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“Instead we should shame them for expecting us to be their provider. I don’t expect them to pay my drinks either.”
Interesting.
Is it me going mad?
Huevon=
“in latin culture, a lazy man. a huevon is a person who is so lazy that his testicles drag on the ground. derived from the use of the spanish word huevos (eggs) as a slang word for testicles. A huevona is a the female equivalent, although a bit less true-to-form given the lack of a droopy b~~~~ack!”
I’m reading your posts and replies …. and there’s something about them. Something …… not quite …. on the money.
What can you tell me that will stop me hitting the tuna button?
Sluts deserve to be shamed.
Women on average have more STDs than men in the US.
With that being said, give your concern trolling a rest!
Anonymous18@huevon I’m reading your posts and replies …. and there’s something about them. Something …… not quite …. on the money. What can you tell me that will stop me hitting the tuna button?
I’m not writing this because I want to be white knighting. I’m far off from that. My concern is: MGTOW people talk so negative about sluts. MGTOW is changing Society. Do we really want to push women to hold back their golden vaginas even more? That would mean we have to get into those vicious marriage contracts before we get any. This can’t be our aim, can it? *voting for more sluts*
@huevon I am curious about your affinity to defend slutty behavior as the quote above was from yourself in similar vein in AMY SCHUMER PRESENTS C~~~ CAROUSEL: THE MOVIE thread.
I can understand your viewpoint on women’s freedom to pick and choose their sexuality. I just don’t see how approval of slutty behavior from men here could serve any purpose. It seems that you would want us to embrace women’s slutty behavior when in reality (I speak for myself) part of my decision to go my own way was precisely because their lose morals was not in line what I had been made to believe as child growing up: To be the nice, gentleman who caters to feminine needs and desires because their love and affection is worthy of it. Only to look around and see her bending over for some ‘alpha bad ass’. Despising sluts for their double standards is quite common for mgtows.
Anonymous0Huevon= “in latin culture, a lazy man. a huevon is a person who is so lazy that his testicles drag on the ground. derived from the use of the spanish word huevos (eggs) as a slang word for testicles. A huevona is a the female equivalent, although a bit less true-to-form given the lack of a droopy b~~~~ack!”
I also found that. Huevon means in spanish gawk, spastic, mongo but for the Young men in Chile and Peru it is like pal.
oje huevon vamos = hey pal, let’s go
If the price went down then they’d just pass laws to bring the price back up.
Anonymous13“Patriarchy” is a myth. Always has been. It’s a boogieman cooked up by feminists to excuse their greed and excess. Outside the context of a family the word doesn’t even make any sense.
“outside the context of a family the word doesn’t even make any sense” WELL SAID, great words very true my brother.
I would say outside the context of people being born in a family – the world will began to not make any sense – it means the village will raise the child – the village. Think about that. I think a lot of mgtows actually believe that you and I aren’t special – we are ants, cyborgs, what you believe doesn’t matter you will be assimilated – it is the collective that matters. Its a fatal mistake that will take society down the path to totalitarianism – a brave new world of 1984 proportions. “So you like your social Darwinism – you can keep it.” It will be either idiocracy or a brave new world – either way – were kind of f~~~ed – its a paradox. Meanwhile – all you can do is educate yourself – prepare yourself – try to prepare others – STAY away from the courts – stay away from credit card debt – stay away from slutty women – and if you have kids either try to raise them FULLY or don’t raise them at all – your influence will be little and a waste of time where you could be making money – money that may help them in the future, realize their mother’s were selfish sluts and a product a f~~~ed up society.
Patriarchy is only a myth because it can be opposed and/or compared to nothing. (i.e it has no “real” opposition)
But in our day of modern tech, luxuries, social safety welfare nets, white knights, and politically correctness. You bet your ass it does, its called patriarchy versus socialist matriarchy. I can’t just go and get my kids guns a blazin and literally take my own kids back (which historically would be normal)…so, you tell me what it is that socio-political and economic western civilization is being forced into? What would you call it?
Well, sorry for the rant – its cathartic
Anonymous3MGTOW is against feminism, and the whole idea, the very words “slut-shaming” are feminist in nature.
MGTOW should never be supporting feminism and doing feminist’s work for them. The whole idea of MGTOW is to do your own thing and not be an activist. We aren’t activists for men’s rights, but you want us to work for the feminists?
