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Anonymous1Blue pill colleague who recently had twins, kept telling me that it will be me someday.
I informed him that would never happen.
He asked what me what I’d do if I “accidentally” got a woman pregnant.
I looked him dead in the eye and told him I’d flee the country.
He looked shocked but slightly excited by the prospect.
Should Christopher request a DNA test through an attorney just to be on record early on?
Get a vasectomy.
She hasn’t responded because she probably has some other sucker(s) already sending her money.
I bet she mails out requests in bulk!OATHKEEPERS, not on our watch. MOLON LABE
Thank you for your posts gentlemen I appreciate it.
she is a narc bitch and is trying to guilt-shame you into raising other man’s DNA.
Unless you get DNA test confirming child is yours run and never look back. And since she is looking for some wallet to pay child support you better believe you would be paying it if was yours.You are overthinking this.
As other posters have already pointed out, her silence suggests that the child is either not yours, or that she is unsure as to who the father is. She is simply trying it on. For the time being at least, do nothing and say nothing.Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready
Did you requested the DNA test through something that can be used as a proof (mail, certified e-mail)?
If not, just do it.You have the proof that your requested a DNA test.
After doing that you can ignore her.
Done.
PS: there’s no such thing as child support, child support is unnatural.
Either you’re the father and therefore you also participate in the education of the child, or you’re away and therefore it’s not your business.There’s no such thing as child support meaning that she’s not going to take it, it doesn’t matter what she’ll do.
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So here is my advice: never, ever and I repeat, never ever do anything that could convince anyone – a judge for example – that you may recognize the kid as your own.
DO NOT send money. Sending money would then create a situation in witch you are implicitly recognizing your are the father.
THIS IS WHY SHE ASKED FOR MONEY FIRST even tho she knows your are not the father, if you send money, YOU WILL BE ACTING LIKE A FATHER ANYWAY AND A JUDGE WILL RECOGNIZE THAT AS IMPLICIT RECOGNITION OF FATHERHOOD and will rule that you are the father SINCE YOU ARE ACTING LIKE ONE
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Should Christopher request a DNA test through an attorney just to be on record early on?
Yes, this.
The cheaper attorney you can find, Christopher: he have just only to send a letter with an official request.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
I missed the part about sending money, but that should be obiouvs, it’s rule number 2:
If you give a significant amount of money to a woman, then this action make her legally entitled to support from you
This is a rule to never forgot, it applies to paying her bills (it could be interpreted as “cohabitation”) just like as it applies to giving her some money for the child.
Rule numer 1 being:
Best interests of the child = man must give money and prizes to the woman
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Could be pulling a stunt . I watched a vid awhile back how woman were sending paper work to wrong addresses or some s~~~ .
She might of found someone with more cash .
INSECURE BABY POSSIVE WOMAN .
If there is no dad on the birth certificate . These type are more about been afraid of you or others been close to the baby because they see you as a threat that you might f~~~ off with the baby . Power control these type of of woman dont want to lose it .One thing to be thankful for is there is no emotional connection . I too have a kid out there that i never knew . Much easier when there is no emotional attachment .
KEEP PROOF YOU ASKED FOR DNA AND S~~~ AND WALK AWAY .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
The child never was his. He doesn’t seem to want to know the child. The only question is child support. She can get it without DNA. Definitely don’t trust her about the birth certificate. If she put your name on it she doesn’t have to make sure you were notified. All she needs to do is advertise in a small paper that you were put on the birth certificate if you want to get DNA to deny it.
Since you won’t “do” anything either way I would forget about it and live a full and fun life. If the DNA comes back against you pay the bill and learn a lesson the hard way.
Keep it wrapped for so many reasons.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
F.O. has given a lot of great advise. About the only thing I would do different is if you have the money use legal to get the DNA test run. That way there is never a question.
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Anonymous5If you feel you’re being tortured, then you are.
Women love to keep men “hanging”, it’s part of their controlling, manipulating mechanism. Don’t ever expect a woman to take mercy on you by telling you exactly what’s going on.
Lying and deceit is their only mystique.Contacting you was a win/win move on her part.
Either you started sending her cash,,, win!
Or you requested a DNA test, where she’d leave you wondering the rest of your life if you’re a BAD father (and she’s the noble mother raising it on her own),,,win!
All she had to do was plant a seed of doubt, which she has, to win.
Don’t kid yourself. If the baby was yours you’d be part of the system by now.The only hold she has on you, is your thinking that she’s still possibly a NAWLT, and she’s playing on it.
