stop for the poorer among us.
Nobody is raising taxes on the poor, the poor aren’t paying any federal income taxes as is. Did you miss that part about almost half the country doesn’t pay any federal income taxes. Besides if they charged them all a 100 dollar citizenship fee or something, I’d be ok with it, they should have to pay something.
The point of a Progressive tax system is the more someone makes the higher the tax rate is
Why do you think I specifically mentioned the uber rich paying mostly capital gains taxes?
If you go to work and make 250k, your top tax bracket ends up being 35%. If you have a billion dollars floating around the stock market and make 100 million in capital gains next year, your top tax bracket ends up being 20%. The richest don’t have the highest tax rates. Buffet, Gates, Bezos, etc…their salaries are a joke, its all capital gains for them.
I know what a progressive tax system is, but apparently you don’t realize we don’t actually have one.
Ah no as even the most boring Centrist Democrat would have done a better job then Trump, the only one i personally could see doing worse would be Ted Cruz.
Hillary would have done a better job?
Pretty easy to do if you have a real populist left candidate running for Office who pushes policies People actually want instead of bills which take away your internet privacy rights, deregulate, hurt the climate and give giant tax cuts to the top 1 percent. If the Democrats are not complete f~~~heads in 2020 having a Bernie Sanders (or someone akin to him) run would beat out Donald Trump and sure as hell beat out Mike Pence as Mikey was a pick to appeal to Conservative Christians and you need more then them to win (like the Workers, the young People, those in the more Democratic states, swing states, the rust belt etc).
If the democrats aren’t complete f~~~heads? Come on dude…they couldn’t wait to make Pelosi speaker again, and look how hard they are propping up Ocasio-Cortez as their new poster child. They might win the next election, I can’t read the future, but they aren’t going to stop being complete f~~~heads in the near future.
a controversial corporate tax break that helped spark an exodus from the island and sent its economy into reverse.”
Puerto Rico is one of many places where Tax evasion did (or does) occur. The tax breaks you mention are for setting up your Business in Puerto Rico and not just the transfer of Wealth that you do not want to disclose as it would be taxed in the States. And with Puerto Rico you also forget the Jones act which means products shipped to Puerto Rico must be on US owned and operated ships along with the fact that Puerto Rico is considered a US territory.
This makes products more expensive and reduces free trade as Puerto Rico cannot freely trade with it’s Neighbors.
Obama did his best to keep oil companies from drilling in oceans and parts of the U.S
A positive thing.
That is the tip of the iceberg.
You mentioned CNN, i don’t mention CNN so it is irrelevant, i listed my sources both of which are against Trump none of which are considered the mainstream media. They are not Fox News, CNN, MSNBC. CBS. the New York times, the Associated Press etc. Now since i mentioned my sources (about 3 times now i believe) what are yours?
List those 65 “bad things” and provide a source. I provided a source, now it is your turn.
The end of net neutrality, removing privacy rules on the Internet (which means ISP’s can now sell your data on the Internet without your consent and by data i don’t mean credit card information). His moving of the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, his end of the Iran deal, he is probably gonna shut down the Government by Christmas, his pick of a man fine with NSA or at least Warrantless spying to the supreme court along with the Judges desire to get rid of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. His actions which support fracking, his refusal to show his tax returns. his first raid in office which killed an American girl. His desire to ban bump stocks etc.
Each of these can easily be looked up on the Internet and i have mentioned sources against Trump (which are Globalist media) before
Obama went on his apology tour to publicly bow to every major dictator in the world
Of course you push this Neo con bulls~~~ which brings up that Trump met up with the Dictator of North Korea yet did you (or will you) bitch about that fact? also what is better improving relations even with Countries we don’t agree with or worsening them potentially causing another war in which many People will die in just so the US can elect either a puppet Government or create a new threat (ISIS did not exist till after Saddam was forced out of Office.
“Trump’s law”? What law is this? Provide the name and link to the law.
I mean the laws of Donald Trump, the s~~~ he actually pushes you f~~~tard, He as President could at least push for a change to get Social Media Companies to support freedom of speech yet he has done jacks~~~ so far about it.
Education Secretary Betsy Devos has already had regulations implemented that give people on colleges more freedom of speech and better access to their due process rights.
I said on Social Media don’t throw a red herring here (i did not talk about University).
Hillary rigged the DNC primary for her to win. Wikileaks and other sources confirmed that.