The reasons feminists hate “slut-shaming” so much is if you don’t convince men to abandon their natural disgust for promiscuous women, you lose the ability to pair up beta males with damaged post-wall carousel riders and give them male resources. The men probably go MGTOW because they are disgusted and realize how bad that deal is.
You convince men that they shouldn’t “slut-shame” and should ignore a woman’s sexual history and all that, you get the blue pill beta marriage.
I can’t fathom why anybody on this site would argue that we should urge men to become blue pill and get married. Men are naturally disgusted by promiscuous women, it is designed that way by nature and by God. It is a warning to men. To abandon that warning is foolhardy, trusting your male instincts is a good idea a lot of the time.
And anyway, the audience for MGTOW posts and videos and such isn’t women in the first place. How can we “shame” women when we don’t even write or speak for them? They shouldn’t be reading or viewing our stuff in the first place, and the message is certainly not designed for their benefit.
Anonymous0For my part, I am really happy that women tend to get more slutty. Using condoms is the key here.What about you? Do we really want to push women to hold back their golden vaginas even more? That would mean we have to get into those vicious marriage contracts before we get any. This can’t be our aim, can it?
Sounds like you’re trying to “game the system.”
You take a bunch of evolutionary psychology theories to explain natural behavior, look at how social rules and marriage laws have altered that behavior, and then come up with some strategies (“stop the slut-shaming”) for improving the odds that you’ll get some of that “golden vagina.”
But for me personally, I’m not looking for “golden vagina.” I just want the feminists and their allies to quit busting my b~~~~, no matter whether it’s on message boards, in society, in the legal system, etc.
As others have pointed out: Women are going to do what the f~~~ they want. To keep them from steamrolling over me (as they have done in the past), I’m going to push back, cordon off a space where they can’t enter, and abuse them till they leave me the f~~~ alone.
I’m not into all this “golden vagina” talk. That sounds like PUA talk to me. Pussy is easy to come by; go play the PUA game if you want even more. But I don’t want to listen to their s~~~, pat them on the back, and pretend that their vaginas are “golden.”
To sum up: It’s in the title of your thread “Does this really fit our needs.” It seems that your “need” is for “golden vagina.” But my “need” is different. It’s easy to get pussy; what I really need is for women to quit busting my b~~~~.
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They can even be a land whale. I’ve seen it so many times. Women are the real shamers of other women. Men with the real knowledge don’t give a f~~~. I envision a slut as a woman out there spreading her legs for every guy. Guys just looking to get laid will f~~~ that girl and then move on. No dude wants a wife or girlfriend that has had c~~~ from the guy in the cubicle across from you. It’s the unintended consequence of feminist sexual liberation. I think men want to at least imaging their partners as virtuous, and only freaky with them. Yeah we know its not true, but as long as we don’t hear anything to the contrary, it’s all good. I once worked with a guy who thought it was super impressive that he “trained” his new girlfriend to always swallow, no matter what sexual act they were doing. She would get upset if she couldn’t get to it in time. I tried to explain to him that he didn’t teach his new girl this trick, she learned it from other dicks. After a bit of digging, he found out that this girl had been gangbanged and bukkaked several times and a few guys that he actually knew. so while there is nothing wrong with letting 10 guys f~~~ you and cum on your face simultaneously, don’t expect a guy to want to put a ring on if when he finds out.
Anonymous13TwoStep, pheonix, Zeberi Tau, ILiveAgain, ILearn; Good posts.
Men are naturally disgusted by promiscuous women, it is designed that way by nature and by God. It is a warning to men. To abandon that warning is foolhardy, trusting your male instincts is a good idea a lot of the time.
It seems that you would want us to embrace women’s slutty behavior when in reality (I speak for myself) part of my decision to go my own way was precisely because their lose morals was not in line what I had been made to believe as child growing up: To be the nice, gentleman who caters to feminine needs and desires because their love and affection is worthy of it. Only to look around and see her bending over for some ‘alpha bad ass’. Despising sluts for their double standards is quite common for mgtows.
in the title of your thread “Does this really fit our needs.” It seems that your “need” is for “golden vagina.” But my “need” is different. It’s easy to get pussy; what I really need is for women to quit busting my b~~~~.
This whole thread reads like it is written by a woman!
