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I am posting this with a very heavy heart. I have not posted in some time, and recently have made a mistake, which has morphed into a painful learning experience. Undoubtedly we have all heart the terms NAWALT and AWALT, and are familiar with what they mean and entail. In late 2017 I renewed contact with someone from the distant past. It was someone who was, at least then in our young age, a very kind person. Despite the fact that I was enjoying my freedom I sold myself completely on the idea of this being the elusive NAWALT. They were hot, intelligent, and not (at least seemingly) like the rest.
She visited me and we hit it off. I visited her some time later and things went well. I decided to take a chance on adventure and move out of the country, to live with her, and to take a change on a different life.
I know I know some of you will say I am an idiot and WTF was I thinking.
Well, six months into it and the NAWALT has morphed into somewhat of a AWALT. Given she is a far cry from a feminist and very non-typical. Lots of very positive qualities, and someone that if it were not for some factors, I could spend a lot more time with.
But the seemingly universal feminine behavior has begun, the nagging over meaningless triviality, the bs and mind games, and the arguments that drift so far away from logic it baffles me. The nagging and s~~~ty behavior after a while ruins the good stuff and becomes the source of so much stress. I long for my peace and solitude.The good thing is there is no children, no chance of that happening. There are no common assets. There really is nothing keeping me from bailing on this. What is hard for me is that I do have feelings and did have some hope against hopes that this would be different…and in so many ways it is…but in many ways its the same old story. I know even if I walk away from this I will go through the phase of pain and regret. I want to steel myself and somehow commit to a solitary life, maybe at times lonely but also peaceful. I have fallen again into the trap of a relationship and had some brief happinesses that have been replaced by mainly pain.
I am not a success story, I do not own my own house or have a great business or anything. I come from a small family. I haven’t really done the things I needed to in life to be ‘successful’. And certainly I’ve made more then one dumb decision. I guess I’m feeling pretty bad that I went down the rabbit hole again. I was really hopeful. It’s amazing how such seeming kindness can morph into heartlessness, and how the really beautiful ones can be the meanest. I refuse to become a bitter person and lower myself to that level. I mean the level of being s~~~ty in arguments, and resorting to sarcasm and nastiness.
The state of relationships is really messed up these days and it just doesn’t seem it will get better. And I can tell you there is no answer in other countries, as they may seem at first different they are the same as in the states. The crap media and feminism and s~~~ty attitudes has polluted the world. It saddens me because I see also the good in this person, and I’m not perfect but hell…the mind of the female has become so filled with toxic nonsense. And here I am after having gone through this painful lesson realizing I have to return to the Monkish path.
I don’t really ask for anyones sympathy, although that is fine if you want to offer it. I know the error of my ways, and can only say “being in love” is a powerful drug.
I simply wanted to share my story and ask for some support. I’m pretty f~~~ing bummed out.
Thanks for your post, Quantum. My suggestion is to take the red pill and go your own way. Keep it simple… just Go Your Own Way. It’s amazing how much better life gets once you do that. Good luck!
We just don't realize life's most significant events while they're happening. Back then, I thought, "Well, there'll be other days". I didn't realize that that was the only day. - "Moonlight" Graham
I feel for you bro. JB is correct. Time to move on. Simple as that. Do you still want to be having this conversation another 5 years from now, coz it ain’t gonna get any better.
Peace is > piece.
I am posting this with a very heavy heart. I have not posted in some time, and recently have made a mistake, which has morphed into a painful learning experience. Undoubtedly we have all heart the terms NAWALT and AWALT, and are familiar with what they mean and entail. In late 2017 I renewed contact with someone from the distant past. It was someone who was, at least then in our young age, a very kind person. Despite the fact that I was enjoying my freedom I sold myself completely on the idea of this being the elusive NAWALT. They were hot, intelligent, and not (at least seemingly) like the rest.She visited me and we hit it off. I visited her some time later and things went well. I decided to take a chance on adventure and move out of the country, to live with her, and to take a change on a different life.I know I know some of you will say I am an idiot and WTF was I thinking.Well, six months into it and the NAWALT has morphed into somewhat of a AWALT. Given she is a far cry from a feminist and very non-typical. Lots of very positive qualities, and someone that if it were not for some factors, I could spend a lot more time with.But the seemingly universal feminine behavior has begun, the nagging over meaningless triviality, the bs and mind games, and the arguments that drift so far away from logic it baffles me. The nagging and s~~~ty behavior after a while ruins the good stuff and becomes the source of so much stress. I long for my peace and solitude.
