My own way

[YoungGladiator17Participant 18]

I understand what you are saying, but how can I lose my virginity without a girlfriend or a woman in my life? I find the ideals of MGTOW very cool and helpful in dealing with my own life, but I want to have sex.

[Anonymous 3]

No one is going to blame you for wanting to have sex,Young Gladiator. I’m sure you can figure out a way.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Tower wrote something last year about how a man’s soul is like a roll of toilet paper that gets used up when we are in a RelationS~~~ with a woman. In time and with continued interaction with her, what remains of a man’s soul is just an empty cardboard roll.

On a positive note, there is a different road which is rarely traveled these days, the MGTOW Monk. I have been fortunate to have personally known a Natural Born MGTOW. He has been that way his whole life and a MGTOW Monk for most of it. In some of my replies within the Forums, I have written about him and described him as my Mentor Dave, the man with a wonderful Soul.

Lately, I have posted that Natural Born MGTOWs like Dave are the real “Unicorns.” I have often described how outstanding he is as a man and how magical his life has been. Anyone who spends time with Dave becomes a better person and their Souls become brighter.

Former Blue Pill Slaves like myself who are on the MGTOW Road are just trying to salvage what is left of our Souls. Most of us have learned our MGTOW lessons the hard way. We are not interested in going back to the Plantation nor suffering the ravings of fools who believe they can deal with womyn.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Anonymous 3]

No emotional commitment & subtle disregard is the best I can do at this stage of my life, but I firmly recognize: No deal is the best deal.
Only a monk can know the peace of a monk

[Red KnightParticipant 720]

Hey bud,

I’m 30 years old, never had sex, never had much of a relationship with women. But I’m far from unhappy.

Like others have said, I think you are too young and your overall life experience is too narrow to understand the significance of what MGTOW is.

From what I can tell, I can only assume you are under 20 years old, and I get the feeling that you think you are in love with this girl. You’ve watched too much TV. I can tell you with firm confidence that what you are experiencing is not love, or love at first sight. There is no such bulls~~~. You may not and probably do not believe me, or at the very least you have your doubts, but I guarantee you that 10 years from now, maybe even 5 years from now, you are going to look back on this and know that I’m right.

That being said, I believe it’s okay to have some women here and there. I myself have decided that if a woman takes interest in me, she’s gonna know up front that I’m not going to throw my freedom away for her (in other words, no marriage), and if she’s cool with that, then fine. But I will have set the terms beforehand, she will know exactly what my plans are, and if the moment comes that she tries to change my mind, I will drop her out of my life with no regrets. I do NOT look at women as THE source of happiness, and I do not look at them as the meaning of life.

The problems arise when you make women your #1 priority in life. When you have to change your entire life to fit her needs, you’re breaking your back working 100 hours a week to satisfy them with material possessions, you’re not allowed to hang out with the guys or go drinking, you’re not allowed to pursue your hobbies or ambitions, you’re going weeks or months without sexual release at a time, and it’s all about HER, HER, HER…only to find out that on one of her girl’s night outs that she’s f~~~ing some good-looking macho guy behind your back, or worse yet, she ends up moving on to another guy with even more money than you…that’s when you have to step back and think, what the hell’s it all for? I believe this is the point where MGTOW fills in the blanks.

MGTOW is not about hating women. It’s about understanding their nature and understanding that they should not be a primary concern in your life, in the context of modern society. The bottom line here is to avoid building your life around one specific woman, because there is no reward for it. My advice to you is to stay focused on your financial future. Don’t ever chase women, because if you are good looking, successful, and confident in yourself, they will surely be chasing you instead. And when you do become financially successful, don’t ever let a woman trap you into marriage with her, even if she IS genuinely attracted to you. Because if you do, her attraction for you will wane over time as she enslaves you (women become less and less attracted to you the more submissive you become), and she will seek greener pastures and break everything you’ve worked for. I am fortunate enough to say that I have not personally experienced this, but I have seen many examples of this happening as I grew up, even within my own family.

And there’s my $0.02.

Formerly MoneyOverBitches

[autocratParticipant 60]

Don’t bother, guys. YoungGladiator17 is an infiltrator.
https://www.diggitmagazine.com/articles/infiltrating-manosphere-exploration-male-oriented-virtual-communities-inside

[Branched offParticipant 10928]

autocrat wrote:

Don’t bother, guys. YoungGladiator17 is an infiltrator.https://www.diggitmagazine.com/articles/infiltrating-manosphere-exploration-male-oriented-virtual-communities-inside

It was a while ago now, I would let it go. Maybe post an introduction for us?

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[L. EulerParticipant 343]

Dear Young Gladiator,
Well, by now we know who you are, Laura.

L. Euler gave you an appropriate response in the other alias post that you have.
Men don’t hate women ….if you hate half the human race then it is you that are sick.
The reason MGTOW’s go their own way is because it’s not worth losing your whole career over some hashtag unsubstantiated “me too”…even an allegation finishes you if you have political aspirations. Fortunately L. Euler does not have political aspirations …but here’s the rub…I am a doctor and I can tell you first hand, I need the insurance protection of ten million dollars a day. I will not hesitate to charge a patient three times more for what I do in a post-hashtag me too world.( fix groin tears in high powered athletes male and female ) A groin tear at the symphysis pubis can be fixed by US guided PRP injection stabilizing the tears. The reason I won’t hesitate to triple my bill is since after hashtag me too, (I now have ten times the stress) I expect to be sued monthly from just doing my job. Yes, I really do take care of world champions, but the stress level is fantastic.
Seriously, I actually do Einstein level math, just for relaxation. Dealing with divorce attorneys is like getting a root canal everyday.
Now, faced with that level of stress… do you really think men like me are going to put up with “cupcakes” antics. Women thrive on drama, thanks but no thanks. Everyday I put needles into very dangerous places. Sort of the doctor’s doctor who really does “tickle the tail of a dragon”, operative stress yes, but I am a “surgeon” that does not cut, rather an artist with a needle tip that goes into scary places surgeons don’t even dare cut. I perform procedures with ultrasound guidance, zero cutting and the patient is awake. Yes, I can put a needle anywhere, break up calcium, fix tears, do nerve blockades, even get rid of benign nerve tumors, all without cutting.

