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The forum doesn’t take my long answer, so I’ll have to devide it up in several posts:
I am really stoked for all these great thoughts you all posted. I actually did choose the topic line to be a little provocative, because I do apreciate controversity. I really hope, that moving this thread to the litter box doesn’t kill the discussion. @the guys who pushed the button: It’s your hands that stink like fish. It’s not me. BTW: Huevon is just what me and my mates used to call each other during my time in Costa Rica.
don’t expect a guy to want to put a ring on if when he finds out.
Men are naturally disgusted by promiscuous women,
Yes, and I do believe, that it’s for a good reason. I believe, that that is because men are trying to make sure that the women they get with gives birth to his own children. If she is a slut, the man ends up putting his resources into someone elses kids, so I do believe you are right. This is a natural instinct.
the very words “slut-shaming” are feminist in nature.
Just because you stick feathers up your ass, you are not a chicken, and just because I use those words, I don’t like feminism.
It seems that your “need” is for “golden vagina.”
It sure is. Actually this is all I want from them by now.
Sounds like you’re trying to “game the system.”
If you wanna call it that, as long as you don’t showe me into that droor of PUAs, it’s allright with me. I do behave strategic with women, and I enjoy how easy it is to push their buttons. It’s just a component that makes me enjoy life. I do share your criticism of PUAs padding their back though. I believe that many of them strongly rely on women’s confirmation. On a spiritual level they are not strong.
I do understand that you are more abstinent from women than I.
I am curious about your affinity to defend slutty behavior as the quote above was from yourself in similar vein in AMY SCHUMER PRESENTS C~~~ CAROUSEL: THE MOVIE thread. I can understand your viewpoint on women’s freedom to pick and choose their sexuality. I just don’t see how approval of slutty behavior from men here could serve any purpose. It seems that you would want us to embrace women’s slutty behavior when in reality (I speak for myself) part of my decision to go my own way was precisely because their lose morals was not in line what I had been made to believe as child growing up: To be the nice, gentleman who caters to feminine needs and desires because their love and affection is worthy of it. Only to look around and see her bending over for some ‘alpha bad ass’. Despising sluts for their double standards is quite common for mgtows.
Concerning men’s influence on women:
8 Years ago I was sitting in the cafeteria wit working colleages. One of them started talking about how he felt this one colleage was dressing “too cheap”. When I replied “Yeah, I hate it too, when women show cleavage”, He smiled, like I had caught him.
Look at latin dancing on youtube. It’s the woman who looks hot, but the man does all the work. Noone sees him. But with his work, any woman can look hot, when he leads her. I do believe, that women react strongly to what men say. Women are insecure. They always want resecuration from us.
“Huevon” also means in Spanish (at least in my country) two differents things: a lazy man… and a mangina…
This clip is from a funny tv series, very famous in Spain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPyB3QU8U4w
They ask every time a man have a weak temper (Especially with women):
¿Que somos: leones o huevones? (What we are: lions or manginas?)
So, i’m quite new to detect trolls… but i really hope you are not longer a “huevon” in your real life… neither a Woman…
Just saying…
when in reality (I speak for myself) part of my decision to go my own way was precisely because their lose morals was not in line what I had been made to believe as child growing up: To be the nice, gentleman who caters to feminine needs and desires because their love and affection is worthy of it.
So now I do get curious in return, if you still believe so? I for my part don’t anymore. Our mother loves us and is really sacrificing. So we get to believe women are angels. Then we grow up, and get with a woman. When it’s too late we realize, that this woman is just like our mom. The problem is that we are not her son. We are her husband and provider, who gets kicked around. And this sux.
So what are you gonna do? Disgard the lies you were told about women, or disgard the woman herself?
Great post. The sources of my evolutionary theories are my own observations. You have understood me right. I actually do believe, that many young women are like a bitch on heat, and I also do share your observations of insecure women. I just came to a different conclusion than you. And maybe you still have something in your heart, that got ripped out of mine: You are still willing to check a background and integrity. I gave up on that.
@Huevon Dude Please. This should not have to be explained to you like you never thought about it before. Huevon wrote: ….. women have a much higher investment into their offspring then men. Women are pregnant for 9 months and then raise the kids many years. Men olny need to invest a few minutes to impregnate a woman.
Come on! quote me right! what are those words missing in the beginning??? I wrote:
Now in nature, without our state with all it’s laws, women have a much higher investment into their offspring then men.
So my answer is: No. Of course you don’t have to explain that again. But I give you credit for being so kind to do it anyways.
