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MGTOW.com because men who don’t fit the narrative are deemed not worthy.
Well, the narrative TrollBill tried to establish.
And anyone not obeying his commands was run-off.
That caused more damage than all tuna or press hit pieces combined.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
more about learning.
Close your mouth and open your ears you have much learning to do.
http://www.leavemeansleave.eu
Anonymous6MGTOW.com because men who don’t fit the narrative are deemed not worthy.
Well, the narrative TrollBill tried to establish.
And anyone not obeying his commands was run-off.
That caused more damage than all tuna or press hit pieces combined.
Everyone, G has made a VERY important point here. This is exactly what has been going on recently. Basically if people didn’t agree that trolls are to be ignored, they were harassed and lectured to, even though there is no rule that states that we must ignore trolls.
Similar thing with the MONK deal. Maybe being monk is the right way to go for some, maybe it isn’t for others. NEITHER side is the official MGTOW deal, not here nor in general.
This leaves men who still want to fulfill their carnal desires feeling like they don’t belong here,
Abandoning desire is the very first step of MGTAO.
, even though there is no rule that states that we must ignore trolls.
Actually Keymaster has made the point that trolls and tunas are best ignored more times than I care to remember.
http://www.leavemeansleave.eu
Anonymous6, even though there is no rule that states that we must ignore trolls.
Actually Keymaster has made the point that trolls and tunas are best ignored more times than I care to remember.
While that is true I spoke to him directly on the Zoom about this and he said that it was just his opinion and it wasn’t a rule here.
I post on here about my ill fated attempts at dating. I’m not stupid. I’m not looking for something that might tie me down, drain my bank account or try to live with me.
The last women I flirted with was last week. On Match she messaged me. I checked out her profile and it said she was 43 looking for 54 and above. I’m 58.
I sort of thought it was a scam but I went along with it. She wasn’t beautiful but neither am I. She was doable and that is my criteria.
Of course when I spoke to her she told me she went across country on a hitchhiking trip in 1972. Do the math. That makes her about 66.
I called her on it and told her that her profile said 43. She denied it. I went to the computer. She still denied it.
I said “I’m too young for you” and got off the phone.
Monk is a small fraction of mgtow in my experience reading thousands of posts.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
Sooo…
NAWALT?
go ahead, risk “the Call”.
Your path.
We laugh.I’m sure that there might be a few wild Grizzly bears that won’t eat your face if you try to pet them but that doesn’t mean that it’s okay for you to try.
As MGTOWs we must encourage the AWALT mindset. If we concede NAWALT, some inexperienced young (or stupid) f~~~er is going to think that the risk might be worth it and take a chance. He doesn’t understand that the odds are overwhelmingly against him ever finding a unicorn. If he takes that chance and f~~~s up his life, I wouldn’t want that on my conscience…
Let’s play devil’s advocate. So what if MGTOW is cult. God knows the rest of the world treats most of us like s~~~ day in and day out. And society rewards them for doing so. We have no other places to go. We have no personal space but here. And the world is getting harsher towards us. They believe they have the right to hurt us and that if we get angry they win by having us arrested for hurting their feelings, while they believe we should only feel pain and nothing else.
The hypocritical bigotry set against us is beyond anything in history.
If there was a physical location where MGTOW go to meet and vacation, and it was not a setup, I would go there. No brainwashing need. As long as I was treated like a human being by them I would likely take a bull for them.
LURK BEFORE JOINING
THEN NO ONE HAS TO CHANGE TO SUITE ONES WANTS AND “RULES”
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Stop MGTOW becoming a cult
We’re not a cult! Not yet anyway. We first need to get funny hats…
MGTOW.com is fast-becoming become a self-congratulatory club for men who’ve sworn off women. Observations about women get shouted down with “I don’t care about women”, unless you’re a long-standing member and then it’s often a different response. Men are called “fools” for merely being with a woman in any capacity, despite many of our members doing the same. It is like there is a small sect of ‘true MGTOW’ who don’t consider you real MGTOW unless you’ve gone monk.
This leaves men who still want to fulfill their carnal desires feeling like they don’t belong here, but neither do they belong to some PUA or trad con forum either.
This shouting down of knowledge of female nature is anti-learning.
Instead we see endless linking posts to articles and videos by men who apparently are ‘totally red pill’. But who clearly are not nearly as NFG as they claim to be. Otherwise why the endless linking to s~~~ we already know.There is no acknowledgement that there are women who do not fit the mold of your typical nasty gold-digging c~~~. I know not whether this is because the situation in the USA is really bad or because the men have never experienced a good woman. Saying “ALL women are bad” is pretty pathetic. It is totally wrong and intellectually dishonest. It is no better than being one of those women that swear ALL men are bad.
