Not Doing Christmas

[Space CowboyParticipant 1466]

I’d be happy with a tiny USB Christmas tree and nothing else. Grab a few online black Friday sales to take advantage but don’t buy s~~~ or clutter like a woman does.

See friends and family but no need to go decorating the whole house inside and out just for one month. Sounds grinchy, but most of the magic has gone for me. If you have kids you do need to give them a ‘normal’ Xmas.

"Have you ever thought about any real freedoms? Freedom from the opinions of others...even from the opinions of yourself?"

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Saxamaphone wrote:

Puffin, could you elaborate? My kid getting spoilt is a sourece of worry for me.

I used to use toys as transactional with my son. I bought him whatever he wanted within reason and he worked in school, was respectful, was well behaved.

Then, when he hit puberty at 12 he began to want the stuff without putting in his part. He didn’t do school work, was difficult and demanded “stuff”.

So I brought him to see a psychologist and he recommended I cut off the “stuff” and see what my son did.

He got grumpy that he didn’t have his “stuff” but also did not do well in school and was a pain in the ass at home.

But, eventually he began to respect getting “stuff” as he never got any from me.

A card at Christmas and I bought him a bed for college this years.

She’s your daughter, no need to buy her “stuff”. “Stuff” is unimportant.

Respect is irreplacable.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Anonymous wrote:

Hahahaha

Go grinch team.

Hahahaha

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[bladeParticipant]

It’sallbs wrote:

I never do it’s all bulls~~~.

F~~~ that santa blade is comming to town .

There will be alot of men lurking the net at xmas in bad shape .

Along with our empathy lets give em a laugh and a bit of distraction .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Anonymous 12]

You will enjoy it – the first time in your life
😛

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Even the Grinch’s heart grew three sizes Christmas Day.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Bob DylanParticipant 1352]

Maybe someone can photo-shop a:

No Man Needed Holiday Gift Set

Contents:
1 Huge dildo
1 Wallet, stuffed full of Monopoly money
1 Hot Wheels SUV
1 Picture of a mansion on the water (suitable for framing)

..it ain't me babe...it ain't me you're looking for, babe...

[Anonymous 42]

Twist wrote:

Tough day for me. This, barring a miracle, will be the 6th Christmas I have not seen my daughters. The two word text messages “Merry Christmas” are worse than the silence.

I’ll probably go to church – early before it becomes a social event. Then probably spend the day with friends, maybe my brother, eat and drink to near coma, and put another chalk mark on my life.

I haven’t purchased a Christmas present in years. And finally got to the point just last month where I was able to throw out the tree.

Thank you c~~~.

Cheer up Twist, the same thing happened to all of us, feminism and gynocentrism is the Grinch that stole Christmas and everything else from all of us!

The narcissism is so bad, any and all good we do slips into the darkness unnoticed and unappreciated!

The tread mill is over!

We ran and ran for a century and a half under a steady onslaught of detrimental changes to how this society functions and who is rewarded for their efforts and labor and how that reward has been stolen away forever as far as the life of this dying culture and declining civilization is concerned.

We’re walking away numbering in the millions and women still haven’t taken their faces out of the mirror, nor one single thought of introspection, they keep on marching toward the slaughter.

Merry Christmas Twist! From one MAN to ANOTHER!

A screen play by Twist and MG-ɹƎʍO┴, after being raped by feminism:

Twist: You okay?

MG-ɹƎʍO┴: Naw man. I’m pretty f~~~in’ far from okay.

Twist: What now?

MG-ɹƎʍO┴: What now? Let me tell you what now. I’ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin’ ni~~as, who’ll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin’, hillbilly boy? I ain’t through with you by a damn sight. I’ma get medieval on your ass.

[StentorianParticipant 1690]

“He who takes an eel by the tail, or a woman at her word, soon finds he holds nothing.”

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

In many ways I envy you Twist. You’ve given your children the gift of lack of parental strife. Stability is so important for children.

I did not. I was an MRA and insisted on 50/50 and my son is just getting over it at age 20. We fought constantly. It cost me 300K in court costs and 14 years of aggravation.