It’s the sluts who pretend they are NOT sluts….. who are the problem.
I get your point that sluts in relationships are a drag to their men. I understand that you like to shame em. Go ahead. It does not even effect me in any way, because I don’t buy into relationships anymore. But that’s not because my woman could suck foreign c~~~s. It’s rather because she steals my life. Actually I would prefer a slut GF, as long as she just leaves me alone, with anything but sex.
@BadKan when I read your posts, I finally understand, why KeyMaster got me wrong too. You guys don’t get, what I’m trying to say, and maybe I should have articulated it more precisely. In my thoughts I differentiate between Instincts+feelings, that where developed throughout evolution, and the System we live in today. Our biological evolution is way behind the evolution of the system we live in. And this basically creates all the mess that we are in. And you are explaining that system, and how everything goes wrong.
Just what is the solution?
I feel that we men are on the loosing end in relationships as well. I am not trying to justify womens behavior, nor am I speaking for their interest. At this point I give a flying f~~~ about women’s interest. I speak for myself. that’s all.
And maybe the fact that I speak for myself is the explanation why I like sluts. I do belong to the 20% who get pussy. I just wasn’t aware that there are 80% who don’t. It’s just consequent, that those 80% don’t provide any resources to those women. Why should they? I wouldn’t either. And it’s quite natural that those 80% wish back the times where a woman gave monogamy in exchange for a male provider.
And if you are willing to go out of your way just to get pussy, like throwing other men under the bus by trying to get them to lower their standards so you can have your fix, then you are not a Mgtow either.
Well you pinpointed it. I sacrificed my way in my last relationship. When I realized that, I initiated a breakup.
Hell, this whole idea is assuming that the ONLY reason a MAN would get together with a WOMAN is because of sex.
Actually, I do believe that relationships between men and women are all about reproduction. So that would be an extension of the term “sex”. In that context I would actually agree.
If women want to walk beside me, they are welcome, But I am NOT dragging their asses anymore.
I just don’t believe that women do that. You know what I experienced? What I see? Here in posts and in relationships around me? With my ex girls? Basically all I see is that Children exploit the resources of a woman, and the woman exploits the resources of a man. To do so, women separate us from family and friends. Thus making us emotionally addicted. They make us be monogamous, to get us sexually addicted. And when they got us, they eat us up like a praying mathis. To feed their children. They often do that unconsciously, so I don’t blame em. Just I don’t expect them to walk beside me anymore.
After all, it appears to me that many MGTOWs blame sluts, because they have not lost faith in love.
That makes me kinda jealous, because I miss that thrill. But I don’t see any way back.
I swallowed my own red pill.
Interesting discussion.
Shaming implies judging. Who am I to judge? Only God can judge them.
I am just slowly shaking my head in disbelief. But I don’t blame them. The’re the victims of their nature multiplied by social programming – deliberate or accidental. I simply stay away.As far as calling sluts “sluts”, Snoop Dogg said it the best:
So they blamin’ me, sayin’ this my talk
to some women as hoes, like it’s my fault
Damn they lost, man they just don’t know
That a bitch is a bitch, and a hoe is a hoe
Let them heaters c~~~ and let them leaders talk
I’m gon’ be smokin’ dank, livin’ like a bossP.S.: One more thing – I remembered a story. Here it goes.
A slut is on an ocean liner going somewhere, when suddenly ship hits something and starts to sink.
She falls on her knees with a prayer: “Dear God, I know I’ve been bad – I lied and cheated all my life, and maybe I deserve this; but what about all the other passengers on this ship? All these innocent souls. What did they do wrong? How can you be so cruel to them? Please save us?”
Skies open up and a voice says: “Hah! NO! You’re not getting out of this one. I’ve been gathering all you sluts together on one ship for many years now – and finally my plans came to fruition – all of you bitches are going down! Bwa-ha-ha”proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
What does a promiscuous woman bring to the table that’s not an STD?
"You can keep your soul, I don't want a cell-mate." - Them Crooked Vultures
Anonymous0Hollowmile wrote: I am curious about your affinity to defend slutty behavior as the quote above was from yourself in similar vein in AMY SCHUMER PRESENTS C~~~ CAROUSEL: THE MOVIE thread. I can understand your viewpoint on women’s freedom to pick and choose their sexuality. I just don’t see how approval of slutty behavior from men here could serve any purpose. It seems that you would want us to embrace women’s slutty behavior when in reality (I speak for myself) part of my decision to go my own way was precisely because their lose morals was not in line what I had been made to believe as child growing up: To be the nice, gentleman who caters to feminine needs and desires because their love and affection is worthy of it. Only to look around and see her bending over for some ‘alpha bad ass’. Despising sluts for their double standards is quite common for mgtows.