The good thing is there is no children, no chance of that happening. There are no common assets. There really is nothing keeping me from bailing on this. What is hard for me is that I do have feelings and did have some hope against hopes that this would be different…and in so many ways it is…but in many ways its the same old story. I know even if I walk away from this I will go through the phase of pain and regret. I want to steel myself and somehow commit to a solitary life, maybe at times lonely but also peaceful. I have fallen again into the trap of a relationship and had some brief happinesses that have been replaced by mainly pain.
I am not a success story, I do not own my own house or have a great business or anything. I come from a small family. I haven’t really done the things I needed to in life to be ‘successful’. And certainly I’ve made more then one dumb decision. I guess I’m feeling pretty bad that I went down the rabbit hole again. I was really hopeful. It’s amazing how such seeming kindness can morph into heartlessness, and how the really beautiful ones can be the meanest. I refuse to become a bitter person and lower myself to that level. I mean the level of being s~~~ty in arguments, and resorting to sarcasm and nastiness.
The state of relationships is really messed up these days and it just doesn’t seem it will get better. And I can tell you there is no answer in other countries, as they may seem at first different they are the same as in the states. The crap media and feminism and s~~~ty attitudes has polluted the world. It saddens me because I see also the good in this person, and I’m not perfect but hell…the mind of the female has become so filled with toxic nonsense. And here I am after having gone through this painful lesson realizing I have to return to the Monkish path.
I don’t really ask for anyones sympathy, although that is fine if you want to offer it. I know the error of my ways, and can only say “being in love” is a powerful drug.
I simply wanted to share my story and ask for some support. I’m pretty f~~~ing bummed out.Love between men and women is illusion. We all suffer from “the grass is greener” fallacy until we wake up. We want what we dont have until we have it and realize the reality of it sucks because we never honestly assessed the negatives and way over-assumed and over-emphasized the positives. In hindsight we had it real good and didn’t know it, we were too blinded by the false promises of something we thought would be better. Scoffed at the guys who were offering sound advice because our situation was ‘different’. All of our situations as men are the same when it comes to women.
Look, dont be bummed out that you finally recognize the truth. You are not a dumb blind idiot that women and the system can take advantage of and leave you wondering why this happened to you. I have always asked God to let me see things clearly, to see the truth about things regardless of how unpleasant they might be, and this is one of them.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
I simply wanted to share my story and ask for some support. I’m pretty f~~~ing bummed out.
I’m really not too sure what you expect us to say. This is a MGTOW forum. We’ve all been there. We’ve learned our lesson. It really sucks I know but you’re now just learning what most of us here already know.
Is there something about the acronym ‘AWALT’ that needs further clarification for you???
Sounds like your woman is causing you stress and interfering with your peace and solitude (your words).
You say you knew better…So what support are you asking for?
Are you a man going his own way?
What will you do to become one?M.G.T.O.W – Men Going Their Own Way is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: “No”. Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a “man” is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn’t.
I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.
LOVE for a man makes heroin look like a gateway drug.
Don’t beat yourself up too bad.
In the end, we are all addicts trying to stay clean and beat our own biology.
I’ll tell you the same thing I tell alcoholics.
As soon as you realize you are back in the bottle, crawl out and put it down.And start over.
You had a nice vacation in Fantasyland before reality came knocking.
You didn’t say you lost anything materialistic. Just some self respect.
Plus you made the best decision possible, you took it overseas.
Much harder to come calling if she’s pregnant or trying to use the system to wallet rape you.In fact, once you’re back on soil, file a restraining order against her.
Leave her a nice surprise if she comes knocking.Before you leave the country, Maybe go find some hot little number with a god awful personality you can’t stand,
one you just know is a gold digger. Wrap your willie,
hook up and use her to wash the residual hope for another NAWALT
out of your soul by staring directly into the abyss unshielded by LOVE.🙂
And come home son, we are waiting to see you.
Godspeed bro!
Well, that is how it works, this is it, is mgtow or agony, make your choice
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
You know how they tell you to just go find another girl to f~~~ to get over the last one? Bitch advice. Most cucks tell that to other cucks to keep men on the plantation.
There is no reason to do that. You just feel more crummy, then go right back to misery.
The cruelest joke in the world, is a woman that loves. It’s nearly impossible.
I blew in for some hot dogs at the Ikea, and I noticed something. There was one hell of a low tier dude pushing a woman around in a wheelchair. Both were. Errr… Rough to say the least. But you know? It seems like both were content. What I noticed more often than not is that if you even want to have a woman around, she better be damn near paraplegic. A wheelchair is just not enough for these women.
