THE KM is a liar

[Anonymous 38]

Gargamel wrote:

MGTaoist wrote:

I’m tired of you whining about trolls winning.

I was never “whining” only reporting and analyzing.
BTW I was the first one NOT bowing down to OldBill and his power trip.
And I know how much “sympathy” among his puppets this had cost me.
And I don’t give a s~~~ since I do not NEED MGTOW to “help me”.
I have no “own” problems to “whine” about. Only a back catalog of real life experience to report and analyze.

MGTaoist wrote:

Make a choice Gargamel, you’re becoming tiresome.

Yes, I was waiting for that to be posted.
You nailed it. My article size posts really do become tiresome for the local audience and it is better for the forums to replace them with 140 character one-liners.
I have a history of “persuading beaten down and wanting to leave” members to stay here…
While in the same threads the
– “good riddance”
– “don’t let the door hit your whatever on your way out”
– “don’t forget your whatever on the way out”
– “stop whining and wasting our time”
and other “get out so we can move on” types of replies prevail.
This is not a brotherhood.
Well you invest years of your time, and when you need any support or have any issue with whatever you are cancelled and thrown out with just one word. Click and you are gone. You no longer “fit into the scheme of things”…
That’s the same way you get abandoned by some c~~~.
Guys wanting to leave this forum because of “whatever” are always treated with the “boot” tool and that’s what we actually learned from our feminist mothers. No attempt is made to keep him here.
LOL.
Discussion or comforting is replaced by “get lost, we don’t need you anymore” aka “we don’t give a s~~~ about you anymore” mentality.
It’s like feeling and tasting the hate in the air some of us (a significant part of us) have for most fellow men.
And some men (with inner values) watch this and say “What am I still doing here?”
And I made my choice.
Posts like yours make it much easier.
Maybe I have said all there is to be said and it’s time to clear the way for the newcomers.
Since I sense a strong sentiment in favor of “the purge”…
I think it is really time to move on and follow the advice of one of my favorite success trainers:
“Do not bang on doors that won’t open, see if the next door will open all by itself… Go where they like you” (Brian Tracy)
BTW: That’s why women took over the world. They have that “own group preference” that we do not have.
Men will always be weak because they can’t form a brotherhood.

Endless emoting. I love your longer detailed posts and I hope you stay and carry on contributing. But you are acting the victim here. It’s not good riddance. I’d be sad to see you leave. But you need to get over what’s happened. It’s becoming a real drag. Accept and move on.

[Joey AlfioParticipant]

I think it’s time to transfer pete to a nursing home he’s truly lost it.

Δεν υπάρχει τίποτε αδύνατο γι’ αυτόν που θα προσπαθήσει. - Μέγας Αλέξανδρος

[The man in the mountainParticipant 4102]

Adding ads and a currency system to the site sounds like the type of idea that would make other men angry, because usually most men are too stupid to think of starting a business off of a site.

It happens a lot actually, you plan to start a business with friends (who are male) then they start the backstabbing and drama because they never get enough of what they “though” they should’ve been getting to begin with, its a cycle that destroys most businesses, That’s why you buy out anyone you are co-owning with and because people get angry when you want to make some coin off of them, but when you go outside there’s always a business out there for something you need and even when it comes to bottling water for example, many will claim putting water in a bottle should be free, but someone is getting payed either way off of this.

KM turning the site into a business is NOT a bad idea because a site like this comes with domain costs and the cost of hiring an IT guy to fix problems or coding sections from time to time.

[Anonymous 1]

The man in the mountain wrote:

KM turning the site into a business is NOT a bad idea because a site like this comes with domain costs and the cost of hiring an IT guy to fix problems or coding sections from time to time.

Anything beyond funding the site is profiting off the back of men’s downfall.

I do trust that isn’t the case.

There are noo excuses for that.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

The idea & response as outlined ( on PAGE 5 of this thread ) was to break it down for Pete — and even Grue) who was totally convinced that I was not even posting as myself. This is a form of madness. I find “projection” totally infuriating when people try that tactic. They imagine whatever – without limits – and then expect you to jump through hoops to explain it away.