She’ll have a hold on you till you stop thinking that not all women are like that. She’s proved she’s a c~~~ by not answering you.Yep, if it’s yours they’ll come for you sooner rather than later. Time to move out of country, pay or get ass raped in prison.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
So, when can we expect your appearance on Maury? 😛
Just kidding, obviously. Dude, it ain’t yours so forget about it. As others have said if it were you’d already know.
I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!
If it were yours and you were with her at the time, she would have got you on the birth certificate surely. Unless the other guy has tons of cash and she’s playing him. Maybe she wanted you to not question it and send cash off the books to help with “your baby”.
Who knows, c~~~s are capable of anything these days.
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Should Christopher request a DNA test through an attorney just to be on record early on?
Thank you for your comment. What is the benefit of ‘being on the record early on’ by going through an attorney?
Did you requested the DNA test through something that can be used as a proof (mail, certified e-mail)?
If not, just do it.Thank you very much for this suggestion.
These type are more about been afraid of you or others been close to the baby because they see you as a threat that you might f~~~ off with the baby . Power control these type of of woman dont want to lose it .
Thans for your thoughts Blade. Yes she is definitely a controlling/power control type. So this leads me to believe that its possible she is not responding to the DNA request as she wants full control over the baby.
I too have a kid out there that i never knew . Much easier when there is no emotional attachment . KEEP PROOF YOU ASKED FOR DNA AND S~~~ AND WALK AWAY
Thank you very much again I appreciate your comment.
He doesn’t seem to want to know the child
Thanks for your comments Puffin Stuff. I would not say that is correct. The reality seems to be I will not have ‘opportunity’ to know the child until perhaps in later life. It seems that currently I must remain detached otherwise I would be thinking everyday about a child that I might never see – and who might not be mine.
The only question is child support. She can get it without DNA.
I do not think she can get child support without a DNA test – at least it would be a very difficult process to do so – particularly as we live in different counrtries – it would be a paper tiger difficult to implement.
Since you won’t “do” anything either way I would forget about it and live a full and fun life. If the DNA comes back against you pay the bill and learn a lesson the hard way.
Do you mean ‘either way’ being ‘with or without DNA test’? My understanding is that with a ‘legal’ DNA test being positive I would be in the court system and would be subject to a child support order from that country to the country I live in.
F.O. has given a lot of great advise. About the only thing I would do different is if you have the money use legal to get the DNA test run. That way there is never a question.
Thank you for your comment. Ideally I would have the DNA test done ‘non-legal’ first to establish truth (they call ita ‘peace of mind test’) – and a legal DNA test later ‘if’ I was going down the legal path through the court system.
About the only thing I would do different is if you have the money use legal to get the DNA test run. That way there is never a question.[/quote]
Thank you for your thoughts on this.
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Contacting you was a win/win move on her part.
Either you started sending her cash,,, win!
Or you requested a DNA test, where she’d leave you wondering the rest of your life if you’re a BAD father (and she’s the noble mother raising it on her own),,,win!Thank you for your thoughts.
Don’t kid yourself. If the baby was yours you’d be part of the system by now.
Well I live in a country that is far way from her so its a long difficlt process from her side to secure child payments through the ‘system’ – but in essence ‘YES’ – surely if the baby was mine she would have consented to a DNA test as I had ALREADY SAID TO HER I would pay child support IF the child was mine – Surely this is the core question?
Surely if the child was mine she would therefore have consented to a DNA test as she believed she would now be recieving payments from me?
She’s proved she’s a c~~~ by not answering you.
YES definitely.
Yep, if it’s yours they’ll come for you sooner rather than later. Time to move out of country, pay or get ass raped in prison.
We live in seperate ‘far away’ countries. It is a paper tiger that is very difficult to implement if she tries the legal path for child support.
Dude, it ain’t yours so forget about it. As others have said if it were you’d already know
Thanks for your thoughts.
If it were yours and you were with her at the time, she would have got you on the birth certificate surely. Unless the other guy has tons of cash and she’s playing him. Maybe she wanted you to not question it and send cash off the books to help with “your baby”.
Thank you for your comment. The mother gave my name to the birth registry office, they contacted me asked for my consent to be on the birth certificate, I did not provide my consent as NO DNA test had taken place. I contacted the mother saying I would provide child support if a DNA test was carried out – she did NOT respond. She did NOT respond to my further requests for a DNA test.
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Thanks very much to you all gentlemen for your thoughts on this. I think I must also learn to forgive myself for the situation. I must stop beating myself up inside when I have done all I can logically do here (I already requested DNA test). The ball is in my ex’s court and she is not playing ball. One option for the future if I have more money to afford it is to go down the legal path to secure a DNA test (and a private investigator to find out address to post correspondence to).
