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I liked the manipulated man’s picture. Especially the second one.
It’s really taken a toll on me, and forseeing the future I’m convinced that it’s a good idea to simply tell her, look, I’m not going to marry you. You and your little girl can live with me, if you like….but see, now, I’m thinking that would be futile; why setup a house of cards to get it blown down? Inevitably, they’d both end up moving out back to her mother’s house; it seems to be a much better idea to just end it now,
Listen to your Manstincts. They are never wrong. I watched a man win $20K in a poker hand using his manstincts. I’ve seen a man punch a hole in the wall and not hit a stud. I’ve seen a dog find his way home after getting lost many miles away. Guess what sex the dog was. I’ll give you a hint. He had a f~~~ing dick.
I’ve been in a nearly identical situation, and I KNEW BETTER at the time. Only a few months in I was basically giving her the breakup talk and she was facing away from me crying. I felt bad for hurting her “feelings” and let it lie.
Told her she should get her own place a better job and encouraged independence in her. She actually got a remote job offer and the documentation sat on the table unopened for WEEKS. I told her to take it because it was only a few months. All she did was complain because “we couldn’t be together” and all of that.
2 1/2 years later …. we split and she BLAMES ME for “not letting her have her own identity”.
There were only 2 words I could say to that:
F~~~.
YOU.
If it’s in your gut. DON’T HESITATE. No feeling or remorse. Their “tears” are all BULLS~~~.
“What a terrific advantage a man can have over women…. if he only knew what cold and calculating thoughts are going through her mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears”.
– The Manipulated Man | by Esther Vilar.That’s why ^^^^ “The Manipulated Man” calls himself that. After the book. When I read that line in that book, the situation I just told you about is EXACTLY what I thought of.
Welcome to MGTOW and the Forums. Hope to read more from you.
yeah. I’m learning to go with my gut more often, I’m not a salesman by trade, but when I work a good deal it’s because of what you just said, and manstincts, and…yeah, if I didn’t use my manstincts last night, I’d still be in wonderland. It feels so liberating for her to know that I’m not kidding around.
Here’s something else that disturbs me. So, she has the kid calling her real dad and texting her real dad, but only when she needs stuff, like shoes or clothes. At first, I just thought, well – that’s not right to teach the kid that, because she’s going to start manipulating little boys at school….and that was when I came here
Natural Born MGTOWs are quite rare. Those guys are the real “Unicorns.” They live wonderful lives free of the influences of womyn and their blue pill slaves. It is a blessing to have a Natural Born MGTOW as a friend.
Those of us who have no natural immunity to the “Charms” of woman are lucky to come to the MGTOW Road, even if it was the hard way.
Freed Blue Pill Slaves are always much better off on the MGTOW Road.
Sadly, the scars from living on the “Blue Pill” Plantation are deep.
I was the kind of man who needed the Red Pills to become a free man, MGTOW.
It has been my experience that women’s pheromones produce a profound effect in blue pill men.
It has been proven that good sex creates similar brain chemistry to heroin.
I now believe that most Blue Pill men are really Pheromone addicts.
Heart break is really just a symptom of withdrawal.
Womyn’s manipulations and lies would have little effect without their Pheromones.
A Blue Pill man’s mind will use all of its available resources, creativity, and ideological constructs to justify the addiction.
I have come to believe that man’s enslavement to women and to THEIR children is primarily about chemistry. Everything else is an illusion.
On the surface we all like to talk about the mind, emotions, and soul. But deep down, we are no better than Dogs sniffing each other’s butts.
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
Well, that was brutal. Never actually heard an authentic cry, though…She’s not gonna tell me. It’s probably somebody at her job who is married, I don’t really care. I really don’t. I am upset, yes. But the truth is slowly coming to me, I realize she doesn’t care – if she did, she’d be here groveling. She’s the one who f~~~ed up. I’ve groveled.
F~~~ it, I’m sick of it, the little innocent sounding lies that make me out to be the asshole, all the time…I’m sick of it. How in the hell is it really like that? Damn.
