Not doing well guys

[FreedomParticipant 965]

We’ve all been there….you’re not alone.

Trust me…..one day the pain will be gone. You’re hitting rock bottom. The only way is up. It does go. I’ve been there and am now free. You will be too. Just hang in there.

She cheated on me ..... my fault. I showed an interest in another woman......my fault.

[Anonymous 3]

Billy,

I had this post written before and I lost it (mobile phone things), yet I care enough to write all again.

I would like to touch a point some have touched and somewhat contrary to popular opinion.

You feel responsible for your kids. However the law and your wife have taken away all your power regarding them.

This is a trap! They will use your sense of responsibility and your desire to be a good father to bully and extract from you.

In the short run it will make no difference, because they have taken away your kids and they will do what they want.

There is no such thing as being responsible without power. Therefore you are not responsible for anything. THEY HAVE TAKEN IT AWAY FROM YOU.

So, you must be strong and THINK ABOUT YOURSELF NOW.
Tell your kids that: dad cannot be with you because dad can go to jail.

But dont count on getting justice or fairness. Your wife has all the access to the kids, she WILL lie and deceive them.

Your kids probably are going to hate your guts. It hurts, and you cannot do anything about it.

Darksith Twist has spoken about this. He has told how he would try to stay in touch online, since he could not do it otherwise. He has told the answer from his daughter to a single fatherly support sentence:”stop stalking me.”

That must hurt. It stayed with me the profund injustice of it all.

Reflection On a Comment by Nonconformist

I am sorry for you. I hope it comes out different, but I doubt it. You might as well be prepared and count your kids gone for now.

Such is the evil of women and this society.

Be prepared for “the long game”. After years of rebuilding your life, in a sane masculine way, you will be the rock that your children can take shelter. Because eventually lies can be revealed, and evil shown.

The bottom line. Protect yoursel. Think on yourself. Your kids have been taken away. Dont get folled. The ones that had taken them have removed your responsibility from the issue.

Remember Spirit RR words. Be a machine.

[DiogenesParticipant 373]

Billy, everybody has given you good advice. I just want to add a few things that you might not have thought about.

1. No matter what she does to you or how you feel about it, do NOT speak negatively about her to your children when you talk to them. Parental alienation is a very big deal and the courts don’t take kindly to it. Explain what’s happening to them, only if they ask, in a way that is appropriate for their age but that lays no blame anywhere. The main thing is to reassure them that you love them and that everything is going be be alright.

2. You can be almost certain that you are not dealing only with her now. She probably has a consortium of allies (family, friends, lawyer) advising and supporting her. So, know that whatever you say or do will be taken back to them to be sifted for any advantage that she can get from it. What I am saying is: you are no longer dealing with her as you knew her, one-on-one. You are dealing with a hidden hive of enemies that has only her interests and goals in mind. Therefore, you must be very objective about what you think, feel, and do from this point forward.

3. The last thing. You must establish your own support network that is independent of her in every way to help keep you grounded. Do not try to deal with this all on your own. Internet boards are no substitute for the actual physical presence of rational people who love and support you. Those people are the antidote to the nightmare and confusion she wants to thrust you into.

In the end, you have to live in your own mind and not the mind she and her allies wish to create within you. It’s tough, but it’s doable. Best wishes. I’ve been there.

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

Stay strong man. Really sorry you are going through this.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Billy&The Cloneasaurus wrote:

I have assault charges pending from the ex. I’m not allowed to contact my kids, and I’m not sure what to do. I’ve never been in trouble with the law before, and it looks like I’m going to get a criminal record now.

Do you know that for sure. I think if you really keep your cool and keep pointing out you have no priors because you don’t act this way. Maybe hint at filing charges for false accusations. From here on in record and log everything. Hang in there.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Anonymous 3]

FrostByte wrote:

From here on in record and log everything. Hang in there.

^^^ Very important!

And dont have “talks” with her or anyone on her side. It can be used againt you.
Contact her only through your lawyer.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

First, you WILL see better days.

