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Tired of winning? Make sure your divorce becomes final before January! you wont be able to deduct your alimony payments from your taxes!.
One more reason NOT to get married, like we need more? right gents?.
Both parties suck and both will betray us with out a moment’s notice, everyone that was smart or half smart already left the U.S., from 4 million Americans living abroad the numbers have jumped well above 9 million and counting. Let’s not forget those that already abandoned citizenship and payed the outrageous fee of 2,350 dollars!, The system did forget to write their names like they are SUPPOSED to ;).
Nt my problem.
About trump, i repeat, That guy is a snake, not poisonous like hitlery, but a snake.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
Nt my problem.
About trump, i repeat, That guy is a snake, not poisonous like hitlery, but a snake.Traitors come in all sizes, those poor workers from the GM factory will enjoy a great new year with all those AWFUL deductions taken off, i mean come on we gotta SIMPLIFY the tax code, not everyone can be a winner like MR. Trump, Winners settle only losers pay alimony LMAO.
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Traitors come in all sizes, those poor workers from the GM factory will enjoy a great new year with all those AWFUL deductions taken off, i mean come on we gotta SIMPLIFY the tax code, not everyone can be a winner like MR. Trump, Winners settle only losers pay alimony LMAO.
Interesting how you omit the SALT (State and Local Taxes) deductions that now cover everyone up to $10,000 per person a year for all U.S. citizens, though this screws over a lot of democrat states. (Before SALT deductions only applied to a few democrat states and had no cap).
There are other positive changed in the tax law.
But, the changes do get canceled at 2025, still with all the democrat states in turmoil I am sure President Trump can work something out. Or, the nation will likely collapse by then.
The whole point of the plan is to help the top 1 percent ad the Trump Tax plan will raise your taxes if you are middle class or poorer and it was not about us to begin with. What part of Trump’s deregulation, tax cuts and increased deficit with a reduced benefit help us? and to those who state Trumps deregulation got rid of a bad regulation or 2 even the good ones are in the trash or about to be in the trash like food safety standards, the climate, Water etc.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
The whole point of the plan is to help the top 1 percent ad the Trump Tax plan will raise your taxes if you are middle class or poorer and it was not about us to begin with.
That has been happening before he got into office, but it seems the top 1 percent are trying to get him thrown out of office.
Traitors come in all sizes, those poor workers from the GM factory will enjoy a great new year with all those AWFUL deductions taken off, i mean come on we gotta SIMPLIFY the tax code, not everyone can be a winner like MR. Trump, Winners settle only losers pay alimony LMAO.
Interesting how you omit the SALT (State and Local Taxes) deductions that now cover everyone up to $10,000 per person a year for all U.S. citizens, though this screws over a lot of democrat states. (Before SALT deductions only applied to a few democrat states and had no cap).
There are other positive changed in the tax law.
But, the changes do get canceled at 2025, still with all the democrat states in turmoil I am sure President Trump can work something out. Or, the nation will likely collapse by then.Well the fed is increasing interest rates to the tune of .25 every now and then, we are approaching what many would call overheating of the economy.
Everyone who has debt or obligations to pay that have interest attached to them will get killed at the end of this business cycle, the banks will reposes whatever is left, 2019 is the start of a recession as many economists who are not seen regularly on MSM have stated.
Even though this one piece of news i posted is not enough to unseat the current president, this will only add to the turmoil we will see next year when everyone has to file their taxes (the big February surprise!).
I have a feeling that at this point No matter how much trump does it will do very little to appease the masses that voted for him, me included.
but it seems the top 1 percent are trying to get him thrown out of office.
Trump will probably face charges because he is a criminal and always was one and the reason People are thinking of impeechment is the criminal actions Trump has committed but the fact is his policies are not really all that different from the Establishment he is akin to George Bush who was joked about night after night but he did not shake the boat on policies.
Of course i personally do not believe in impeeching Trump as that could rile up on the base into fighting more Conservative due to a conspiracy but rather getting an actual Person against him in 2020 who exposes Trump and has alot better policies then Trump as that is how Trump loses. The fact is Hillary lose because she was not only a bad Person but she f~~~ed over the voting base who would have voted for Sanders or another akin Person (like the rust belt, the middle of the Country and maybe even the south).
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
Interesting how you omit the SALT (State and Local Taxes) deductions that now cover everyone up to $10,000 per person a year for all U.S. citizens, though this screws over a lot of democrat states. (Before SALT deductions only applied to a few democrat states and had no cap).
