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I love kids and always wanted as many kids as possible. That’s why swallowing red pills was and continues to be a very painful experience.
I feel that way sometimes. I think what changed in me was I started thinking of it this way:
Do I remember my father? Yes, obviously.
Do I remember my grandfather? Yeah, but I barely know him since he lives in a separate state.
Do I remember my great grandfather? Not at all. He was dead before I was born.
Do I remember my great-great grandfather? I couldn’t even tell you the guy’s name.Conversely:
Do I know who Albert Einstein is?
Do I know who Leonardo da Vinci is?
Do I know who Aristotle is?These men lived further back than my father or my grandfather, but they built a legacy. We need to stop viewing our time on the planet is small and worthless and start contributing again like these men. Our lineage, our great family, is the lives our work and advancements touch. Build something to be remembered by.
That’s why swallowing red pills was and continues to be a very painful experience.
Curious.
I have a different view:
Since I was 12 I thought that the best thing that can happen to you is have a family (I got brainwashed good). The problem with this is that even if you change your mind, your brain recalls childhood happiness with the way you used to think back then.For that reason, going against your preconcived ideas makes you sad, and doing ANYTHING you used to do as a child makes you happy (In fact, if you want a Girl to be drooling over you, find out what she used to do as a kid and do that on first date… Id usually not tell anyone this awesome piece of advice, as its basically hitting “gold”, but I am seriously out of the blue/purple pill world until I meet a woman that is at least as self aware as I am… and ofc then this trick wont work on her).
Happiness is a 100% induced state and it can be modified at will. I use it every day at work: youd be amazed at how good you become at work when it makes you happy, and I can simply put choose to be happy when I want to.
So, I choose the red pill, then I choose to be happy about it. Takes some practice but works… most of the time. When going to sleep and waking up the first subconscious reaction is that Alone=Sad (also dreams take this form, but funny enough, if you have a conscious dream and talk to someone in the dream, you are basically talking to your subconscious. Careful with this, it is far more dangerous than you realize as you can actually change your subconscious mind and most of us are not smart enough to improve a system that has been evolving for 300 000 years).
That’s actually the one major difference between men and women; men take ownership of their happiness, where as a women’s happiness is totally at the effect of the whims of her situational environment, and in no control of her emotional state what so ever!
The only way a woman knows how to change her emotional state is by requiring something outside of her to change; because she doesn’t own her feelings, but are merely the results of outside forces! Therefore she manipulates her feelings by manipulating those things outside of her!
This is why most women are incapable of introspection; they don’t own their state of mind, therfore they can’t change it internally, only externally!
In a way, most women are like primitive animals; only responding to environmental emotional triggers and not capable of internal proactive control! Purely an “action, reaction” mechanism.
In short: women have no self initiative nor self control; totally at the effects of their environmental conditions and ALWAYS making ALL their decisions based on fear! That is the fear of rejection, embarrassment, fear of failure, fear of Shame, fear of being alone, fear of work, fear of responsibility, fear of pain, fear of loosing social standing, fear of loosing credibility, and so on!
This is why women rarely put their skin in the game; but use the skin of others!
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I think sometimes just seeing a baby can set off the same feelings as seeing a kitten or puppy. Especially the way they’re portrayed as adorable and in good moods most of the time… just like the kitten grows into a cat, the baby becomes a toddler, a child, a teenager, and young adult.
I also know that they use babies to keep men around, view being a SAHM as better than working (because it is).Sadly a lot of depressed women see having a kid as a cure for their depression, and for a short time that often works. But when the reality of raising a kid sinks in, the depression will return. I think about 50%+ of the female population have kids for this reason, and this reason alone. The biological clock they talk about takes priority over all ethics or morality, and they will f*** anyone in order to achieve it. A friend of mine found out three years ago that neither of his teenage kids are actually his. It was a bloody mess all around dealing with the fallout from that. Pretty common story in these parts.
"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"
No kids for me ty.
I mostly feel the same way. I wouldn’t want my natural-born child to deal with the stress of modern living. If I ever decide to have children in the future, I would adopt orphans who live in impoverished communities.
