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I get that illegal immigration is tearing the US appart, but it is NOT by getting rid of ALL immigrants (despite some of them being legal, and they do contribute to the society in question) that the problem will be solved.
There are exceptions of course, but the majority who want a wall are not against legal immigration. I’m not sure where you got that information.
From here:
I’m f~~~ing fed up with all immigrants, legal or not, because I’m struggling competing for a job, which the Mexican will likely get over me and that’s not fair. Why should I be out of work and living on disabilities for years, while some brown skin who can’t speak English is working and living well? I hate having to hear that Spanish gibberish they like to loudly converse with. I’m sick of hearing on the phone answering machine (press 1 for English, [gibberish]). I’m sick of foreigners feeling entitled to live on free welfare (money, food, college, healthcare, housing). That money should be for Americans citizens only who are on hard times.
Trump was right last night when he said that immigrants are stealing our jobs and driving down wages while Americans are struggling.
Because of this, I learned to hate non Americans who live and work in America because I’m struggling to get a job. No one who wants to work and make a living for himself should be struggling as hard and as long as I have. Kick the Mexicans (legal or not) out!"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.
Right. I don’t think ResidentEvil7 represents the majority who want a wall. He would be an exception. He certainly does not represent me or the majority of people I’ve conversed with.
I will say this though, ResidentEvil7 has a point in that work visa are typically given out so that big business can bring in cheap labor instead of paying Americans a fair wage, with the excuse that there are not enough qualified Americans and it’s necessary for the economy.
Ok. Then do it.
say that in sections where a wall was built the illegal passage has dropped to nothing
Yes in populated areas this does have an effect on illegal border crossings but most Illegal immigration is done via People who overstay their visas which means they get in at legal points of entry (aka at the Border crossings or by Plane). I am fine with fencing in the well populated areas (like we have now) but i see no benefit to building the wall in the middle of nowhere (id rather have Censors and Cameras there).
So how do you argue a wall will not work?
Because it does not keep the majority of illegals out and ignores other ways into the Country, so while Pablo cannot just hop a fence anymore Rafael can just get a visa, get into the United States and then overstay that visa.
why did Obozo just build a Uuuuge wall around his $8MM dollar mansion in DC?
A Trump supporter calls Obama a bozo despite what is in office now? but let’s go on with what you are saying here, the fact is if Obozo just built a wall and left it at that, it would do jacks~~~ rather he has some of the best Security around (Ex Presidents don’t get the short hand of the stick just because they left office). With the rest skills and supplies i am willing to wager that it is possible to get over any wall as the Security is what you really have to deal with. So would you rather spend money on wall or increased Border security (Obama picked the second one and spent more then any other President and had a record for Deportations)?
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say that in sections where a wall was built the illegal passage has dropped to nothing
Yes in populated areas this does have an effect on illegal border crossings but most Illegal immigration is done via People who overstay their visas which means they get in at legal points of entry (aka at the Border crossings or by Plane). I am fine with fencing in the well populated areas (like we have now) but i see no benefit to building the wall in the middle of nowhere (id rather have Censors and Cameras there).
Oh, so you can watch them cross illegally in high Def? The wall is not targeting people who enter legally and overstay. Smoke screen.
So how do you argue a wall will not work?
Because it does not keep the majority of illegals out and ignores other ways into the Country, so while Pablo cannot just hop a fence anymore Rafael can just get a visa, get into the United States and then overstay that visa.
A wall keeps the majority of those who cross illegally out. Its proven, not a leap of faith. Again – Visas are not the topic here.
why did Obozo just build a Uuuuge wall around his $8MM dollar mansion in DC?
A Trump supporter calls Obama a bozo despite what is in office now? but let’s go on with what you are saying here, the fact is if Obozo just built a wall and left it at that, it would do jacks~~~ rather he has some of the best Security around (Ex Presidents don’t get the short hand of the stick just because they left office). With the rest skills and supplies i am willing to wager that it is possible to get over any wall as the Security is what you really have to deal with. So would you rather spend money on wall or increased Border security (Obama picked the second one and spent more then any other President and had a record for Deportations)?
“increased border security” like oBozo did? Yeah – that was ineffective. So we had a vote and a cornerstone of the platform that won the election was building a wall. The Dems are sore losers and suffer from Trump Outrage and are against anything he stands for even when his policies are hugely effective.