It’s womanly.

The “community rewards token” is no different than you giving me a +1 for this post…. or ME rewarding YOU with a +1 c~~~s punted point because you booted a female troll. But this place doesn’t exist for that. It exists for GREATER than that.

A restaurant isn’t a “great restaurant” just because it *doesn’t have rats or c~~~roaches*.

Once I was able to explain that I was present in a zoom chat with them – that I can talk about what actually was spoken about and transpired in detail as outlined…. now I’m afraid Grue will also be forced to accept that I am genuine.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 12]

Take “it” out the back and shoot it in de head.

[Heave-Ho MgtowParticipant 1797]

Ok, trying to add something ….
I haven’t seen this much drama since I quit dating women
Glad the sites back up. I miss stealthy

skip the cavernous vag and go your own way

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

OK, I believe what KM is saying, but can we be SURE that he is NOT part of the CIA ??? LOL LOL LOL I’m just joking !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Awakened wrote:

but can we be SURE that he is NOT part of the CIA LOL LOL LOL I’m just joking !!

Actually, I think that would be kinda cool. Just to be able to say it. “I work for the CIA”. LOL2

I have said that to women before when they ask “so where do you work?”

“I work for the CIA. Counter Intelligence.”.

“OMG what’s so intelligent about a counter?”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 0]

Gravel Pit wrote:

We are a brotherhood on this site. Many of us are very mature and will not be leaving, like that M52 guys said. He rides a two-wheeler too. Its funny that many of us that ride, get it. We aren’t leaving. This website is too f~~~ing cool to leave.

Humm….Correction.
I ride a trike these days. A 990 CanAm Spyder
Since the stroke I have balance issues.
Well to be honest I was tired of putting my foot down in a hole anyway.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Are site politics really a thing?

I always loved that Men could speak the truth here.

People are programmed to ignore the truth if it does not
confirm what they believe..

If the truth creates cognitive dissonance they refuse to toss out what contradicts
the truth. It is better for them to ignore the truth because it is less painful believing
they cannot change what bothers them, than accepting that they are not taking any steps to change themselves.

My truth is lead me to a new level of liberty.
Notice I get few if any replies on my post.
Ignoring my truth will not change its effectiveness.
It is working for Me!

Society wants you so busy working, that having time for thinking logically and reasonably is not
possible. You are working to make someone else’s American dream come true..

They are seriously saying to themselves screw the dreams of those who work for me their needs are not my problem.

selfishness is a dominant Human trait. It is a trait non existent in Men.

If you believe you know an evil selfish man, you are mistaken he is nothing but a single spirited
selfish adult male human being!

If this sounds like more shaming language ask yourself if you feel ashamed.

If you disagree with me, then you are too selfish to allow someone their own beliefs unless they line up with
yours..

Your truth is what you say it is Unless I provide evidence otherwise.

I would never take your truth away.

If you agree with me you probably know the truth personally.

These truths have become self evident..

My father said I should never challenge a man’s truth without evidence to the contrary.

Love and respect to all

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

But if there ever is a call for forum monitoring… i would read that call a few times and probably volunteer.

Thank you.

There will be. Have already exchanged with others who raised their hands about this. And it is actually feasible. It would require a strict set of “guidelines” ONLY to avoid power-tripping or arbitrary deletion of anyone (or any post ). And what we want to avoid is a “tattle tale” atmosphere.

I am still a firm believer in letting all members moderate themselves. Most of the time, it works! But not while joining is wide open and members are made participants automatically. That process of becoming a participant needs a little more automation without requiring a human door man. That is sucker of time.

Damn near everyone present now are PERFECT moderators of themselves – and the waters are peaceful. For that, I am grateful.

And it is ideal – without having to run a tight ship or crack the whip when s~~~ gets out of hand. But some members with moderator capabilities is feasible. We’ll just introduce one or two and see how it runs. Then perhaps more.

