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Some of you may have seen it already, but we’ve been working on a MGTOW animated Jet Fighter sequence. We painstakingly created various personalized fighter jets for certain prominent MGTOW – complete with decals and even radio voices. Twelve hours ago, we released the Sandman Jet video intro to be first one that would greet you – even using his voice synthetically modified to sound like a radio communication.
We have just stricken the Sandman video intro after watching this. Turns out he never left the plantation at all. Looks like he’s gone full Aaron Clarey and rolled over on MGTOW…. or maybe he met a nawalt unicorn?
Some comments that followed:
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Wow, I can’t believe what I just listened to… How can he claim to be a MGTOW and defend the plantation? How can he call this most sacred of men’s spaces where we can talk of our hurts, our fears and our pains without ridicule the domain of cowards? How can he say that it is cowardly to seek to prevent the destruction or enslavement of your life to someone who doesn’t give a f~~~ about equal exchange?
Sandman you sir are a disappointment, if MGTOW were the military we would drum you out with a dishonorable discharge.
The critical failure in his analysis is EXACTLY the same as the everyone else’s in the blue-pill world — blindly assuming “they must have been hurt”, and that “you’re just bitter” nonsense. It’s not a REQUIREMENT to be devastated by women, or hurt financially and emotionally in a divorce to be MGTOW. You don’t need to *personally* murder someone to know that it’s WRONG.
MGTOW.com does not exist because I was flattened by a c~~~ or p~~~ed off because some woman took something from me that I didn’t willingly GIVE her. Smart people learn from their mistakes…. but smarter people learn from OTHER people’s mistakes. He is in no position to be shaming MGTOW for being “cowards”. Will the bulls~~~ non-MGTOW videos he makes on “make up” and “women’s shoes”, he failed to make a video on that core fundamental.
There is a very big difference between “bravery” and STUPIDITY.
It doesn’t take “courage” to be in a cohabitation/relationship (or marriage)….It requires STUPIDITY.
This is not “anger” or “bitter”. It’s f~~~ing sensible.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous5I held back from commenting on the latest Sandman video about lack of sperm donors.
He mentions the fear of it coming back to haunt you,,,,,,,, amongst a whole range of questionable explanations?
Here it is Sandman,,,,REASON: WE’RE F~~~ING TERRIFIED THAT NO MATTER WHAT WE SIGN, IT’LL COME BACK TO HAUNT US, DEVASTATINGLY!!!
and there’s no end of indications that it’ll be doing just that. You should have googled this before posting.
(or asked yourself why you wouldn’t donate)The speaker in the above video also accepted the lack of depth and off-topic videos Sandman’s been making for the same reason I did, that too many videos were being made to find relevant material for. It wasn’t a deal breaker.
I’ve gone through the whole experience that the speaker in the video has.
You’ll find the welcoming strip search to be a little gem you’ll never quite forget.
I’m not keen on being white-feathered either but I’m sure the above speaker will cool down sooner or later and be able to laugh.Sandman, enjoy the Femmo shamer’s s~~~ bin, because that’s where I’ve flushed you.
What a piece of s~~~ Sandman is. Stardusk was right about him. The whole marketing gimmick thing, all that bulls~~~ talk “daily dose of red pills” horse s~~~. MGTOW isn’t a marketing gimmick, it’s a way of life and as a man it’s the safest way to go about it. Sick and f~~~ing tired of society and other men in the manosphere saying that you are a coward because your angry and hurt. I’m no longer angry and hurt and past it but I won’t shame the men who have had it much worse than I ever did. This male on male misandry is sickening. That’s what this s~~~ is. Sandman is no different then the Feminists now. F~~~ him and his channel.
The next generation of MGTOW
Sandman is a traitor. A regular Judas or Benedict Arnold. Sells out the whole MGTOW belief just because he obviously met a piece of ass that he fancies.
But Sandman isn’t, and never was…the representation of MGTOW. We cut our losses and move on.
I say KEEP the jet video intro, but just change all mention of Sandman to KEYMASTER. Because THAT guy has the perfect MGTOW background and his posts are kicking ass! I always love what he has to say. GO, Keymaster! Team MGTOW all the way!!!
