The "Real" reason why women desire to have children?

[nangidkramParticipant 7]

Brothers! I’m going to keep on trumpeting my theory that Human Females exist solely to garner attention through deceptive ruses. Every breath, action, thought and consideration is a deceptive ruse.

Our Classical World is preceded by a Quantum World and by the power of observation we exist.

A baby is an attention-collecting vessel produced by an attention-collecting vessel solely to collect attention. Human Females have further babies because they miss the attention.

Go watch my vid for the easy to understand science. Ok it’s a boring ten minutes but after you’ve done your time you’ll understand what your red pill was really for.

Enjoy and great MGTOW Forum question by the way!

[Article-58Participant 155]

Historically building a family was a way of guaranteeing your survival into a ripe old age because the bigger the family, the more dominating it is in it’s ability to compete for land and resources from other families!

But that’s no longer possible with the Socialy Brainwashed females of today who no longer regard their mate as half of the family, but merely a utility of “her” Family! This has become very obvious that married woman never want to be very far from her parents even if it means a reduction in income and a higher cost of living because she wants to keep that SAFTY NET close by incase she decides it’s more in her advantage to hit the “Eject” button!

This is because the Government Courts have given her an Eject button in one hand and a gun pointed at her spouse in the other hand! And free to squeeze booth simultaneously at anytime for any reason, real or imaginary!

So it’s no longer possible for a man to build a family when the spouse can profit by flushing him down the toilet and capturing all his assets and future productivity with little or no risk with the proxy power of violence of the government at her finger tips at any time and with no just cause other than selfish greed!

Women have lost their humanity by the government exploiting the destructive aspects of their behavioral nature and belittling the Constructive aspects of their nature!

The Big change I’ve seen in the majority of women’s attitudes and values is that when they marry that they no longer leaving their parents family to create a new family no matter what it takes, though both the good and bad times to ensure the survival of her immediate family. But now wemon only regard marriage as only creating an extension of her parents family of which her spouse is not a valuable member of, but a disposable member of some other unrelated family!

Women no longer consider themselves a team member of the marriage, but a Mercenary pretending to be your foxhole budy guarding each other’s back until it’s time to gut the fatten pig for the big feast and her side of the family that she’s never left for good calculated reasons!

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[Mana KnightParticipant 333]

Wow A58.
You just described the exact thing about my ex.

The FAMILY was far more important than I was ever going to be. (Rather, her ideal of what it would be). Despite the fact she acknowledged I was far more loving, kind, affectionate and connected to her than anyone she had been with, and did not think she would ever find that again, but as I did not want a family, everything I did was never going to be enough for her. And YES she did say we would HAVE to live near her parents/family so THEY could have a part in raising grandchildren.

F~~~ if my parents might have wanted anything to do with it, right? That doesn’t matter does it?

I have mentioned this on another post, so sorry for double info if I already told some of you this story, but she wanted this family (3 kids-had to be three) and the biggest thing she wanted in her life was to be a SAHM and sit in cafes with friends/family and her children – and that was it. This very specific thing had to happen, the sitting in cafes with friends.

No thought about how any of this would be afforded. She had zero savings while I have alot stashed away and in bonds (so maybe she had thought that part through…). Much as I loved her, nothing would be good enough, and this would be a life of hell had I gone through with it.

Give us each day our daily red.

[Article-58Participant 155]

Oh good god; that’s what I see hanging out in the local Cafes all f~~~ing day these days: Women living the life of leisure hanging out with girlfriends and the woman from their side of the family while spending the money produced by their two legged beast of burden!

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[KeymasterKeymaster]

Gunslinger wrote:

Had we tried and had one right after marriage, it would make our current situation so much worse…hey something positive she contributed to our relationship!

It’s our duty to remind one another: it’s not a positive.
She didn’t contribute anything “positive”. She contributed nothing of value at all.

Lemme explain….

We see this all the time. Men being somehow *GRATEFUL* because some bitch didn’t destroy his life or use his own kids as hostage and leverage against him. We have to get away from that — f~~~ing pronto — and men need to stop congratulating themselves for dodging bullets.