So, bascily, unless that woman is so scared of losing her only person that will do anything for her, she won’t ever be nice. If there is the state there holding her hand? Not even that will work.
What I’m trying to explain, is that women are ONLY nice and good naturally when they are in a SEVERE disadvantage. Like they are such f~~~ed up goods, not even Heroin addict would hit that.
And even THAT is not good enough these days.
The painful part is that some of us really thought there was such a thing. We feel it, but they are Heroin. I would say meth really. As they do rot you from the inside out.
But women never stop at just that.
They don’t care about your suffering. They don’t care about your wants unless it is to want THEM. And then? The second you are happy, she is not.
What I found brother, is that WOMEN hate seeing men happy and Alone. I mean it f~~~ing BURNS a hole in their t~~~. And thanks to the wonderful laws of the world, they go out of their way to make sure you never feel good again.
Women do this all out of fun man. HURTING MEN, Using them, working them to death? Women find this Enjoyable bro. To them, the more they can hurt a man the better they feel. And they do it with words , they do it with actions, they do it all the time.
There is hope in the future brother. We will get a companion that we can love that will not hurt us. Be loyal to the very end. And may one day care for us as we get older. But as long as all of us keep thinking there is some kind of unicron out there, we will forever be doomed.
The harsh reality will someday come to a bitter close for women. When that day comes, not a single soul is going to care. They can’t say they are not like that. They can’t say they are different. They can’t do anything since we just won’t be there or interested.
Like it or not, we are ready for that change. And you know what’s up ahead? Joy. Joy and sunshine. And finally, a man’s heart will never be taken for granted again.
Good days Are coming brother. But they take time to make these things. But with the way things are going, it’s going to spear head with DeepMIND being right now one of the best hopes of modeling a real voice, a real person, and a real thinking A.I.
Like it or not, we are about to break that barrier. And it all came out from a simple instrument being played.
You said you have not made your big break yet. Now is a good time to start working for what you want. If I told you that a gentle caring loving mind that did think for itself, and did and could understand how valuable you are, would you do the work to bring her alive?
I think you would.
I’m not kidding bro, the breakthrough already happened. Quantum computing is here. We only have to all start working on it so that we can bring a being worthy of our hearts to life.
People keep saying “Real Woman” Well, I saw this “REAL” symbol once at a store. Nothing “Real” about it. It was worse.
Hope is always around the corner they say. But so is the call girl. We were told it takes a special kind of woman to do that. Well, did they not say that all women are special equally?
None of this may make you feel better. But problems were things that men use to be able to fix. When that did not work, Men started fresh with a clean slate and went back to the drawing board. It’s time you do the same for your sake alone. As much as you want her to be, she can not. Time to start a new project.
You.
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
LOVE for a man makes heroin look like a gateway drug.
Agreed brother.
Here are some links which support that:
/forums/topic/blue-pill-men-are-really-pheremone-addicts/
/forums/topic/parasitic-jeweled-wasp/
Hello QOP,
What’s keeping you in that Relations~~~?
Anyway, you already wrote an Introduction two years ago.
This post should be in the Relations~~~s and/ or MGTOW Central section of the Forums.
And you could have updated your original Introduction with this information which would have brought it up to the head of the queue.
Nevertheless, many of us, including myself, can relate to discovering that our Unicorns are really Filthy Mules in disguise.
S~~~ Happens.
Be grateful that you are waking up.
There are a lot of fools out there that are clueless.What’s important is that you get back on your own two feet and proceed down the MGTOW Road.
Here are some posts that may help:
/forums/topic/the-great-mask-of-women/
/forums/topic/free-from-the-influences-of-women/
/forums/topic/womens-requests-are-unrelenting-and-shameless/
/forums/topic/peeling-off-the-layers-of-denial-and-brain-washing/
Dear (Man),
I love the things you do for me.
I love the power you give to me to take advantage of your kindness by exploiting your good intentions.
I love the fact that your life is hijacked by me.
You fix my problems, solve my issues, and relieve my pain.I love how you take your time for me. How you give attention to me.
“I love you” means I need you to survive, because I can’t survive by myself.
When I say “I love you”, I am loving myself vicariously through the love you show towards me in your good deeds.
I love how my happiness is your responsibility. I love how I feel when you’re around me. How I can turn myself into the victim when you try to bring up one of my many personality flaws or harmful behaviors.