Not cool, more than that, he has lost all respect, credence and integrity. Why would he have flushed his reputation and good standing down the drain like that? Just goes to show its hard to build a respectable reputation over time and so easy to flush it down the drain. The biological imperative is strong, but to remain free we must find strength to listen to logic over emotion, reason over feelings, I won’t let anyone or anything get in my way. I’m free, independent and self sufficient, I’m not angry or afraid, I’m worn out and pity fools like the sandman.
On a side note how long till he gets f~~~ed over by his unicorn? I give it 2 to 3 months. Best of luck Sandman, you’re gonna need it.
When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
I’m going to go out on a limb here and figure that if you took the time to make a video promoting Sandman, you obviously found him of some worth in regards to the MGTOW movement. I listened to Sandman’s entire clip on Monks of MGTOW….was he out of line with a couple of the comments?…sure. But he is, like all men, entitled to his opinions. I’m guessing he didn’t quite think those things that he said through very well…but perhaps we should cut him some slack. At least until we see how/if he responds to the criticism.
Bottom line, I’ve read many posts on here by you and others bluntly stating that as MGTOW, there are no set rules, commandments, magna carte…whatever. We’re all entitled to our opinions different or same, and shouldn’t be judged for having them…I think we become hypocrites if we judge Sandman for having an OPINION on how to deal with the pain and suffering inflicted by a women from a past relationship…his opinion may differ from some, and even offend others…but as MGTOW…he is more than allowed to have it. Because if he isn’t allowed…then you’d better get your pen out and write the 10 commandments then…so we all know what we can/or can’t say or do.
@Keymaster, I’m going to go out on a limb here and figure that if you took the time to make a video promoting Sandman, you obviously found him of some worth in regards to the MGTOW movement. I listened to Sandman’s entire clip on Monks of MGTOW….was he out of line with a couple of the comments?…sure. But he is, like all men, entitled to his opinions. I’m guessing he didn’t quite think those things that he said through very well…but perhaps we should cut him some slack. At least until we see how/if he responds to the criticism. Bottom line, I’ve read many posts on here by you and others bluntly stating that as MGTOW, there are no set rules, commandments, magna carte…whatever. We’re all entitled to our opinions different or same, and shouldn’t be judged for having them…I think we become hypocrites if we judge Sandman for having an OPINION on how to deal with the pain and suffering inflicted by a women from a past relationship…his opinion may differ from some, and even offend others…but as MGTOW…he is more than allowed to have it. Because if he isn’t allowed…then you’d better get your pen out and write the 10 commandments then…so we all know what we can/or can’t say or do.
There’s a difference between an opinion and an attack. This was an attack on men who want nothing to do with women because they have been put through the grinder. It’s misandry and he’s no different then any of these feminists out here. By labeling men cowards and describeing them as “wallowing in their own misery” is a bulls~~~ ad hominem attack towards men who live differently then he does and obviously suffer through pain he hasn’t experienced. That video is a giant crock of s~~~. I cannot believe it hasn’t been down voted into infinity and beyond yet. Sandman is a disgrace to mgtow’s across the spectrum.
The next generation of MGTOW
Wow! I have a ton of thoughts on this but don’t have near enough time to write it all out.
Yeah I am one of those guys in his 40s who had been subjected to all kinds of abuse at the hands of a f~~~ed up legal system. I’ve been severely financially sanctioned. I have been denied access to my child because some sociopathic c~~~ knew the court would do nothing to her even though I had everything spelled out in a legal document from that court. I have been hauled in to court repeatedly for frivolous bulls~~~ just to drain me financially. I had to pay attorneys over and over just to have these bulls~~~ suits dismissed. You know what? It f~~~ed me up bad for a long time. Sure I was bitter and angry! Who the f~~~ wouldn’t be? I thought about killing myself many times. S~~~, I thought about killing her many times too! I drank myself blind. I did enough drugs to kill a herd of elephants. However, I thank God Almighty for sparing me. He saved me because I have a mission on this planet. Am I free of bitterness and anger? For the most part yes although it still creeps up on me from time to time when something sets me off. I am a lot better. I don’t hate women. I am not scared of women. I don’t respect them as a group because they do the things they do to men just because they can get away with it. I DO understand the nature of the beast and now respect the devastation that can result from engaging with women in certain capacities. Does that make me a coward? HA…..HA….F~~~ NO! It makes me wise I think. Wise enough to understand that I cannot get a fair shake when it comes to interactions with women and a severely gender biased legal system. Anyone is a f~~~ing fool who doesn’t learn from his mistakes.