Forgive me for stepping in so vociferously on this, but it p~~~es me off.
Just like it p~~~es me off to hear a woman say “well, I could have taken him for much more “ like she is doing him a FAVOR.

Yes, for us, it translates to a SUCCESS STORY of sorts.
But for women it’s a goddam failure either way.

When the “benefit” of NOT doing something amounts to NO GAIN FOR YOU…… patting ourselves on the back for not doing it is like throwing a party because you played russian roulette and didn’t die. To be clear, I am not hating the player, I’m hating the game for existing in the first place… but the fight is far from over=, and the war rages on.

It’s our duty to remind one another, it’s not a positive.
She contributed nothing of value at all.

That’s the reality of the situation and it’s important for new MGTOW (and lurkers) to understand the difference.
There is no benefit in not playing russian roulette and not dying.

When the BEST thing that happens as a result of avoiding Russian Roulette is: you did’t get killed… It’s not a reason for men to celebrate. It’s a cause for women to be ashamed of themselves. There is simply NO BENEFIT to being involved with one in a relationship or marriage. They TOTALLY fail a cost/benefit analysis.

“YAY!! MY MONEY, HOUSE, FREEDOM AND FUTURE IS ALL MINE!!!!”

Wrong. It was yours BEFORE you met that bitch.
Seeing it for what it is suddenly puts it in a whole new perspective.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Mana KnightParticipant 333]

Article-58 wrote:

Oh good god; that’s what I see hanging out in the local Cafes all f~~~ing day these days: Women living the life of leisure hanging out with girlfriends and the woman from their side of the family while spending the money produced by their two legged beast of burden!

I love these forums. One of us brings up an example of something a woman does. Chances are everyone will know exactly what they mean or can relate to it.

[Canadian SportsFanParticipant 216]

Even before I found this site and could articulate it, I always thought women used kids as “the plan B alternative to work”.  In my own observation, they work pretty hard in their youth, go to college/uni, get a degree and some end up in high end business positions.  Those jobs aren’t easy.  The stress starts to take a toll and they wonder “how can I get out of this” It doesn’t take them very long to realize that kids are an easy out, and totally socially justified as well.

“I’m a stay at home mom” – OMG girl, you go show em, good for you!  While some man takes care of you.  I’ve seen this time and time again where a colleague bitches and bitches about work, then decides to get pregnant, becasue well, sitting at home on your ass is easier, even if it is a loss in income.

Women use kids as crutches, and not as motivation like men do.

 

[Article-58Participant 155]

And it retains victimhood status too!

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[Article-58Participant 155]

And you hit the psychological difference nail on the head about women using children as a PC and socially acceptable crutch, as opposed to men who see children as a motivation factor of personal responsibility!

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[Article-58Participant 155]

We all know the nature of women; but I suspect the full expression of  these natures can  be encouraged, or discouraged do to social values at the time!

A women’s nature has both good Constructive aspects and bad Destructive aspects with in the same nature.

It’s this Socialpathic nature that can be allowed to flourish, or motivated to keep in check.

When I was a kid in the 60’s, today’s Socialpath behavior of women wasn’t the common behavior of women like it is today, but the minority; It was by and large discouraged because girls were raised with a strict father in the home who would never let their daughter dress like a street whore or a loos women! Yes it did happened in those days too, but up til then it was the minority, not the majority!

And because of this difference the preditorial attitudes of today’s women were rare back then. Most women back then weren’t raised by their fathers to view men as stepping stones, but as partners in the survival of life!

True there were plenty of mischief going on in those days too; but again, it was socially unacceptable to be the towns bicycle unlike today.

I personally witnessed this transition through the 60’s and being completed by the 70’s! By then father’s couldn’t keep their daughters from dressing like Street Walkers!

This is the result of intentional social engineering by the Old Money Umber Rich Aristocratic Ruling Families to destroy our Social cohesion and family structure so there’s no organised resistance to the NWO because everyone is an island on to themselves and no one trusts each other because everyone is only looking out for themselves!

This had to be done first so most people will feel alone and hapless, at the mercy of the government. Needing the government, even viewing the government as a serogot parent!