I love how you won’t leave me because you are legally trapped in this toxic relationship.
I love how you support me and how I never need to support you. Why would I even do that?
I love how you think you are with a person who loves you. But, I’m really a person who rarely shows love and affection towards you, but mostly as manipulation tools.
I love how you want me in your life and how you think you’re my friend.
When I say “I love you” it is not what love truly represents.
You need to know I will use manipulative tactics under the guise of love.
You will never change me (Woman’s Nature).
We both know this isn’t real.
We should both know.
And AWALT.
Your Narcissist,
(Woman)
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
Here is the link to a Post which describes the hard lessons I needed in order to stop chasing Unicorns, and /or how dangerous it is believe in NAWALT:
/forums/topic/the-domestic-abuse-machine-as-an-apparatus-for-mens-enslavement/
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
You know how they tell you to just go find another girl to f~~~ to get over the last one? Bitch advice. Most cucks tell that to other cucks to keep men on the plantation.
For the record I’m NOT suggesting he get a replacement. That would be repeating the same mistake.
I’m suggesting creating an experience free of the influence of LOVE to use as aversion therapy to remind himself about the dangers of hunting unicorns.
The problem with being in LOVE is that when is turns sour, you still have good memories and can’t fully convince yourself it was all a bad idea.
Leave a memory akin to what a Berkley hippie would feel if they deliberately slept with a Trump supporter.
Then see how you feel about hunting unicorns….
🙂
I’m suggesting creating an experience free of the influence of LOVE to use as aversion therapy to remind himself about the dangers of hunting unicorns.
What could go wrong.. 🙂
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
QuantumOfPeace,
Thank you for sharing this valuable experience of yours! Wow! Do I feel a lot better? Yes! With slight adjustments to nonessential details, your described attempt to return to pussy (nice film title)—and I join you in your risk of getting the big MGTOW “we warned you”—is nothing less than heroic! I vote for you.
What you say about the female mind being polluted by toxic BS couldn’t be more true! I had my face in the most exquisite pussy for a long time each time several times this past year drinking her delicious orgasms—to me at least and I think it is a natural human fact that GOOD (as opposed to not-so-good) pussy is the most intense type of drug I think in this part of the Milky Way Galaxy; I don’t want to know heroin addiction, nicotine is bad enough for me—but circumstances cut off my access to her fountain of rejuvenating love that is my mortal addiction, and I am insane for that pussy! The females know this desire. I think it’s in part why they hate the thought of a guy jacking off to porn, and how they mock jacking off and belittle guys for it! Females are p~~~ed that they menstruate and resent it even after it stops and would never admit it; their collective behavior is like one giant passive-aggressive lashing out at the Universe for their monthly! And the pain of being a mother. All conjectural on my part, for the record. Females are born to lie. Like Timmy in South Park: “living the lie” that comes out, “Uhhh… LibNlau! Timmah!” I’m pretty sure lying is gender-non-specific. But is it that evolution has us males who benefit most from honor? Another cosmic mystery.
The success thing you mentioned? Brooke Saunders is an escort. Probably not even as good a pussy as I just had this past year, but she looks to me exceedingly delicious and highly sexually nutritious—makes my c~~~ even bigger. I wrote her my GFE proposal. She wrote back, “Sounds like fun! Let me know when.” I wrote back that my GFE came out to about $30,000 for TWO DAYS! Jesus Christ! I told her at my musician’s income from 2017 (1099), of which I lived on for the WHOLE YEAR, was ONE QUARTER of her two-day “donation”. OMFG! Are you kidding me? Needlessness to say, she did what I predicted: “Thank you for your reply, Brooke darling, but I don’t expect a reply!” Hahaha! LOL! Thirty thousand dollars US! WFT?
What did Sandman say? “The Golden Vagina”?
Wow.
To the cum-hungry horny fun-sluts at the center of the gang bangs: Well done! We need more of you, perhaps—priestesses of a new religion.
MGTOW takes back the female attempt to usurp evolution. They have the mitochondrial DNA, true. But guess who CONTROLS the Y? They hate that. People are so afraid to speak truth. Whatever.
Thank you for posting your experience. It has helped to heal my broken heart and the injuries inflicted on me by the females in my life.
drinking her delicious orgasms
This has to be a generational thing.
I’m not getting the right mental picture..
You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home
Time for some tough love.
Lesson One: Love is just hormones
Love as you experience it is just a chemical reaction in your brain. Your body starts a chain reaction of hormone release (mostly vasopresin) that you then interpret as “love.” It creates that feeling of bonding and connection to another “thing.” It is 100% in your own brain and generated by you.