Yes this is true however if no such rigging occurred Bernie Sanders would have likely won the election akin to Obama in 08.
he was the victim of blackmail, and paying off a blackmailer with your own money in a traceable way is not a crime
Even if it was not an intentionally crime committed Trump still f~~~ed up. Even if Trump paid the hush money out of pocket you don’t pay that as that is an admission of guilt.
of seizing all the wealth of the people
There is a word of what that is called where i am from and that is Mierda (aka s~~~). Nor my plan, nor Bernies nor other Social Democrats have People seizing all the wealth you dishonest liar. It is called a progressive tax system which has different brackets and taxes which affect all money made above certain points (as different percents none of which takes all of the money). But since the most popular view is Bernie Sanders which that (despite him being called a Socialist or a Commie) does not confiscate all of the Wealth above even the highest points.
You are full of s~~~ buddy.
MAGA movement to Brexit, to the Brazilian presidential election, to the Yellow Vest movement of France and the rest of Europe, even parts of Canada
Except that Maga is all in line with the Globalists, Brexit will still remain in line with them (it is not like English People now kick out all non Brits). Brazil has a typical right wing puppet, the yellow vest movement began as a rebellion against putting the burden of climate change on the Workers instead of the Companies. It depends on the specifics in other parts of Europe and Canada has more right wingers but will they actually swing the Country?
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
Besides if they charged them all a 100 dollar citizenship fee or something, I’d be ok with it, they should have to pay something.
That is where State taxes comes into effect.
Why do you think I specifically mentioned the uber rich paying mostly capital gains taxes?
The idea about this is to increase the Capital gains tax on money earned through that means. Of course it is not here yet but eventually it will be fought for (just as any example of any bill was not at a specific time). So yes you are correct they pay a lower percent of taxes due to them profiting from the Stocks not being counted as Income taxes (and using the lower Capital gains taxes).
I know what a progressive tax system is, but apparently you don’t realize we don’t actually have one
I have to agree here but as i state above it is something People must fight for in order to obtain.
Hillary would have done a better job?
Yes however it would not make her a great President by any means as the best analogy i can put it as is very smelly garbage vs smelly garbage, both of them are still garbage but one of them is just smelly and the other is very smelly so it does not make garbage good.
If the democrats aren’t complete f~~~heads?
Democrats are f~~~heads the same way of the smelly garbage analogy however the reason why Social Democrats are turning to the Democratic party is the fact we have a 2 party system in America and they are needed to win elections with third parties not doing as well, aka Libertarian and constitution parties as examples. Even Libertarian Gary Johnson was Governor as a Republican.
look how hard they are propping up Ocasio-Cortez as their new poster child.
Actually Social Democrats and Social Democrats who call themselves Democratic Socialists use her as a poster child. Maybe there are some famous People (i don’t have examples) who support her due to policy but i am not seeing the big prop up here (unless it is from the Social Democrats who got elected in the mid terms as they gain popularity).
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
That is where State taxes comes into effect.
Its no different in my state…the bottom 20% in my state paid 0 income taxes, and a large portion above them get more in various tax credits and welfare programs than they pay in taxes. Its pretty much a joke to say someone who received 20,000 dollars in various state subsidies, then turned around and paid 200 in state income taxes actually paid state income taxes.
I have to agree here but as i state above it is something People must fight for in order to obtain.
I don’t want to fight for it…I want to fight for lower taxes and less government spending. I’d prefer to pay 15-20% on my income AND capital gains rather than high income tax rates, jack up capital gains rates, and just throw more money into the abyss known as government coffers.
We had a temporary income tax after the civil war to pay war debt off. It went away eventually as the debt was paid down, and came back in 1913, and has been here ever since. Throughout most of this countries history we did just fine with no federal income tax…and now people are arguing that paying over 1/3 of your income to the federal government isn’t enough? Its insane.
Its no better in my state. We didn’t have an income tax til1 1991…now we have an income tax, more and higher of just about every other tax you can imagine, and the state has more debt and is running larger deficits than ever. Guess what…democrats dominate our political system in this state. High tax big spending policies are f~~~ing retarded, unless you are one of the people not paying for it, then they are awesome.
Yes however it would not make her a great President by any means as the best analogy i can put it as is very smelly garbage vs smelly garbage, both of them are still garbage but one of them is just smelly and the other is very smelly so it does not make garbage good.
Yeah we’d be doing so much better right now if we had granted tens of millions of illegals amnesty and threw them all on welfare(and set a great example for why tens of millions more should just come here illegally), appointed multiple activist liberal judges to the supreme court, started forgiving student loans left and right, free healthcare for all…unless you work, then you have to pay for it, etc.
This country isn’t going to get better if we hit a point where 60% of people don’t pay any federal taxes, its going to get worse. Sadly we’re headed in that direction…which is also why I’d advocate for anyone with the financial means to have an exit plan. I don’t know why I’d want to stay here and waste my life working just to support a broken bloated system when I can set up passive income streams that will keep me in a relatively low income bracket here, then go move to another country where my money goes 2-3x as far and live like a king. Going and living a simple lifestyle on the beach down in South America or Asia is so much more appealing than subsidizing single moms via big daddy government.