When women are younger and more sexually attractive, they tend to jump from alpha to alpha on their quest to gene shop. When they get older they tend to bond closer with a provider type of man, that they try to push into a supporting position
A serious issue with forums in general, is that a lot of information supply by individuals is unreferenced and uninformed information. As a matter of fact, a lot of “information” supplied is full of complete misinformation.
Humans are typically driven to act in various ways due to various variables. These variables involve, personal belief systems, value systems, family history and influences, self esteem, intelligence, cultural and social backgrounds and a whole host of other factors. Generally, humans are not “hard wired’ animals that act out on survival and instinct. There are hundreds of books and papers written on this topic.
To state that women, typically act sexually on pure evolutionary and instinctual impulses is far worse than slut-shaming. It is basically stating that most (young) women are no better than a bitch on heat!
From what I’ve read, experienced and observed. Many if not most promiscuous women tend to show certain characteristics involving, low self worth and esteem, make consistent and regular poor life choices, show signs of self abuse (excessive alcohol and drug usage), dysfunctional behaviour and a whole host of other psychological and behavioural tenancies. Generally, people with a healthy and high self esteem tend to respect themselves and don’t treat themselves like an amusement park.
Unfortunately inexperience, uninformed, naive and really “nice guys” who deserve far better. Tend to end up with a promiscuous women and sadly many of them end up in a personal relationship of pain and suffering, caused by an inappropriate female. In many cases, the male is completely unaware of the woman past promiscuous sexual behaviour and once it is revealed is devastating to them.
Just like a financial institution ascertains a persons credit history before lending money,
Just like an employer ascertains a persons previous educational and work history background,
So a male should check and ascertain a females past sexual background, as it is a direct indication of her level of integrity!
….. women have a much higher investment into their offspring then men. Women are pregnant for 9 months and then raise the kids many years. Men olny need to invest a few minutes to impregnate a woman.
She carries the fetus for 9 months, and 5 of them are little effort. She can get fat. Be totally lazy. Eat chocolate cake and potato chips and even if she doesn’t do a damn thing, that kid is coming anyway. MEN carry a minimum 216 monthly payments – even for kids that aren’t their own. If it’s not the guy who she spread her legs for… it’s going to be her poor boyfriend or husband who she lied to.
There is NOT ONE woman alive who is paying 216 monthly payments to a man or a child that’s not even hers.
Not. One.
Men are FAR more invested in children, because ONLY men pay for (and support) kids that are not their own. DNA test results reveal as many as 30% of all babies born in the US don’t have the father they THINK they do. The number is probably much higher because that includes women who will agree to a test. Women vote for laws to be able to drop off their unwanted babies (and parental responsibilities) at the fire station with no questions asked. A man has no such right, even if he is not the father. Don’t ever pretend that “women are more invested in their spawn” s~~~ again.
• 3500 abortions a day in the United States.
• 50 MILLION Since 1975 alone.
• ONE BILLION WORLDWIDE.And women are more invested? Women don’t even want to pay for their own abortions.
Now if we go ahead shaming women for being sexually active and call them names like “cum dumpster”, it will create a pressure on women to be less sexually active. This will result in women being less active and us having less pussy in the long run. For my part, I am really happy that women tend to get more slutty. Using condoms is the key here.What about you? Do we really want to push women to hold back their golden vaginas even more? That would mean we have to get into those vicious marriage contracts before we get any. This can’t be our aim, can it?
This stance on slut-shaming I can understand. But I don’t shame sluts because they put out for free.
I shame the sluts who pretend they are not sluts.Men actually have a certain enjoyment and respect for sluts. What needs to be shamed are the sluts who want “a relationship” or marriage from one man who they don’t put out for – and all the benefits and devotion that goes with it – while spreading her legs for his best friend for FREE. Sluts are not a problem. It’s the sluts who pretend they are NOT sluts….. who are the problem.
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If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Does slut-shaming fit our needs?
Nothing related or coming from a woman fulfills any my needs.
Except when my mother/grandmother took care of me as a child.
The others can get the f~~~ out of my life.It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.
Just like a financial institution ascertains a persons credit history before lending money,
Just like an employer ascertains a persons previous educational and work history background,
So a male should check and ascertain a females past sexual background, as it is a direct indication of her level of integrity!