Because it does not keep the majority of illegals out and ignores other ways into the Country, so while Pablo cannot just hop a fence anymore Rafael can just get a visa, get into the United States and then overstay that visa.
There should absolutely be additional efforts put in place to prevent/deter Visa overstays, and I’m disappointed that this aspect of illegal immigration is not discussed more often. However, I don’t see that as a reason not to have a wall. All the leaks need to be addressed, and I think the wall is a good place to start, even if it’s not the biggest leak, since it is a very symbolic leak. In a way, I see it similar to an alarm company’s sign in the front yard. It doesn’t prevent intruders by itself (at all in this case), but it does deter intruders from trying.
A Trump supporter calls Obama a bozo despite what is in office now? but let’s go on with what you are saying here, the fact is if Obozo just built a wall and left it at that, it would do jacks~~~ rather he has some of the best Security around (Ex Presidents don’t get the short hand of the stick just because they left office). With the rest skills and supplies i am willing to wager that it is possible to get over any wall as the Security is what you really have to deal with. So would you rather spend money on wall or increased Border security (Obama picked the second one and spent more then any other President and had a record for Deportations)?
So again, if Obama’s security is the real deterrent and a wall is irrelevant, then why did he put up a wall at all? I agree that a wall that isn’t monitored in anyway is pointless, but no one is saying we can put up a wall and drop all surveillance of the border. Like with Obama’s home, security agents combined with a wall is more effective than a wall or agents alone.
And why are presenting wall and security agents/tech as an either/or type situation. There is nothing stopping us from having both. There is no real budget constraints involved here as the costs are insignificant compared to the entire budget, and the cost savings from not having to support illegal immigrants once they get here more than cover the cost. Any one claiming the wall is a waste of money, but is fine with all the bloated spending of the Federal government, is kidding themselves.
One part of the overall solution I’ve heard, but is not being talked about in the media much is to start accepting/rejecting asylum claims at embassies instead of at the US Border, or in addition to. This way anyone who seeks asylum does not have to pay a coyote, risk rape and all the dangers of such a trek across several countries. They can wait in line in their own country and go home on their own without the US having to retain anyone or pay to send them back home when they are rejected. This appears to be a win win for everyone involved, but it doesn’t happen because the powers don’t want solutions, they want to continue profiting from the problem.
As far as Visa overstays, there has to be a solution. We could obviously start using trackers as we do for house arrests, but I’m sure that wouldn’t be dignified as much, and I’ve seen too many movies.
The most part, to me anyway, is that we start having real solutions to the problem as it should get the ball rolling. It’s been decades of excuses.
Ok. Then do it.
However, I don’t see that as a reason not to have a wall
I am against a full out wall because it is not cost effective but i am doubly against Trump’s wall because it is Trump we are dealing with the Man who has kept the Government shutdown for almost a month now, the Man who lies about how ISIS is sending Muslims from the Southern border, the Man who is corrupt and lies about alot of other things and the Man who brags about buying Fast food for a Sports team and paying for it all by himself.
It is probably best if we have a wall that Trump does not get to see it even if we have to wait 30 plus years for that to happen (if he merges with a Machine in 20 years then it might never happen).
So again, if Obama’s security is the real deterrent and a wall is irrelevant, then why did he put up a wall at all?
I looked up Obama’s home (right on the regular Newspaper site not some backdoor or secret) and it looks like Obama’s home has a wall but it it covers the back and sides of it only and is not the greatest wall (meaning the front door is open to the street someone could theoretically knock on his door).
This way anyone who seeks asylum does not have to pay a coyote, risk rape and all the dangers of such a trek across several countries
Not bad but i am also for a steamline process which promotes Immigration (so of course Gang members are not gonna be let in but it is easier for those who want it.
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Political activists cross Nancy Pelosi’s border:
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
Anonymous1Political activists cross Nancy Pelosi’s border:
That’s awesome. They jumped over Pelosi’s very small wall. “I guess in this case, walls don’t work.” LMAO
You don’t know the difference between a state and the country?
A constitutional amendment enumerates a citizen’s right to travel freely.
Free mobility promotes competition amongst governments. I certainly know the difference between a state and a country.
If the federal government were much smaller, as it was a century ago, there would be more competition amongst the states — citizens would vote with their feet against corrupt State and local governments, or overzealous ones.