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“So why do you want to stay with this woman? Are you afraid of what life will be without her? Are you wanting to have kids of your own? Are you afraid of what other people will think. It can’t be that she makes you happy, because you obviously are not happy. If you ‘get through this’, what’s the big payoff for you. How is marrying this woman suddenly going to make everything good? You don’t trust her and she doesn’t trust you.”
Just so we’re clear, I never, ever wanted to marry her. We’ve always had trust issues so I’ve always thought marriage would be a bad idea; I envisioned us doing something like a family life but not being married.
yeah, it’s done,
I mean she doesn’t have bad hair loss, but she does keep a bottle of rogaine in the bathroom. “You bald bitch,., I loved you”- glad all that’s done. It hurts, I’m not even going to pretend it doesn’t, I cried like a lil bitch but you know what? i’m done with her ass. I blocked her, and I’m not answering her phone calls. She owes me 160 for a tire, but whatever, most important thing DO NOT ANSWER THE PHONE
I’m in my carport, and I hear my phone ring. I grab it, it’s about 7PM, and I heard a cry unlike any other I’ve heard before. She’s in excellent health and has never made this gasping noise around me before, but she started hyperventilating and the first thing I thought about was, it’s a trick. But I kept listening and said, “Honey, are you serious? What’s wrong?” and I seriously think there’s a chance she may have faked it, but she was pretty f~~~ing shook up when I got there. I feel bad because I said, “I wouldn’t be surprised if you were tricking me just to come over” – jesus what a big huge ball of misery this is
She wants to just get in my arms and get close to start somewhere, you know? I guess she thinks all I want is pussy, and I know some guys say that, but that bitch was my friend, too, I thought. Guess she’s friends with him too. I was considering her like that before I realized the blank, perfectly perfect lies. “I haven’t done anything in this relationship, ” =- its 11:44 and she still hasn’t come clean. She was constantly saying that, I haven’t done anything at all. Pathological liar for the lose, I need to post some pics of that Verizon website, so you can see her months and how social networking skyrocketed in feb, (wasn’t me) and she just denies everything. Went over to her place and picked up her iphone, and typed text in app store, and I saw Text Plus – it was on the cloud…got it.
Let me sum this up:
Your a 33 year old college student who gets GPS tracked by a 40 year old single mother of a spoiled princess brat.
She wants you to marry her and 9 months after starting this thread you are still involved with her?
Is this a joke?
Monk
I’ve been with her for almost four years. She has an eight year old little girl from her ex-husband. One year ago to the day, she caught me cheating on her. I was f~~~ing a younger girl
Ex husband? you have been cuckolded by some f~~~ing c~~~ and now you risk being forced to pay child support for some bastard that is not even your own goddamned kid.
You should have hooked up with that college bitch but no you f~~~ing stayed in your relationship.
Ever since then, I’ve been on three different GPS tracking apps; tile, familo and life360. I am a student at a local college
Are you the one paying the house and the bills? if so then why in f~~~ing hell are you on a tracking service? are you f~~~ing cattle or something man?
The little girl calls me daddy, and I do love her; however, she’s a spoiled little f~~~,
You are not her f~~~ing daddy. If she ain’t your kid then you ain’t her daddy.
And why the f~~~ would you love her? i would not love my own daughter none the less someone f~~~ing else’s and especially if it is the daughter of the bitch that put me on 3 different tracking devices.
F~~~. She just called me, and I let it goto voicemail. I’m sure she’s checking the gps, and thinks I’m f~~~ing some chick in a parking lot…but, off I go, to pick her up; she’ll be all smiles, have sex with me, watch a scary movie with me, share a pizza with me…. but…I can’t figure out why…why we’re together after all this s~~~.
This is the only reason you are f~~~ing in that goddamn relationship. You like the sex even thou your brain is clearly telling you to get the f~~~ out of the relationship.
So get the f~~~ out of the relationship man.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
I can see from your posts that you are in pain. Sorry I came down on you for your cheating. I still believe that for me cheating is a deal breaker but everyone must decide for themselves whether to continue a relationship. If she decided to stay with you I can see how she has to learn to trust you again but what she is doing seems like paranoid behavior. She may be the type that cannot trust again and that is not your fault. Stop feeling guilty as you have obviously been made to pay for your transgression. You definitely need to vent with someone, whether It’s here or a close friend, a counselor or bartender.
