The Path Less Chosen

[GoodKid44Participant 1524]

What’s up Mgtow,

Wanted to introduce myself and say hello. Lots of men in here from different walks of life. Mine was the basic cookie cutter suburban kid upbringing. Middle class family, only my mother was the bread winner and my father was a “Mr. Mom” staying home taking care of us growing up. I thought nothing of it, but years later after I’d moved out and my parents had been divorced, I realized why my mother had grown to resent my father and anything he tried to do for her. That realization only came from when I started reading mgtow type material and actually listening to what it was trying to say.

Before Mgtow I was a PUA, spending years trying to find that unicorn. It taught me a lot of valuable things in learning how to work a large room and feel confident, so I don’t regret putting in all those years learning how to game hoes. But in the end it only showed me how f~~~ed up women were. A lot of my PUA friends got married and became cucked. No matter what any PUA tells you, this is what they all eventually want, to be bossed around by pussy. So I eventually abandoned the scene all together. I’d get into long term relationships here and there that would always end in the women giving me an ultimatum…so I’d just end it then and walk away. I’d stop taking their calls, lose their number (even though they’d be trying to contact me).

Either way, even though I was able to avoid getting anyone pregnant or trapped into marriage, there’s still a lot I regret. Things I didn’t know about. Things I wished I’d done differently. I lost a good friend because I too busy trying to gain status to get pussy. No amount of sex or status can ever amount to that friendship. I was too proud to apologize and own up to being in the wrong. Taking the Red Pill these last two years has made realize that I’ve got a lot of work to do. But I’m glad that I’m at least found this path when I did.

Shout out to all the men seeking the Truth and choosing to embark on the path less chosen

[bladeParticipant]

Welcome to the brotherhood . Enjoy

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[wyrParticipant 591]

Welcome brother!

Self-improvement is my religion. Sovereignty is my god.

[Anonymous 43]

welcome.

I was a stay at home dad for 9 years

[GoodKid44Participant 1524]

Nice. How did you like it? As a kid I thought it was fine. Only later in high school and college did I realize how women frown on it. My parents got divorced once I left for school (I was the youngest). They basically stayed together until all the kids moved out. But it was obvious they stopped loving each other a long time ago.

I didn’t help the situation being that I only cared about hanging out with friends, video games, and pussy at the time. My dad also had no Authority in the house. My mom would never yell but she was the master at giving people the silent treatment.
I never got along with my father either. I resented him the older I got. Not really sure why, but, He never felt like the kind of person I could confide in. Communication to this day is sparce.

In terms of understanding women and female nature I’ve always had to go about it solo

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Greetings GK44,

GoodKid44 wrote:

Before Mgtow I was a PUA, spending years trying to find that unicorn…..

Me too.

The point of MGTOW is to DELETE the toxic influences, behavior, abomination, and consequences of women from our lives in all of their vile forms.

Being Chad after my divorce was just another form of “doubling down on stupid.”

Here is a link to a discussion on what a man has to do to limit the damage from “stupidity” and the destructive path of relationS~~~s with womyn. Your feedback there is appreciated:

/forums/topic/hard-earned-strategies-used-while-engaging-the-girlfriend-option/

Anyway, a good Introduction includes descriptions of Red Pills, lessons learned, and something about your actions as a free men. The goal is for the newcomer to establish his Bonafides as a free man, MGTOW.

Without giving away specifics where others can identify you, kindly provide some niceties about what you are doing with YOUR freedom such as:

Decade of your age (20’s, 30’s, 40’s…)?

Work and living situation?

Education?

Hobbies?

What kind of fun things do YOU do?

Any future projects/ goals?

Here is test to determine how free you are from the influences of women and where you are on the MGTOW Road:

Are you at a place where a group of women talking sound like a bunch of hen’s clucking or are they “fascinating” to you?

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

Welcome.

[GoodKid44Participant 1524]

Anyway, a good Introduction includes descriptions of Red Pills, lessons learned, and something about your actions as a free men. The goal is for the newcomer to establish his Bonafides as a free man, MGTOW.

Without giving away specifics where others can identify you, kindly provide some niceties about what you are doing with YOUR freedom such as:

Decade of your age (20’s, 30’s, 40’s…)?

Work and living situation?

Education?

Hobbies?

What kind of fun things do YOU do?

Any future projects/ goals?

Will do. Wasn’t trying to write a book but I did leave all this out so I”ll continue.

