My own way

[Anonymous 42]

[Anonymous 7]

YoungGladiator17 wrote:

But are all women like this? I don’t think so. Maybe the ones you met were, but I won’t do this sort of thing for my own girlfriend, she will pay her own bills and I will pay mine.

[ghostParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Lets kick his ass!

He is a young kid who needs a little guidance. That’s all.

[CoolbreezeParticipant 442]

He wants to believe his frame of reference is right so badly. Constructively- if you enter into any relationship with your current mind state you will soon find out the ways of the world.

[Anonymous 3]

I have read all the posts so far & my heart goes out to this young man, but truly, he is wasting his own time & everybody else’s by continuing to post

[TaxGuyParticipant]

YoungGladiator17 wrote:

TaxGuy wrote:

Hey Young Gladiator. Do us a favor, tell us about your father. Our concern for you is that his fate will become yours. You were raised by your hero single mother. Where was dad?

My dad abandoned me as a child, I tried contacting him many times and he never answered. My mom never kept us apart, he was the one that didn’t want to talk to me. He never paid for anything, my mother struggled to pay bills every month.

OK, this is going to sound mean, and I already know how you are going to answer. But are you SURE about that? Are you 100% bullet in my head if I’m wrong sure that your father abandoned you? Are you 100% positive that your mom didn’t kick his ass out and threaten him with jail time if he ever spoke to you again? Because all she would ever have to do is make a phone call to cops and say he hit her and his ass would be in jail. Maybe she has a restraining order against him and if he has contact with you then he goes to jail.

OK, so here’s my point. Many of the men on this website have been in that exact position. Where the mom files a bulls~~~ restraining order and dad can’t have any contact with his kids. Then he comes on here and talks about how bad it sucks and we talk off a f~~~ing cliff. This isn’t for the faint of heart.

I not trying to sound mean but most guys here don’t really care if you get in the panties of Suzy Rottencrotch. It’s just not really the point of the website to give dating advice.

So, the advice: Do not marry. You will be taking all of the risk. If your marriage goes bad, for you it is a trade-off between your freedom and at least half of everything you’ve ever accumulated. For her it will be BOTH freedom and half of your s~~~. The decision is a little easier for her than it is for you. Also, if you don’t go along with everything she wants in the divorce, all she has to do is scratch herself and call the cops and say you did it (THE ONE PHONE CALL). Then your dumb ass is in jail.

The law is completely stacked against a man. But hey, I’m sure your girl is different.

Good luck, and I really do mean that. Just be careful.

Order the good wine

[GregB0Participant]

ghost wrote:

He is a young kid who needs a little guidance. That’s all.

Absolutely Gambit but you know how the site can be when patience wears thin and folks start thinking about Peter Pan or Dennis or any number of other “new members.” MGTOW.com is definitely not for the uninitiated Man to join as it will not give you any instructions from Life’s “Play Book of Misery, Pain and Frustration.”

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Off topic, an absolutely fantastic “Muslim” post, great reading and I hope it winds up on the TOP GUN forum section.

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[ghostParticipant]

YoungGladiator17 wrote:

My dad abandoned me as a child, I tried contacting him many times and he never answered. My mom never kept us apart, he was the one that didn’t want to talk to me. He never paid for anything, my mother struggled to pay bills every month.

Use this as your motivation to improve your life.

[Anonymous 3]

OK take this for what its worth.
You will choose a girlfriend from out of your neediness. She will recognize this & just like a fresh thoroughbred race horse you will b run until you are used up & then sold for dogfood

[ghostParticipant]

GregB0 wrote:

Absolutely Gambit but you know how the site can be when patience wears thin and folks start thinking about Peter Pan or Dennis or any number of other “new members.” MGTOW.com is definitely not for the uninitiated Man to join as it will not give you any instructions from Life’s “Play Book of Misery, Pain and Frustration.”

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Off topic, an absolutely fantastic “Muslim” post, great reading and I hope it winds up on the TOP GUN forum section.

Yes, I see where you are coming from. After he said he was raised without his father, I understood why he might feel the way he does right now.

Thanks on the “Muslim” post. I think I got a lot more than I bargained for but I am glad you found it useful.

[YoungGladiator17Participant 18]

TaxGuy wrote:

But are you SURE about that?

Yes! He was never in the picture because he never wanted to.

[CoolbreezeParticipant 442]

ghost wrote:

YoungGladiator17 wrote:
My dad abandoned me as a child, I tried contacting him many times and he never answered. My mom never kept us apart, he was the one that didn’t want to talk to me. He never paid for anything, my mother struggled to pay bills every month.

God damn if you aren’t me 20 years ago…

It’s a f~~~ing lie man- I didn’t know my dad until I turned 18 and my entire world was turned upside down once I heard his side of the story. Divide and conquer at it’s finest.

You’ve got some soul searching to do and let me tell you the best piece of advice I can muster:
Stay away from women for at least a decade- you have alot of personal work to do.

[YoungGladiator17Participant 18]

GregB0 wrote:

you are going to be lit up

what do you mean?

[Anonymous 42]

ghost wrote:

He is a young kid who needs a little guidance. That’s all.

He reeks of mangina REAL BAD!

The f~~~ing carpet man! He’s spilling clam chowder all over it!

[TaxGuyParticipant]

YoungGladiator17 wrote:

Yes! He was never in the picture because he never wanted to.

Coolbreeze wrote:

It’s a f~~~ing lie man- I didn’t know my dad until I turned 18 and my entire world was turned upside down once I heard his side of the story. Divide and conquer at it’s finest.