I am not going to give a “drama queen” the time of day. Women thrive on emotional drama and that is the LAST thing I need when I come home after narrowly missing the aorta or a lung.
Being alone is so peaceful and women don’t get that. The last thing I need is a trivial “honey do” list. Go and hire it.

So, you may think “Where have all the good men gone?” Well, we are busy and women just aren’t the be-all and end all of life.
I can’t begin to tell you how many women want to date a divorced physician, I just want to run and hide.

MGTOW does not imply that women are snakes, but when legal power is allowed to go unchecked, it blossoms into something horrible.
The problem is the legal system and courts DON’T listen to men. All this stuff is about “listen to her” ….well I don’t buy it.
Many past memories are falsely constructed; ask any psychiatrist. Why should one view so totally prevail?
It’s like men have to prove innocence, not the onus on the prosecution anymore. Why is such unconstitutional behaviour allowed?

I am not a lawyer, but I can tell you that the present “third wave feminism” and equality of outcome is not the way to go.
We live in a sad time, where we are so “connected” by IT and yet we are more “alone” than ever.
I am under no illusions that my other half is just around the corner waiting to be met. I think at best 1/20 marriages are even happy and the more wealthy the higher the denominator like 1/50. Who is going to roll the dice with odds like that?
For women, it’s a great deal … for men the divorce assumption is you are always healthy always working and always owe.
This is the slavery plantation that men are subjected to. Do you really think “cupcake” has my skill???
As I said before, she brings a vagina to the table….What else??

L. Euler

[Gravel PitParticipant]

The Manipulated Man wrote:

This white knight break down thing has me in tears lmao!

I doubt the veracity of this whole OP. I guess it’s plausible but at 17 years old, I was not on the internet, I was smoking weed 24/7… trying not to get suspended from school, pussy begging where I could and rebelling against authority. I wasn’t posting online using feminist propaganda words like incel….

Either way. I think the members here handled it. Go suck up to a women, kid, see what happens. See you in 10 years when you ‘get’ it.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

https://www.diggitmagazine.com/articles/infiltrating-manosphere-exploration-male-oriented-virtual-communities-inside

LOL, yup I was right. trust your gut instincts….. jeez…women are so lame..

[Zool67Participant 29]

Greetings Young Gladiator.

You are very young, and I’m guessing recently started at University? Feeling isolated. No self belief.
What you need is friends. Male friends. Buddies. Mates. Comrades.
This Laura is likely as lovely as you say, and is pleasant to everyone. Doesn’t mean she even knows your name.
This site and the Manosphere in general can teach you things you desperately need to know at your stage, things I desperately needed to know when I was your age. Learn these lessons. Learn Briffault’s Law and the 80/20 rule as starting points.
Your infatuation with Laura will prove transient, I promise you. There are many Lauras.
Learning to deal with women requires time and experience. While gaining that experience remember how much danger you could be in and act accordingly.
I wish you go old fortune, Young Gladiator.

[Zool67Participant 29]

Good fortune, obviously!

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

YoungGladiator17 wrote:

This is my story. This is my life. I want to go my own way but I also want to have a wife and a family. Women are strong and independent, my mother raised four kids by herself, she is my hero. I’m morally conflicted.

You can’t have both. You can either be a wage slave / pay pig , or you can go your own way. That fantasy of a wife and kids with pets in the suburbs died in 1950. We doubled the work force (women decided they wanted money and were brainwashed by feminists) which halved wages. Large cities introduced increasing housing regulations that made it impossible to keep up construction with demands, which raised the cost of housing and living in general.

Women are not strong, nor are they independent. They appear to be independent because of the massive welfare state continuously trickling money into their pockets, the five fences protecting them from predators, and the lasso tied to the last dude’s wallet.

If you really want to get married and have kids, remember the mantra: she isn’t your girl, it’s only your turn. She WILL become unhappy and she WILL file for divorce, and the STATE will take half your s~~~ to give it to her, and the other half to pay for the people dipping into your wallet for cupcake.

It’s a TERRIBLE deal. But if you REALLY still want a bite of that apple, good luck. This isn’t the place for you.

Save your money, learn skills, be productive, and buy a f~~~ing doll. Maybe in your lifetime we will have a prototype for the artificial womb and be able to clone eggs from a donor. But that’s the only real shot you have at being an involved father.

My divorce was relatively painless. There are men here who had it significantly worse than I did–I was basically penniless when I got married and penniless when I got divorced, so there was nothing to take except my TIME, which cannot be given back.

Buy a doll. Get your protector/provider needs satisfied by taking care of and grooming it. Ride it like you stole it. Play poker with your bros, and come home to a dog that will always be happy to see you.

Treat women as if they were radioactive.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

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