I live in a democrat state, and I must say, this change is f~~~ing awesome. There is nothing better than listening to someone bitch about not being able to write off the full amount of state and local taxes anymore, especially when they vote for tax and spend democrats, just for me to remind them that the reason they can afford an expensive house is because they have an above average income…are they complaining about people with an above average income paying their fair share? People on the lower end of the income spectrum simply aren’t paying enough state and local taxes to make it worth itemizing compared to just taking the standard deduction so these changes don’t effect them. If you make 40k-50k a year here and don’t own a house, there is no way you are paying more than 10k in SALT.
Its actually funny how many idiots I know here who I’ve heard bitch about the rich not paying their fair share who never stopped to consider they are top 10% income wise. Apparently though the libtards only think people making more than them are rich. If they make 50k a year tax brackets for those making 100k and up should be much higher. If they make 100k tax brackets for 250k should be much higher. If they make 250k, tax brackets for 1m+ should be higher.
The whole point of the plan is to help the top 1 percent ad the Trump Tax plan will raise your taxes if you are middle class or poorer and it was not about us to begin with.
I’d disagree. I grossed about 6k more than I did last year and my federal income tax burden this year will be about 3,000 less than last year. Its just factually wrong saying he raised taxes on the middle class, and the cap on SALT deductions had much more impact on higher income people with bigger houses and more toys.
As far as the poor…do you realize the bottom tax bracket went from 15% to 12%? He literally lowered taxes for low earners as well. Now let’s talk about those low earners a bit.
Its impossible to give them a meaningful tax cut because they pay jack s~~~ in taxes to begin with. Almost half the country doesn’t pay any federal income taxes. We should institute a mandatory minimum tax on those f~~~ers just so we all have some skin in the game.
Income taxes aren’t the problem, its that capital gains taxes are so much lower. Uber rich don’t have much “income,” its all capital gains. Raising income taxes really just f~~~s the upper middle class. Its the doctors and the small business owners who make a few hundred thousand a year who get hammered…its not the billionaires.
The single worst thing about the Trump tax cuts is they weren’t accompanied by the Trump spending cuts.
Well the fed is increasing interest rates to the tune of .25 every now and then, we are approaching what many would call overheating of the economy.
There is just one flaw in your point. That being the Federal Reserve is a private orgination and President Trump has been opposing interest rate hikes.
But, you can thank President Trump for lower gas prices which lowers the prices of good across the board.
Trump will probably face charges because he is a criminal and always was one and the reason People are thinking of impeechment is the criminal actions Trump has committed but the fact is his policies are not really all that different from the Establishment he is akin to George Bush who was joked about night after night but he did not shake the boat on policies.
That is the most circular logic comment I have read all month.
After three years of political attacks by the media, corporation, foreign agents, government organizations, etc, and the only accusations that have been made have been found to be fraudulently created by a conspiracy of these groups against President Trump.
Actions against a legally elected President are an ongoing coup and treason.
I live in a democrat state, and I must say, this change is f~~~ing awesome. There is nothing better than listening to someone bitch about not being able to write off the full amount of state and local taxes anymore, especially when they vote for tax and spend democrats, just for me to remind them that the reason they can afford an expensive house is because they have an above average income…are they complaining about people with an above average income paying their fair share? People on the lower end of the income spectrum simply aren’t paying enough state and local taxes to make it worth itemizing compared to just taking the standard deduction so these changes don’t effect them. If you make 40k-50k a year here and don’t own a house, there is no way you are paying more than 10k in SALT.
Its actually funny how many idiots I know here who I’ve heard bitch about the rich not paying their fair share who never stopped to consider they are top 10% income wise. Apparently though the libtards only think people making more than them are rich. If they make 50k a year tax brackets for those making 100k and up should be much higher. If they make 100k tax brackets for 250k should be much higher. If they make 250k, tax brackets for 1m+ should be higher.
Finally, someone with sanity. Thanks, Beer.
Of course i personally do not believe in impeeching Trump as that could rile up on the base into fighting more Conservative due to a conspiracy but rather getting an actual Person against him in 2020 who exposes Trump and has alot better policies then Trump as that is how Trump loses.
I voted for Trump. I like Trump. I think Trump is doing a hell of a lot better job than any of the other candidates would have done. They won’t remove Trump from office, and if they did, I wouldn’t care, because it just means Pence steps up. Pence would pretty much just push the same agenda as Trump. Pence is also smart enough to stay off Twitter and not constantly say mildly insulting things that gets the opposition all fired up on a regular basis.
Trump won’t be removed from office whether he deserves it or not because removing Trump from office means the democrats have to beat Pence in 2020. Just think about it…the liberal media has an endless supply of Trump one liners they could play non stop during election season to fire up the liberal voting base. They’ll have to dig a lot deeper and will find far less controversial clips if they have to turn the next election into a Pence smear campaign.