I think men and women should make sure they have enough resources to support themselves before they decide to have a baby. I don’t understand why people have babies like it’s some uncontrolled biological function. If we lived in jungle tribes, it would make sense to have a baby because there’s an endless supply of food & water and no taxes on our labor and land. However, since most of us live in some sort of industrial society where one must work for resources, it wouldn’t make sense to have a baby while making minimum wage or not having a committed relationship with a person who has a vested interest in taking care of children. There’s women out there who fall in love with drug dealers and car thieves, and they somehow think these men will be supportive of their goal to have a baby. I seriously can’t understand why any person would think that way! You can find these type of selfish women all over the United States, and it makes me very upset because their children grow up in substandard living conditions. And to top it off: after they spend a decade doing menial jobs, getting food stamps, and other forms of welfare, they get this epiphany about the value of dating a “good man.” Seriously?! It took them all those years to realize that they’d have been better off dating men who actually care about them and have legitimate jobs! This is just unbelievable. So guess what they do? They put their scantily-clad bodies on dating websites and hope some eligible bachelor—who has the option of dating younger women w/o kids—will rescue them from their bad choices. These are the same type of men she rejected when she was in her early 20s ’cause all that drama and excitement she got from her dysfunctional boyfriends was more important than seriously thinking about her future.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
“I love kids and always wanted as many kids as possible.”
Russky: I think spending the day with nieces and nephews is a good substitute for having your own kids. Your siblings will thank you for giving them a break from their rowdy kids. Another option: being a Big Brother.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
I think sometimes just seeing a baby can set off the same feelings as seeing a kitten or puppy. Especially the way they’re portrayed as adorable and in good moods most of the time… just like the kitten grows into a cat, the baby becomes a toddler, a child, a teenager, and young adult.I also know that they use babies to keep men around, view being a SAHM as better than working (because it is).
Sadly a lot of depressed women see having a kid as a cure for their depression, and for a short time that often works. But when the reality of raising a kid sinks in, the depression will return. I think about 50%+ of the female population have kids for this reason, and this reason alone. The biological clock they talk about takes priority over all ethics or morality, and they will f*** anyone in order to achieve it. A friend of mine found out three years ago that neither of his teenage kids are actually his. It was a bloody mess all around dealing with the fallout from that. Pretty common story in these parts.
I’d have to agree with that having seen it my self many times over the decades!
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So much truth in this thread.
I know I shouldn’t care, but as we have long established in these forums – Men DO actually care, but Women are so irrational it becomes almost irrelevant to try. But I still do get moments of sadness brothers, that my ex thought more of these non-existent people over me.
Despite all I was, did, made her feel – because I did not want Children. I was not important enough to her. She picked people she had never met before over me. People that did even exist yet.But I have to laugh when one of my objections to children was that it would change what she felt towards me, and I would no longer be a priority in her life, She looked genuinely confused and said it wouldn’t change anything.
Immaturity, stupidity, naivety. Take your pick.
Anonymous5Bill Burr’s 2 minute response to Oprah’s claim “Motherhood is the most difficult job in the world”
Notice how women laugh the hardest in every audience, no matter what country Bill Burr works in.
They laugh the hardest because they know it’s true, no matter how outrageous, vicious or lopsided their behaviour is.
Only the very best of comedians can get away with pointing out their standard sociopathic narcissistic behaviour though. Anyone else would be accused of misogyny, portrayed as bitter and delusionalThere is NOTHING more dangerous then a woman who wants kids …. EXCEPT a man that’s having pussy thrown at him.
Proof positive in the divorce courts.
We MUST find a way of not thinking with our dicks ….. or pray for the male pill.
More hope of the latter I fear.I had a cousin who was a lesbian tell me to “run away” from any woman wanting to “have OUR baby” !
No, don’t kiss her, hug her or do anything but run away as fast as you can ! Or as my cousin said, “Don’t be a breeder”
Frank V.
“Something to love her unconditionally?” That’s a load of crap. Shes trying to justify something. Women lie about what they want because they are not smart enough to even know what they want. Ie – I want a nice guy. No you don’t.
It comes down to a motherly instinct. The man’s instict is to lead, protect, and provide. That is why he is expected to work himself to death. The woman is just supposed to nest and reproduce. Facebook has taught us that having a baby is the greatest thing you can ever do. She’ll be damned if that’s not her while another woman gets attention for doing her motherly duties. She would much rather do that than work. If the man isn’t providing enough, she’ll just get rid of him.