They’re encouraging the selfish Socialpathic nature of women to undermine and control the men and children just like the same technique used to control a slave population!

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[endgameBlocked 26]

Jesus Christ this is the bulls~~~ I’m trying to avoid with my actions. Amen.

[endgameBlocked 26]

As I’ve been a victim of the same s~~~.

 

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

Marriage is your coffin, kids are the nails they sceal it with.

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[Anonymous 42]

Women have children to hold hostage and to extract everything they can from a man, that’s the modern version anyway… I know of no other version, just rumors…

[Article-58Participant 155]

Whether the “Man” is an actual male,   or a male serogot like government!

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[economistParticipant 225]

As a young guy who has only been out of high school for a few years, I have been watching this take place on my social media accounts. I went to school with a lot of girls that got into serious relationships immediately after graduation and are now pregnant or having babies. They post cliche little blurbs about how babies “complete” them and how while their bank accounts may be empty, their hearts are more full. To be honest? I feel like a lot of these girls have sad, boring lives. Their husbands all have manual labor jobs (which bring in good incomes but keep them far from home) and the wife stays at home, doing nothing productive because they have zero ability to do so. Their lives are so empty and boring that the idea of a child makes them feel like they have something to live for.

The funny thing is that I know several intelligent, successful women who honestly will go much farther in their lives than I will. Interestingly enough, they are all single and I have seen them comment multiple times on Facebook that having children young with a low income is foolish and pretty much prevents you from having a successful career. The hordes of AWALTs then attack them mercilessly “You may have a masters degree and make 60k but I have unconditional love!” etc. I’ve gotten to the point where I just chuckle at them, and in four or five years when they start to divorce their husbands in droves i’m going to laugh all the way to the bank with my non divided assets.

[Article-58Participant 155]

I think the common thread through all of this is that most women being Socialpathic view the world and all it’s characters as all merely animated objects revolving around them; them being the center of all emotions in the universe!

And the other common thread is their paradoxical dichotomy of being total control freaks on one hand, yet totally submissive and obedient to symbols of authority; whether it’s the authority of peer pressure of other women, or the authority of government with it’s con of being obligated to comply and the threat of violence if you don’t!

It’s this paradoxical dichotomy that makes women the main target in the application of psychological warfare and subversion; by the state controlling the woman, they by proxy gain control of the children and the men!

This is why the old institutions of slavery ALWAYS focused on exploiting a woman’s nature of being control freaks to control the slave males and children via the authority of their owners and the threat of violence for not complying!

And having a child also means she’ll have absolute authority and control over a captive animated object that’ll give her that unconditional love and dependence that a Socialpath always wanted! In a sense it’s like they’re breading their own captive worshipers!

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I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same of them!"

: John Wayne; The SHOOTIST )))))))

[Anonymous 29]

Article-58 wrote:

. . . . . . . .she wanted something to love her “Unconditionally”!

You should have got her a dog.

[CatsPawParticipant 423]

My cousins have kids and I see how much of a Hell their lifes are.
I actually like their kids, for 20 minutes. I can tell you, If I offered to take care of their children for one day, theyd be kissing my ass for months, and im sure at 2 hours id be drinking not to drown the little beasts.

Women never know what they want and their hormones are like taking LSD on a 60’s retro party… with costumes.
Every single woman I know has actually told me that if they could, they would go back and not have kids (easy to get them to tell you if they trust you).
Even my mother told me shed rather not have me and my sister (because she knows i dont give a f~~~, I love her but im quite insensitive to all this sociological BS of how you are supposed to think), but ofc shed never tell my sister that.

So why do they want kids? because every other woman out there tells them how much they love their kids and how awesome her life is and all that fake horse s~~~ to make sure that their friend is not having a good life. Thats right, Women are the greatest danger to women, but since they are social-dependent, they are basically screwed.

In other words: DO NOT HAVE KIDS unless your life is so easy, boring, and you have so much money that you want to experiment with something stronger than sadomasochism .

[Klaus WindamierParticipant 543]

The real reason why women desire to have children is to make her husband her possession with the child of the husband became her hostage so the husband having trouble leaving her when she going psychotic.
And for this age is, more likely child support money.

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