I got into the PUA game in my early 20’s; living in the South, while attending University. I had literally just ended it with a girl I was seeing for a few months and I can remember getting off the phone with her after I rejected her wanting to come over to talk about it (which would have lead to make up sex), how and why I felt like I still wasn’t in control. I honestly didn’t want to keep getting with these bitches if they were going to constantly start arguments.
So I got on Google and start searching. David D’Angelo was the first thing that popped up. Got on his news letters and started ABSORBING everything that man said. I also downloaded every program he had (the advanced dating series is still LEGIT to this day). Then I read the book the Game, and it was off to the races with sarging. The freedom I felt going out and saying what ever the f~~~ I wanted, to see what worked, or to at least get a reaction out of these women.
This was back in the day when you could go to a bar/club and ask every girl in the room “who lies more, women or men…”
I don’t even remember the online forums I got on, but every weekend I’d meet up with guys looking to sarge it up. We peac~~~ed, got numbers, and attempted to make out with girls as quickly as possible. By this time I was steadily going over everything from Mystery Method, to Annhilation Method, to everything RSD put out…and it was never enough. I was a sponge. I was getting tired of my the small college town I was in and felt like I was going nowhere. Got an opportunity to head to the East Coast and took it. Literally up and left in less than two weeks. The best friend I was staying with (we were really tight) was shocked and I was a dick for not really talking to him about it (I haven’t spoken to him in over 10 years…I still have his contact info, but I can’t bring myself to call him).

Up east was where I really got to know the game. And I got good, real good, but everything else suffered because of it. My infatuation with wanting to master the art of attracting women had consumed me. Only years later after I stepped away from it did I realize how selfish I’d become. It had made me leave my best friend in the dust. I thought I was going to find the key to happiness, and I only ended up finding to the path to hell, which was women. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was making us think it didn’t exist. But it does….and it’s women. Literally and Figuratively.

Work/Living Situation

I’m still in the east coast. Working as a DJ in Titty Bars. I’d also been trying to build up my DJ business and I’d had a pretty good run doing some private events and some Latin parties, but eventually those all dried up. The most consistent work I can get now is DJing strip clubs. It’s paying the bills but barely. I’m also too lazy to build my own website and start producing music (something all DJ’s MUST do in order to get some sort of momentum…you can’t just play music anymore and expect people to make you famous over night). I literally have no will power. I feel burned out and exhausted. After my last relationship (2 years or so) ended I stopped going out, stopped socializing. Went into Monk mode without even realizing it was MGTOW. I found out about Mgtow much later and then decided to embrace it.
I’m currently applying for jobs online (actually have an interview tomorrow, fingers crossed), for something to do that’s non DJ related, see if I can hack it. My current gig is pretty much mgtow’esk but not really in that I have to deal with women, and they all try to test and hustle me. I feel like a pimp most of the time having to constantly put these hoes in their place. I yearn for a job that doesn’t have me dealing with women anymore, or working with them.

I currently live in a house and I rent out the rest of rooms to random strangers (everything seems to be working out so far) so I can keep my living expenses at a minimum. A lot of people say they would never do what I’m doing and they’d rather live alone, but rent up here is not cheap. If you live alone in this area you’re basically making over 80k a year including taxes. Some days are better than others with the roommmates but for the most part I’m always worried about them catching on that on my days off I literally stay home all day and relax. I never go out and don’t intend to so long as I’m still DJing in these clubs. I hate alcohol and don’t do drugs. I love the art of djing and music but the night life scene is so cucked and manipulated by pussy that I’m done with it. My red pill was realizing that I got into DJing and music production so I could get status and lots of pussy. I wanted to be the next Opie and Anthony or Stern, but we all know what happened to Radio and how it’s basically a dead Job field like Journalism. Getting paid to do either and making a living out of it is not for faint of heart.
I’ve been kicking around this field for the last 10 years and barely have anything to show for.

I went to school for Radio/TV and now you can basically learn what I did for free on youtube. I was able to pay off all 40k of student loans I had. But now I’m just getting by day to day with just enough to pay rent and buy healthy food. I won’t be traveling anytime soon or being able to visit family. Though I’m as free as I’ve ever felt I also feel trapped. But I chose this path, and have no one else to blame but my own ignorant ass.