An example of where its NOT a good idea….

… is in this thread itself. “The KM is a liar”. Or even the very sarcastic thread about new changes on the website that are apparently not visible to the OP.

I wouldn’t want that to be removed or “moderated”. I would face it head on and/or leave it. Because leaving it – and NOT responding it – is also effective makes the OP look foolish. The first instinct of a moderator might be to take another stance, or even take it down or delete some posts. We are VERY apprehensive about removing anything from the forums. We definitely don’t want to “control the dialogue”.

( I don’t even like using the word “we” – but I’m referring to “the website in the aggregate” )

More on this later of course.

Anonymous wrote:

I ride a trike these days. A 990 CanAm Spyder
Since the stroke I have balance issues.

I’d like to take a second to show appreciation to M52 for being here and for your gracious previous comment. I am VERY happy to see you again.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 1]

Keymaster wrote:

Get it now? It’s not a “plot”. It’s f~~~ing brilliant.
Have we created the mechanisms yet? No.

That is a brilliant idea. Ethereum is the Future. Can’t wait for the new MG-Token feature. Sounds really cool.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

KM wrote:
And it is ideal – without having to run a tight ship or crack the whip when s~~~ gets out of hand. But some members with moderator capabilities is feasible. We’ll just introduce one or two and see how it runs. Then perhaps more.

Excellent idea. Its my belief that the word Anarchy has gotten a bad wrap by modern interpretation.
The lack of a governing body or moderation in this case, does not require that the site will become
chaotic and fall apart.

The best Governance is a government that governs the least..

I love that authority exist, but would rather they wait until I ask
for assistance rather than force it on me and charge me for the assistance.

The traffic ticket is a prime example of this public dis-service dynamic.
They are giving you an unconstitutional writ of assistance, when It was them who
signaled that they have an emergency and needed some assistance.
The result is not you being protected and served.

The result is you being deceived and serviced.

Become the vendor when these situations arise,
always tell the officer you stopped because he signaled
that he had an emergency.

This does not allow him to ask this leading question:
“DO YOU KNOW WHY I PULLED YOU OVER?”

You have already told him why you pulled over of your own accord.

If he goes down that same line after please remind him that
he does not have remote control of your automobile and could
not have possibly pulled it over..

I even carry a contract and an invoice for the officer to sign.
I am contracting my skills services and time of life to this
police officer as his hired driver. He insist that is my occupation
even after I tell him I am a private traveler.
I insist that I can provide evidence in court that his case depends
on me contracting with him to be his driver.(not anyone elses but his)
I will also insist that driving is a Licensed, privileged
compensated occupation for hire.. No compensation no contract.
He has to hire me to regulate me..
My compensation is always more than they wish to pay.

My fine for trespassing against my private person is $19.95
leaving them with no right to sue me and demand a trial.
The receipt will ask if they would like to donate the nickle (change for $20 bill)
to my ministry.

read the constitution close. You have the right to trial by jury on any amount above $20.

This was written into law when $20 was considered a lot of money to come up with..

Now $20 is a laughable amount. Unless you can collect it every-time you are pulled over,
while traveling in an unregistered automobile.. HA! HA! HA!

My thoughts and prayers are with you and yours.

Love and respect to all

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

harpo-my-“SON” wrote:

The lack of a governing body or moderation in this case, does not require that the site will become
chaotic and fall apart. The best Governance is a government that governs the least..

Very well put. And thank you for making the point.

Isn’t “not being governed” the entire point of MGTOW? (rhetorical question).
Men can govern themselves.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[G.O.A.TParticipant 1459]

Huh, there’s really no difference between men, and women.

Pete, F~~~ OFF.

