Nice Guy Syndrome

[Anonymous 12]

Back in my Nice Guy/Blue Pill days I would notice that about myself a lot. I would expect something in return for my niceness. I realized even back then that I was being a slave of sorts to not only women but my own instincts.

A lot of “Nice Guys” aren’t really nice at all, even “Cucks” are all seeking to get something from women. And when they don’t get it, some of them can be really nasty. They don’t get that the game has not only changed it is as rigged as f~~~ as well.

I also realized that no matter what you choose to be, society will slam you for it, or exploit it or both.

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Anonymous wrote:

Back in my Nice Guy/Blue Pill days I would notice that about myself a lot. I would expect something in return for my niceness. I realized even back then that I was being a slave of sorts to not only women but my own instincts.

A lot of “Nice Guys” aren’t really nice at all, even “Cucks” are all seeking to get something from women. And when they don’t get it, some of them can be really nasty. They don’t get that the game has not only changed it is as rigged as f~~~ as well.

I also realized that no matter what you choose to be, society will slam you for it, or exploit it or both.

Exactly!

Generally speaking, a straight man will not go out of his way to do favors for a man he does not know. On the other hand a straight man will go out of his way to do favors for a woman he does not know. Most “nice” guys are in denial about this. Lets cut the crap, they just want to inseminate her.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[Anonymous 12]

MGTOW_Mike wrote:

Morlock wrote:

Back in my Nice Guy/Blue Pill days I would notice that about myself a lot. I would expect something in return for my niceness. I realized even back then that I was being a slave of sorts to not only women but my own instincts.

A lot of “Nice Guys” aren’t really nice at all, even “Cucks” are all seeking to get something from women. And when they don’t get it, some of them can be really nasty. They don’t get that the game has not only changed it is as rigged as f~~~ as well.

I also realized that no matter what you choose to be, society will slam you for it, or exploit it or both.

Exactly!

Generally speaking, a straight man will not go out of his way to do favors for a man he does not know. On the other hand a straight man will go out of his way to do favors for a woman he does not know. Most “nice” guys are in denial about this. Lets cut the crap, they just want to inseminate her.

And the better looking or more slutty dressed the woman is the more they want to inseminate, errrr… help her! Not too many ugly chicks getting offers of assistance with their flat tyres etc.

Again I will use my former Blue Pill self as an example. Good looking young chick = I want to help, even if she appears to be doing just fine!!

Ugly chick on fire = What chick, what fire?

[Bloody HeartlandParticipant 693]

I seem to remember a time not too long ago that marriage was built on the idea that one would provide resources and security, and the other would provide offspring and take care of their needs in return. To put it simply: a business transaction. Just because women have shown they can’t be trusted doesn’t change this fact, and doesn’t mean any bs blue pill notions of romance any less false. Lastly, Bill’s argument about alimony would not matter one bit if wives were once again property of their husbands rather than the government.

As far as “doing the right thing” goes, instead of being nice, you have to have an objective standard first. I thought we as MGTOW rejected nonsense like being a “real man”? If we strip things down to basics, the only right thing you might do is make sure our species survives. Being nice doesn’t necessarily mean you’re seeking approval, just means that you’re following what humans have used as a means of reproduction for as long as we’ve been around.

"I have the fury of my own momentum." "With this ring I thee wed. Fire walk with me."

[JakeParticipant 908]

nice guys learn and become assholes . I was nice because I enjoyed it, not to get laid the sex angle just ruins it.

[WarloccParticipant 204]

OldBill wrote:

Ranger One wrote:

Women are as loyal as whatever options they think they have.

If anyone takes away anything from this thread, THIS is what they should take away.

In just a single sentence, Ranger explained what I’ve failed to do in several posts.

Mike’s addendum is just as important. A non-Western woman may be more loyal at first but, once she learns what she can legally get away with, she’s as bad as a Western woman if not worse.

On that, we can all definitely agree.

Bloody Heartland wrote:

I seem to remember a time not too long ago that marriage was built on the idea that one would provide resources and security, and the other would provide offspring and take care of their needs in return.

That’s why I have trouble blaming those blue pill nice guys. They still think it’s how marriage works.

Either way, all the back and forth in this thread has been great. Good reading.

[The Wall®Participant 655]

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[QuellParticipant 2538]

Let’s break down this nice guy term further:

An alpha male chad usually doesn’t have a pleasant disposition. They simply impose their will and viewpoint by virtue of having bigger and better genes. They don’t have to be nice for people to listen to them or follow them; their natural pull of attraction does the work for them.

Nice or pleasant people usually don’t any real attraction to them both romantically or otherwise therefore they believe that by acting nice people will be follow them or let them have their way: DEAD WRONG.

You should lie, cheat and steal your happy ass to get what you want because you sure as hell bet those in charge will push you around if you don’t. “Being Nice” is a way to control people into doing staying subservient.

Easier said than done to reverse years of programming though.

[Anonymous 38]

OldBill wrote:

Warlocc wrote:

But really, why is it such an unreasonable thing to expect some kind of return for spending time, money, and effort?

Yes it is, you blue pilled simp. No one, be they man or woman, owes you anything.

Life isn’t a series of business transactions.

Actually one could say that is exactly what life is.

Which is not to say that the transactions are fair or just. But they are transactions nonetheless.

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