****Hobbies
For hobbies I’m really into health and fitness. I do a lot of yoga but that too gets repetitive to where I have to take breaks even though it makes me feel great everytime I finish a session. I used love making mix tapes but now that DJing has become a job to me I rarely want to mess around with it when I’m off. I did start a podcast with another retired PUA friend of mine (he’s got an LTR he’s been with for almost a year, and she’s butt ugly, fat etc.) and we record an episode one every week or so. I honestly love being a home body and am not sure how much longer I’ll be staying in like this. I literally only leave the house to go to work or to the park to work out. I also got into doing a Ketogenic diet which has been amazing for me. I’m experimenting with it along side Intermittant fasting. I do a 48 hour fast once a week and am trying to get up to 170 by February (I’m skinny as f~~~). I’ve also stopped going out to eat and will only eat what I cook, all organic (except for steaks, that s~~~ gets expensive), all fresh.

In terms of fun things, I consider researching mgtow/red pill topics very fun. I no longer feel that I need a woman to make me happy or complete. I do what I want when I want. The only regrets I have are not having spoken to my best friend in a while. I literally cannot come up with the courage to call him and tell him how I feel. He’s probably married by now, kid or 2…hell, maybe he’s even divorced already. He never knew about my PUA lifestyle. I felt ashamed to even tell him so I never did. We used to play counter strike together for HOURS, literally becoming sleepless zombies the next day.
I haven’t played video games since besides basic mobile device gaming. Even back then you were considered an immature fool if you spent too much time playing video games. Women still love to shame us for it. I honestly don’t have the time but am also afraid that I’ll never get anything done if I do start gaming it up again.

Right now, I’m trying to save up as much money as I can, which is not going to well but I have stopped spending like I used to since I stopped going out and eating out. I’m in my late 30’s now and still feel like I did back when I graduated college…having no idea what the f~~~ I was doing. Some days are better than others is all I can say fellas. And that I keep moving forward hoping to figure something out. I rack my brain everyday trying to figure out how to get out of this rut I’m in. I don’t want to go back to school unless I get in for free. I’m never taking out loans again. I was thinking trade school but I’m never taking out loans again so that’s out…but I’m open to suggestions

Thanks for listening

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

GoodKid44 wrote:

…….I haven’t spoken to him in over 10 years…I still have his contact info, but I can’t bring myself to call him…..

That’s the Pusillanimous conditioning that is screwing with all of us these days.
You must gather what is left of your Fighting Spirit and resist that conditioning.

Tower wrote something last year about how a man’s soul is like a roll of toilet paper that gets used up when we are in a RelationS~~~ with a woman. In time and with continued interaction with her, what remains of a man’s soul is just an empty cardboard roll.

Being Bold and overcoming the god of guilt are masculine traits.

Reaching out to old Pals is something that is wonderful and worthwhile.

I have been making the time to do that for the past ten years.

Sometimes friends have grown so far apart that there is only a one time meeting, but I am grateful for getting up off my ass and making the effort. The old friends always appreciate the b~~~~ it takes to reach out. See my MGTOW avatar picture on your left.

One guy I known since grade school. There was a lot of time with no contact and we moved on in opposite directions in life. Now we get together a couple time per month and talk once a week on the phone. I’m looking forward to seeing him and his granddaughter tomorrow. Reaching out to that old friend is one of the best things I have done lately.

Sometimes the information I had in the past was all wrong. One old friend who disappeared for decades was glad I reached out to him.
Now he was finally able to tell me that he was messed up for a while and he needed lots of time alone to heal.
He was raped by one of his sergeants in the US Army.
When he spoke up he was beaten and thrown in prison by this sergeant’s butt buddies.
My old friend attempted suicide.

GoodKid44 wrote:

…….The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was making us think it didn’t exist. But it does….and it’s women. Literally and Figuratively.

Amen Brother!

Our Ancestors knew.

Here is something from early European history that Illustrates “Woman’s Nature:”

GoodKid44 wrote:

……David D’Angelo was the first thing that popped up. Got on his newsletters and started ABSORBING everything that man said………………….

Me too.

Here is a link to a Post that discusses an option for men who have “Game.” Your feedback is appreciated there:

/forums/topic/having-a-stable-of-women/

David D’Angelo’s material also helped me to “Unschool” my son, help him to think, and enjoy learning again. I had to home school him when he was in eighth grade. We lived near a college campus and had access to it.

GoodKid44 wrote:

…..We used to play counter strike together for HOURS, literally becoming sleepless zombies the next day….

Back in the day, my son and I would play StarCraft in the computer centers at the local college with others. He was able to challenge the graduate students and I could barely hold my own against the freshmen.

There were some fun Halo parties I took him to that were hosted by Friends that had their whole house set up with multiple Xbox consoles.

GoodKid44 wrote:

…..I was thinking trade school…. but .……. I’m open to suggestions…..