Back to the original topic of divorce. What this SHOULD mean is that cupcake gets less money. If I pay $4k a month and the deduction saves me $1k in taxes, then the new alimony should be $3k, the after tax cost. But if cupcake was in the 15% bracket, she was paying $600 a month in taxes and netting $3,400. Now she’s only getting $3k, so she is $400 worse off, with the difference going to the government.
So, if your lawyer isn’t an idiot, he’s always been looking at the after tax cost to the husbank. You can’t squeeze blood from a turnip. Of course as we all know the flaw in my logic is that “family” court doesn’t give a s~~~ about the husbank. But in theory it should lower the gross amount paid by the husbank so he’s in the same net after tax position. You have to leave the guy enough money each month to keep him going to work.
But ask May 7 if he believes me. I doubt he does.
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Nt my problem.
About trump, i repeat, That guy is a snake, not poisonous like hitlery, but a snake.Theres no comparison though. Trump doesnt want to have socialist totalitarian comtrol over every single attribute of everyones lives. Fcking dyke socialist comrade hillary would be a fucing stalinist nightmare. Wed literaly be at civil war against her fat bolshevik ass.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
OK.. For all you guys who support Trump,you have to understand he is a NYC Real Estate THUG! My father worked in fire inspection. Those guys are some of the SLEEZIEST crooks in the city! They fund most of their dealings through shell companies as SLUM LORDS!
Trump is not a hero. He is smart enough manipulate the tax codes in this country to make money. That’s about it! It’s something all wealthy people do!
Tax breaks for the rich and Donald Trump uses them just like any wealthy person.
But the bottom line is, is that he is a real estate THUG and he does give a s~~~ about anyone but himself. And maybe Donald Jr.
#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS
Its just factually wrong saying he raised taxes on the middle class, and the cap on SALT deductions had much more impact on higher income people with bigger houses and more toys.
I think i stated he will as in he will raise taxes on the poorer People as that is part of the tax cut plan if his policy sticks over the next decade as the middle class and poorer tax cuts are limited unlike the tax cuts for the rich which are stated to last beyond that. Just give us a Republican president for the next decade or so and the tax cuts will stop for the poorer among us.
Raising income taxes really just f~~~s the upper middle class. Its the doctors and the small business owners who make a few hundred thousand a year who get hammered…its not the billionaires
The point of a Progressive tax system is the more someone makes the higher the tax rate is along with cutting loopholes and tax cuts which help Billionaries aka no more Caymen Island bulls~~~ or Amazon choosing the State or City which sucks up most to them while they force the Government to spend money on them via Welfare programs (Walmart, Amazon, Mcdonalds and the Yum Corporation are the biggest Welfare queens in America as their Workers are forced to rely on programs).
But, you can thank President Trump for lower gas prices which lowers the prices of good across the board.
I could argue Obama lowered Gas prices as 2015 and 2016 had some of the lowest prices of the decade (even a dollar something in parts of my state). Where is the Obama thanks at?
After three years of political attacks by the media, corporation, foreign agents, government organizations, etc, and the only accusations that have been made have been found to be fraudulently created by a conspiracy of these groups against President Trump.
Actually when it comes to the Media most attacks occur on the basis of Trump stating something stupid rather then policy or Trump openly admitting something that the Establishment is fine with but does not want to let out into the open (like Trump’s support of torture and openly stating it unlike the past where they did not openly state it but still support it). The only true attacks on Trump has been Lefist Media or Libertarian media who actually provide the real attacks against him with my 2 examples being Secular talk on Youtube and reason.com as these are some of the best sources for it (in my opinion).
Actions against a legally elected President are an ongoing coup and treason.
Okay then the Republicans i remember pushing against Obama whenever they could trying to block his bills, the 2013 Government shutdown, the media attacks from Conservative sources, impeechment talks and more as a treasonous agenda against a legally elected President. Now the point of contention is not that Trump is not legally elected but his Corruption while in his office becoming open and clear.
I think Trump is doing a hell of a lot better job than any of the other candidates would have done
Ah no as even the most boring Centrist Democrat would have done a better job then Trump, the only one i personally could see doing worse would be Ted Cruz.
Trump won’t be removed from office whether he deserves it or not because removing Trump from office means the democrats have to beat Pence in 2020
Pretty easy to do if you have a real populist left candidate running for Office who pushes policies People actually want instead of bills which take away your internet privacy rights, deregulate, hurt the climate and give giant tax cuts to the top 1 percent. If the Democrats are not complete f~~~heads in 2020 having a Bernie Sanders (or someone akin to him) run would beat out Donald Trump and sure as hell beat out Mike Pence as Mikey was a pick to appeal to Conservative Christians and you need more then them to win (like the Workers, the young People, those in the more Democratic states, swing states, the rust belt etc).
