Speculation about members' profiles high-jacked: Tower/Gargamel

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  • #862238
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    Gravel Pit
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    Too many of us to count now, have pointblank told Gargamel that we like him, and that we think he is funny, and that we’re ready for him to stop playing around and return to sanity. He made his point. Now it’s past being a joke. Some of us even lashed out at him, angry for his irresponsible cat spamming. He just continues, no matter how you treat him, with respect or not.

    This leads me to conclude that his account may have been hacked during the login outage 10 weeks ago. Im also suspicious of Tower’s account as well.

    Perhaps Im being paranoid, but am I? These two men used to post quite differently in the past. Neither of them was blocked during the log-in problem outage to my knowledge. I was still here as well, because I believe I have a strong enough password that it didn’t affect me.

    But that is when their personalities changed? I remember it, it was a black/white change, not gradual at all. The avatar pictures they used were abandoned. Their profiles were altered significantly. And they both started bashing the site and the creator. The FONT used in the troll avatar “Kitty Master” is identical and is being used by both of them? Phoenix also used it. Are all of them the same person!? I’m suspicious that there’s much more to the story than we know. I have no proof. To me, it’s unreasonable that Gargamel has become this destructive to the well being of the site. Its unlike someone that supposedly cares about MGTOW to take a grudge that far. Tower, I can’t say I know him, but in my mind’s eye, I always pictured him as a guy living out in the woods. A handy man who works with wood…don’t you remember his posts? He is not like that anymore, what the heck happened?

    Earlier today, other members were also showing their concern.

    I have rarely seen someone over react the way you did (said to Gargamel).

    It’s correct, his reaction has gone nuclear, it has no basis or logic which leads me to suspect other possible scenarios.

    When the site went down everybody seemed to go nuts here.

    Yes, the site is still foggy/static/half finished, left in an untidy and unkempt state. Billing has stopped (can anyone else confirm this?). New members cut off from joining. Top posters gone awry. Are we really dealing with what we think we’re dealing with? Is it really the truth, that KM is just busy and progress is slow, that Gargamel is really this uncompliant and irresponsible, that mgTower after 4 years of dedicated presence has suddenly decided to sport a Kitty Master avatar? These things seem radical and far fetched.

    so off the wall and uninformed I figured their accounts had been taken over

    I can come to no other conclusion. I’m trying not to believe it. What am I supposed to conclude though?! After the way they’re acting?

    I don’t understand why anyone would intentionally harm their credibility in this way. Especially given the seriousness of the content matter of some of Gargamel’s old threads.

    Bravo! Both these guys were decent people who made great comments. Men I was proud to know. Do they really not understand the power of their actions here? Do they not understand the depth of brotherhood and respect that exists here? Are these men even standing behind those computers anymore? They are testing that faith.

    I shall henceforth be ignoring any post from him, literally acting like his posts are invisible,

    Yup, I already said my peace too. I’m done too, acknowledging his posts that is. I have no recourse. The guys I thought I knew are gone?

    maybe KM should….

    Maybe KeyMaster should reassure us that this isn’t happening. I’m very concerned. I continue to be optimistic and wait for the finishing touches on this website. I also continue to be optimistic that Tower and Gargamel are just kidding around.

    To Gargamel and Tower, seriously. Some of us are kind of gullible. We’re not sure you’re even kidding anymore. We don’t understand the motive behind it. We don’t get the tact. The litter and cat stuff is funny but its gone on so long that I’m starting to think you aren’t who you’re claiming to be. Are cats really this funny? Yes. Are your motives and identities believable anymore? No.

    I can tell you this, whether you guys still are the same people or if you’re hackers…. one thing is certain. The men here are not leaving. We will be here posting FOR LIFE. We have had life experiences so profound, in connection with MGTOW, that we’re not leaving just because you posted some cat litter for a year… so I hope you understand that. We wont leave.

    If you are hackers… you’re losing the battle because we’re not giving in. If you guys are just fooling around…well, I dont know what to tell you, you’re sort of throwing away good relationships. You’re scaring the children! Please stop!