Some of us have experienced good women. And while it’s not worked out, it wasn’t always because we were ‘f~~~ed over’. So you want to live life completely on your own terms – fine. But to say that reciprocal relationships don’t exist is plain false.
I expect this to be quite a controversial post. But MGTOW.com has changed lately and I don’t like what it’s turning into. It used to be more supportive, more about learning. It was never an elitist club for MGTOW monks, which is what it seems to have become. That and a repository for linking to trite posts about all and sundry in the blue pill world. Yawn.
I advocate the red pill in everything. That includes calling out what I see as the slow disintegration of MGTOW.com because men who don’t fit the narrative are deemed not worthy.
A lot of guys, MGTOW included, will seek to pair bond or have short-term casual relationships. MGTOW here would do well to remember what the acronym stands for, and not to act superior to men who aren’t as monk-like as themselves.
To lurkers and newer members, never be afraid to post your own truth. The moment we become too afraid to risk the wrath of the group, is the moment we realize that this group is probably not worth being part of.
Mgtow and this site is in no danger of becoming a cult.
We take marching orders from no one. No secret handshakes, no midnight meetings.
We have core ideas more or less universal. How men define minimizing their personal risk is something done per individual. Hence, going mgtow. Can we state something appears to be stupid based on what we think about the risk someone else mentions they are taking? Damn right we can. Thats what this place is about. Talking about stuff the way men talk about stuff.
Are somethings more of a hot button than others? You bet. Becaus some stuff is a lot more risky and stupid that people state they are doing, than other things. So yeah some people will take more heat for doing things that more guys here think are dumb for a mgtow guy to do for no good reason.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
I don’t give a S~~~, about anyone’s opinion about my life.
I DO WHAT THE F~~~ I WANT.
AWALT tho. Even if it’s not true, but that mindset doesn’t hurt. Truth be told, it benefits you to have that mindset. You can NEVER, predict a woman’s next move.
I don’t mind being in a short term relationship with a woman, but, it got to be on my terms. If not, I’m out.
Bottom line is, do what thou wilt.
Money is God.
I know not whether this is because the situation in the USA is really bad
It is.
it wasn’t a rule here.
Anonymous3Some of us have experienced good women. And while it’s not worked out, it wasn’t always because we were ‘f~~~ed over’.
My friend, I would be careful about this.
The problem with women is not if/when they decide to ruin your life in a single big event, like divorce or false accusations.The problem is when the corrode your life slowly, getting control over you, establishing dominance over your time and resources, and destroying your spirit over time.
The selection is not about women that can divorce rape you or not. Its about women that WILL play mental and emotional f ames to control you!
Now I am sure that we men are willing to pay a price for sex and companionship. Therefore we embark in a deal that is constantly getting worst. But like the proverbial frog in the pan, since water starts cold and is slowly heated, we get boiled alive without noticing.
Yes, I also dreamed that armed with the right knowledged, I could protect myself and make it work. If that is your thing, then have a good try in http://www.marriedandhappy.com
It is possible… If you are willing to be on alert 24/7, ready to read the signs of attack, and read to defend your sanity.
I got tired eventually. I got tired of making my personal life a perpetual psychological war. I got tired of not being myself and in peace.
For what?
Young men are figuring things out that took many of us into our late thirties or later to discover.
Many have valid and hilarious stories to tell. A couple of my coworkers are extremely red pilled and barely able to drink legally.
These are the guys who get marriage is a scam and won’t have a female roommate but aren’t even close to stopping their habit of banging random girls. They’re the raging c~~~ MGTOW.
Their stories of female nature are priceless. I wish we had more young bucks here sharing them. It’s easy to dismiss them and slam them for their mistakes. They haven’t reached the point others here have yet. Be patient with the newbies.
It is possible… If you are willing to be on alert 24/7, ready to read the signs of attack, and read to defend your sanity.
I got tired eventually. I got tired of making my personal life a perpetual psychological war. I got tired of not being myself and in peace.
For what?
Perfect!
My job – dealing with wealthy customer c~~~s – already made that a necessity.
In my private life, this had no place.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Anonymous12This leaves men who still want to fulfill their carnal desires feeling like they don’t belong here,
Abandoning desire is the very first step of MGTAO.
Exactly, freeing yourself of biological needs is very liberating.
Name one overly happily married man in your life… I bet it’s very rare or he doesn’t exist at all. Maybe 1/100 if that.
Take that knowledge and let it sink in for awhile. Do you really think you are that lucky?
I see spreading the MGTOW cry of “AWALT” as a ‘due diligence’ kinda thing. We spew what needs to be spewed hoping to save some guys from f~~~ing up their lives. Let them then heed or ignore (at their own peril) what we are telling them…
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