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
The point of a Progressive tax system is the more someone makes the higher the tax rate is along with cutting loopholes and tax cuts which help Billionaries aka no more Caymen Island bulls~~~ or Amazon choosing the State or City which sucks up most to them while they force the Government to spend money on them via Welfare programs (Walmart, Amazon, Mcdonalds and the Yum Corporation are the biggest Welfare queens in America as their Workers are forced to rely on programs).
It is interesting you mention this. One of the changes in the Trump taxcuts was that Puerto Rico and other domains of the U.S. outside of the U.S. States cannot be used as tax shelters.
Do you even know what you are talking about.
I could argue Obama lowered Gas prices as 2015 and 2016 had some of the lowest prices of the decade (even a dollar something in parts of my state). Where is the Obama thanks at?
Now, you are just splitting hairs.
Actually when it comes to the Media most attacks occur on the basis of Trump stating something stupid rather then policy or Trump openly admitting something that the Establishment is fine with but does not want to let out into the open (like Trump’s support of torture and openly stating it unlike the past where they did not openly state it but still support it). The only true attacks on Trump has been Lefist Media or Libertarian media who actually provide the real attacks against him with my 2 examples being Secular talk on Youtube and reason.com as these are some of the best sources for it (in my opinion).
It seems you believe the progressive fake media. They accuse him of everything, while taking everything he does or says out of context, while at the same time they work to sabotage any efforts by him to help the U.S.
President Trump is supporting prison reform.
If you want to talk about people supporting torture look no further than the media whom have been cheering on the globalist wars for several years.
Okay then the Republicans i remember pushing against Obama whenever they could trying to block his bills, the 2013 Government shutdown, the media attacks from Conservative sources, impeechment talks and more as a treasonous agenda against a legally elected President.
Those same never-Trump decided that instead of actually keeping their promises, they stalled, quit, and gave the Congressional House to the democrats.
Now the point of contention is not that Trump is not legally elected but his Corruption while in his office becoming open and clear.
No. The treason against President Trump is open and clear.
Ah no as even the most boring Centrist Democrat would have done a better job then Trump, the only one i personally could see doing worse would be Ted Cruz.
There is no such thing as “centrist democrat”. Democrats are either corporate globalists. Or, democrats are fascists posing as communists.
Pretty easy to do if you have a real populist left candidate running for Office who pushes policies People actually want instead of bills which take away your internet privacy rights, deregulate, hurt the climate and give giant tax cuts to the top 1 percent.
Interesting. It has been the democrats in the social media companies whom have been censoring tens of millions of U.S. citizens for daring to be Pro-U.S. And you expect theses same people to support laws that would stop their corruption.
And before you mention “Net Neutrality” the fine print would have only helped the corporations.
If the Democrats are not complete f~~~heads in 2020 having a Bernie Sanders (or someone akin to him) run would beat out Donald Trump and sure as hell beat out Mike Pence as Mikey was a pick to appeal to Conservative Christians and you need more then them to win (like the Workers, the young People, those in the more Democratic states, swing states, the rust belt etc).
The DNC already changed the rules so Bernie cannot run on a democrat ticket for president.
I rarely say this. But, your comments call for this. YOU ARE COMPLETELY IGNORANT OF THE FACTS! You project what the democrats are doing on President Trump. I feel sick to my stomach talking to someone so ignorant and backwards in their information that to even try to carry a meaningful conversation would be pointless. The only reason I reply to you is so everyone else can come and read these comments to see how wrong you are. I have carried on conversations with those I suspected were paid shills that were more productive than this. I do not know how you reached this point in the path your life is on, but I highly suggest you stop and turn back so you can try to find out where you went wrong. And yes, you went wrong because there is a difference between disagreeing with someone and being so misinformed that to call you a propagandist would be an insult to a propagandist.
Good day.
OK.. For all you guys who support Trump,you have to understand he is a NYC Real Estate THUG! My father worked in fire inspection. Those guys are some of the SLEEZIEST crooks in the city! They fund most of their dealings through shell companies as SLUM LORDS!
Are you accusing his Trump Towers to be “slums”? That man builds quality. You could debate that some of his business decisions were not the wisest courses of action, but the man builds solid buildings.
Trump is not a hero. He is smart enough manipulate the tax codes in this country to make money. That’s about it! It’s something all wealthy people do!
He fully admits this and thus it is not an issue with his supporters.