The same is true of international boundaries. Competition promotes efficiency.
They were Europeans. They were not unassimilatable. Their parents made SURE they learned and spoke English and became Americans. Europeans came here to become Americans, not to get on welfare.
The immigrants you speak of came through Ellis Island, were checked for background and diseases. Customs didn’t let in security risks or alien cultures. Customs asked why they came, and then were thrown to the wolves to make it or break it. They didn’t get any welfare or free medical treatment.
Why am I giving this millennial a basic f~~~ing history lesson about America? What on Earth are you people learning in school these days? My goodness… This is basic knowledge. BASIC, I tell you.
In many cases, the parents went to school at night, and the children, often taught the parents English. Since illegal aliens are ineligible for welfare, and most legal immigrants are ineligible for the first 5 years they reside in the US, which immigrants are you talking about?
I went to school in the 1980’s. If you bothered reading my previous post, you would know that I have personally known hundreds of foreign nationals, students, and immigrants — technical workers from every continent.
Many of your statements are outright false:
Border crossers and illegal aliens should be shot and killed on sight. Men, women and children. This is what many other countries do.
What ‘other countries’? Maybe the India-Bangladesh border, or East and West German border during the cold war. VERY few others. So certainly not common to shoot border crossers.
You are two things
1.) completely ignorant on any and all things related to Asia, so just stop talking. Stop. Really…Stop.
2.) a parrot. Congratulations, you are taking a class in school about China. You can repeat what a professor or CNN says.
The problem is, when you discuss issues with someone who knows what they are talking about, you are uncovered for the idiot you are. That’s ok. Everybody plays the fool, and I did when I was you age as well.
I keep telling myself I am not going to get angry when I visit this website, but I just can’t get over how arrogant these young folks are.
There are several possible modes of argument. One, is insults; calling me ‘tuna’, ‘millenial’, etc.
The other mode is a reasoned, rational discussion.
Instead of focusing upon your disdain for me, consider whether China is ‘communist’. Does the State own Alibaba? No. China is best described as a socialist market economy. Just as the US is best described as a ‘mixed’ economy — a mixture of socialism and capitalism. Think about it. The de-collectivation of agriculture in China, was a move TOWARDS a market economy.
Cars are constantly getting recalled. There’s lead in the water in Flint. Toxic spills all over the place. You’re living on a different planet then me.
Ask yourself how long a modern automobile lasts now, versus how long it lasted 60 years ago. Why is it more reliable? Lubricant additives, corrosion inhibitors, viscosity modifiers in the oil. The quality control on the machined parts is better. Engines are made through CNC machining with tight tolerances. Air is cleaner in cities. Much, much cleaner.
This is primarily due to the invention of the catalytic converter. Coal-fired power plants are now equipped with scrubbers. They weren’t then. While I am an engineer, I’m also fascinated by the history of technology. Sure, the water in Flint has lead in it.
It’s a deceptive map. On that map, Alaska has three murders but is deep red. But then again, why would the Eff Bee Eye be deceptive?
If you are going to cite a map like that to prove that illegals are not a crime problem, then you need to read this book:
Innumeracy: Mathematical Illiteracy and Its Consequences
Alaska does not have ‘3 murders’. From where does that come? This is a map of RATES; murders are typically tabulated as a rate per 100,000. You are likely reading the TABLE showing the city ranked highest for murders IN ALASKA; that would be Kenai, Alaska, with 3 murders in 2015.
And yes, Alaska is most certainly deep red; with 62 murders in 2017 and a population of a mere 739,000; that puts the entire State of Alaska, at a rate of about 8.38 murders per 100,000 residents.
If you want a heat map by States vs murder capital rates within each state, you can view it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_homicide_rate
If illegals are a ‘crime problem’, then one would logically expect a much higher murder rate in Texas and Arizona than in midwestern states.
Why do you think Gary, Indiana had the highest crime rate in the US? And not, say, El Paso or Houston?
As for the FBI, I’m no friend of the agency; it has a history of corruption — J. Edgar Hoover is the poster boy of that. However, it merely collects crime data from state and local law enforcement, and publishes it. It is pretty easy to verify each and every one of those ~62 annual murders in news stories and other sources.
Innumeracy is worth reading — on that I’ll agree. As is fivethirtyeight.
