No response to DNA test request – should I conclude it is NOT my child ?

[Puffin StuffParticipant 25017]

In the United States you most certainly need to notify the husband before you put his name on the birth certificate. The woman is required to place an ad in any newspaper announcing that the child was born to zzzzz and he is on the birth certificate.

No men ever read these so effectively women have carte blanche to find the biggest wallet she can to attach to her womb turd.

There is no limitations on when she can file for child support and you’ll be asked to pay from when the child was born.

A woman told you in writing that you are her babies child. I wouldn’t “forget” about it. It can come back to bite you at any time.

Many states and countries do not allow a man do demand a DNA test.

I would wait until legal papers arrive to have a case of child support levied against you.

I would lie and state to the Judge that there is no way the child can be yours because you where out of town during conception. Bring proof of your frequent traveling during that time.

Try to place a doubt in the mind of the Judge and get him to order a DNA test.

Or you can just convince her to go on the Jerry Springer show.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[narwhalParticipant]

Agree with others that this is a legal issue, and an attorney should be contacted for the best advice, and to better track all correspondence.

I would not focus on trying to guess her motives, as she’s a woman and very possibly handling this irrationally. Just as an example, she could be offended that you asked for a DNA test, which she interprets as accusing her of being a cheating slut. Even if she is a cheating slut, she’s still going to be offended by the insinuation. And women act irrationally when they are offended. She could very well have not cheated, and she is just deny the request and the child support as a way of getting back at you…somehow. She may be milking the opportunity to play victim, a single mother with a baby daddy who’s refusing to pay child support (her side of the story only). And all that will wear off the second she needs money, maybe years from now, and decides to go after you.

Ok. Then do it.

[Branched offParticipant 11033]

Hi Christopher,
Thank you for the comments you wrote in reply to my post. Reading what you have written, I am struck by the capacity of men to love without condition or hope. Women will never understand the depth of that love. They dismiss us as cold and selfish without stopping to see the clearest proofs to the contrary such as the things you have written.

I would personally quietly seek information rather than make bold confrontational moves. Those who warn about the long term consequences of entering a relationship with this woman where you pay child support and are owed in return nothing are right. You could have much to lose by trying to enter such a relationship. That does not however mean that you should not do it but one might do well to be circumspect and approach slowly.

She will edit the truth, she has total control of what is perceived as the truth now while the child is small. You are in an impossible situation -you can push and become the bad man that makes mummy cry or you can ignore her and be the worthless piece of s~~~ mummy was right to get away from. You are unlikely to win much by the legal path -you give a narcissist an enemy to validate herself against. A gentle interest with the odd letter and the odd token gift and such may offer more opportunity -if she is down on her luck she may want something from you one day and then be open for business, provided she has not come to view you as an enemy (most narcissistic women are mercenary, provided it fits with their desired self image at the time). The less guarded she is towards you the more likely she is to mess up and give you the information you need to get the DNA you need.

I would quietly and covertly follow her by all the channels you can and speak to her gently, briefly and infrequently, never avowing to her or anyone she knows any strong emotion, just simulate a warm friend of her and her child she can take or leave and watch and accumulate information.

As a hunter I always try to remember that the deer only has to make one mistake. If I don’t make a mistake first it is only a matter of time till the deer does. If you go after a clever creature possessed of great abilities to perceive threats and try to outwit it or corner it, you are likely to make many mistakes and push it into the bushes. If you observe what it likes to do and put yourself in its path at a time it is likely to be coming that way and when the wind is blowing right, the deer in doing what it naturally does, will some day come too close and probably do so sooner rather than later. You have many years ahead now and she only has to make one mistake for you to get your DNA. I would go the soft path. In the mean time you will know more about your child’s life and may have laid a paper trail to prove you love it. I would say just take a look in the woods every time you have a spare morning and see what turns up.

Of course it may not be yours but I think there is a more than equal chance it is yours. What has a cold hard bitch to lose by saying “It is not yours, pay for your DNA test and weep little man for you were never worthy of the great treasure that is my womb”? -nothing, unless of course it is your child.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Will Robinson wrote:

I’d say the most likely explanation is that she’s not sure of the biological father. She was hoping to get cash and prizes from you.