I agree; however, he should also do a background check on credit and work history. I wish I had done that with my previous ex. I didn’t really learn her true colors until we were living together, which included p~~~ poor personal financial management (and her credit score reflected this), incomplete education pursuits and many transient jobs. And guess what? All those traits continued during our relationship.
This stance on slut-shaming I can understand. But I don’t shame sluts because they put out for free. I shame the sluts who pretend they are not sluts.
I agree with this. And you gotta love Tom Leykis!
Anonymous1So, if I understood correctly, we shouldn’t hold standards for women, according to OP, is that corrrect?
Forgive me for posting here without reading every reply. I only got the OP, and I would comment on that. If I am repeating what has been already said, diregard this post.
Let us begin:
In several Youtube videos, as well as in this forum, I repeatedly find posts arguing in a manner that uses shaming language for women who have many changing sex partners.
So, we are calling sluts… sluts. What is the matter calling a spade a spade?
I have strong concerns that this might lead into a direction that does not suit our needs that good. I would appreciate your opinions about this, but please do me a favor and read what my concern is all about:
Fair enough, present your points.
As a matter or fact mother nature has implemented a sexual bahavior into our minds. In nature, nobody really knows who is the father.
Let me stop right there. Although I do believe we can learn a great deal observing our close relatives in the animal kingdom, and I do think humans are animals as other animals in nature, ignoring what differenciate us from other animals should be also part of your analisis when doing such comparison. The main difference between us and other animals is pretty obvious: technology. And with said technology, we CAN tell who the father is. That bein said, carry on.
Now in nature, without our state with all it’s laws, women have a much higher investment into their offspring then men. Women are pregnant for 9 months and then raise the kids many years. Men olny need to invest a few minutes to impregnate a woman.
Once again: bulls~~~. Where do you live? Are you in a jungle? Do you have to fight the elements to survive? No? You are cherry picking. You are taking the elements from animals in the wild and comparing them to humans, when humans DON’T live in the wild anymore. The “higher investment” women used to have when getting pregnant is all but gone. TECHNOLOGY made delivery extremely safe for women. Not only that, but with the modern utensils we have nowadays (not mentioning all the social services available ONLY TO WOMEN) raising a child in the modern world is not an investment for women anymore. So, as I said to other members before you, you can leave the caves/jungles now, come to the city. We have eletricity and running water here.
When women are younger and more sexually attractive, they tend to jump from alpha to alpha on their quest to gene shop.
a.k.a being a slut. Go on.
When they get older they tend to bond closer with a provider type of man, that they try to push into a supporting position.
And that is THEIR problem. I am failing to see why men should care. She makes poor decision when young by using men as sex toys and try to compensate on an older age by trying to use men as a tool for provision. Your point being?
In a natural environment, women would have kids by the time they bond with a provider.
And that is f~~~ed up! She would make a men care and sustain her and the chld she has with ANOTHER men, at the expense of the PROVIDER’s LIFE. I don’t know about you, but I don’t like to be used, specially on that way. Still failing to see why should I care about sluts. If anything, you are making a great point for celibacy.
In our days they use birth control, and often don’t bring offspring to the table when they get into the “marrying-age”.
Which, again, is HER PROBLEM. You are disregarding the men perspective COMPLETLY. You have put men on this box of “walking sperm donors machine”. So far, you made the arguments on how a woman (female) acts REGARDLESS of the wants and needs of the males. So, once more, if she does all that without giving a F~~~ about the men’s position, feelling, wants, needs, why, in the nine hells, should men WORRY about not calling a SLUT… SLUT?
Because outside of our current sociological system, impregnating a female just takes a man a few minutes, evolution has implemented a sexuality into us men that pushes us towards spreading our genes across as many women as possible.
Talk about yourself. If anything, what I am seeing on mgtow comunities is that MALES are the ones wanting pair bonding. Even the so called Alpha ones. If that was the case, mgtow would be INFINITALY smaller then it is. Men would be going all the way with poligamy. And yet, from the articles I have seen, everytime a “couple” tries that, more often than not, it is THE MAN that end up the relationship. Even if this is somehow true, than I am the odd one, cause I would be more then satisfied with regular sex from ONE partner. But, as you previously stated: “When women are younger and more sexually attractive, they tend to jump from alpha to alpha on their quest to gene shop.” And if that is the case, they can F~~~ THEMSELVES, as far as I am concerned.