My youngest brother and an old friend are part time DJs. They are both struggling to keep it going.

My brother signed up with Amazon.com as a contractor who installs and repairs their products. There is an App on his phone that provides the list of jobs.

Last month, he picked up me and our Dad (late 80’s) to help him install an entertainment center. Dad ended up entertaining the customers with stories while me and my brother assembled the cabinets, hung the large monitor/ speakers, ran the wires, and set up the system. When we were done in the afternoon, we all went to a Pub to have some beers and we played music together.

My other three brothers and I agree that we will all probably end up working for our youngest brother at Amazon.com, especially after the Goblins steal our pensions.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[GoodKid44Participant 1524]

Wow, I’ve seen that option on Amazon for when you buy a big setup. Amazon is starting to compete against the geek squad. That’s pretty awesome. I applied for one of their technician jobs and wondering if it’s this very thing. They haven’t called so we’ll see.

Yeah man, computer games are the s~~~ compared to console games (but consoles have finally stepped it up…but still not even close to the PC Experience). I’m looking to do another PC build for next summer but I’m hoping it gets easier in terms of dealing with Windows 10. I had windows 8 with my prior build and it sucked. After three years I gave it to a friend because of all the UI issues I was having (my friends like dealing tinkering with windows bulls~~~). It’s less powerful but I never have compatibility issues with the imac. Great machine for browsing the web and streaming, but I can’t game on it.

I’ve got a love hate relationship with video games because they definitely distract the s~~~ out of me. But now that women are out of the equation, those distractions only amount to what ever I want to do with myself. Women loooooved to shame me for even talking about video games. I literally could have been one of the first people to get on Twitch, and now that window has closed.

Wow, good on you for taking matters into your own hands and re-teaching your son to love learning again. Schools are poison, from the food they serve to the curriculum they choose to go with. But damn man, it’s def no easy task home schooling when you have to pay the bills. Raising a kid is 24/7 work, non stop

Thanks for all the awesome info you’re linking on here. This forum has some really great resources.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

GoodKid44 wrote:

…..Amazon is starting to compete against the geek squad. That’s pretty awesome. I applied for one of their technician jobs and wondering if it’s this very thing. They haven’t called so we’ll see.

A Geek Squad Job is hard to get.

But, getting in as a serviceman (Handyman) with Amazon.com is done mostly on line. It is a lot easier to get a job there than most other places that are based in an office/ Building like Geek Squad.
Once the Bonafides check out, you are then part of the Amazon team until you screw up which can happen easily with negative reviews.
There is a learning curve, because there are many ways for a worker to be cheated by the customers and Amazon.

There is also a Dog walking App (Job) that is a good part time job for those that live in cities with public transportation.
A lot of Yuppies are too busy to take care of their pets.
Some Dog lovers can’t have them in their current living situation, so they can now get paid by spending time with a Yuppies’ dogs.
The dog walking jobs are set up and verified on your smart phone like an Uber cab.

GoodKid44 wrote:

…I’m looking to do another PC build for next summer…

Me Too.

I have been building computers first with my younger Brothers (I raised them) and then later with my Son.

There is a computer supply store in the Mid-West USA called Microcenter which is awesome. Most of the guys that hang out there are like us. Many of them have military training with computers. It is great to talk to other likeminded men there.

My newest build uses Windows 7 with a solid state hard drive, lots of memory and a bad ass processor.

GoodKid44 wrote:

I’m hoping it gets easier in terms of dealing with Windows 10

A lap top that I am using has Windows 10. What a nightmare!!!

One of my computer Savvy brothers has nothing but bad things to say about Windows 10 as the biggest spying tool for the Gynocracy ever. He claims that free men should at least use Windows 7 and NEVER Windows 10.

GoodKid44 wrote:

….Women loooooved to shame me for even talking about video games….

Me Too.

Sniper Elite & Halo Wars are my favorites for the Xbox 1 console.

All of the newest ones for games series like Halo and Call of Duty are disappointments.

I can’t get past the stink of Tuna that reeks in most of today’s video games. Is there nothing sacred???

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[GoodKid44Participant 1524]

Yeah, most games are so damn feminized. Even the new Wolfenstein looks to be cucked. The trailer has some black chick doing all the talking for Blaskowitz. Hopefully it’s still good.

I was really hoping Valve would release the new left 4 dead which is why I’ll wait it out till next summer and start doing pricing research. I love going over inventory and drafting up a budget, meticulously going over every detail to avoid any headaches. Everything down to how silent the fans are. My 2012 rig sounded like a Jet Engine when it was being pushed hard. Looking forward to seeing what new innovations are out there.