It seems like your in a toxic relationship and while relationships are supposed to make you happy this one seems to make you miserable. Personally, I would end this dysfunctional relationship but that will be your decision for what is best for you and your mental health.
Hope everything turns out well for you and keep us posted.I can see from your posts that you are in pain. Sorry I came down on you for your cheating. I still believe that for me cheating is a deal breaker but everyone must decide for themselves whether to continue a relationship. If she decided to stay with you I can see how she has to learn to trust you again but what she is doing seems like paranoid behavior. She may be the type that cannot trust again and that is not your fault. Stop feeling guilty as you have obviously been made to pay for your transgression. You definitely need to vent with someone, whether It’s here or a close friend, a counselor or bartender.
It seems like your in a toxic relationship and while relationships are supposed to make you happy this one seems to make you miserable. Personally, I would end this dysfunctional relationship but that will be your decision for what is best for you and your mental health.
Hope everything turns out well for you and keep us posted.Hey, Bob.
The apology is not necessary, but I appreciate the kind gesture. I have always felt that pleasantries can slow the process of anything, so I took no offense. I am in pain. I have been in pain, you see something happened last year, earlier in the year.
There was a phone number who called late at night around 11pm, and it was a text message. she deleted the message, and I never knew anything about it until I checked the BLOCKED list.his number came up on her contacts list as with his name…..So I called it, and it was a black dude, being a dick, he hung up and wouldn’t talk to me after yelling “How that dick taste” – interesting, huh?…She told me, that it was an old friend of hers that she knew, like 5 years before she met me. Haven’t seen him since she knew me, etc. What a load of s~~~. She’s probably seeing this dude whenever.
The thing is, the christmas before that, we got in a huge drag out fight and I found a texting app on her phone, and saw his contact on that app, but saw no messages. I know it was the same guy. I forget which app it was, I just remember a yellow icon I think.
While many of you will say I should’ve ran then, and I knew it was probably a bad situation, I told her that I was gonna come over, and call that guy’s phone number on her phone with her speaking, and ask him certain things. She decided to cry and freak out and I guess I fell victim to the tears. I decided to just say f~~~ it and quit worrying about it like a dumbass. I guess that’s what she wanted.
I am such a sucker
hurt. It’s painful to love that bitch and know she won’t just tell me the truth,id keep her if shed be honestI wish I had a way to get her to just be honest.
All the best,
MamoulianI can see from your posts that you are in pain. Sorry I came down on you for your cheating. I still believe that for me cheating is a deal breaker but everyone must decide for themselves whether to continue a relationship. If she decided to stay with you I can see how she has to learn to trust you again but what she is doing seems like paranoid behavior. She may be the type that cannot trust again and that is not your fault. Stop feeling guilty as you have obviously been made to pay for your transgression. You definitely need to vent with someone, whether It’s here or a close friend, a counselor or bartender.
It seems like your in a toxic relationship and while relationships are supposed to make you happy this one seems to make you miserable. Personally, I would end this dysfunctional relationship but that will be your decision for what is best for you and your mental health.
Hope everything turns out well for you and keep us posted.Hey, Bob.
The apology is not necessary, but I appreciate the kind gesture. I have always felt that pleasantries can slow the process of anything, so I took no offense. I am in pain. I have been in pain, you see something happened last year, earlier in the year.
There was a phone number who called late at night around 11pm, and it was a text message. she deleted the message, and I never knew anything about it until I checked the BLOCKED list.his number came up on her contacts list as with his name…..So I called it, and it was a black dude, being a dick, he hung up and wouldn’t talk to me after yelling “How that dick taste” – interesting, huh?…She told me, that it was an old friend of hers that she knew, like 5 years before she met me. Haven’t seen him since she knew me, etc. What a load of s~~~. She’s probably seeing this dude whenever.
The thing is, the christmas before that, we got in a huge drag out fight and I found a texting app on her phone, and saw his contact on that app, but saw no messages. I know it was the same guy. I forget which app it was, I just remember a yellow icon I think.
