The MGTOW.com Sandman Jet Fighter Welcome Video has been stricken

[LiveFreeParticipant 172]

Correction: I thought it was UniversalStudios13 who made this thread’s original video. It’s actually MGTOW Messenger. They sound alike. Will check out MGTOW Messenger’s channel now. Sorry, my bad.

For every man truly going his own way, some woman, somewhere, has to pay her own way through life.

[AlbertParticipant 646]

What a first class t~~~ Sandman has turned out to be!

I’ve not listened to his videos in a long time because I thought he was a young, smug, know-it-all but to hear him call MGTOW men cowards made me feel physically sick. I even briefly glanced at the date on my computer to make sure it wasn’t April fools day yet.

The saddest thing is that this jerk has almost 26,000 subscribers, probably made up of mostly young men who are listening to and being taken in by his bulls~~~.

Soul Man wrote:

Sandman sounds like a youngster devoid of any real experience with this subject matter.  He will be singing a different tune when his cornhole gets wallered out by some alleged NAWALT.  Ego can be a man’s most deadly enemy.

Keymaster wrote:

when you turn on youtube and see another man claiming to be “MGTOW” lecturing you on how “cowardly” you are, you may as well just get a wife, commit financial suicide on the spot, and it forbids Sandman from wearing a MGTOW badge.

E=MC² Bitch

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Subscribers and popularity is not a reliable indicator of value. There was once a time when most of the world “subscribed” to the idea of a flat Earth. But were they correct? Generating “likes” is one of the easiest things to do. Just tell people exactly what they want to hear. Done.

MGTOW are not in it for the “likes” or subscriptions, but the fact that Barbarossa has fewer than Sandman is sickening in itself.

Sandman talks about himself so much, but Barb , Spetsnaz, et al are able to zoom the camera WAY out into orbit , and conceptualize and theorizes in a way that pertains to EVERYONE – and they back it up with more than just a personal/anecdotal opinion. That’s the measure of greatness. When a man is able to remove himself from the equation and think of something bigger and more important than himself. It’s why a man once looked at a flat earth and said “goddammit Im gonna prove it’s round even if it kills me” …. and then he rolls up his sleeves, builds an armada of ships and crosses the world’s most tempestuous oceans to find out for all mankind that world is indeed ROUND.

After that, the popular and fashionable opinion didn’t count for s~~~ anymore.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[AlbertParticipant 646]

Brilliant analogy. Cheers Keymaster.

I hope many of Sandman’s subscribers make their way to this site and away from his self serving channel.

E=MC² Bitch

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Ouch, Sandman. He had to know that was not going to go down well. It’s one thing to talk about the hurt and anger that many men have experienced (and continue to experience) at the hands of females they once loved and trusted but to suggest that all men who eschew intimate contact with females are emotionally broken cowards is quite another.

And hey, if he feels he’s moved past some early stage into a later, more evolved stage of MGTOW then fine, let him talk about his experience and share that with the guys who haven’t quite made it there yet. But for a dude who professes to be all about welcoming the freshly disconnected into the world of the real, he really should have been more diplomatic about trying to reframe the discussion like that. Wise experienced people don’t maintain leadership positions by s~~~ting on others they see as being less far along the path.

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

LiveFree wrote:

Correction: I thought it was UniversalStudios13 who made this thread’s original video. It’s actually MGTOW Messenger. They sound alike. Will check out MGTOW Messenger’s channel now. Sorry, my bad.

Ooops.  Sorry to MGTOW Messenger.  Great video by the way, and I am heading to his channel now also for a look.

BVC

 

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Ain’t going to be a easy road, nothing is. This situation with sandman won’t be the first, and won’t be the last. Will going to have to deal with, liars, backstabbing, deception, etc.

Real question is: What’s up with these “donations”? What was he using it for? He never really said? It’s not like he’s was going to buy billboard and write mgtow, to let the world to see.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Sandman has had a lapse, or two, or three. I choose to learn from everyone, step aside for anybody, and step back for no one.

Thus, I will drop in on his site from time to time, watch what I want, and discard the rest.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

It’s a leader less movement, or whatever you want to call it, which means we’re a prime target, for somebody to hijack it, and try to lead it in a different direction.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[RoyDalParticipant]

bigboy83 wrote:

It’s a leader less movement, or whatever you want to call it,

The Brits had this problem when they were trying to quell the American Revolution. No matter what they conquered, and occupied with their troops, we did not need it. We just kept on keeping on. In the end, they were surrounded and exhausted. They won most all of the battles; they lost the war. They simply gave up. (With all honor to the French intervention, needless to say.)

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[VoidraitheParticipant 477]

Quite disappointing. A lot of what he said rang true yet I always had a weird feeling he’d find a NAWALT and disappear. His YT channel was maybe even was a way for him to find his NAWALT by tempting women with the forbidden fruit. “I TAMED A MGTOW ISN’T MY PUSSY AWESOME”

I stopped watching Sandman about a month ago to be honest.

 

[Cap285Participant 6007]

Those F-18’s kick ass.

Sandman was a wolf in the fold? Can’t say I’m surprised. Loved the guys response.

He probably has a girlfriend or got a BJ or something. At least he’s exposed.

Fuck this planet.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Cap285 wrote:

Those F-18’s kick ass.

Sandman was a wolf in the fold? Can’t say I’m surprised. Loved the guys response.

He probably has a girlfriend or got a BJ or something. At least he’s exposed.