And this dumbf~~~ery of a thread is why I will never go to the US, to spend my hard earned cash.
That’s fine, because we only WANT you and your cash, if you are an ‘murican Citizen, believe in our Christian God, can’t identify which hemisphere ‘murica resides in, weigh 300 lbs, love fast food, hate every other culture, and believe strongly in ‘nation building’ through advanced drone technology.
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The problem will be solved whent the Welfare State is finally dead and gone, including for US citizens. Make it or break it, save for your retirement or go broke when you are older.
Nobody needs a “safety net”. Nobody is entitled to one, too.
More serious now — absolutely correct. We actually have more CITIZEN freeloaders than ILLEGAL OR LEGAL immigrant freeloaders. The number of fraudulent disability cases is astounding. There are states such as West Virginia in the US where 9% of the population aged 18-64 is collecting disability checks! And of course, the disability applications, RISE AND FALL directly with unemployment. Interestingly, though, the ILLEGALS actually collect FEW of these benefits, because they are ineligible — as are recent legal immigrants — for most giveaway programs. The illegals and recent immigrants have a MUCH HIGHER labor participation rate than NATIVE BORN CITIZENS. People don’t believe me when I say this, and it really p~~~es them off. But it’s true.
Cars are constantly getting recalled. There’s lead in the water in Flint. Toxic spills all over the place. You’re living on a different planet then me.
My last post on this was cut off for some reason.
Fifty years ago the paint also had lead in it, the AIR had lead oxide it in (from combustion of leaded gasoline, before it was banned). So, air and water are much, much, much cleaner now, than then.
Indeed, there wasn’t even any routine testing for most of these chemicals back then, AND the detection limits for such testing were MUCH higher than they are now for many of them.
If you don’t believe this, look at a plot of ambient ozone for Los Angeles from 1950 to present and see how much it has dropped — over 95%. Or look at the 98% drop in VOCs in the last 60 years, despite many more cars and gasoline consumption.
So the solution is to take them out of school and put them to work. School is an antiquated relic of Prussian times. Teens can learn everything on their own now with the very tools you just mentioned. They are being bred to be lazy, by a school system that seeks to defer adulthood because teachers want cushy jobs, high salaries, and summers off. School does not in any way benefit the student. It’s forced corporate slavery and indoctrination at their own expense, and your globalist ideas are proof of that. School is a tool of the devil. Anyone who sends his children there gets what he deserves.
On this I’d largely agree. Regimented education produces automatons. Education is big business, and credentialism, rather than competence, rules the roost.
I would not characterize my views as ‘globalist’ in many areas. I do not believe in interventionist foreign policy, or one-world government, or foreign aid. I’m pro-gun rights and believe in individualism, low taxes, and small government. School is not necessarily bad in and of itself; but the way school is structured — regimented progress, required to take certain classes, lack of vocational trading, and many other aspects, such as not teaching the virtues of individualism and free markets — are detrimental in my mind. The curriculum is lightweight — students do not learn critical thinking. The school system comprises glorified babysitters.
So how do you argue a wall will not work?
Because anonymousyam is a paid governmetn agent who is here to agitate and disrupt, writing this s~~~ all day long, because that is his job.
And no, that is not a joke. He really is. There’s just no way to get rid of him, because there’s no mods. Everything he says is communist. Everyone needs to just ignore him.
The Funniest thing about the wall, is watching all those Immigrants working on it. No really, the guys talking about how contract workers get f~~~ed over is SPOT ON!
Depending on what side they’re standing when the build it, the wall could be Made in the US or Made in Mexico.
Technically, it’s illegal, I believe, to make defense contracting materials outside the USA, so the wall must be made in the US, which means every worker will have to stand on the US side while building it. That’s an odd thought.
fair wage
There’s no such thing as a fair wage. This phrase is a bill of goods.
I don’t think ResidentEvil7 represents the majority who want a wall.
But he does represent the majority of black-pilled people who fully grasp what is happening in this world. And if he doesn’t represent the majority, it’s only because the so-called news and television shows and radio shows, including the “conservative” shows, and schools, spend every second of every day indoctrinating the people to go against 4 billion years of genetic programming to act in self interest and to be proud of and perpetuate their own society and gene pool.
Competition promotes efficiency.
This is high-school economic clap-trap. You may be old, but nonetheless, you are lacking much experience.