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Branched Off I have been rereading your post and I thank you again for your very thoughtful words.
is is a hard and cruel situation Christopher. I am sorry that you are in this situation. It is one that I am not unfamiliar with. No one should be put into such a position, especially by one whom they have loved and who has once claimed to love them.
There are no good answers to be had, except that I would advise you to do the difficult thing here and do not fix your mind on one “truth”. I think it easy to say “its not mine, I will get on with my life” or “It is mine and I will fight for it”. The human mind (particularly a man’s mind) craves facts and wishes to bring light to dark corners.
I think in this case it is advisable to try to live with the two possibilities.Yes I agree.
Staying quiet will be the safest option here. A court case to get the DNA will be expensive and could cost you in child support if you are the father, yet you will be no better off in terms of having a relationship with the child.
Correct.
Against this is that fact that it is in your interest and the child’s to leave a paper trail to tell the child, if it is yours, that you love it and wanted to be part of its life.
Yes exactly – if the child is mine I love that child.
It is entirely possible that this child is not yours but it is also entirely possible that it is and that she just wants to be able to give it her own version of reality, to make it all hers.[/quote]
[quote quote=829833]If she sees no benefit in you being the father as you are far from her, unlikely to pay much and unlikely to ever see her as a special ever again, she will simply erase you like she will have done with so many other previous relationships that she no longer wants to own up to.
I know this womans character and I also feel this is very possible / that its a likely scenario that she wants to keep the child all to herself and give it her version of reality.
Yes I agree – I feel that its very possible this is what has happened – that she is erasing me like previous relationships – it stresses her out to be in contact and she sees little benefit in staying in contact as we live in different countries far way and its a paper tiger /extremely difficult for her to secure child support payments / (but against that I said I would provide child support subject to a DNA test so as she has not responded to that request it also makes sense that that it is not my child).
She may want to establish a situation in which you are clearly not acting as a father so that you cannot easily be allowed into the child’s life later.
Yes I think this is very possible.
You may one day get your chance to either pay someone to place a letter in the hands of the child on the date of its majority or to get a DNA sample by one means or another
Thank you for your words – this is what I have been thinking too.
Until then it is important to get on with life, prepared for the child not to be yours.
Yes – this is still what I am struggling with I am finding it hard to get on with life. My sense of self worth has taken a major hit. I feel a sense of guilt that (if the child is mine) that I am not in the childs life – yet the reality is I have been shut out, there is no communication from the mother and I do not know if it is even my child.
You should not disown this child in your mind until you know for certain it is not yours.
Yes I agree. Most everyone has told me to forget about it all / or that its not my child but I dont know that 100% for sure.
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Anonymous1You sent me a private message with a link to this chain. Since it is of public interest I take liberties to to post my response here.
Interestingly, I was asked by an attorney yesterday to gather a DNA sample from an unwilling and unsuspecting adult child so that paternity can be established. The issue at hand is only to find a medical history that does not exist between the parents. Since the child is unwilling, it gets real complicated in terms of me following him around in hopes that I can gather a discarded piece of gum, food, drink cup etc, get it to the lab and compare the DNA to the father to see if there is famililial DNA, which presumably won’t match to the father on the birth certificate. This is very unusual and I have spent a lot of time trying to talk the client out of this.
Presuming Austrian Law in similar to US law, you have to bring an action in the family courts for the purposes of establishing paternity. In many cases in the US, if the mother is on state aid such as medicaid, food stamps etc, the state will bring it’s own action against the suspected father to force him to pay support so the state is not completely on the hook. If you establish paternity through family court then you are right in line to have the courts set up your rights to visitation etc. The gift that keeps on giving because you’ll be paying child support as well.
I don’t generally voice an opinion as to whether your journey is a wise one, but understand once done it can’t be undone. Not only will you have a relationship with a child you don’t know, you will forever be tied to the mother, which sounds like it could be problematic.
I have a saying. The divorce last a lot longer than the marriage. What the means is in matters of parenting there is a constant fight over who has control. A little scrape on the knee, you’re in court. Want to make schooling decisions? Be prepared to go to court. Want to take unscheduled vacation with the bundle of joy, be prepared to go to court. In the best possible world adults would co-parent cohesively, I would love it if that happened.
I get cases where one parent, usually the woman, wants me to follow the other around to see if he drinks and drives, then call the police to report a drunk driver. They want me to catch them doing drugs or visiting prostitutes. This is what you can look forward to as she tries to remove you from any control. I personally won’t do these things because they’re very difficult if not impossible to do.
You don’t need a private investigator, you need a family court lawyer, (solicitor) and a big bank account.
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