Exhibit A.

If you can’t even fathom that your mom MIGHT be something other than a hero, then I’m not sure you want advice here. Not being mean, it just probably isn’t the right forum. “Taking the red pill” means questioning EVERYTHING about what you’ve been told your whole life.

Order the good wine

[Anonymous 42]

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Kiddo listen here, and listen well.

I understand your Feelings about your mother, my mother is my hero too but.

1) your mother is AWALT, your father was probably a good for nothing or your mother turned him crazy… any way AWALT, REMEMBER MEN DONT CHOOSE, women do, in all animal kingdom is the same, male shows off (colorful feathers, big horns, fights”
And female choose to breed or not.

2) grow the f~~~ up, you are looking for a second mother, a girlfriend/wife is not your mother.

3) the only reason you see your mother like that is becouse SHE IS YOUR MOTHER. The only real love a woman can give is to her children. NO WOMAN WILL EVER EVER LOVE YOU, that’s not how it works. (See briffault law)

4) you want girls to notice you? Be smart, get money and they will come to you like fly to s~~~. But it’s all about the money not you, and is not worth it.

5) you are not MGTOW at all, just a desperated incel, MGTOW is something else

Good luck kid.
You gonna need it.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[DocParticipant]

Nice one Gambit. 👍

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Hello YG17,

A good Introduction includes descriptions of Red Pills, lessons learned, and something about your actions as a free men. The goal is for the newcomer to establish his Bonafides as a free man, MGTOW.

Sadly, you have provided NO Red Pill descriptions, you have NOT learned any MGTOW lessons, you are being Pusillanimous with your Bonafides, and you have NOT indicated why you believe you are on the MGTOW Road.

If you continue to pigheadedly hold onto your illusions about women, you will suffer. Here is an example in Nature of what will happen to you:

/forums/topic/parasitic-jeweled-wasp-2/

Here is a link to a warning for newcomers about unacceptable Blue Pill behavior:

/forums/topic/list-of-unacceptable-blue-pill-baggage/

Compassionate MGTOWs have taken their valuable time to reach out to you in this Introduction thread with some Tough Love, MGTOW wisdom, and Red Pills.

Nevertheless, no matter how bad your Introduction is, the replies that you have inspired in this thread are Pure Gold.

And I am impressed that you are still respectful to the men who replied and confronted you with the Ugly Truth.

Also, I recognize some mulishness on your part which I can relate to.

In my twenties, I was hooked badly and was easily manipulated by women. The Old Timers who tried to warn me about “Woman’s Nature” were ignored. They appeared to be “Sore Losers” to me at that time.

Here is a link that attempts to discuss chemistry, the curse of Heterosexual Men:

/forums/topic/blue-pill-men-are-really-pheremone-addicts/

Furthermore, your Introduction sheds some light onto something I have been wanting to write about, but I haven’t found the words yet. It is about how our minds play tricks on us when we are under the influence of women. My Post about pheromones was a first attempt to examine this phenomenon.

In Blue Pill Hell, females appear benevolent, wise, loyal, responsible ….

In Blue Pill Hell, our intended “Unicorns” seem to be working hard at being “Good” people.

In Blue Pill Hell, men are judged harshly and too often act out as “Feral.” Those guys seem to be “evil” which is really “Woman’s Nature” being projected onto them.

The other role for Men in Blue Pill Hell is the “White Knight” who is also really an abomination. He is also known as “Captain Save-A-Hoe.”

The Red Pills prove that all of those good qualities are really “Men’s Nature” (benevolent, wise, loyal, responsible, honorable, bold, courageous ….) which we project onto women.

Woman have always been masters of hiding their true nature which is timeless.

All of that nonsense from the Gynocracy that props up women as “Earth Mother Goddesses” while denigrating men is disgraceful!

My favorite movie is “Drive” which came out in 2011.
It does a good job of showing how a MGTOW’s life can be ruined in modern California when he chose to become Cucked and he ultimately behaved like a “White Night.”

Here is a link to watch the movie “Drive” on line:

https://123movies.co/movie/drive/

Anyway, you have found a Gold Mine here at MGTOW.com, so keep digging and try to open up your mind to the Objective Truth.

Hopefully, in time with courage you will understand “Women’s Nature” and appreciate MGTOW Wisdom.

You can help salvage your Introduction by writing about your actions as a free man. Without giving away specifics where others can identify you, answer the following questions about what you are doing with YOUR freedom.

Work/ living situations?

Education/ Training?

(Why did you pick your excellent MGTOW Avatar and name? Are you involved with Paintball, Military, Guns, Martial Arts…?)

Hobbies?

What kind of fun things do YOU do?

Any future projects/ goals?

What were you thinking when you signed up to this web site?

Why do you feel that you are on the MGTOW road?

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[MaddladParticipant 765]

Apart from taking the advice of the men on here who have offered it to you, the first thing i’d do is get rid of this modern sjw/snowflake terminology like INCEL that you use to describe yourself.
Do you think anyone male or female is going to respect you if you dont respect you? The answer is no they wont. You decide what happens to you, no-one else. Just because you havent had sex yet, or think you cant get any, doesnt mean thats what you are. As others have said, once you sort yourself out, work hard, have respect for yourself and dont fall for any blue pill conditioning, you will get plenty of opportunities in sex if you want them. The thing is, you need to be aware of the dangers involved, so if you are legit about wanting to learn and improve yourself, read everything you can on here and take heed of the advice of those willing to offer it.
You will need to sort through what works for you and what doesnt, but only you can decide what is right for you.

Cheers
🙂
M

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