My son almost didn’t graduate high school two years ago. He went to an easy city school because he couldn’t hack it at private school besides having all the money in the world.

Now, after 3 years of him growing up in his teen years, we are starting to have a real relationship. I insisted he do his homework and he moved to his mom’s.

For three years I didn’t talk to him. It was the best thing I ever did for him. He couldn’t pull me push you to his two parents pitting us against each other and taking advantage. It was destroying him. It was painful for me to not hear from him at Christmas but it had to stop.

He’s doing better. Is in college and doing well. He wants to be an engineer, something environmental.

It is slow going. It has taken two years of me calling him once a week for us to develop a closeness. I he’s coming in once a year and I go see him once a year. It’s pretty good.

The childhood years come and go. The pain is because you love them so much. Would you change that?

Your kids will realize that they have a loving father when they are older and you will have a chance to have a closer relationship then.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

In many ways I envy you Twist. You’ve given your children the gift of lack of parental strife. Stability is so important for children.

I did not. I was an MRA and insisted on 50/50 and my son is just getting over it at age 20. We fought constantly. It cost me 300K in court costs and 14 years of aggravation.

My son almost didn’t graduate high school two years ago. He went to an easy city school because he couldn’t hack it at private school besides having all the money in the world.

Now, after 3 years of him growing up in his teen years, we are starting to have a real relationship.

He’s doing better. Is in college and doing well. He wants to be an engineer, something environmental.

It is slow going. It has taken two years of me calling him once a week for us to develop a closeness.

The childhood years come and go. The pain is because you love them so much. Would you change that?

Your kids will realize that they have a loving father when they are older and you will have a chance to have a closer relationship then.

I chose stability over strife and insecurity just this past week. Hanging up the gloves in the fight for 50/50. It was a tough decision, but I based it on some of the ideas you mentioned Puffin Stuff. I figure it’s more important for me to have stability than the unpredictable crap that goes with a fight for a 50/50 spilt. It’s nice to hear another MGTOW voice it here like this. Some might say FIGHT, but it ain’t always right to go to battle on the basis of pride. What’s the long-term strategy? That’s what I’m thinking about. Plus, you lurkers out there… Divorce is for LIFE! It’s never over. Fill out a government form and check off single instead of divorced, even ten years after being divorced and monk, it won’t do. You’ll be asked to correctly check Divorced! You and the ex-c~~~ can sue each other at any time before and after divorce, ANYTIME, as long as you can pay for it. Say you want to sue her after going no contact with her for 10 years. Say when your 90 and she’s 90 and you’re both decrepit f~~~s. No problem! You can send the old bag papers from the court to her nursing home and have them delivered to her as she lies gasping for breath on her soon-to-be death bed. Divorced is for life!

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Point Of No Return wrote:

What’s the long-term strategy?

Precisely. That’s why I always say on here to “not give your children to women”.

Because essentially by having children with a woman, and with women not staying with men any more we are, in fact, giving our children to a stranger to raise.

A stranger who depends on our income to suck out of the tit of life and depends on alienating the children from you to maintain control over them.

Not our friend at all. Our enemy essentially.

Don’t have children.

Just say “NO” to children.

They should make a bumper sticker.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[AwakenedParticipant 35206]

Point Of No Return wrote:

Divorced is for life!

Divorced or Single; it’s just a societal label.

No need to let IT define YOU.

In the Matrix, we wear all types of labels none of which have any bearing on who YOU are, or what YOU want to do, or the MAN that YOU are striving to be.

Point Of No Return wrote:

Divorce is for LIFE! It’s never over. Fill out a government form and check off single instead of divorced, even ten years after being divorced and monk, it won’t do. You’ll be asked to correctly check Divorced!

When you are dealing with the Matrix bureaucracy, you must check off the correct boxes, and fill in the correct Matrix titles.

In YOUR world, in YOUR head, YOU SHOULD BE FREE, and that’s all that’s Important.

That’s All ANY of US has……..