Hollowmile wrote: when in reality (I speak for myself) part of my decision to go my own way was precisely because their lose morals was not in line what I had been made to believe as child growing up: To be the nice, gentleman who caters to feminine needs and desires because their love and affection is worthy of it.
I did not write this. iLearn wrote this. No need to adorn me with borrowed plumes
Once again, the question: Are you a woman?
I did not write this. iLearn wrote this. No need to adorn me with borrowed plumes Once again, the question: Are you a woman?
And I’m going to have to second that notion Hollowmile. I’ve read this entire thread, and I’m starting to smell catfish…
Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...
agree; however, he should also do a background check on credit and work history. I wish I had done that with my previous ex. I didn’t really learn her true colors until we were living together, which included p~~~ poor personal financial management (and her credit score reflected this), incomplete education pursuits and many transient jobs. And guess what? All those traits continued during our relationship.
It seems all of the above are common negative attributes of promiscuous women. It shouldn’t be a surprise though, it is just an ongoing pattern of constant and regular poor life choices and drama. I made the mistake of taking one of these types of women seriously. I paid a huge price for my lack of good judgment and the courts just rammed the pain and suffering in harder. They made certain I’d never forget!!!!
“Success in life is the result of good judgment. Good judgment is usually the result of experience. Experience is usually the result of bad judgment.”
― Anthony Robbins
I’m exhausted from this thread. I’m confused, feel beat down and just want the f~~~ away from it.
A familiar feeling …. as I had just before my divorce.
There is only one reason why I feel this way……
Can you guess?
KeyMaster got me wrong too. You guys don’t get, what I’m trying to say, and maybe I should have articulated it more precisely.
I did read beyond your initial post and then it became clear that you HAD been trying to make a point another way. Roger that loud and clear. I will remove the first line in my comment suggesting you hadn’t thought about it more carefully. Absolutely understand.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.@LiveAgain
I’m exhausted from this thread. I’m confused, feel beat down and just want the f~~~ away from it. A familiar feeling …. as I had just before my divorce. There is only one reason why I feel this way…… Can you guess?
Because there’s a very strong possibility that a women has been involved in this total madness 😉 ?
Anonymous0And I’m going to have to second that notion
Hi Binary Logic, thanks.
it is the classical feminine “divide et impera” game. Women love to do this with men, I never, NEVER, neither here nor in real life let this work. I support men and confront women with their stinky attitudes.
I salute all real and honest MGTOWs.Have a nice Day/Night pals, wherever you are in this world.
I do belong to the 20% who get pussy. I just wasn’t aware that there are 80% who don’t.
Don’t forget those who “can get” it.. but don’t WANT it or care if they don’t. That population is growing FAST. There is no trick to “getting pussy” it’s available to EVERY man for far less effort, trouble, energy, investment and time than women would want you to believe. We can all order it like pizza – tonight. Made to order.
I do belong to the 20% who get pussy. I just wasn’t aware that there are 80% who don’t.
That 80% applies to married men. but you’re being generous. It’s higher than that. Ask the next 100 married men if they are getting the trim they thought they were signing up for. More than 80 of them will Lol.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.ive never cared for pussy as a goal. finding a good women to build something has always been my main concern. sex and such was just a eventual step after finding that person. Guess what cause most women you find this days are the kind of sluts you care so much to keep , and im not a alpha , more like the beta provider they want to have later on their lives, it has made for me impossible to find a single good decent women in the past 10 years for a Relationship. This society created sluts that are not compatible with any serious Relationship.Thats why im a mgtow. i saw how women this days are appaling to see,I wouldnt want such women even if they were free… I refuse to be a provider to some 30 year old slut that rode more alpha c~~~s then a street Hooker. Why would i want to commit or build anything with a slut? i have no problem in shaming them if i have to. such women are a eyesore, and the reason why i had to choose a life of celibacy instead of building a family and be happy with a good women. I will never understand a mgtow with a PUA mentality. Its perpetuating and promoting whats wrong with women and why we gave up on them… Instead beeing clear to them about how their slutty life sux and how we dont want whores like that would be more helpfull. perhaps when anuff women will get shamed and anuff women will end up alone with cats old and sad , then they will realize their ways cant continue and perhaps the next générations wont have to make the hard decision we made…
Anonymous18I will never understand a mgtow with a PUA mentality. Its perpetuating and promoting whats wrong with women
I don’t trust guys who prescribe to pussy as a goal in life and use being mgtow as a delusion when they fail to score and then deceive themselves. They are sore losers.