While many of you will say I should’ve ran then, and I knew it was probably a bad situation, I told her that I was gonna come over, and call that guy’s phone number on her phone with her speaking, and ask him certain things. She decided to cry and freak out and I guess I fell victim to the tears. I decided to just say f~~~ it and quit worrying about it like a dumbass. I guess that’s what she wanted.
I am such a sucker
hurt. It’s painful to love that bitch and know she won’t just tell me the truth,id keep her if shed be honestI wish I had a way to get her to just be honest.
All the best,
MamoulianFrom what you say she is very likely cheating but don’t expect her to be honest about it. Cheaters are usually liars too so if you’re waiting for her to come clean, it won’t happen. Women are masters at hiding infidelities. Cheaters are very often jealous themselves as she is. Something to do with projecting her guilt unto you. Women are also very big on revenge sex and since she never got over your indiscretion she is probably holding onto a grudge and getting back at you with this other dude.
Whatever the reason, she is a cheating bitch and bad news for you. Remember I said that cheating is a deal breaker and that applies to her too. Add to that her other crazy behavior and you have a danger to your mental health on your hands.
It may hurt at first to break up but not as much as the pain you are going through. You deserve better than that. Make a clean break and get on with your life with someone who is faithful and sane, as rare a that is with women.Good luck.
Welcome. I cannot sympathise with what you are going through.
I can only suggest that you need to look up what and why we are. There are only two scenarios for you – you dump her now or she dumps you later. The latter will happen when she cannot get any more from you or finds some other host.
Until then learn what you need to and how not to make the same mistake again – if you can. Sadly not everyone tries to be MGTOW.
I wish you well.
Anonymous12Mamoulian needs to eat some proper red pills for he still be stuck in blue pill hell.
Not a GHOW, not awakened, and in the wrong spot.
This is not relationship 1×1.
We are not here to, nor able to save you.why is he still playing that piece of Theatre…
dick.
she “has money and comes from wealth”
she “is educated” therefor “has a bright future”if i reversed the sexes and assumed OP has a pussy… the whole story would sound credible.
I would like to pick up what @darkryu said “you act like a pussy” and add
“because you have one”If not, and Mamoulian truly has a Dick…
You will to suffer a lot more before your situation gets better.Because you need to walk through this s~~~storm all alone.
Stop thinking.
Go out there and do it.
Anonymous1Hello, welcome man.
All your writings seem confused, sad, angry, and miserable. You’re in a terrible place. I’ve been there, and it’s not a super feeling. My suggestion is, like many others, follow your instinc and go cold turkey. Try to stop obsessing about her or the relationship. It’s already s~~~ and it will be s~~~ no matter what. Time will not make the relationship better. ‘Doing the right thing’ by letting yourself be slaved by her will not make it better.
Imagine your life without her: how much you can do your hobby, how can you build your career and your own financial freedom. Now focus on those and build your life around those. Stop always trying to put her into those visions. Stop thinking about revenge too, trying or imagining her being miserable without you. It’s irrelevant. Think about yourself
Be very selfish. This is harsh, difficult and painful. But it’s better than after you’re already in your 50s and 60s and hoping that you did these earlier. Come on man.
Start by trying to make another intro. Make it all about YOURself, about what YOU do, what YOU like to do, what makes YOU the best person doing it, why YOU enjoy those. Focus on yourself. Afterwards, read those again.
Wish you all the luck.
Mammalian, firstly, welcome to the forum.
Dude, why are you with this woman like you don’t even have a bond with her? Her daughter is not your child. She will never see you as her daddy. And her mother is playing you. Now I don’t want to go on as it will only repeat what many of the forum’s more experienced members have spelt out. Many of us men feel a strong compulsion to remain with our woman because of the child(ren). But you have no such connection. Ergo, it should be easier on you.
I have a daughter. She’s mine. She lives on the other side of the world. And my estranged wife uses her as a ransom. It’s tough. Consider yourself lucky that you have no such bond.
So you decide to stay for the sex. I understand. She’s a 10, as you say. It may be the last ten you’ll ever meet – that’s what you’re thinking. But you’ve been cuckolded. She’s manipulating you. In the end, she will use the sex as a weapon, and deny you. And she can get you out of the house with a simple phone call. Then all those times that you f~~~ed her and were her God, will be a distant memory and mean nothing, and you’ll be in a worse state than if you got out earlier.