Don’t let the bastards get you down. I’ve been where you are.

Second, lawyer the hell up. You are in a battle. You can give up and die, or you can fight. I say fight. Some bitch comes after me with a DV charge had better have deep pockets. She knows she will be in the fight of her miserable life. Sue her into the next century.

Third, you are in training. Spend time at the gym. Eat right. Pray. Don’t drink a lot until you have won the battle.

I almost feel sorry for this bitch after you get through with her.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

First, you WILL see better days.

Don’t let the bastards get you down. I’ve been where you are.

Second, lawyer the hell up. You are in a battle. You can give up and die, or you can fight. I say fight. Some bitch comes after me with a DV charge had better have deep pockets. She knows she will be in the fight of her miserable life. Sue her into the next century.

Third, you are in training. Spend time at the gym. Eat right. Pray. Don’t drink a lot until you have won the battle.

I concur that this is the proper attitude if you hope to prevail. Be the warrior.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[mgtowcuriousSpectator 91]

HI Billy..Maybe this will help you..I Saw in you’re post that you have a clean record..This is a advantage…Does she have anything against her?..If so use it..and please get a competent attorney…I hope all goes well for you

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Sent a pm . Do it.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[AutoliteParticipant]

mgtowcurious wrote:

HI Billy..Maybe this will help you..I Saw in you’re post that you have a clean record..This is a advantage…Does she have anything against her?..If so use it..and please get a competent attorney…I hope all goes well for you

That’s an excellent point! I had a clean record when I was accused of assault. It was the first thing that the cops checked. I’m sure that it helped prevent me from getting charged. The cops know that it’s unlikely a middle-aged guy with a good record all his life is just suddenly going to start beating on people…

[mgtowcuriousSpectator 91]

Autolite wrote:

mgtowcurious wrote:

HI Billy..Maybe this will help you..I Saw in you’re post that you have a clean record..This is a advantage…Does she have anything against her?..If so use it..and please get a competent attorney…I hope all goes well for you

That’s an excellent point! I had a clean record when I was accused of assault. It was the first thing that the cops checked. I’m sure that it helped prevent me from getting charged. The cops know that it’s unlikely a middle-aged guy with a good record all his life is just suddenly going to start beating on people…

It does help..when my mother and aunt tried to have me arrested..the cop saw I had no record..and he did not seem impressed by my mother’s bulls~~~ story..It was a diffrent situation..but it was still considered a domestic dispute…They pushed me so hard that I snapped..I think the cop understood

[mgtowcuriousSpectator 91]

One last thing Billy..fight like you’re life depends on it..which it does..Have no sympathy for her..view her as a enemy..If you don’t she will crush you..

[SwimcatParticipant 3589]

Words of encouragement are not enough. He needs money. Billy have you thought about a go fund me page. If all of us could give something, it might make all the difference in the world.

[OldschoolParticipant 2481]

Swimcat wrote:

Words of encouragement are not enough. He needs money. Billy have you thought about a go fund me page. If all of us could give something, it might make all the difference in the world.

The problem is this is still the internet.

Get a vasectomy.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

I’m sorry to hear that, Billy. It’s okay to vent.

All I can really tell you is: HANG IN THERE. And let a lawyer do all the talking if possible.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[Anonymous 6]

Kill em all.
Breath.
Kill em all.
Breath.

The law does not exist to provide justice.
the law exists to provide control for those who rule, for those who exploit you.

Anonymous wrote:

This is a trap! They will use your sense of responsibility and your desire to be a good father to bully and extract from you.

Anonymous wrote:

There is no such thing as being responsible without power. Therefore you are not responsible for anything. THEY HAVE TAKEN IT AWAY FROM YOU

What he said.

[freedomParticipant 5129]

Brother, please don’t apologize, especially when you do need some words of encouragement, no one deserves to be denied access to his kids .

Remember the most important thing now is that you have to be a diplomat, don’t say anything that might f~~~ you over and don’t stay in the same room with her and listen to the other guys.

Leave the dark thoughts out, nothing is determined yet

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