Another reason I’m waiting is because of Windows 10. Please Microsoft get all the kinks worked out already (once I install it I’ll have to remove all the snooping features they turn on automatically….). Have you used it? Is it at least better than windows 8.1 (lol)?

[AttonParticipant]

You have a lot less to regret than most people who introduce themselves here.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[GoodKid44Participant 1524]

Atton wrote:

You have a lot less to regret than most people who introduce themselves here.

Yeah, I have alot to be thankful for. One of the greatest things I’m very thankful for was that I caught on to female bulls~~~ at a very young age. Like since middle school. I got with this really cute Latin chick who was from a broken home. Her older sister was dating a drug dealer, who would basically pass her around to all his other gang member friends, and she was basically leaning the ropes to be the next whore in the family. The mother was never around and was already married a couple times.

I was a nerdy kid who just moved into the neighborhood and we got to know each other at the neighborhood pool. Even at age 12 this chick was running crazy cuck games to keep me in check. I’ll never forget how it made me feel and how many more steps she was ahead of me in terms of social dynamics.

From that summer on I was watching out for these hoes.

Marriage never appealed to me. And most of my family members looked like s~~~ in their marriages.

Why am I still torn up about this situation? Because women look at a guy like me who isn’t interested in them and they want to destroy my ability to thrive. I’m dangerous to them and they’ll stop at nothing. My guy friends will get a girlfriend and they’ll meet me and instantly get defensive around him. I act like me around women, they don’t get special privileges, and most women feel threatened by that

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

GoodKid44 wrote:

……Windows 10. ….Have you used it? Is it at least better than windows 8.1 (lol)?

Yes.

And sort of.

I have been struggling with a Windows 10 Laptop for business/ travel purposes, since last year. Yesterday, the Universities’ Audiovisual set up would not recognize it and I was unable to use my PowerPoint presentation for my lecture (normally, I use a thumb drive).

When I first got it, I was looking forward to exploring the new “Improvements” myself. Also, I enjoy learning and observing the cleverness of the young folks who end up helping me when I get stuck. Now, the “Honeymoon” is over with Windows 10 and I want a divorce.

Windows 10 makes me feel like the Old Fart who will only ever be able to use a flip phone with the large number dial pad.

My Windows 7 desk top that I built is my trusty reliable work horse. So, I have avoided Windows 8.1 like the plague.

Most of the twenty something college Students I talked to yesterday are using MACs. I suspect that Windows 10 was created to make Laptop owners switch to MACs.

Nevertheless,the few college students who are dealing with Windows 10 seem to be managing it OK.

The Forums at MGTOW.com may be of better help. If it is not discussed enough, maybe you can start a discussion Thread in the “Computers, Games, and Technology” section of the Forums.

Here is a link that discusses Windows 10:

/forums/topic/another-win-10-hijack-fail-thanks-c-pig/

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[GoodKid44Participant 1524]

The Manipulated Man wrote:

GoodKid44 wrote:

……Windows 10. ….Have you used it? Is it at least better than windows 8.1 (lol)?

Yes.

And sort of.

I have been struggling with a Windows 10 Laptop for business/ travel purposes, since last year. Yesterday, the Universities’ Audiovisual set up would not recognize it and I was unable to use my PowerPoint presentation for my lecture (normally, I use a thumb drive).

When I first got it, I was looking forward to exploring the new “Improvements” myself. Also, I enjoy learning and observing the cleverness of the young folks who end up helping me when I get stuck. Now, the “Honeymoon” is over with Windows 10 and I want a divorce.

Windows 10 makes me feel like the Old Fart who will only ever be able to use a flip phone with the large number dial pad.

My Windows 7 desk top that I built is my trusty reliable work horse. So, I have avoided Windows 8.1 like the plague.

Most of the twenty something college Students I talked to yesterday are using MACs. I suspect that Windows 10 was created to make Laptop owners switch to MACs.

Nevertheless,the few college students who are dealing with Windows 10 seem to be managing it OK.

The Forums at MGTOW.com may be of better help. If it is not discussed enough, maybe you can start a discussion Thread in the “Computers, Games, and Technology” section of the Forums.

Here is a link that discusses Windows 10:

/forums/topic/another-win-10-hijack-fail-thanks-c-pig/

Damn, that f~~~ing blows. I am not looking forward to doing a build with that UI. I love computers games over console games but Windows sucks. This is gonna be another headache lol. Thanks for the link, I’ll peep it

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