The production possibilities curve promotes greater economic surplus, which is a matter of cooperative trade, not competition. Competition among countries does not by any means promote efficiency, because the playing fields are incomparable. There’s a reason men and women don’t play competitive sports together. A women’s football team playing a men’s football team would not yield an outcome that would be described as “efficient”. Neither is the outcome among competition among nations.
Since illegal aliens are ineligible for welfare
Now you’re just being deliberately stupid.
I went to school in the 1980’s. If you bothered reading my previous post, you would know that I have personally known hundreds of foreign nationals, students, and immigrants — technical workers from every continent.
I quoted you and responded to that exact thing.
I went to school in the 1980’s.
Then did you do drugs? Because you need more black-pills.
There are several possible modes of argument. One, is insults; calling me ‘tuna’, ‘millenial’, etc.
The other mode is a reasoned, rational discussion.
Calling you Tuna means you’re possibly a girl, because you were arguing like a girl.
You want to destroy this country by giving free citizenship to foreigners while our own citizens are hurting? You’re a communist. A liberal nutcase who has never left the country. An inexperienced man with many blue-pills still left over.
If you don’t appreciate what your forefathers did for you, Go LIVE in another country. I used to not appreciate it, so I did go live and work in several other countries. You’re not experienced because you’ve “met” some foreigners and they “seem” like smart people to you.
Giving citizenship way is radical, anyway you slice it. White men are the benefactors of this country, and should be the beneficiaries. I am so tired of this self-loathing white male toxic masculinity crap. It’s time white men found their b~~~~ again, and take what’s rightfully ours. We don’t own anybody anything. The rest of the world owes us, as far as i am concerned.
Instead of focusing upon your disdain for me, consider whether China is ‘communist’. Does the State own Alibaba? No. China is best described as a socialist market economy. Just as the US is best described as a ‘mixed’ economy — a mixture of socialism and capitalism. Think about it. The de-collectivation of agriculture in China, was a move TOWARDS a market economy.
You’re a bookworm, you must be a college professor. GO LIVE THERE, because you are being arrogant.
Does the State own Alibaba?
YES, it does! That’s how s~~~ goes down over there. Jack Ma is scared s~~~less of Xi’s government, and is desperately trying to get into the US, but you don’t know that because you don’t speak the language, and all those Chinese spies you work with are “such nice humble people”. You don’t know what the F~~~ you’re taking about. The Chinese have a phrase “Hide a knife in your smile”.
You have to be a college professor or a government worker because you just can’t accept the fact that all the “knowledge” you learned in school is only a primer for the actual EXPERIENCE of life. Of going there, living there, working there, learning to speak the language, f~~~ing the girls there, trying to transfer money there, breathing the polluted air there, trying to surf the internet there, going out into the grasslands and villages and speaking with the locals, singing songs with them, getting scammed big-time there, and being spied on there by those f~~~ing COMMIES.
China is communist to the core. Make no mistake about it.
Instead of focusing upon your disdain for me, consider whether China is ‘communist’. Does the State own Alibaba? No. China is best described as a socialist market economy. Just as the US is best described as a ‘mixed’ economy — a mixture of socialism and capitalism. Think about it. The de-collectivation of agriculture in China, was a move TOWARDS a market economy.
That’s not reasoned rational argument. That’s quoting a textbook. There is an actually REAL world outside your college walls.
You’re Matt Damon in this video.
Buy a plane ticket and get OUT, and stay out for at least a year, and experience the world, if you dare! Go on sabattical, you’re college might even pay for it, but if they don’t, take a chance for once and go yourself. Because right now, every day you walk into that classroom thinking you’re actually teaching something, but you’re not. You’re just wasting air to a group of students who want a government certification so they can get some desk job and waste their life away because you never taught them anything real…because you haven’t left your silver spoons life and learned anything true outside of your stained-glass safe space. You’re a book. Not even a book. You’re yesterday’s newspaper clippings by some reporter who calls herself (or himself, or itself) Hesh Mufasta, or ASSOCIATED PRESS.
Many of your statements are outright false:
No, they aren’t. My statements are 99.999% true. Your statements are false. It’s not that you don’t know things. It’s that what you know ain’t so.
Ask yourself how long a modern automobile lasts now, versus how long it lasted 60 years ago.