Well I don’t want to spoil the surprise but you haven’t seen YOURS yet. Decked out in Captain America stars and striped with a shield and nose paint and it says “CAP 285” on the nose. Like it or not, you’re making a cameo in this puppy. I will email you a test in a couple of weeks. Cheers buddy,

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 0]

Cap285 wrote:

Those F-18’s kick ass.

hehe.

BTW: Do you know what is going on with GYOW.com?

[Anonymous 1]

I personally think it was way off line his labeling of men that don’t have relationship as “cowards”, regardless of their reason for doing so. I was betrayed by a female friend in the past, but never by a girlfriend. Why never a girlfriend? Because I never dated. At first (when I was a teenager) it was because I was not that attractive/wanted by the opposite sex. However, nowadays, I think I saw a couple of women trying to play their little seduction game with me and I just played dumb and didn’t show any interest on them. Should I feel guilty? Am I a coward? Apparently, according to Sandman I might be. OR, I might have just watched what happened to friends and colleagues of mine that did date and had a relationships and decided, not only put my standards a little bit higher, but avoid all the drama if possible. Beside having looks (and a pussy), a women should also have a personality. And then MAYBE I would give her a chance. So far the couple of girls that did showed interest on me failed on these pretty simple requirements. Am I emotionally damaged because of that? Maybe. But I rather be that way then be the brave or the “real” man that Sandman keeps referring to (that, according to him, don’t exist anymore).

If the only reason to have a girlfriend is sex, then I would rather hire a hooker.

It’s a shame. I used to watch his older videos, and when he started to post everyday I still tried to watch them. But then I got over burned  with his content and on the last couple of videos I did watch I started to feel he was turning back to blue pill when he started with the “there are no real men anymore” talk. His last video was the last drop for me.

Already unsubscribed from him, not wasting more of my time. I am glad I never donated to him, if I had given him money I would be p~~~ed. Right now, I’m just disappointed.

P.S.: @keymaster: Those planes are really freaking cool! What program are you using to model them (Maya, 3dMax, Blender)? Do you have experience with 3d in production? I am really impressed! and curious! 🙂 I am interested in 3d art, VFX, compositing, so any tip you could pass on would be highly appreciated!

Cheers.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

Anonymous wrote:

Cap285 wrote:

Those F-18’s kick ass.

hehe.

BTW: Do you know what is going on with GYOW.com?

Don’t know the tech details, but Jagr said it would be down.

Fuck this planet.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

Keymaster wrote:

Cap285 wrote:

Those F-18’s kick ass.

Sandman was a wolf in the fold? Can’t say I’m surprised. Loved the guys response.

He probably has a girlfriend or got a BJ or something. At least he’s exposed.

Well I don’t want to spoil the surprise but you haven’t seen YOURS yet. Decked out in Captain America stars and striped with a shield and nose paint and it says “CAP 285″ on the nose. Like it or not, you’re making a cameo in this puppy. I will email you a test in a couple of weeks. Cheers buddy,

Like it or not?! Honored! I want a Bunker Buster, with “Lisa Concepion” painted on it, a JDAM with “MGTOW” painted on it, Mark 82’s with “To the blue pill world painted on them and a Maverick with “Red Pill” painted on it. This picture will be my computer, IPAD and phone background!

Yes!

Fuck this planet.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

db325 wrote:

automat6n wrote:

@keymaster, I’m going to go out on a limb here and figure that if you took the time to make a video promoting Sandman, you obviously found him of some worth in regards to the MGTOW movement. I listened to Sandman’s entire clip on Monks of MGTOW….was he out of line with a couple of the comments?…sure. But he is, like all men, entitled to his opinions. I’m guessing he didn’t quite think those things that he said through very well…but perhaps we should cut him some slack. At least until we see how/if he responds to the criticism. Bottom line, I’ve read many posts on here by you and others bluntly stating that as MGTOW, there are no set rules, commandments, magna carte…whatever. We’re all entitled to our opinions different or same, and shouldn’t be judged for having them…I think we become hypocrites if we judge Sandman for having an OPINION on how to deal with the pain and suffering inflicted by a women from a past relationship…his opinion may differ from some, and even offend others…but as MGTOW…he is more than allowed to have it. Because if he isn’t allowed…then you’d better get your pen out and write the 10 commandments then…so we all know what we can/or can’t say or do.

There’s a difference between an opinion and an attack. This was an attack on men who want nothing to do with women because they have been put through the grinder. It’s misandry and he’s no different then any of these feminists out here. By labeling men cowards and describeing them as “wallowing in their own misery” is a bulls~~~ ad hominem attack towards men who live differently then he does and obviously suffer through pain he hasn’t experienced. That video is a giant crock of s~~~. I cannot believe it hasn’t been down voted into infinity and beyond yet. Sandman is a disgrace to mgtow’s across the spectrum.

Seconded. It was an attack of shaming.

Fuck this planet.

[Anonymous 0]

Cap285 wrote:

Don’t know the tech details, but Jagr said it would be down.

Thanks Pal.

How did it come that nearly at the same day the S-Man F18 Hornet vid. was shown here, the Revelation video of s-man was recognized?..hap?

[Anonymous 1]

Sandman never really seemed like an informative mgtow anyway. His videos bore me and he seems to be reading off a script. I prefer MayorOfMGTOW and Neo Unplugged since the videos are short and too the point and these guys don’t bulls~~~.

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