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Here’s the thing, dude… doing something negative, either to yourself or someone else, isn’t going to make anything better, it will just make things worse.
“How can it get worse?” people in bad situations often ask themselves… well it can.
Your wife is a c~~~. She’s using the state to perpetuate physical, emotional and economic violence against you. She’s turning your kids against you. There’s nothing you can do about it.
But there is… you can’t stop these bad things from happening to you. None of us can control the things that happen to us. But you CAN control how you respond to it.
Do so with calm. With dignity. Be the shining light on the rock, no matter how hard the winds blow and the waves crash. You’ve got to be the lighthouse in the storm. Your kids need it, people around you need it but most of all, you need it.
Life will go on and you will survive. This will pass and you will find happiness and purpose.
I have assault charges pending from the ex. I’m not allowed to contact my kids, and I’m not sure what to do. I’ve never been in trouble with the law before, and it looks like I’m going to get a criminal record now.
Billy,
please take it in stride.
I wished I had gotten only 10 years jail time instead of the “health life sentence” my poisoned business place gave me.
Everything will be alright if you just keep your health.
I wished I had 10 convictions and no job options because of them…
But still being able to get up and work all day…
Your “little problem” is so manageable compared to what some others are going through.
In some time, you can even laugh about it and be proud of it.
Let me give you the positive aspects:
You had a showdown with a c~~~. Perfect. That ends it all. No matter what it will cost now, get away and start a new.
And your life will be so much better without a c~~~ or without any female influence.
Envision the future: No nagging, no bitching, no contact…
You stay away from her and if your kids won’t understand – so be it.
Get your head out of that string. It might become costly but you a free after that!
And make sure that you never make that mistake again.
All c~~~s are like that and it will get even worse in the future.
Another positive side: Your story helps others. Never stop spreading it and from now on you are immune to social shaming.
When someone asks you “why aren’t you married…?”
You can now tell them why you will NEVER do this again, they leave you alone.
A tiny fraction of my childhood stories were always good enough to shut all shaming down forever.
And most of all:
Talk to your closest friends about it, if you can count on them being on your side.
And we are at a point in history on which the tides are turning and the police education is shifting toward new study insights.
Some time ago I stated a thread with long videos on domestic violence and that women are most often more violent than men.
Watch them and see if you can take something out of them for your defense line.
Educating yourself about a matter will make things a lot easier for you and your lawyer. Sometimes lawyers don’t “know it all” and by bringing in latest research by yourself, you can sometimes MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE!
New Canadian research shows: Women are also abusive – way more than we think…
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Anonymous25Get a criminal lawyer to deal with the assault charges if you can afford it, or try and find some free legal advice service that will help you. Follow the advice of your lawyer.
The feminist system of persecuting men for DV, is deliberately set up to cause you as much stress as possible to make things difficult for you at trial.
I’d suggest doing some formal mindfulness practice each day, then when you give evidence you will come across calm and focused. If you can find time, do the bodyscan meditation on this link every day, you will find it really helps because you will notice where you are holding stress and tension in your body:
http://mindfulness-solution.com/DownloadMeditations.html
This link has useful information on fighting false allegations of DV too:
https://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=6008
To all the men reading. BODYCAM
This stuff is real and you need to protect yourself, it’s not tinfoil hat conspiracy stuff.
I avoided this s~~~ because I was recording when ex did it to me. Then I had evidence of her doing fake crocodile tears to police. Then I had evidence of her having to tell police I had not done anything aggressive. Then I had evidence of police falsifying the report. Then I have evidence that Harriet Harman has told the police and prosecutors they have to ignore evidence and prosecute men no matter what.
We need to turn the tables on them. We need to be able to tell other men, they lied and I have evidence ex lied, police lied and prosecutors lied and they didn’t even get to take me to court because I would expose their lies. Instead of men keep having to defend themselves in court.
The only way to do that is BODYCAM. Ghandi and Luther King showed us the power of truth force. It’s time catch them and tell as many men as possible we have evidence of their lies and corruption.
Stay strong, Billy. MGTOW is exactly what you need in this situation. You will be able to look back on this someday and realize that this is when your life began again.
NomadicExpat: Your advice was great! Especially the last paragraph. I think we need to post-it-note that one or whatever it is we do with stuff we want to remember.
Anonymous43Billy, I had an order of protection put on me for 8 weeks. No contact means no contact. It was incredibly painful going from stay at home dad to homeless, no money, no job, and no kids. Jebus on the cross, I contemplated self immolation just 2 days before being removed.
Do not go anywhere near what you left behind.