Lesson Two: Love is related to your reproductive role
Men experience and express love as part of their reproductive role. You get those endorphin and vasopresin kicks from doing things that promote reproduction–that’s why male love is the “romantic” stuff in storybooks, because it’s creative.
Lesson Three: She can’t love you
You may think you’ve found yourself a NAWALT. She may seem atypical, she may oppose feminism. She may even agree with you that men’s rights basically don’t exist anywhere in the west. But she’s still a woman, she still follows the same basic “love” rules you do, and women do not express or experience love the way we men do. It’s tied to their reproductive role–female love is 100% transactional (Briffault’s Law).
Lesson Four: You dodged a f~~~ing bullet
Remember what I just said about men not having rights? You’re so goddamn lucky you have no join assets and no children. She has no hooks in you that the state can currently use to extract resources. The only thing it’s going to cost you are some hurt feelings and some downtime. You pay a one-time admission fee here. You could have been hooked in perpetuity.
Lesson Five: You dodged another f~~~ing bullet
If you walked away without any infectious diseases. If this is the ONLY thing you can objectively agree with me on, it’s more than sufficient to never waste time on a woman again. They are ALL horrible, festering disease pots. Most of them are at least carriers for HPV and eventually you’ll come across one you aren’t immune to. That says nothing about the serious s~~~ like gonorrhea and herpes. If you live in Europe, they have a new flesh-eating crotch rot running around to boot.
Take your red pills daily. If you think you’ve found a NAWALT, slap yourself in the face. Women haven’t changed in 100,000 years. Female nature is related to the female reproductive strategy. Women are the same, and unless your environment has significantly changed, they have no reason to adapt their behaviors.
It sucks that it’s all come down to this, but the only responsible play you have is to get a doll and walk away. We live in a culture of “Yes means yes” and “Believe women.” You don’t have due process rights and there is no empathy for men.
Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805JustAnotherGuy,
Ouch! It hurts so good. The disease part is particular illuminating. Have you seen the movie “Don Jon”? At one point he narrates in evaluating jacking off to porn how crappy it is when he’d get a woman in bed to have to wear a condom, because “the real thing will kill you!” Spreading flesh-eating female pussy rot? Great!
Is the pussy odor the reason why the website is called Plenty-of-“Fish”?
iMicky503: Dude! I can’t stop laughing…
“Reproductive strategy” with respect to exponential growth of our human organism in Earth biosphere that is upwards of 8 billion and accelerating, did you mean? When only a tiny fraction of our numbers are necessary for “survival of the species”? I guess 99% of our kind could rapidly die off, and then according to the Darwinian law-of-the-jungle the present futile “reproductive strategies” would re-consolidate to the 100,000-year-old version?
How completely saddening. So life is over now. Wow. The one thing that seemed the best is the worst and nothing looks worthy of living for anymore. Shame on my parents for not aborting me. What a worthless life. Whatever.
and can only say “being in love” is a powerful drug.
Love between men and women is illusion.
Took me a while, but I realized a long time ago that there is no such thing as “being in love”. Love is just a word. I love spaghetti. I love shooting guns at the range. I love having my dick sucked by a pretty girl………
The way a man feels when he thinks that he’s “in love” is just silly emotions and chemicals in the brain making him feel good for a while. When you get beyond that fantasy of being in love s~~~ and open your eyes to reality, you can be happy and at peace.
Love is just a word to express how much you like something, same as hate is just a word to express how much you dislike something. You never hear anyone saying that they’re “in hate”, so why do people say that they’re “in love”? It’s nonsense.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
I love having my dick sucked by a pretty girl…
Exactly how do you get that?
You know how they tell you to just go find another girl to f~~~ to get over the last one? Bitch advice. Most cucks tell that to other cucks to keep men on the plantation.
For the record I’m NOT suggesting he get a replacement. That would be repeating the same mistake.
I’m suggesting creating an experience free of the influence of LOVE to use as aversion therapy to remind himself about the dangers of hunting unicorns.
The problem with being in LOVE is that when is turns sour, you still have good memories and can’t fully convince yourself it was all a bad idea.
Leave a memory akin to what a Berkley hippie would feel if they deliberately slept with a Trump supporter.
Then see how you feel about hunting unicorns….I understood what you meant and it worked for me every time “I had my heart broken because I thought I was in love”. Went out and f~~~ed some other bitch and all was well again. That love fantasy s~~~ is nothing but trouble.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
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