Sandman sounds like a youngster devoid of any real experience with this subject matter. He will be singing a different tune when his cornhole gets wallered out by some alleged NAWALT. Ego can be a man’s most deadly enemy.
HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...
Anonymous5RULE 1 : Don’t call men cowards for going their own way.
@Fadeaway
There’s a difference between an opinion and an attack. This was an attack on men who want nothing to do with women because they have been put through the grinder. It’s misandry and he’s no different then any of these feminists out here. By labeling men cowards and describeing them as “wallowing in their own misery” is a bulls~~~ ad hominem attack towards men who live differently then he does and obviously suffer through pain he hasn’t experienced. That video is a giant crock of s~~~. I cannot believe it hasn’t been down voted into infinity and beyond yet. Sandman is a disgrace to mgtow’s across the spectrum.
With all due respect, I just think I interpreted what Sandman was saying differently than the majority on this thread so far. I didn’t take it as an attack. I don’t think he was saying it was cowardly for men to want nothing to do with women who have hurt them…I took at as he was saying it was cowardly to wallow in self pity or pain after said hurt. Huge difference. And once again, that is his opinion on how to deal with pain and suffering…nothing more. And furthermore, is it a correct opinion?….well not necessarily, no…everyone is entitled to deal with pain and suffering however they see fit and I’m personally good with that.
Yeah, we just published “Sandman is History”
.. now changed to “Sandman is Down”
I’m going to go out on a limb here and figure that if you took the time to make a video promoting Sandman, you obviously found him of some worth in regards to the MGTOW movement. I listened to Sandman’s entire clip on Monks of MGTOW….was he out of line with a couple of the comments?…sure. But he is, like all men, entitled to his opinions. I’m guessing he didn’t quite think those things that he said through very well…but perhaps we should cut him some slack. At least until we see how/if he responds to the criticism.
I expected that thought and , yes, we promoted Sandman (even feature a handful of pertinent videos here) for being a trooper and everything we created was at the cost of our own time and expense. We never heard a single reply from him to any of our comments, for any of our efforts, or our work here. Last night at 5AM we shared it with him on Google+ and Twitter. We have never even received a word of reply from him, or thanks or gratitude for what we’ve done here. He is aware of our existence So we will just disregard him as unfeelingly as he disregarded us… even though we did FAR more to reach out .
The only thing we heard from a 3rd party was that he dislikes us intensely. God only knows why.
But we decided to be “the better man” anyway and made an ENORMOUS dedication to him.At least until we see how/if he responds to the criticism.
He didn’t respond to countless positive efforts from us.
So if he bothers to respond to criticism, then he’s a negative piece of s~~~.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.RULE 1 : Don’t call men cowards for going their own way.
+1
I’ve had to make hard decisions to GMOW, it’s not the “EASY” option, its the only SANE option. The “cowards” are the ones that give in to others expectations, and Fools gamble with their future, there is nothing “BRAVE” about divorce settlements, nor child maintenance.
When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
@Fadeaway There’s a difference between an opinion and an attack. This was an attack on men who want nothing to do with women because they have been put through the grinder. It’s misandry and he’s no different then any of these feminists out here. By labeling men cowards and describeing them as “wallowing in their own misery” is a bulls~~~ ad hominem attack towards men who live differently then he does and obviously suffer through pain he hasn’t experienced. That video is a giant crock of s~~~. I cannot believe it hasn’t been down voted into infinity and beyond yet. Sandman is a disgrace to mgtow’s across the spectrum. With all due respect, I just think I interpreted what Sandman was saying differently than the majority on this thread so far. I didn’t take it as an attack. I don’t think he was saying it was cowardly for men to want nothing to do with women who have hurt them…I took at as he was saying it was cowardly to wallow in self pity or pain after said hurt. Huge difference. And once again, that is his opinion on how to deal with pain and suffering…nothing more. And furthermore, is it a correct opinion?….well not necessarily, no…everyone is entitled to deal with pain and suffering however they see fit and I’m personally good with that.