Except that Maga is all in line with the Globalists
Can you please further elaborate on this point? I’m curious how you came to this conclusion.
Where is the “65 bad things” list you claim against President Trump?
Puerto Rico is one of many places where Tax evasion did (or does) occur. The tax breaks you mention are for setting up your Business in Puerto Rico and not just the transfer of Wealth that you do not want to disclose as it would be taxed in the States. And with Puerto Rico you also forget the Jones act which means products shipped to Puerto Rico must be on US owned and operated ships along with the fact that Puerto Rico is considered a US territory.
More splitting hairs.
Obama did his best to keep oil companies from drilling in oceans and parts of the U.S
A positive thing.
You are outing yourself to being the supporter of eco-tyranny I suspected you to be. You are an elitists whom believes everyone who actually works and pays taxes to keep civilization should do without while rewarding people to do nothing but cause the working class suffering.
You mentioned CNN, i don’t mention CNN so it is irrelevant, i listed my sources both of which are against Trump none of which are considered the mainstream media. They are not Fox News, CNN, MSNBC. CBS. the New York times, the Associated Press etc. Now since i mentioned my sources (about 3 times now i believe) what are yours?
I checked. You have not provided any links in your post to sources. I also copies the pages as proof.
On the other hand, both Beer and myself have.
The end of net neutrality, removing privacy rules on the Internet (which means ISP’s can now sell your data on the Internet without your consent and by data i don’t mean credit card information).
Did you even read the “Net Neutrality” Executive Orders and Bill by Obama. The regulations gave social media companies, ISPs, and online companies more power while taking more power from the people.
His moving of the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem,
That was already federal law passed by congress and signed by a president decades ago. Just no President had the guts to do it. President Trump campaigned on doing so and so he did it. President Trump likes to keep his promises.
his end of the Iran deal,
Handing over billions of dollars in unmarked pallets of U.S. cash and giving other favors by the U.S. in exchange for hostages is extortion. The only person that signed the “deal” with Iran was then Secretary of State John Kerry, and it was not a ratified deal so had no teeth for the U.S., as for Iran, no government official in power signed that deal.
he is probably gonna shut down the Government by Christmas,
Congress loads the budget with all the pork they wanted, but they refuse to give President Trump the $5 billion he asked for. That was an insult by Congress and President Trump is no longer going to take it.
his pick of a man fine with NSA or at least Warrantless spying to the supreme court along with the Judges desire to get rid of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
President Trump was a victim of wiretapping by the government. When President Trump learned that Trump Towers NYC was wiretapped, he has not been in that building since.
As for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, that organization was a crafted by Senator Elisabeth Warren and designed as a government shake down organizations to force banks to funnel money into the democrat coffers. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau was so corrupt that the organization was designed not to have ANY OVERSIGHT by Congress, the White House, nor the Courts. The Courts finally decided the CFPB was under oversight of the White House.
His actions which support fracking,
People whom actually pay for gas and goods supporting fracking.
his refusal to show his tax returns.
Those are private documents. And given those opposing him have already denied him attorney-client privilege, he has every right to keep his documents private.
his first raid in office which killed an American girl.
This I have no heard. What incident are you talking about.
His desire to ban bump stocks etc.
Wow, that is out of right field. A device that allows rapid-fire with no control should be banned.
Each of these can easily be looked up on the Internet and i have mentioned sources against Trump (which are Globalist media) before
So you claim your sources are the pro-1% media, whom you claim to oppose in some of your statements.
You are all over the place.
Of course you push this Neo con bulls~~~ which brings up that Trump met up with the Dictator of North Korea yet did you (or will you) bitch about that fact?
Do you even know what a Neo-con is?
MAGA/Trump Supporters are non Neo-Cons. Never-Trumps are Neo-cons/Neo-liberals.
Also, I supported that meeting in Singapore, and I am happen that meeting went well.
also what is better improving relations even with Countries we don’t agree with or worsening them potentially causing another war in which many People will die in just so the US can elect either a puppet Government or create a new threat (ISIS did not exist till after Saddam was forced out of Office.
Here you go against. It was both Bushes, the Clintons, and Obama that got the U.S. into the global police mess.
President Trump has been trying to get the U.S. out of this mess and is met with resistance by the same media you believe.
President Trump is pulling out all U.S. troops from Syria and half the U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
I mean the laws of Donald Trump, the s~~~ he actually pushes you f~~~tard,
The only laws President Trump has supported are to protect and benefit U.S. workers whom have been shafted for decades by everyone else.
