Syria SitRep 9th April 2017

[It’sallbsParticipant]

It’s all one giant pyschological mind game Pistol that helps the few control the many.
Deep in your mind you still love to hate Russia and North Korea because they are the fictitious enemies they have built up in your mind during the cold war.
Whenever people start waking up to how they are fcuked over when it gets bad enough they build up a fake enemy and start a war for you to get behind.

One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.”

What can you do, thought Winston, against the lunatic who is more intelligent than yourself, who gives your arguments a fair hearing and then simply persists in his lunacy?”

The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from from ordinary hypocrisy: they are deliberate exercises in doublethink”

“It was possible, no doubt, to imagine a society in which wealth, in the sense of personal possessions and luxuries, should be evenly distributed, while power remained in the hands of a small privileged caste. But in practice such a society could not long remain stable. For if leisure and security were enjoyed by all alike, the great mass of human beings who are normally stupefied by poverty would become literate and would learn to think for themselves; and when once they had done this, they would sooner or later realise that the privileged minority had no function, and they would sweep it away. In the long run, a hierarchical society was only possible on a basis of poverty and ignorance.”

“The essential act of war is destruction, not necessarily of human lives, but of the products of human labour. War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent.”

It was curious to think that the sky was the same for everybody, in Eurasia or Eastasia as well as here. And the people under the sky were also very much the same–everywhere, all over the world, hundreds or thousands of millions of people just like this, people ignorant of one another’s existence, held apart by walls of hatred and lies, and yet almost exactly the same–people who had never learned to think but were storing up in their hearts and bellies and muscles the power that would one day overturn the world.”

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22558]

PistolPete wrote:

Because no evidence or rational argument has been proposed in support of that proposition. You see without evidence or logic you are just uttering conclusions. You say he is a puppet–I say he isn’t–without evidence we will just banty conclusions back and forth and get nowhere.

The process of logical reasoning depends upon facts and data. without facts and data there is no way for Faust, myself or anyone else to evaluate the merits of your argument. In which case we would necessary be relying upon faith alone. Now I trust that you’re a sincere honest guy who truly believes what you’re saying but it would be nice to have some evidence/facts too.

This. Exactly this. You understand, Pete.

It’sallbs wrote:

The object of terrorism is terrorism. The object of oppression is oppression. The object of torture is torture. The object of murder is murder. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?”

You argue that exactly what is shown or stated is exactly what happened or happens.

To quote Sun Tzu. “All war is deception”

It’sallbs wrote:

One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship.”

It’sallbs, you have trapped yourself into “circular logic”, where all events and evidence, no matter how different, come to the same conclusion.

And you are to blind to realize this.

[bladeParticipant]

Leaving for Antarctica soon . Nice little town we have down there .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[It’sallbsParticipant]

The Link Between Brexit And The US Election, MI6, Fake News And Dark Money

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

You argue that exactly what is shown or stated is exactly what happened or happens.

No I don’t.

Faust For Science wrote:

It’sallbs, you have trapped yourself into “circular logic”, where all events and evidence, no matter how different, come to the same conclusion.

And you think they don’t?

Confusion is deliberately created to hide the simple truth.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[,Participant 1301]

I enjoy the discussion. Thanks Yumbo.

IABS ? You quote great fictional stories. Shall we agree that the facts are only self evident from the correct angle of view or just not provable with the advertised false narratives or even their converse?

Its a kin to believing that EVERYTHING you interpret is a lie or leads to a lie or just leads the conclusion to be a lie yet upon deeper analysis, but all analysis is a lie too so there is no hope and that there MUST be a boogeyman behind the curtain that we cannot show…

I may have to reread multiple times but, who the f~~~ is behind the curtain right now? Individuals or just a Club that changes Names and Wealth? (naive enough to think that there is a concrete answer)

A. J. Ayer The Path Not Taken, suggest that there are only two basic driving forces for humans, Power and Fear. Those that possess Rule.

I do hope Donnie sets things better. It looks a wee bit grim this early.

Think I see the thousands of Strings in the sky but just can’t see who’s pulling them yet but its just a Theory anyway.

THINGS THAT MAKE YOU SAY: NFG
and of course that’s exactly what they want, riiiiight>?

with joy/without hate

[Y_Participant 4591]

, wrote:

I enjoy the discussion. Thanks Yumbo.

You are most welcome. I hope to get as many men discussing these things as possible.

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