There you go again. What the F~~~ are you talking about? There’s probably a show in your town within the next three months showcasing CARS that have LASTED 60 years. You are silver spoons sheltered, you know nothing of the world. Listen to Allentown much? Iron and coal? Chromane and steel? Union workers? College Degrees taught us nothing at all? Have fun getting into an accident in today’s Toyota Camry today – you’ll end up a St. Judes getting two replacement legs. I guess you think those two massive factory explosions in TianJin last year that killed thousands is “efficiency” by the competitive “free-market” global economy.
Air is cleaner in cities. Much, much cleaner.
The government is dumping Florida in the water because it costs too much to dispose of. Floride is poisonous toxic waste. It’s the main ingredient in Rat Poison. Learn about Chemtrails. David Keith ADMITTS we are all breathing aluminum, which is making everybody insane. John Brneann, Ken Caldera… these mad scientists all admit they are deliberately polluting the entire planet in order to control the weather and to create better bio-warfare weaponry. that’s chemtrails.
Coal-fired power plants are now equipped with scrubbers.
Guess what China uses………..
If illegals are a ‘crime problem’,
If??? If??? IF?????? It’s ILLEGAL to cross the border. 100% of Illegals are criminals! Why is this so difficult to understand? It’s gotta be the chemtrails destroying everyone’s brains.
Why do you think Gary, Indiana had the highest crime rate in the US? And not, say, El Paso or Houston?
Gee I really don’t know. Let me ask my frends Sanford and Son.
School is not necessarily bad in and of itself;
Nothing is bad in and of itself. Everything will be used for good, and for evil.
Sandals writes: And no, that is not a joke. He really is. There’s just no way to get rid of him, because there’s no mods. Everything he says is communist. Everyone needs to just ignore him.
Really? Since he has argued *against* taxes, big government and regulations, in several threads, that does not make him a ‘communist’. If you disagree with his views on Trump, post a cogent argument. Also remember, disagreeing with Trump, does NOT necessarily mean AGREEING with the Democratic agenda — certainly NOT in my case!
In SOME ways, the lack of moderators is good — people can say what they want, and are not suppressed. An open forum for discussion. Though I favor moderators to block Cat-trolls.
Nothing is bad in and of itself. Everything will be used for good, and for evil.
Education is good. My issues are mainly with the public SCHOOLS, which are wasteful of resources, and employ a one-size fits all system. They have low standards in the US, despite spending vast sums of money. They fail to teach personal finance/money management, vocational skills, and critical thinking. They do not CHALLENGE the youth. The urban area I reside in, consistently receives an ‘F’ for its largest district; but because there is no school choice, there are no consequences. Nobody loses their job, and nothing changes.
Guess what China uses………..
True. But what does this have to do with the discussion at hand? You implied domestic air pollution was worse; this was then soundly refuted based upon atmospheric concentration decreasing over the decades for critical hazardous air pollutants (HAPs). If you don’t believe that data, just talk to somebody over 50 who drove in the Valley and listen to a description of how they could not drive without their headlights in the day, due to the smog, several decades ago.
Gee I really don’t know. Let me ask my frends Sanford and Son.
So how does one then explain the intentional homicide rate of numerous African countries being LOWER than that of the US? Take, for example, Niger.
The answer, of course, is CULTURE, not COLOR. My Nigerian friends, are among the most educated population in the US. Their families are intact. Their sons are not going around gang banging and shooting people. In contrast, mainstream black underclass American CULTURE, is toxic. It’s an important distinction to understand. Not all American blacks are criminals — many are, because they are part of this culture. But many others have risen above it.
If??? If??? IF?????? It’s ILLEGAL to cross the border. 100% of Illegals are criminals! Why is this so difficult to understand? It’s gotta be the chemtrails destroying everyone’s brains.
I do not regard victimless crimes as a ‘crime problem’. People smoking pot at home (so long as they are not driving)? Not a ‘crime problem’. People engaging in prostitution? Not a ‘crime problem’. I could cite pages of other examples.
entire planet in order to control the weather and to create better bio-warfare weaponry. that’s chemtrails.
I work in a highly technical field. If atmospheric contamination were increasing, my colleagues would know it. Chemtrails are a conspiracy theory. Similarly, the pilots and aero engineers I know, would be aware of it if such a ‘thing’ were being performed on a large scale.