    #862240
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    LOL.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #862244
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    Since the retard couldn’t win with his lies and personal insults here…

    /forums/topic/hey-guys-14/

    /forums/topic/new-messenger-rising-content-f~~~-gargamel/

    … he starts another TROLL THREAD.

    The 3rd one by now.

    Here is the first one:

    /forums/topic/excavating-sand-from-duchess-gargamellas-vagina/

    And he picks a time when he thinks I am sleeping…

    And here is his introductions, admitting that he is an alcoholic troublemaker and so on.
    /forums/topic/once-troubled-and-confused-how-i-saw-clarity/

    This is the kind of role model we need to talk down to us…

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #862246
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    Well, then have your non-existent admin send me an email to verify my account.

    But I already sent a couple of them to downgrade my account… …that were not replied to.

    I now just wait if my credit card is again being billed between the 2nd and 5th of the month.

    My account is not “hacked” I am alive and comment what happens here on the other site.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #862247
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    Here is the original .jpg file created with Photoshop.

    The font is called “Segoe Print bold”

    Open Source KittyMaster drawing to be used by anyone who likes it.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #862248
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    And here is the original .jpg render of the custom made 1280 x 476 pixel profile background.

    To be used by anyone who is on the Kitty Site and likes it.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #862249
    +4
    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
    Participant

    It is plain that a life which includes deep resentment leads only to futility and unhappiness. To the precise extent that we permit these, do we squander the hours that might have been worth while. But with the alcoholic, whose hope is the maintenance and growth of a spiritual experience, this business of resentment is infinitely grave. We found that it is fatal. For when harboring such feelings we shut ourselves off from the sunlight of the Spirit.

    If we were to live, we had to be free of anger.

    And we have ceased fighting anything or anyone – even alcohol. For by this time sanity will have returned. We will seldom be interested in liquor. If tempted, we recoil from it as from a hot flame. We react sanely and normally, and we will find that this has happened automatically. We will see that our new attitude toward liquor has been given us without any thought or effort on our part. It just comes! That is the miracle of it. We are not fighting it, neither are we avoiding temptation. We feel as though we had been placed in a position of neutrality – safe and protected. We have not even sworn off. Instead, the problem has been removed. It does not exist for us. We are neither c~~~y nor are we afraid. That is our experience. That is how we react so long as we keep in fit spiritual condition.

    It is easy to let up on the spiritual program of action and rest on our laurels. We are headed for trouble if we do, for alcohol is a subtle foe. We are not cured of alcoholism. What we really have is a daily reprieve contingent on the maintenance of our spiritual condition.

    MEOW, MEOW, MEOW….lol. What you fail to realize is that we all like cats here bro. We love pussy, especially digital pussy because it doesn’t stink and you never have to clean the litter box. You’re going to have cat pictures stuck in your brain for life, you understand? Seared into your subconscious, cats on the brain.

    #862250
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    For the future of this site as a cat forum, I can provide more artwork if needed.

    LOL.

    Google search “Meows Going Their Own Way” already leads here.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #862251
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    Time for a commercial break:

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #862252
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    MGTOW.com powered by Meow Mix

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #862253
    +2
    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
    Participant

    manufactured …….. peculiar glitches ………..lingering dis-construction… . bizarre .. twilight zone

    #862254
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    Fantastic that the Meow post did not return a 500 Server Error.

    LOL.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #862255
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #862256
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    This is my 12,000th post…

    Let me celebrate it with the right theme:

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #862257
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    Now your KittyMaster/KittyMastress can “Spectatorize” me…

    I no longer care.

    Too many of us to count now, have pointblank told Gargamel that we like him, and that we think he is funny, and that we’re ready for him to stop playing around and return to sanity.

    And this is another COMPLETE LIE.

    Ganging up on me and trolls taking their turns, one at a time, is not telling someone “you like him”.

    Your arrogance and cynicism would deserve a full force kick in the face with all teeth gone.

    This would be my preferred honoring of your behavior in real life. I would do it differently though…

    You belong to the kind of people who provoke others to go off like that. That’s why all your relationships FAILED. See your introduction.