Anonymous13Huevon wrote: that would mean we have to get into those vicious marriage contracts before we get any.
This can’t be our aim, can it? As I said, this is irrelevant. Even if we went back to this, I would still not marry. Hell, this whole idea is assuming that the ONLY reason a MAN would get together with a WOMAN is because of sex. And, if you read the comments, THAT IS EXACLY THE OPPOSITE. Men are walking away from women BECAUSE SEX IS THE ONLY THING THEY OFFER. If you are the kind of men that cannot live withour sex, or that is willing to ACTUALLY GET MARRIED just to get pussy, if this was the only way to get it, then I feel sorry for you. I? I am going my own way. If women want to walk beside me, they are welcome, But I am NOT dragging their asses anymore.
Shaming implies judging. Who am I to judge? Only God can judge them.
Word up! I don’t judge em either. But to quote Snoop once more “I don’t love them hoes”. I am seeing sluts in a very utilitaristic and hedonistic way. They started viewing us as utilities first, now it’s my turn.
Once again, the question: Are you a woman?
A fish/troll discussion is really a waste of time. It’s offtopic, and can’t be proven by typing. I’d be more than happy to talk on Skype to clear that out in a minute, maybe KeyMaster can do that job. But please let’s get over with that. I like to to debate. A polarising question is a great basis. Except all this fish/troll garbage, I find this thread to be on a good level.
And sorry for misquoting Hollowmile, the topic-ID gets pulled from where I push the button, not from the place where I marked the text. I will be more cautious in the future.
When I write “our” or “us”, I usually refer to men in general. Not even MGTOW.I’m exhausted from this thread. I’m confused, feel beat down and just want the f~~~ away from it.
Then you might just consider leaving this thread. You are the one that smells like fish to me. You know why? Because you didn’t really contribute much, but you keep complaning all the time. That’s fishy as hell. Do I think you are a fish because of that? No. Actually I don’t even care.
it is the classical feminine “divide et impera” game.
How can you divide a bunch of people who are going their own way anyways? Do I get you right, that you are here to read how someone else typed your own opinion? Wrong thread. Sorry.
You’re missing a critical piece here to the logic: it’s not MGTOW – it’s women who need slut shaming. ………. Less sluts = more wooing and effort from men. And what woman doesn’t want that?
This remark hits on the spot. Your’e a genious. Thanks for pointing that out. Slut-shaming is a game that helps women enforce their power upon us. It’s simple market theory. Slut-shaming lowers the pussy-supply. Lower the suply given the demand stays the same, and the price will rise.
I don’t slut shame, because I want Pussy to sell for what it’s worth. Which is nothing. And that’s MY own way.
@keymaster That video is hilarious. Best part: married couples in the audience who laugh their asses off.
@Admin Thanks for relocating this Thread.
Anonymous0How can you divide a bunch of people who are going their own way anyways? Do I get you right, that you are here to read how someone else typed your own opinion? Wrong thread. Sorry.
I did not speak about a “can” I talked about a game, it is a Trial.
Anyway, the “Hollowmile wrote” in your former post I mentinoed and I already answered is wrong, I did not wrote it.
Hollowmile wrote: Once again, the question: Are you a woman?
Huveon wrote: A fish/troll discussion is really a waste of time. It’s offtopic, and can’t be proven by typing. I’d be more than happy to talk on Skype to clear that out in a minute, maybe KeyMaster can do that job. But please let’s get over with that. I like to to debate. A polarising question is a great basis. Except all this fish/troll garbage, I find this thread to be on a good level.
And sorry for misquoting Hollowmile, the topic-ID gets pulled from where I push the button, not from the place where I marked the text. I will be more cautious in the future.
When I write “our” or “us”, I usually refer to men in general. Not even MGTOW.A yes or no would have been enough here, but my question is answered, thank you.
“Man up.”
“Grow up.”
“You can’t get laid.”
“You’re too short / ugly / fat / poor / whatever.”
“You’re selfish.”
“You’re just bitter.”
“You’re too negative.”
“You must hate women.”
“You have mental problems.”
“Are you gay or something?”
“You’re an extremist.”
“You’re afraid of strong women.”
“You’re just a primitive caveman.”
And the classic:
“You’re sexist. NAWALT! NAWALT! NAWALT!”And they think they can complain about so-called “slut-shaming”?
Seriously?
F~~~ them.
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