It’s really basic science. At the plants I’ve worked, we have large boilers. Out of the smoke stack, is a LONG trail. Most of it, on a cold day, is merely CONDENSED water vapor. The water is formed in the combustion of natural gas. This same condensation occurs at high altitudes. When hydrocarbons burn, they produce primarily water vapor and carbon dioxide. You will see these condensation trails even out of a boiler or furnace with a scrubber, because, even when you remove particulates and acid vapors, you STILL have water vapor exiting and it STILL condenses when it cools. The EXTENT of it will vary with humidity and temperature.
There are ‘realz’ and there are ‘feelz’.
Real: Hard data — objective reality.
Feelz: You don’t like me. So you need to insult those who disagree.
Address the points. DID China decollectivize agriculture? HOW do economists classify China’s economy?
White men are the benefactors of this country, and should be the beneficiaries. I am so tired of this self-loathing white male toxic masculinity crap.
Nobody should be a ‘beneficiary’ because of the color of their skin. I prefer meritocracy. This has nothing to do with ‘self-loathing’. I am all for hardworking whites, black, and hispanics and think ALL should be rewarded for hard work. The BENEFICIARIES should be the people doing the WORK. That is one reason I object so strenusouly to the high tax rates in the US.
Ask yourself how long a modern automobile lasts now, versus how long it lasted 60 years ago.
There you go again. What the F~~~ are you talking about? There’s probably a show in your town within the next three months showcasing CARS that have LASTED 60 years. You are silver spoons sheltered, you know nothing of the world. Listen to Allentown much? Iron and coal? Chromane and steel? Union workers? College Degrees taught us nothing at all? Have fun getting into an accident in today’s Toyota Camry today – you’ll end up a St. Judes getting two replacement legs. I guess you think those two massive factory explosions in TianJin last year that killed thousands is “efficiency” by the competitive “free-market” global economy.
You suggested cars did not LAST as long; I refuted it soundly. If you want to see the data in tabular form, Table Every decade car longevity increases several years and it’s been going on for decades…
Collector cars, preserved in garages, have NOTHING to do with average vehicle life expectancy, which has risen several years in each of the past several decades. PART of this is due to lubrication science — much better oil — but CNC machining and quality control have an impact as well.
But, it is ALSO true, that driving an OLDER car results in 71% more fatalities for 18 years or older vehicles. Link — While more metal is good, modern cars are designed to crumple, and airbags save lives. That said, you’re most safe in modern, large vehicle, in my opinion.
Competition among countries does not by any means promote efficiency, because the playing fields are incomparable.
It makes no difference whether competition is WITHIN a country or BETWEEN countries, it still promotes efficiency. In my private sector job, I purchase hundreds of thousands of dollars of goods and services a year. I can attest, for those machines and parts for which there are MULTIPLE competitors (suppliers), I pay far LESS than those for which there are few choices. It’s that simple. If we pay less for inputs, our output (product) costs less. That is the very DEFINITION of efficiency.
There are ‘realz’ and there are ‘feelz’.
Real: Hard data — objective reality.
Feelz: You don’t like me. So you need to insult those who disagree.
Address the points. DID China decollectivize agriculture? HOW do economists classify China’s economy? HOW has this economy changed in the last 50-60 years?
White men are the benefactors of this country, and should be the beneficiaries. I am so tired of this self-loathing white male toxic masculinity crap.
Nobody should be a ‘beneficiary’ because of the color of their skin. I prefer meritocracy. This has nothing to do with ‘self-loathing’. I am all for hardworking whites, black, and hispanics and think ALL should be rewarded for hard work. The BENEFICIARIES should be the people doing the WORK. That is one reason I object so strenusouly to the high tax rates in the US.
Ask yourself how long a modern automobile lasts now, versus how long it lasted 60 years ago.
There you go again. What the F~~~ are you talking about? There’s probably a show in your town within the next three months showcasing CARS that have LASTED 60 years. You are silver spoons sheltered, you know nothing of the world. Listen to Allentown much? Iron and coal? Chromane and steel? Union workers? College Degrees taught us nothing at all? Have fun getting into an accident in today’s Toyota Camry today – you’ll end up a St. Judes getting two replacement legs. I guess you think those two massive factory explosions in TianJin last year that killed thousands is “efficiency” by the competitive “free-market” global economy.
