My instincts tell me to run like hell, but I'm still with her.

[MamoulianParticipant 12]

I’ve been with her for almost four years. She has an eight year old little girl from her ex-husband. One year ago to the day, she caught me cheating on her. I was f~~~ing a younger girl, I’m 33 and she was about 21; she attended my college and, like a fool, I left my cellphone out one night without a lock on it and she found her number. When I got rid of the young chick, she called my girlfriend and burst her bubble.

Ever since then, I’ve been on three different GPS tracking apps; tile, familo and life360. I am a student at a local college, when I get to school, if I don’t immediately login to their wifi, she gets suspect and starts sending me texts, freaked out. She’s convinced that I know how to get around a phone’s wifi service, which I do, but I haven’t. To be completely honest with you guys, the past year I have lived being purely monogamous to only her; it’s been a hard, s~~~ty ride mostly because there’s still zero trust. When it all went down, I told myself, yeah, I’m probably screwed in the trust department. But five, six years maybe, I’ll get it back; now, I’m convinced that I’ll never get it back…The only thing keeping me with this woman is because I love her as a person, but deep down, I feel that it won’t work; yet, I can’t bring myself to leave her, I suppose I’m too weak of an individual to make that choice right now- I will tell you that every time there’s a disagreement or any bulls~~~ between us, I look up posts from this forum, and I smile. I suppose I do this because I know that somewhere, somehow, some guy is living his life without all the bulls~~~ I have to deal with.

Ever since all this went down, my motivation to hit the gym has suffered greatly. I feel like a shell of my former self, I’m still in good shape, but nowhere near the condition I was in when this s~~~ went down. It’s really taken a toll on me, and forseeing the future I’m convinced that it’s a good idea to simply tell her, look, I’m not going to marry you. You and your little girl can live with me, if you like….but see, now, I’m thinking that would be futile; why setup a house of cards to get it blown down? Inevitably, they’d both end up moving out back to her mother’s house; it seems to be a much better idea to just end it now, and let her weep and then find the right kind of sucker to fall for this bulls~~~. See, the thing is, she’s not a typical chick- she’s beautiful, college educated, comes from wealth, has a great job, etc; but still, even with all of those attributes, it’s amazing how even still this equation seems to be wrong in my mind. Freedom and independence are priceless, that I now know: in the beginning it was so simple, but it evolved into this clusterf~~~ situation.

The little girl calls me daddy, and I do love her; however, she’s a spoiled little f~~~, and I guess so, growing up in a million dollar home with granny and pawpaw at arm’s reach will do that to you. Last night, I think, was the icing on the cake. I volunteered to goto a middle school graduation because some little girl who’s a friend of hers was graduating. I come in there and deal with the two hour catholic ordeal without falling asleep. They forgot the card in the car; mom goes to get it. So, I scootch over just a little bit just to be sitting by, well, my kid, right? Wouldn’t you know, that little ungrateful motherf~~~er snubbed me, and asked me to scoot back? Ha, hey s~~~head, I sacrificed my night and came here, for you, you little f~~~. I wanted to tell her that, but of course I would never because I’m a civilized human being. Oh, and then later that night, the neurotic, two-faced grandma who throws feasts for every f~~~ing occasion in a spotless home (and loves to ask me when I’m marrying her daughter…) asked us to goto the grocery store for her. I guess she didn’t look at the weather, because when we came out of that store, let’s just say I’m glad I brought an umbrella; it was a torrential downpour. Of course, I sacrificed my umbrella to the little ungrateful princess, who took it without even a thank you.

Guys, I’ve always prided myself on being able to eat immense amounts of s~~~; I’m no bully, but have always been the J.L. Castillo type; the guy who walks through punishment like it’s nothing, metaphorically. But I just don’t know about this one.

F~~~. She just called me, and I let it goto voicemail. I’m sure she’s checking the gps, and thinks I’m f~~~ing some chick in a parking lot…but, off I go, to pick her up; she’ll be all smiles, have sex with me, watch a scary movie with me, share a pizza with me…. but…I can’t figure out why…why we’re together after all this s~~~.
-Mamoulian-

[Anonymous 42]

My instincts tell me to run like hell, but I’m still with her.

Your reality is going to tell you to stay in hell cause you’re still with her!

#1! remove the f~~~ing digital dog collar and throw it in her f~~~ing face!

#2! You’re being a Mumford O’Crowley for another dudes kid! BAD!

See, the thing is, she’s not a typical chick- she’s beautiful, college educated, comes from wealth, has a great job, etc; but still, even with all of those attributes, it’s amazing how even still this equation seems to be wrong in my mind.