    Here is a repost of a reply from the other bulls~~~ troll thread:

    I wish Gargamel would get back to his “Dale Carnegie” professionalism and leave off the negativity. I used to really like his deep threads (and still do). Valuable MGTOW content that is being rendered silly by the Cat pics. The intelligence that was posted is now countered. No one will ever take a thread seriously when it is littered with cat pics. I don’t understand why anyone would intentionally harm their credibility in this way. Especially given the seriousness of the content matter of some of Gargamel’s old threads.

    Well, complain to those here who constantly tell me how worthless my work is.

    And none of the cowards here have the guts to call these trolls out. Not on one single occasion. Not even in the beginning of my “unc~~~ing” from here.

    I’ll now smash my work with a hammer and make it shine elsewhere where these retards can’t follow me.

    I wish I could erase it all and make my video collections password protected. The real mission goes on elsewhere while this place falls into the hands of mental retards and borderline incels. (Just look at their language, no woman would want them anyway)

    I also realized that these men here can’t be saved. Real MGTOW concepts are referred to as “drivel” and only a tiny few of really self-sufficient men actually get the point.

    I posted my stuff on the wrong site. Or rather the site has changed to the type that no longer welcomes my materials.

    This site is only cat pics to me now. KM can “Spectatorize” me anytime. I no longer care.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #862258
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    I can tell you this, whether you guys still are the same people or if you’re hackers…. one thing is certain. The men here are not leaving. We will be here posting FOR LIFE. We have had life experiences so profound, in connection with MGTOW, that we’re not leaving just because you posted some cat litter for a year… so I hope you understand that. We wont leave.

    And believe me, I will be in your path for every lie and swearword thrown at me.

    You are not immune here.

    You can’t keep the site closed forever and I have followers who hate the f~~~ out of you…

    Ever wondered why “join” is closed for almost forever?

    So many men you (and the troll gang) have f~~~ed with are waiting outside to troll your cynical ass away. Believe me. The punch will be massive. I don’t need to do it, others will.

    You ruined KM’s game by f~~~ing with too many people.

    Don’t ever say again that you care for this site here. What you do sinks KM’s ship.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #862260
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    Every troll thread you start will get bounced forever.

    And if KM punts me, I will have someone do it.

    Your s~~~ stinks and others must be notified about what you do here.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #862262
    +4
    MACHO
    MACHO
    Participant

    This leads me to conclude that his account may have been hacked during the login outage 10 weeks ago. Im also suspicious of Tower’s account as well.

    Perhaps Im being paranoid, but am I?

    A bit of healthy paranoia never hurts! but here I can assure you that No account has been hacked! I totally recognize members behaviour on here! We all have a dark side.. And some can’t control theirs! Do not give in to fears, paranoia or panic… You have on full display what humans are capable of when they fall! And fallen they have!

    You must own a better Crystal ball than I
    #862263
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator
    29101

    You have now made so many enemies outside of here…

    The reopening of the join function will give you most likely more tastes of your own medicine than you could ever dream of.

    Tower said: The site is f~~~ed. Like Somalia f~~~ed… I guess he is right.

    KM will most likely get sleepless nights from the revenge takers. And close the place down. Your arrogance is not without it’s limits.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #862265
    +7
    Branched off
    Branched off
    Participant
    10926

    I don’t think the accounts hacked theory is right. Its a nice idea -no one wants to feel betrayed by their seniors in a group. However in the end if the accounts had been hacked those guys are deep in the MGTOW community. They would have told someone that they were locked out of their account and some trouble maker had taken their place. I have no connections and even I managed to contact someone who was in contact with everyone else during the lock out.

    It is hard to speculate why they are doing this. I would suggest that they are angry with KM. They were the lynch pins of the community and they were ignored? KM hasn’t even dropped by to ban them or make them spectators for s~~~ting on his forum. They felt they were doing their bit but they were ignored by someone they had supported? Now they have started their own site, it may be desirable for them to rubbish a competitor’s site? They were somewhat wounded people -their enthusiasm for posting came from anger and paranoia, once that was turned against the site they engaged their new enemy with their usual full force?

    Anyway its a pity. It still doesn’t have to be that way but I hope it stops soon or KM returns and stops it.

    A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

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