You suggested cars did not LAST as long; I refuted it soundly. If you want to see the data in tabular form, Table Every decade car longevity increases several years and it’s been going on for decades…
Collector cars, preserved in garages, have NOTHING to do with average vehicle life expectancy, which has risen several years in each of the past several decades. PART of this is due to lubrication science — much better oil — but CNC machining and quality control have an impact as well.
But, it is ALSO true, that driving an OLDER car results in 71% more fatalities for 18 years or older vehicles. Link — While more metal is good, modern cars are designed to crumple, and airbags save lives.
Competition among countries does not by any means promote efficiency, because the playing fields are incomparable.
It makes no difference whether competition is WITHIN a country or BETWEEN countries, it still promotes efficiency. In my private sector job, I purchase hundreds of thousands of dollars of goods and services a year. I can attest, for those machines and parts for which there are MULTIPLE competitors (suppliers), I pay far LESS than those for which there are few choices. It’s that simple. If we pay less for inputs, our output (product) costs less. That is the very DEFINITION of efficiency.
post a cogent argument.
I am full of cogent arguments. If my cogency falls on deaf ears, that’s not my fault.
Education is good.
No. Education is not “good”. Education is Education. It is neither good nor bad. If you educate a good person, then the education is used for good. If you educate an evil person, then you get the unibomber. A girl who rips apart daddy long legs or harms animals should most definitely NOT be educated. The world needs prostitutes and ditch-diggers, ya know.
But like I said, all you ever do is spew out what the public schools taught you. You’ve never had an original thought of your own, but as you said
They fail to teach personal finance/money management, vocational skills, and critical thinking.
The reason schools spend decades teaching that “Education is good” is because that’s what they’re selling. If you’re a boat salesman, boats are “good”, whether or not the buyer can swim.
Education is not “good”. Education is education, and converts to either good or evil based on how it is wielded by the person who receives it. If you educate an evil person, you end up with an educated evil person, who now has the means to carry out great societal destruction.
I do not regard victimless crimes as a ‘crime problem’. People smoking pot at home
Your mixing apples and oranges. You’re a libertarian who believes in open borders. I was a libertarian before I learned about the real world and how it works.
I work in a highly technical field.
And I don’t?
That is not a cogent argument. That is an argument from personal experience, and is as useless as a meatball at a sushi convention. Arguments from personal experience are nothing short of admission that you have lost a debate.
Chemtrails are a conspiracy theory.
I GAVE you the three NAMES of the people who are ON CAMERA admitting they are doing it. The government ADMITS they are chemtrailing. Go to YOUTUBE and spend five minutes watching them. You’re just LAZY. I can lead a horse to Youtube, but I can’t make him think. You are most definitely a product of the public education schools.
If you know nothing about a subject, you shouldn’t be trying to convince people at it. At least open your mind and do the minimal research.
You can see the chemtrails. You can taste the chemtrails. You can smell the chemtrails. Just look up, and gain the minimal amount of awareness that God gave you.
The first thing Trump did as president was board a chemtrail plane, and there’s a picture of it, which is why big Brnnean came out swinging at Trump from the get go. Chemtrails are John’s baby, which he ADMITS on camera while delivering a speech to the See Eye Aye. Watch “What in the World are they spraying”, where the politicians are directly confronted with it on camera, and watch how they react. All these politicians are probably heavily invested in chemtrails and are making a killing off of it. It’s all out. The secret is out. It’s just not on CNN so you didn’t get the memo.
I suppose you believe we landed on the moon too, right? Despite that NASA now admits the moon landing videos were faked, and that they don’t have the technology to go to the moon, and that, oh yeah, it’s IMPOSSIBLE to go to the moon due to the radiation exposure, which they admit on their OWN website.
I am guessing you also believe China, the people who don’t know how to use a toilet, landed on the far side of the moon too right? And that Russia made the world’s greatest AI robot that wasn’t just a man in a robot suit.
You are the sheeple, Frank.
Anytime someone uses the phrase “conspiracy theory” I am out. There is no point arguing with the unwashed masses. You have swallowed one red-pill – MGTOW. That’s it. I commend you for that. Now go back into your comfortable bubble. Nothing to see here.
I don’t have time for the rest of this leftist brainwash garbage. You’re not ready for real truth. Most homo sapiens aren’t. I shouldn’t get upset.
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