You don’t have to say with all due respect. It’s just a healthy debate between two gentlemen. Didn’t mean to come off as hostile if I did it’s just that this s~~~ obviously p~~~es me off. I see where you are coming from. But when I put myself into the shoes of those men, it would be a tough reality to handle because your life will never be the same. You know? You have a right to be angry and hurt and for a lot of these men it’s a scar that won’t heal. That feeling of loss isn’t easy to cope with. And on top of that, you realize the dream society sold you is a lie. That is a lot of s~~~ to deal with. All those years of social conditioning coming back to destroy you.
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Wow. I had to watch the original sandman video to believe that he was not just quoting someone else. I guess that he has returned to the plantation, so much so that he has to call his brothers cowardly. (shaming – which is a bitch move)
MGTOW is about going your own way, so he is entitled to his own opinion, but to shame other brothers for choosing their own path smacks of female influence. He is buying the pussy with his new tack. Too bad he has to shame us to do it. Quite spineless since being doxxed or self doxxed.
F~~~ him. I unsubscribed, that’s voting with my feet. Brothers, you do what you judge is best.
@Automat6on – If it is ok to shame a group of great men and just call it your opinion, then my opinion is that you are a f~~~tard for not understanding that shaming is a personal attack. (fact – not opinion). Also, please f~~~ off. Reacting to a personal attack is fun. And I am all about the fun.
BVC
PS If I want to get laid, I will. If I want to not get laid, I will not. Cowardice does not come into it. Doing a 180 on your subscribers is cowardice, not therapeutic progress. Dick move, brother sandman. You know it.
Thanks for listening, and Cheers.
Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.
RULE 1 : Don’t call men cowards for going their own way.
+1 I’ve had to make hard decisions to GMOW, it’s not the “EASY” option, its the only SANE option. The “cowards” are the ones that give in to others expectations, and Fools gamble with their future, there is nothing “BRAVE” about divorce settlements, nor child maintenance.
There ain’t nothing brave about being disposable. MGTOW isn’t an easy option, you gotta fight so much social conditioning (if your young like me and never married). You gotta hear your friends talk about their future and getting married and you try to help but for them they can’t see an alternative regardless of how horrible the consequences are. I wouldn’t wish what some of the men who have touched the flame have been through on my worst enemy. Your gonna see your friends live “the dream” while you sit there and honesty hope to god that they don’t suffer the same fate.
The next generation of MGTOW
The more I think about it, I don’t shame blue pill guys in relationships, if that’s what they want then fine, I was there once, I understand, I just warn the ones that will listen and watch the inevitable time bomb. If I wanted to get into a relationship, I wouldn’t shame all guys that were MGTOW, it smacks of insecurity, to have to prove that you’ve changed by distancing yourself from your prior beliefs by shaming.
With sandman it seems all about attention seeking, otherwise he seems extremely unstable, how can anyone that’s administered daily doses of Red Pills, turn around and attack their own core beliefs?
When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
I vote that we rename Sandman, Flapjack or Flounder. All in favor, give me an “aye”.
BVC
Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.
MGTOW is a community of men – and the only community in the western world – where a MGTOW will have complete trust that he will be fully understood and never accused of being cowardly for making the sensible choice of opting out. Call him an asshole. Call him a jerk. He will love you for it. But imply that he’s a coward, and you must be high on your own supply. The military will also do it. Women will do it. Your friends and family will do it too. But when you turn on youtube and see another man claiming to be “MGTOW” lecturing you on how “cowardly” you are, you may as well just get a wife, commit financial suicide on the spot, and it forbids Sandman from wearing a MGTOW badge.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.- AuthorPosts
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