Money is God.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

I gave my word I would be quiet about what I was told. But if what I was told was true, you would think twice about shaking hands with these so called men.
The reason why Pete mentions Portland has to do with the fact that these SUPER SNOOPS “FOUND” out that I live in Portland, and think Keymaster:

1. Has kids
2. Is and Indian guy.
3. Lives in his Minivan.
4. DRIVES a MINIVAN.

And from a user that emailed me :

“I want you to know that if you got run over by a bus, I’d feel karma has dished it’s course.. You deserve nothing you absolute piece of s~~~.” – Username and Identity WITHHELD.

I still have people emailing me asking me if I am the Keymaster. Does anyone understand that I am not going to f~~~ you, and this is not Ghost busters and I don’t f~~~ on the first date?
GOD DAMN. I thought I had problems. We really DO have the INCELL Army here. I thought that s~~~ was a JOKE.

You guys should know the difference.

The Oddest thing is, you men at one time came here and keep complaining about your lives, but you have no problem working together trying to ruin another’s? Well. Good luck!

And I have a theory why you are so mad.

Oh the BUTT HURT if it was true. LOL! HAHAHA

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[bladeParticipant]

I don’t think the problem is having moderators . I think we have all done well on self moderating .

I think there is a lesson learned as mgtow grows and evolves . Like discussing site politics and individuals .

I HAVE ONE QUESTION . If the upset is with KM then why try and bring down this site ? This site that helped many of us , laugh again , learn new ways etc .

The tuna hunting . No one use to bother then all of a sudden everyone wanted to be a tuna hunter . So i stopped checking just joined and the other s~~~ .

I could see what was going to happen on the other site . I called that one . Lol . Bartlett .

But that doesn’t reflect everyone that went there . I think some guys have just taken s~~~ to seriously . I still like them , like this is to trivial to not like somebody .

Be individuals . We can all get swept up in the moment . We can all make mistakes .

I have learned many things and mgtow changed and saved my life . I was given many chances when i joined . I was given a number of chances . My behavior at that time was f~~~ed and so was i when i arrived here . Thanks to km for giving me a go . Thanks to so many men also in the mgtow community .

I hope we don’t end up needing moderators but if it came to it i would put my hand up . I have free time i am retired . On here pretty much along with getting my game on ps4. Lol . Upgraded my internet way before i got the ps4 so i could be hooked up on here . Always got my phone in my pocket .

LETS JUST ALL MAKE PEACE SO WE DON’T HAVE MOTHERF~~~IN WAR . ( humor)

Yep . Thats now how i am going to treat this . LAUGHTER AND HUMOR . I like every c~~~ .

Galactic empire .

Mgtow hq

I bags the riddick ship , i got the ice planet look happening and will be soon sporting a f~~~ed up face . Lol .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[KeymasterKeymaster]

iMickey503 wrote:

The reason why Pete mentions Portland has to do with the fact that these SUPER SNOOPS “FOUND” out that I live in Portland, and think Keymaster
1. Has kids
2. Is and Indian guy.
3. Lives in his Minivan.
4. DRIVES a MINIVAN.

Really?

1. I have no kids – of which I am aware.
(what man knows for sure?)

2. I’m white.

3/4. I have spoken about my car(s) here before. One is nearly 40 years old collectable classic. The other is a 2011 semi-collectible. Both stick. I wouldn’t drive a mini-van or be caught looking at one.

—

You see? This is the madness I spoke about earlier. A refusal to ask the question first. He didn’t ASK in order to KNOW. They just “think” – without thinking. I even mentioned in at least one zoom chat where I live. And then the snide, know-it-all question: “should I visit you in Portland” becomes totally moronic. More importantly, what f~~~ing difference does it make what color I am, where I live or what I drive? These are the stupid details women preoccupy themselves with.

Are they supposed to say something about a man?
Jesus Christ. It’s so goddam childish.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[bladeParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

have spoken about my car(s) here before.

MUSTANG 69 FAST BACK if i remember was your favorite , i know you mentioned a mustang . Think you mentioned been a kid and having a hot wheels one . Lol .

My mind is f~~~ed in some ways but good in others , i think . Lol

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

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