If there were 5 other guys that could have potentially been the father, guaranteed 5 other guys got the same song and dance. She started with the one who had the most income/assets/potential to loot and worked her way down the list until she found an idiot who would believe her s~~~ and pony up without much resistance. If all the potential men who f~~~ed her around the time span they could have been her father told her DNA test or f~~~ off, she’d have taken some guys for DNA tests.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12045]

Why the hell you wrote so much?
She didn’t answer, therefore it’s not your child.
It’s so easy.

Move on and ignore da bitch.

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[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

Thank you all for your perspectives. I appreciate it.

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[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

narwhal wrote:

And women act irrationally when they are offended.

Bitch, women act irrationally even when they’re NOT offended. They are impervious to logic, reason, and evidence–those are tools of the patriarchy.

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[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

I’m not a lawyer, and have never been to law school. But I have been schooled, by women, on a few things about their behavior. When there is something they want, they look for the path of least resistance to getting it. She may, or may not know who the father is. But she will MOST CERTAINLY know who the best provider of financial resources is.

As another mgtow pointed out to me not long after my arrival here: There are some stupid women out there. But no matter how stupid some of them are, they ALL know how to count.

So here is some insight: She wanted a kid. She has a kid. Mission accomplished.

Now, she wants money.

Do you think she even CARES who the biological father is?

She wants money. She cares about who the best financial provider is. She cares about the path of least resistance to the money.

As she goes down her list of men she f~~~ed, asking each of them for money, she is not starting with the man most likely to be the biological father based on when, and how often she f~~~ed him. That’s not the man at the top of the list. She is starting at the man most likely to be the path of least resistance to the money. The broke man is at the bottom of the list, no matter how many times he f~~~ed her.

We don’t know if you are at the top of the list of biological contenders for father of this child. We don’t even know if you are at the top of the list of financial contenders that she is trying to pin fatherhood on and extract money from. All we really know is that you are on that second list. You could have been the first man she called, or the second, or somewhere else further down the list. All we know is that you are (somewhere) on that list because we all know you have some money to take. That’s it. That’s all anyone knows.

option 1: she doesn’t know who the biological father is, and she doesn’t give a s~~~. She just hopes you’ll agree it’s you, or some other man with money to take.

option 2: she knows who the father is, and he doesn’t have any money to take.

option 3: she doesn’t know for sure, and would rather try to convince you (or one of the other men with money that she f~~~ed) that it’s your child without having to prove it with a DNA test. THAT’S THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE TO THE MONEY.

The DNA test is MUCH RISKIER. If she agrees to a DNA test on the child, she runs the risk of proving that it is the biological child of a man with no money to take. Why take that risk if she can convince a man with money to give her some of it without the test? She also runs the risk of having the biological father demand visitation, possibly joint custody, etc. Why take that risk? The DNA test leads to the path of greater risks.

That she has not pressed you with an attorney indicates that she already got the money she was looking for, either from some other man, or from big daddy government. Once she gets the $$ from big daddy government, she is essentially getting all men to pay for her child and she can go back to no longer giving a s~~~ who the biological father is.

And finally, there is the possibility that she already got the money from another man, or the government, but is still fishing to see if she can get you to pay also. It’s not so outlandish as it sounds. She was f~~~ing at least 2 men near simultaneously. Lying to 2 men, and cashing checks from two men simultaneously is no great leap.

The bottom line is that for her, this is all transactional. She is navigating to where she thinks the money is, not to where the DNA link is. And she is navigating the path that appears to be the path of least resistance.

Keep your eye on the money and it will explain much of the behavior that you see…

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[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

BrainPilot wrote:

Lying to 2 men, and cashing checks from two men simultaneously is no great leap.

It’s even easier if she compartmentalized the men into different social circles and they can’t compare notes. It’s not like men go out and actively search for their baby mama’s previous flings. Well, they do–but it’s never to TALK.

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