I tried to fill up all my free time with activities out of town as much as possible. I got a gym membership and worked out and swam, watched tv, rode exercise bikes, ran the treadmill and sat in a steam room for like 8 hours a day after work.I’m not going to lie to you, this is not a time of unicorns and rainbows. I have no idea how this will turn out. Lawyer may try to negotiate this down to counseling and community service. I hope the charges are dropped completely.
Get a good criminal attorney. Let him do all the talking. Legal world is not real world. Logic and reason are left at the door, and the bizarre world begins.
Have ya read any of my posts, the ones about the s~~~ I went through to stay in my kids’ lives, and what it ultimately cost me? Given that your c~~~ is just as bats~~~ crazy, you may want to consider leaving the situation permanently. I know, not what you want to hear right now. I stayed in the fight way too long for all the right reasons, to save my children from the toxic c~~~. May God have mercy on my soul, I failed. I couldn’t defeat the court, the law and the perception that women are the “better” custodial parent.
Your c~~~ is dangerous, and she will maneuver you into this place again if she can. Your c~~~ and my c~~~, they will share a seat together on the bus to hell. You and I will gladly pay the fare.
Chin up amigo. This s~~~ happens more often than you think. Learn form this. Stay the f~~~ away from this c~~~.
I remember sleeping in my car after she came home drunk and enraged. And I was the one struck – yet men dare not get law enforcement involved because the cards are stacked against us no matter what.
That incident. Almost a year ago, opened up a strength in me I didn’t know I had. I focused solely on getting by each day. I rented a new place, packed up and left. And had to take a loan to do it – but mental and emotional health is worth every penny of interest. It’s so easy to get scared when thinking long term – but the future is not ours to predict. Take care of yourself on a day to day basis.
This is a turning point in your life. On the other side is a life free of the effects of a nasty c~~~ who is clearly the embodiment of this cultural cesspool we live in called the modern western world. I wish you well, brother. The toxicity of One nasty female vs 20,000 plus men – no contest. Reach out when you need to. We’re here for you.How awesome is this place? You men are true friends and brothers.
All I can say to the original poster is that you should lay off the booze and drugs while the going is tough. These things only make it SEEM better and it’s an illusion. The situation will still be the same when you sober up so stay sober and ride the storm out. Keep the medicinals handy but use them when it’s over and you are in a better mood. Be strong and take whatever is thrown at you during this s~~~storm. You are a MAN and you can handle this, with us at your side.
" I feel threatened "
I’ve been there fella, different circumstances but similar thoughts. If it gets too bad then see your doctor. I did reluctantly and it really helped.
Its hard man, but the light will find you eventually. Hang on.
Hey billy . Keep a radio turned on bro . In a wierd way it helps bro if ya on ya own and down
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Hitman has always offered some good words at times like this.
thanks..
i have a minute or two and i have to go.
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please know it’s temporary my brother.
survive this .
we are here for you and really care !
.the kid’s are worth everything.
don’t use any negative words with the ex,
and try to keep being the good man you already are.
.
it takes time to smooth things out.
i will pray for you .
and like venom wrote,
if you have time to worry,
use that time to pray instead.
.
my mom used to tell me,
“when you don’t feel normal,
do normal things”.
.stick to your regular routines,
shower,
dress,
eat,
etc…
and you’ll feel a lot better.
.
ACT normal as possible ,
and time will pass…
…it WILL get better bro,
NEVER GIVE UP !!!Hey billy . Keep a radio turned on bro . In a wierd way it helps bro if ya on ya own and down
it really does !!!
Hey billy bro . Check out the depression thread around ten above yours . Might be a tough road bro but me and hitman have kids and know the ropes .
No matter what when it comes to the ex what ever she says that really p~~~es you of don’t react . I know its hard . Play the game . When it comes time when you communicate with her use words like this .
Would you like me to have the kids .
If you need me to pick up the kids
Is it ok if i speak to the kids .
Let the bitch beleave she is in control .
Its playing the game . Give her nothing she can use against you .
It is now a buisness deal . No talking about her or your personal life . NO ATTENTION
LONG DISTANCE PHONE COMMUNICATION WITH YOUNG KIDS .
Who did you play with at kindy . Ask them what they played ..ask them about there friends . Talk about kids movies they like .
When your ever on the phone with the ex or even the kids pretend she is recording you . Also record any calls you have with her .
As hitman said NEVER QUESTION YOUR KIDS . F~~~ my kids have told me about the questions and forcing the them to say s~~~ . All has come back to bite the ex in the arse . My kids can’t stand her
Don’t drink if you do put your phone away don’t start texting or phoning .
But please check that thread out bro and remember someone is on here 24/7
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Sorry to say bro, but you’re getting hit with classic female manipulation techniques, and things will likely get much worse for you before getting better. The assault charges are going to hang over your head, always. So if they’re still pending, you need to get a good attorney and fight it, even at high cost to yourself. Criminal charges stays with you, and will negatively affect your life, whether custody of your kids, divorce, jobs, etc.