It’s your decision.
To Add: perhaps you should check out Stefan Molyneux’s YouTube channel. He has some great content on why men hook up with single mothers. You may learn something about your past, and why you are compelled by this woman. We already know that her mother is just like her. What are your parents like? The answer to this question will reveal why you are weak in this instance.
So, I left her back in July. The straw the broke the camel’s back was, a great friend and mentor of mine who helped me figure out some very difficult stuff, he told me Ayahuasca was one of the good things he had done. So, he knew a good Shaman who had lots of experience, so I signed up. She wasn’t having it, and fought me tooth and nail about it. I signed up for a yoga place, one month for a cheap price near my house. She freaked about that, and the last time I actually saw her was outside that yoga place, where I got out of her vehicle as she cried.
Figured I’d give you all an update, doing much better now that I got that rock out from under my shoe
Thank you for giving a follow up!! It’s really nice when thread starters do that.
Good for you to unc~~~!
But for f~~~ sake stay away from drugs and “shamans”!
You obviously have very bad judgement. Just admit that to yourself and stay conservative.
Do yoga, meditate, smoke a cigar and have a steak, but for f~~~ sake don’t hang out with weirdos drinking “brew” and hallucinating … seriously dude … seriously !!!!Monk
… a great friend and mentor of mine who helped me figure out some very difficult stuff, he told me Ayahuasca was one of the good things he had done. So, he knew a good Shaman who had lots of experience, so I signed up.
Meister is right.
This is out of the frying pan into the fire.
Whilst legitimate yoga might not actually be a bad idea, drugs and ‘shamans’ means f~~~ed-up, freaked-out cultists.
Congratulations on cutting off a bleeding sore in your life brother.
About the Ayahuasca thing for those who knock it out of hand -it is potentially no bad idea but it would make a terrible regular habit. Hallucinogens taken very occasionally and therapeutically can really open up people’s minds and help them make life changes. I ended a marriage because of what I learned from a terrible magic mushroom trip to hell and back -one of the best dam things I ever did, it helped me look hard at myself at what a spineless cuck I had become. Never taken them before, unlikely to take them again but well, well worth it for the insights, which is why I did it in the first place. I wanted to break down my world and see if it would help me see why I was so unhappy. It worked.
The problem is all those hippies and bums regularly taking hallucinogens for fun to see pretty colours and forget that they have no life while screwing up their minds in the process. They have given the wrong impression about potentially very useful medicines. Medicines are for the sick, they usually screw up healthy people’s lives.
I would not knock the idea gents but I would take in mind that shamen are no better than all other sorts of preacher men, who are no better than women -they want you to pay for their life in return for making you feel better -sometimes.
All a man really needs is to examine himself and sometimes by removing the walls from one’s boxes with a hallucinogen it can be easier -check out recent medical research, this area is just getting going again after the hippies spoiled it all. You are in yourself enough to examine yourself. A bit of help and advice is a good idea and someone to stay with you if you are afraid but you do not need a priest to go before your god and you do not need a shaman to look at yourself.
A man should know himself the good and the bad. If you can do this OK -which most red pill guys can do or they would never have got here then you don’t need the medicine and leave it alone but if a man is at a crisis point and just can’t break out of his self imposed walls, then a halluningen journey to hell and back may be just what he needs, if he is bold enough to try it. It might be a red pill for some.
A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own
The members here upset he cheated show stop it.
He is a man. A young girl threw him some ass and he caught it. Wtf is wrong with that? anyone saying that isn’t thinking clearly. The main reason I could never be married is because I know I wouldn’t turn down a hot piece of ass. Especially if I’ve only been with one other Bih for years.
F~~~ that.So cheating is cool in your book if it’s done by a man? Bulls~~~. Betrayal is wrong whether it’s by a man or a woman.
This attitude is what makes society brand all men as a bunch of unfaithful dogs.No Judgement here. Most wives with hold sex, act like c~~~s and treat husbands like s~~~.
You know the old analogy: If you want your dog to stay on the porch you need to pet him and feed him. If you don’t he will go eat at the neighbor’s house.
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