On the other hand, the members of the media whom politically insult President Trump every chance the get on this issue and other issues mostly receive 7 to 8 figure annual salaries. They use the same tax codes to keep their wealth and they are hypocrites on the matter. It is that hypocrisy which is one of the primary reasons the media’s collective reputation is in the garbage.
The point of a Progressive tax system is the more someone makes the higher the tax rate is along with cutting loopholes and tax cuts which help Billionaries aka no more Caymen Island bulls~~~ or Amazon choosing the State or City which sucks up most to them while they force the Government to spend money on them via Welfare programs (Walmart, Amazon, Mcdonalds and the Yum Corporation are the biggest Welfare queens in America as their Workers are forced to rely on programs).
It is interesting you mention this. One of the changes in the Trump taxcuts was that Puerto Rico and other domains of the U.S. outside of the U.S. States cannot be used as tax shelters.
Do you even know what you are talking about.I could argue Obama lowered Gas prices as 2015 and 2016 had some of the lowest prices of the decade (even a dollar something in parts of my state). Where is the Obama thanks at?
Now, you are just splitting hairs.
Actually when it comes to the Media most attacks occur on the basis of Trump stating something stupid rather then policy or Trump openly admitting something that the Establishment is fine with but does not want to let out into the open (like Trump’s support of torture and openly stating it unlike the past where they did not openly state it but still support it). The only true attacks on Trump has been Lefist Media or Libertarian media who actually provide the real attacks against him with my 2 examples being Secular talk on Youtube and reason.com as these are some of the best sources for it (in my opinion).
It seems you believe the progressive fake media. They accuse him of everything, while taking everything he does or says out of context, while at the same time they work to sabotage any efforts by him to help the U.S.
President Trump is supporting prison reform.
If you want to talk about people supporting torture look no further than the media whom have been cheering on the globalist wars for several years.Okay then the Republicans i remember pushing against Obama whenever they could trying to block his bills, the 2013 Government shutdown, the media attacks from Conservative sources, impeechment talks and more as a treasonous agenda against a legally elected President.
Those same never-Trump decided that instead of actually keeping their promises, they stalled, quit, and gave the Congressional House to the democrats.
Now the point of contention is not that Trump is not legally elected but his Corruption while in his office becoming open and clear.
No. The treason against President Trump is open and clear.
Ah no as even the most boring Centrist Democrat would have done a better job then Trump, the only one i personally could see doing worse would be Ted Cruz.
There is no such thing as “centrist democrat”. Democrats are either corporate globalists. Or, democrats are fascists posing as communists.
Pretty easy to do if you have a real populist left candidate running for Office who pushes policies People actually want instead of bills which take away your internet privacy rights, deregulate, hurt the climate and give giant tax cuts to the top 1 percent.
Interesting. It has been the democrats in the social media companies whom have been censoring tens of millions of U.S. citizens for daring to be Pro-U.S. And you expect theses same people to support laws that would stop their corruption.
And before you mention “Net Neutrality” the fine print would have only helped the corporations.If the Democrats are not complete f~~~heads in 2020 having a Bernie Sanders (or someone akin to him) run would beat out Donald Trump and sure as hell beat out Mike Pence as Mikey was a pick to appeal to Conservative Christians and you need more then them to win (like the Workers, the young People, those in the more Democratic states, swing states, the rust belt etc).
The DNC already changed the rules so Bernie cannot run on a democrat ticket for president.
I rarely say this. But, your comments call for this. YOU ARE COMPLETELY IGNORANT OF THE FACTS! You project what the democrats are doing on President Trump. I feel sick to my stomach talking to someone so ignorant and backwards in their information that to even try to carry a meaningful conversation would be pointless. The only reason I reply to you is so everyone else can come and read these comments to see how wrong you are. I have carried on conversations with those I suspected were paid shills that were more productive than this. I do not know how you reached this point in the path your life is on, but I highly suggest you stop and turn back so you can try to find out where you went wrong. And yes, you went wrong because there is a difference between disagreeing with someone and being so misinformed that to call you a propagandist would be an insult to a propagandist.
Good day.Obama didnt do one f~~~ing thing to lower gas prices. He enacted laws that restricted regular drilling techniques and put more land off limits for use.
Only way Obama could have would have been to open more areas for use – he didnt; or to sign a law decreasing the federal gas tax collected at the pump – he didn’t.
The oil companies themselves lowered prices by increasing supply via shale mining/drilling. Particularly in 2015-2016 when shale oiloutput was at peak.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
Now one thing I will “credit” Obama for doing is getting people to buy more guns directly due to his statements and attempts to whittle away at the 2A.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
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