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

I’m glad that my kids are old enough to make up their minds about what they see when they are with their mom. As long as I hear them tell me that they don’t approve of certain things she does, I figure they are thinking critically. I’ve asked my kids about the strife. And they have told me that they prefer it now, because they don’t see their parents fighting anymore (I keep my No Contact tool right next to my NFG tool on my MGTOW tool belt). Additionally, I’m the one who left the family residence and wound up in a shoebox of a dwelling. So, in my jurisdiction, I have to prove I can adequately lodge myself and sons in order to apply for shared custody. Except…, and this is the part where you can see gynocentrism at work…, I have to agree to increased child support FIRST, … then I can apply for shared custody. Well then, there goes the cash I needed to sign a new lease for a two-bedroom flat! I have to pay the only bucks I left over at the end of the month to either one of two things: 1) the ex, or two, the landlord of a big apartment. … Some of you might say, pay the landlord instead of the ex. Well, it’s actually less expensive and a fixed expense if I pay CS. If I get a new flat, then I’ll have a higher monthly expense (add to that the food bill for two little dudes, one a teen) and it’ll be riskier (remember, I’m seeking stability here), because that big apartment will feel useless to me two weeks out of four, and place me in a greater financial liability situation should the kids for some reason have to leave ‘the big apartment’. So, I figure, swallow your pride and do the right thing. Pay less per month, create more financial stability, and maintain a shoe-box to live in albeit small as hell shoe-box. At least it’s my own private space where my kids can come and visit me twice a week, seeing that I maintain my visitation rights by shelling out the ‘baby-sitter’ money every month. My ex is a c~~~, for sure, but she doesn’t do drugs or drink, and I know that maintaining her appearance for her feces-book friends is very important to her. So she’ll think twice before going bat-s~~~ crazy on me. She cares too much for the hive’s stamp of approval (‘Be A Good Mom’). As for my sons, I feed them red pills twice a week, which they gladly ask for, and that I give out in copious amounts. My teenage son even hears it from his buddies that they think he has a cool dad, when my son tells his friends a little about ‘where I’m headed’ in life (I’m teaching him stealth slowly). Sorry, if I busted the line of thought on this thread but sometimes it just spills out like this.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[TwistParticipant]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

Don’t have children.

Just say “NO” to children.

They should make a bumper sticker.

The world is truly upside down when this statement makes 100% perfect sense.

[Heave-Ho MgtowParticipant 1797]

This is the last Christmas with my son living with me full time. He is 18 and off to college next year. I have had custody of him since he was 18 months old.

I’ll put up a post or 4 as I reflect back for fellow MGTOW. This year he is getting a post war 40’s Kay upright double bass. 40 years from now it will sound even better. F~~~ the commercialism, and get them something that means something.

skip the cavernous vag and go your own way

[CrankgankerParticipant 466]

I dread Christmas every year. Everyone acts so damn crazy for no reason. I’m just glad all of my friends and family know how completely unreliable I am so they don’t ever expect anything form me ever. And Ive worked really hard to ensure that.

I don’t give gifts and I don’t accept gifts. And my mother absolutely HATES that. The past 6 years I have refused to accept or open any gifts. And everyone treats me like IM THE BAD GUY for denying them the ability to feel good about themselves.

I only stop by for the Christmas ham. And hey all know it.

You want to make me angry? I will take a bite out of that anger and shit out success.

[Anonymous 38]

TheDude wrote:

F~~~ Christmas.

Christmas is a commercial feel good fest for weemins and simps. F~~~ it indeed.

I enjoy the time off, eating, drinking and seeing trusted people (most of which are not family). But “Christmas” I’m the blue pilled sense can f~~~ off.

[Right Coast CanadaParticipant 256]

I’ve noticed on my legal documents I am listed as Divorced, not Single. Why can’t I be Single?

[Anonymous 1]

The whole spirit of Christmas has been subverted into Consumerism. I will not be participating in any of the bulls~~~. I will have a quiet celebration of Winter Solstice and thats about as far as I go with it.

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