We also have the predisposition to tie to a woman that we are awaiting good offspring from, which would get us into the role of the male provider.
Doesn’t that contradict the point you JUST MADE, about men being the ones wanting to “spread their seed”? Make a decision! Are we polygamus? Or monogamus? We already estabilished that women are sluts, according to you.
So that’s our evolution given sexuality.
You say it as if evolution had reached its peak. It hasn’t. We are still evolving. And aparently, on this evolution, MEN DON’T LIKE SLUTS.
So, now came in the church and gave us marriage. And passed the rule “no sex before marriage”. That was the old rule.
Yes… and?
Then came birth controll, and women then started to have sex a lot. It was no problem, because no offspring evolved.
Bulls~~~. Once more, speak for yourself. If you want to be a cuckhold for you wife/girlfriend while she bangs other men, as long as she doesn’t get prgnant, be my guest. I do suspect though that not all men are willing to do the same. I am one of them. Again, if women want to f~~~ around, be my f~~~ing guest, just don’t expect me to approve this s~~~ty behavior. SPECIALLY when they have all the power when it comes to MATE SELECTION.
A slut is still a slut.
Now if we go ahead shaming women for being sexually active and call them names like “cum dumpster”, it will create a pressure on women to be less sexually active.
And that is bad how? 80% of women are already f~~~ing 20% of men. So 80% of men are already not “benefiting” from all this “sexual liberation” from women. Besides, even the 20% of men that are getting lucky are not getting some for doing nothing! They probaly were lucky (good genetics) AND work hard to get where they are. Or they are the f~~~ing bad boys. Either way, the decision to sleep with these man are still a WOMAN’S decision! Should we now be responsible for their BAD DECISIONS of being WHORES for FREE? F~~~ no. They do the bad decision, they suffer the consequences. It is like that with men, why should it not be with women?
This will result in women being less active and us having less pussy in the long run.
Fear mongering? There is porn, there are hookers, there are other stuff you can do. Less pussy on the long run would just worry you if you were a pussy beggar. What men need is a release, that’s for sure. But that can be achieved in a number of ways. And, honestly, if women want to be whores, that is their problem. Just don’t expect men to PAIR BOND with women that WILLINGLY DEPRAVED THEMSELVES for not knowing how to make BETTER F~~~ING DECISIONS. Once again, missing your point on WHY SHOULD WE CARE?
For my part, I am really happy that women tend to get more slutty. Using condoms is the key here.
Good for you
What about you? Do we really want to push women to hold back their golden vaginas even more?
I dont care, since I try not to have as much sex, and on the rare occasions I do, is with hookers. And on the “golden vagina” aspect, there is nothing we can do. Women, either withholding or giving for free, should NOT have power over men just because pussy. That is one thing mgtow is walking away from. So in the end, if they want to be sluts, or want to do vows of castity, is irrelevant. Even because, either way, as I mentioned before, 80% of men will be left out anyway. And if you are willing to go out of your way just to get pussy, like throwing other men under the bus by trying to get them to lower their standards so you can have your fix, then you are not a Mgtow either.
hat would mean we have to get into those vicious marriage contracts before we get any. This can’t be our aim, can it?
As I said, this is irrelevant. Even if we went back to this, I would still not marry. Hell, this whole idea is assuming that the ONLY reason a MAN would get together with a WOMAN is because of sex. And, if you read the comments, THAT IS EXACLY THE OPPOSITE. Men are walking away from women BECAUSE SEX IS THE ONLY THING THEY OFFER. If you are the kind of men that cannot live withour sex, or that is willing to ACTUALLY GET MARRIED just to get pussy, if this was the only way to get it, then I feel sorry for you. I? I am going my own way.
If women want to walk beside me, they are welcome, But I am NOT dragging their asses anymore.
Cheers.
Huevon, why are you treating vagina like it’s the 8th wonder of the world and why are you calling it golden? You ever hear women talk like that about penises? F~~~ no. Women have no reason to listen to men as long as the line of simps and white knights are ever ready to bloat their ego and worship their precious golden calf…I mean pussy.
Huevon, why are you treating vagina like it’s the 8th wonder of the world and why are you calling it golden?
That’s just sarcasm. Women treat it, like it’s golden, by selling it for an extreme high prize. But in reality it’s just a snatch.
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