He as President could at least push for a change to get Social Media Companies to support freedom of speech yet he has done jacks~~~ so far about it.
President Trump and his supporters are the primary VICTIMS censorship of Social Media Companies.
I said on Social Media don’t throw a red herring here (i did not talk about University).
Social Media and University dogma go hand in hand.
Yes this is true however if no such rigging occurred Bernie Sanders would have likely won the election akin to Obama in 08.
President Trump versus Bernie would have been an interesting election.
Even if it was not an intentionally crime committed Trump still f~~~ed up.
President Trump stated to do the payments in a legal way.
Even if Trump paid the hush money out of pocket you don’t pay that as that is an admission of guilt.
You truly are ignorant to believe that people settle out of court because they are guilty. For most they settle to not be bankrupted. For President Trump, the blackmail was on the eve of the 2016 Nov election and it did not matter if it was true or not, the fascist media would have screamed that it was true. So, he paid the blackmail but with a nondisclosure agreement.
There is a word of what that is called where i am from and that is Mierda (aka s~~~).
So, your primary language is spanish. I am guessing you are not native to the U.S.
Nor my plan, nor Bernies nor other Social Democrats have People seizing all the wealth you dishonest liar.
Who do you think pays for all these programs? We do and we got nothing for but hate and disrespect. The MGTOW movement is built on this fact.
It is called a progressive tax system which has different brackets and taxes which affect all money made above certain points (as different percents none of which takes all of the money).
But, you point out the 1% have tax shelters so it is only the working class that gets screwed.
But since the most popular view is Bernie Sanders which that (despite him being called a Socialist or a Commie) does not confiscate all of the Wealth above even the highest points.
After Hillary screwed over Bernie in the 2016 DNC Primary, Bernie took a bribe to stay quiet. Do not fool yourself, Bernie would sell you out and those you care for in a heartbeat.
You are full of s~~~ buddy.
Using the same insult twice in a post shows a lack of tact.
Except that Maga is all in line with the Globalists,
I am with Beer. I want to know how you drew that conclusion. You admit that globalism
Brexit will still remain in line with them (it is not like English People now kick out all non Brits).
Are you going to try your, “the non-whites were there first”, claim on Britain?
That does not exactly work.
Brazil has a typical right wing puppet, the yellow vest movement began as a rebellion against putting the burden of climate change on the Workers instead of the Companies.
Brazil’s government is typically eco-fascist socialist, but the people there were finally able to elect a populist leader.
It depends on the specifics in other parts of Europe and Canada has more right wingers but will they actually swing the Country?
I see you are ignoring the populist Yellow Vest movement.
Now to clarify concerning MAGA supporters. MAGA supporters are the populist, pro-gun ownership, traditionalist, anti-media, anti-monopolist, workers revolution people’s movement that Karl Marx wrote about. The MAGA supporters even support the people of other nations having similar political movements. In other words, MAGA supporters are the True Communists.
I want to fight for lower taxes and less government spending
And i fight for higher Government taxes on the rich and to redirect Government spending what ways that actually benefit People (excessive Military spending, sending the money to Israel or Saudi Arabia etc) do not help the actual People and to force those in power to adopt these Policies and stick to them (aka the Guy who ran as a populist but doing s~~~ gets voted out in the next election).
and now people are arguing that paying over 1/3 of your income to the federal government isn’t enough? Its insane.
Actually that really depends on many factors rather then just 1/3 of your income going to Government. Often Progressive tax systems state X money over Y is taxed at a higher rate, and then over Z etc.
Yeah we’d be doing so much better right now if we had granted tens of millions of illegals amnesty and threw them all on welfare
The thing about the Illegals is the plan of deporting 11 million People is an impossible feat which will violate the rights of Citizens in the process. So legal Citizens in the Illegal looking camp (like Mexicans or others from Latin America) will get frisked on the basis of Race even when they are Innocent. And the best analogy i can make to it is George Bush after 9/11 punishing Citizens for the action of a couple Terrorists by further stripping away the rights of Citizens. In order to try to scope out all Terror (which is not occuring from the Government to the People) you need to spy on Citizens who have committed nor suspected of committing a crime.
Can you please further elaborate on this point? I’m curious how you came to this conclusion.
Trump and his actions have not been anti Globalist in most regards as his Policies fall right in line with them a majority of the time. The most anti Globalist thing he has done so far is his beginning of drawing the Troops out of a place they should have never been to begin with. But for foreign policy it is clear he is in line with the Israel and Saudi Arabian crowd ignoring their crimes and supporting them which means Trump supports a racist state and a Theocratic state.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
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