I agree it is for a selfish reason as having something to love them back regardless. That’s why when dating a single mother the odds are always against you. I don’t care what anyone says: in today’s world you need MONEY to have a child. Women think all you need is love. But that’s because they won’t be the ones out there providing for it unless they become single. Women think kids are a f~~~ing accessory. Little do they know, you are not having a baby, you are having an adult.
You see women say, my kids is my entire world. But, they want to date. How can you date but the guy will never even be a priority?
If a woman has just her kids and your money she’ll be f~~~ing fine! You become the bottom of the tier. You’re going to be paying her for 18-20 years–and even worse if you were married. Why do you think so many chicks wanna be SAHMs? (Stay at Home Mom)
Not because it helps the family out, but because she gets to have kids, stay home and not do s~~~. Sure she’ll have dinner on the table, but she won’t give a f~~~ that you’re out there busting ass to make a paycheck.Gohan: "But you can't just leave me out here all alone, that's cruel!" Piccolo: "Hey kid, LIFE is cruel! And don't you forget it!"
Sometimes women use children to control the man in the relationship. Sad.
Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.
first we must list the traditional reasons men have children and compare.
1 to preserve their linage to the next generation having kids was the way to preserve their ethnic tribe assuring that it has a future.
2 to instill their values in the next generation.
3 to have the experience of watching his children grow up and repeat the cycle.
That is why us men have children a completely logical and rational choice (aside from falling in love) to make.
Now why women have children is way different and is more irrational.
1 To fulfill paternal instinct even as children girls tend to take care of their toy dolls, clothe them, feed them, etc, so they can fulfill evolutionary instinct (That’s why when they have no children they use animals like cats as a substitution).
2 financial and legal gains women who have children get child support in all the first world nation to force the father to pay up or if they can’t get him to pay up the state will provide free housing and food stamps (The nation is seen as savage if children starve/live on the streets) so they benifit from having kids.
3 Because they suddenly convert to what ever religion forbids abortion in attempts to extort the father. Most families don’t approve of having bastard children especially catholics who will disown the kid who did not wed the girl he knocked up. This final reason is similar to number 2 but this one intends on getting into matrimony instead of just payments.That was the reasons that both men and women have children i hope this rather lengthy post did answer the question to people and was worth the effort in writing it.
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Just the ol’ biological clock kicking into high gear, happens to some earlier than others.
I always get a chuckle when I see these women post pregnancy pushing their kids down the grocery store aisle. Half of em’ look like they ignored the old adage “Be careful what you wish for”. Got their precious baby and now their selfishness is being contested.
The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.To extort money from her husband and society aka other working middle class men
ANYTIME a LAYDEE desires an immediate, “Not interested, Next!”
All she has to do is put the words, “I’ll tell you later” after the question, “Do you want kids?” On a dating site.
Such a furtive response, IMO = questionable motives.Later like when? e.g. :
Is this an effing card game.“Next!”
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
My ex-wife threw me out the house because I wouldn’t have second child and we are now in the process of a messy divorce. Kids became an obsession with her – I soon realised she couldn’t give a toss about me – I wanted to maintain some sort of life so there was no way I was going to have a second. I remember telling her before the split that I received a promotion – her response “great, I can now have a second child and don’t have to work”. Yes let me think about that – I will just work myself into the ground so that you can achieve your “dreams” and any free time I have will be spent running around after you and the kids – no thanks!
I wouldn’t change my first – really was the best thing that happened – but one child is the holy grail – it’s a total game changer having a second – any life you were able to maintain is gone. So many guys have told me this.
I have considered the biological “desire” argument but it just doesn’t wash with me. All men when in a relationship have the desire to f~~~ as many pretty women as possible but on the whole most manage to show “RESTRAINT”. Yes we have to repress our biological urges in order to maintain relationships – so why can’t women do the same when it comes to their urge to have children ??? I will leave the rest of you to answer that….
She was one of those kind of women that are not particularly Brite and would occasionally inadvertently blurt out the hidden truth behind her agendas and in this case said she wanted to have a child because she wanted something to love her “Unconditionally”! Not because she had the drive to perpetuate the species, but purely for the egocentric selfish reason of having a captured unconditional sycophant that “Needs” her!
Right on the money. I have heard that several times, sugar-coated of course, but this is the point: Too many men have used me and throw me away, so if I could have a little man who I could control and would take care of me when I am old I would be happy.
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