Temptation to Relapse.. How to deal with it?

[Gone GhostSpectator 222]

Not sure if anyone else has experienced this, but I would really appreciate some feedback from more experienced MGTOW on this subject:

So.. basically my life has done nothing but improve since I cut out dating and left traditional relationships behind me. I had a few relationships which were extreme roller coasters of ups and downs, some intense passion and some very sad or frustrating lows. I chose to walk away from each one of them, and I think it is important that I keep in mind why I chose to do so.

The weird thing is, lately I find myself craving the emotional volatility and unpredictability that those relationships brought me… it’s almost as if things are going so well now, that I’m craving a little pain or danger! I know this sounds bizarre , you must be thinking how the hell can someone want to feel pain.. but in a way those painful lows made the passionate highs so intense too.

I’m not sure if this is just an emotional reaction to years of society’s conditioning, or just a natural sense of loss regarding the relationships I walked away from? My logical brain tells me that I would be a fool to want anything other than the secure and productive life that I am forging for myself now… but my emotional brain is craving action, danger, passion and excitement ( depsite the fact I know these relationships caused me so much damage!? )

Not sure if any other MGTOW have experienced these temptations to relapse, and if so would be interested to hear about how you deal with them? I’m not sure if I have described my feelings too clearly, because in all honest they aren’t even that clear to me! lol

~ Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? ~

[The Batman 2020Participant 2112]

Genre: Informal
Female = 900
Male = 843
Difference = -57; 48.36%
Verdict: Weak FEMALE

Weak emphasis could indicate European.Gender Guesser

Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.

[Gone GhostSpectator 222]

I guess it’s almost like an act of self-sabotage… I read a theory once which said we all have an internal ‘thermostat’ which has a gauge of good and bad.

If our life becomes too good.. or too bad.. in relation to what we feel we deserve.. our subconscious mind finds ways to sabotage it. In other words, keeping us trapped in a lifestyle which fits the model that we ‘think we deserve’.

As my life starts to get so much better, and my skills and work going from strength to strength, I feel as if I am experiencing the upper threshold of this thermostat and starting to seek emotional ways to sabotage and return to my ‘comfort zone’ if you will.

I will try to keep in mind the words of this community which struck me so significantly upon joining : Never forget what brought you here.

I will try to heed these words and keeping moving away from the previous bad times and keep moving towards better times.

~ Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? ~

[Gone GhostSpectator 222]

Dude if you don’t have a mature response to my thread, just take the spam and criticism somewhere else. Thanks. I have only been going my own way for a year or so, and I am still learning and trying to improve my life.

~ Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? ~

[MACHOParticipant]

I recognize the pattern very well! What you are most likely going through is the fear of the unknown! Success when it finally shows up at our doorstep can be daunting, even a scary period to go through in our life and often we seek refuge in our emotional past seeking comfort!

I went through the exact same emotions when facing real first time solid success in my life! The way I dealt with it was to accept that feeling of weirdness as the new normal! Eventually it went away and I got to Love feeling like a winner almost everyday ! 🏆 😎

Gone Ghost wrote:

The weird thing is, lately I find myself craving the emotional volatility and unpredictability that those relationships brought me… it’s almost as if things are going so well now, that I’m craving a little pain or danger! I know this sounds bizarre , you must be thinking how the hell can someone want to feel pain.. but in a way those painful lows made the passionate highs so intense too.

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Anonymous 13]

A lifetime of lies and conditioning, programmed your whole life to believe things are a certain way.

When in reality it’s all a complete INVERSE.

That’s a lot of code to rewrite.

Take time, do hobbies, live wholesome and frugal.

Go easy on yourself.

[WallyParticipant]

Getting rid of the last remennts of the blue pill can be tough, we were feed a lie for so long it can take a long time for some to purge those wants.

Once you have fully digested the red pill and clearly understand women, could you go back to the blue pill? Nothing is there to stop you, but you will always know in the back of your mind everytime you look at your special snowflake that she does not love you. And she is a heartbeat away from destroying you.

My advice get busy with hobbies, get a dog and some friends if you are lonely.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[ApexScorpionParticipant 602]

You’re letting your feelings prevail over your logic. It’s feminine.

You seem confused and lost.

You remind me of those teenagers that do a fire challenge on social media, then continues to do it over and over for the thrill until you get burned beyond repair.