As far as if you assaulted her or not, I’m guessing it went something like this. She p~~~ed you off, possibly was hitting you until you were provoked to response, at which point, she cried wolf, and got you arrested. Again, classic female tactic. Women are extremely good at provoking men, and prompting responses, which is what they are looking for. Don’t let her provoke you to response. Try to limit interactions with her from now on without an unbiased 3rd party individual. You may want to look at documenting any and all interaction with her in the future. Such a log may be helpful if she tries to go back and claim you assaulted her or something a few weeks back.
I sincerely hope you pull through this, and feel free to use these forums to vent or get advice.
"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

Anonymous12Billy!
In your OP you state you wanna fight for your kids.
this spawned a thought in me…@ may 7 2020 might just have opened the same door that opened in my mind… if not, it is a very similar one.
Fight for Your Own Self first and foremost – to stay in good shape for the future.
Be that in food or exercise, inside and out – work, and offduty activities.
Make no definitive changes to a temporary situation.
No relocating, changing jobs or anything.
Those that deserve their father in their lives will thank you and pay it back in spades.For the moments of anger, i would offer a few words:
Revenge is a life well lived.
You are standing on the edge of the cliff watching the death of your family.
You cannot see the re-birth that follows.
Stand with both feet firmly planted upon the ground and face into the wind. Stand firmly my brother as the mist of your family desolves around you.
Go forth so that in the future you can be ready when your children return to you.
All that was is gone, all that will be depends upon your preparations for the time in the future when you children return.
Peace brothers
You can choose to let what happened define you, or you can learn from what happened and leave it in the past and move forward. It sucks, it’s tough, but remember. It’s not about how hard you hit, it’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. You learn from life experiences.
That’s a very good way to look at it ^^^. See it as a learning experience. We all know that marriage and family is a massive liability. Women are a massive liability. Sometimes, some people, need to go through with the experience themselves in order for the lesson to be driven home. It’s just a human thing.
But now B&TC just has to tough it out and move on. Chalk it up as a lesson learned and don’t ever make the same mistakes again…
I’ve got a battery on my record, as well as some other things. Been to jail a handful of times. That’s not the big concern. I don’t have kids, so don’t know what it’s like to be a father. That may indeed be the worst part. I’ve got plenty of old friends with kids who are in prison. There are lots of others who have it worse of than you. Time heals. This is just a small bump in the road. Keep your head up. Life goes on. You’ve got your whole life ahead of you.
Don't care

Anonymous1Hold in there bro, tough times never last, tough people do.
Remember that you have brothers here, if you feel like you need someone to talk send me a pm and we’ll catch up, I have still 2-3 days before I get out of town.
I remember sleeping in my car after she came home drunk and enraged. And I was the one struck – yet men dare not get law enforcement involved because the cards are stacked against us no matter what.
We know for certain, from posts on another thread, that there is at least one ex-cop on this forum. I’m certain that there are plenty more but there was at least one who came out.
I would like to ask the cops and ex-cops on this forum to help us out and to start telling us how to minimize our liabilities when dealing with the dysfunctional LE system.
We all know that many innocent men are falsely accused, charged, arrested and jailed so let’s not pretend that the system is just. Let’s assume that the system is corrupt and now discuss ways of navigating through it with minimal negative consequences.
I was set-up in a false assault sting a few years ago. I just waited around for the cops to show up so I could tell them my side of the story. When they did show up, they actually wouldn’t even allow me to explain my side of it. If they would have allowed me to speak, how the set-up was carried out would have been obvious.
Now I’m asking if I should have immediately reported to the police station (in person) after the trap was sprung in order to be allowed to explain what really happened?
We need any MGTOW cops on the forum here telling us what we need to do to keep our asses out of a sling. As cops, you know that you’ve arrested and jailed innocent guys. Please tell us what we should be doing to avoid having that happening to us. Other than the obvious which is of course just to stay the hell away from all females… 😀

Anonymous42I have assault charges pending from the ex. I’m not allowed to contact my kids, and I’m not sure what to do. I’ve never been in trouble with the law before, and it looks like I’m going to get a criminal record now.
Billy, just try to put yourself momentarily in the future when all this is behind you! Place yourself ahead of the storm when the storm clouds break!
She will be living in the poring rain of her own creation for this persecution she has created. Your insides will heal, hers will never, that’s how evil works, it will consume her and strengthen you, I’ve seen this pattern replicate too many times and in so many ways.
What thou sewest thou reapest, sweet or bitter, all determined by the things we do, it’s inescapable…
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