My suggestion to you is go get burned more since you are such a masochist.

Obviously those experiences weren’t enough for you.

Go get married and have a couple of kids, then read you post over.

[The Batman 2020Participant 2112]

Gone Ghost wrote:

I have only been going my own way for a year or so, and I am still learning and trying to improve my life.

Not long enough to pass the smell test, the Gender Guesser doesn’t lie, I ran a few of your posts.

Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.

[Gone GhostSpectator 222]

MACHO wrote:

Success when it finally shows up at our doorstep can be daunting, even a scary period to go through in our life and often we seek refuge in our emotional past seeking comfort!

That is exactly how it feels Macho! I have become so accustomed to dealing with emotional turmoil that it feels strange to have such a positive life! lol

~ Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? ~

[Gone GhostSpectator 222]

The Batman 2020 wrote:

Not long enough to pass the smell test, the Gender Guesser doesn’t lie, I ran a few of your posts.

Honestly, I think you’re full of s~~~ and I haven’t seen you contribute to anything I’ve said in a positive way on this forum.

~ Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? ~

[Gone GhostSpectator 222]

ApexScorpion wrote:

You remind me of those teenagers that do a fire challenge on social media, then continues to do it over and over for the thrill until you get burned beyond repair.

I would disagree with you on that. I haven’t done anything to burn myself again… instead I am using logic to prevent myself!

~ Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? ~

[MACHOParticipant]

Gone Ghost wrote:

Honestly, I think you’re full of s~~~ and I haven’t seen you contribute to anything I’ve said in a positive way on this forum.

This new member has real good stuff to share on here! I’m willing to bet that if he’s given the chance to speak he will be proven worthy of respect!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[The Batman 2020Participant 2112]

Oh you’re the no fapper, what a contribution I haven’t heard that idea before. Save it for the right girl, right?

Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.

[MACHOParticipant]

Gone Ghost wrote:

That is exactly how it feels Macho! I have become so accustomed to dealing with emotional turmoil that it feels strange to have such a positive life! lol

It feels alien like doesn’t it to become a winner 🏆 ?

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Gone GhostSpectator 222]

The Batman 2020 wrote:

Oh you’re the no fapper, what a contribution I haven’t heard that idea before. Save it for the right girl, right?

Bring it on. If you think a little sarcasm and trolling is going to push me out then you have another thing coming. I will continue to post my thoughts and feelings for those who are genuinely interested in engaging in mature convo.
Posting purely negative replies just makes you look like a weak hater in life.

~ Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? ~

[MACHOParticipant]

The Batman 2020 wrote:

Oh you’re the no fapper, what a contribution I haven’t heard that idea before. Save it for the right girl, right?

Batman no offense meant here but you are in the F~~~ing Wood! You have no idea what he’s talking about, Back the F~~~ off!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[MACHOParticipant]

Gone Ghost wrote:

Bring it on. If you think a little sarcasm and trolling is going to push me out then you have another thing coming. I will continue to post my thoughts and feelings for those who are genuinely interested in engaging in mature convo.
Posting purely negative replies just makes you look like a weak hater in life

What were you about to say my friend before Batman interrupted you?

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Gone GhostSpectator 222]

Let me set something straight here.. as a new member and a relatively new MGTOW of only 1 year.

In the first year or so of taking the Red Pill, I’m pretty sure many young men will be a little confused, and will have to fight to change their lives for the better. In my opinion this forum should be a place of encouragement and support to help them cross that line.

If new members are met with such sarcasm and suspicion for trying to express these feelings.. how many men do you think are going to give up on MGTOW , when they could have embraced it and gone on to live better lives?

I am happy to receive criticism and straight talking advice, but if you can’t find anything other than a sarcastic remark to make… don’t bother!

~ Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? ~

[Gone GhostSpectator 222]

MACHO wrote:

What were you about to say my friend before Batman interrupted you?

LOL. Thank you Macho.. maybe the thread can continue now!

Wally wrote:

Getting rid of the last remennts of the blue pill can be tough, we were feed a lie for so long it can take a long time for some to purge those wants.

Once you have fully digested the red pill and clearly understand women, could you go back to the blue pill?

This exactly how it feels Wally, and a great question to which I already know the answer! Hell No! lol It is good to hear this kind of reinforcement, thanks. I will try to focus on that question whenever in doubt.

~ Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? ~

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