Wake up Neo! The matrix has you, follow the white rabbit..

Mamoulian wrote:

The little girl calls me daddy, and I do love her; however, she’s a spoiled little f~~~, and I guess so, growing up in a million dollar home with granny and pawpaw at arm’s reach will do that to you.

You will NEVER be the man in that environment, you’re just captain Mumford O’Crowley SS Save’a’hoe!

Every word you said is about her! She owns you like a puppet on a string, and she’s jerking the f~~~ing strings making you dance to her tune. Time to douse that guitar with lighter fluid and have a bonfire!

Hey guys I’m gonna need some help here! Another Mumford!

[MamoulianParticipant 12]

ha.

im off.

will check in tomm

[Anonymous 42]

[survivorParticipant 610]

You already know the answer and perhaps you don’t realize it. “Just end it now, and let her weep and then find the right kind of sucker to fall for this.” Send her back to the baby daddy and let him pay the alimony and not you.

“Inevitably, they’d both end up moving out back to her mother’s house.” Here’s the bad news: According to common law marriage in your area you may already be married

“See, the thing is, she’s not a typical chick- she’s beautiful, college educated, comes from wealth, has a great job.” What? Beautiful, rich women aren’t stupid and don’t make awful life decisions? If she’s not typical then why is she a single mom like some welfare queen? Why do money and coming from a rich family equate to good decision making? Women are incapable of making honest, objective decisions.

Let me tell you, I’m 46 and I’m a college teacher and I see the daughters of very successful people everyday; some are gorgeous, others are average; but their looks are irrelevant. They are all still clueless about making decisions and just want to use men as much as possible. I ask them inevitably, what do your parents do? Their mothers are often, but not always, housewives who stay at home and the father she says is a fireman; has his own company; is a CEO; a policeman; or something else that’s fairly respectable and successful. There’s one girl in my class whose father is a city councilman here in the city where I live. She’d be about a 7 on the beauty scale. If she could dress right and put on make up right and quit her smoking and drinking, she could be a 9, but I can see her character and can tell, she doesn’t have it in her. The school attendance office called me and told me once, and then later on a second time, that my student, so-and-so, wouldn’t’ be in class. Since it happened a second time I asked them about it when I went over there to take care of some related business. They said, “Oh, she’s getting an abortion.” And what was that problem the first time, hmmm? Floored me. She looked very, shall we say, pristine; but that was certainly not the case. I see girls who already have the thousand-c~~~-stare at 19 on their faces. She’s still in my class this semester, in 2 of them actually. When she comes in I say to myself, “Ah, the abortion queen has arrived.”

Flee while you can. And check with a lawyer who should be able to give you some counseling for free: The common law marriage laws in your area may already have made you her husband and that girl’s father by default and you don’t even know it. If you did leave you’d have to pay alimony and child support for a kid that isn’t yours and woman you never “officially” married.

"Shot through the heart, and you're to blame, You give love a bad name, I play my part and you play your game, You give love a bad name."--Bon Jovi

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I’m not trying to be an ass here but if you cared for her why did you cheat on her?

Would you be mad if she cheated on you?

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[xlrsnbrgParticipant 1786]

Mamoulian wrote:

The only thing keeping me with this woman is because I love her as a person, but deep down, I feel that it won’t work

Love needs to go both ways. If she truly loved you, she’d want you to be happy. Are you? From your post you sound miserable. You see, she doesn’t really love you. She may say the words, but what she means is that she is in love with being in a relationship with you, and with how it makes her feel.

Mamoulian wrote:

Ha, hey s~~~head, I sacrificed my night and came here, for you, you little f~~~. I wanted to tell her that, but of course I would never because I’m a civilized human being.

Mamoulian wrote:

Guys, I’ve always prided myself on being able to eat immense amounts of s~~~

You are acting like a fool. Have some self respect. You have one life; live it for yourself, not others.

A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

[bobphiloParticipant 1772]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

I’m not trying to be an ass here but if you cared for her why did you cheat on her?

Would you be mad if she cheated on you?

As unpopular as this may be, I’m with brother Jan on this. Cheating sucks whether it’s by a dude or chick. If a girlfriend cheated on me she would totally lose my trust. Why should we guys expect anything else in return? Face it, you screwed up and are now paying the consequences. Learn your lesson and move on to someone else where you have a clean slate.

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

A single mother who have an 8 year old from another man and you with her?lol you are just her wallet wake up

[HitmanParticipant]

friend, don’t be a fool.
broken trust is like a broken ming dynasty vase..unfixable.
make an exit strategy and stick to it.
it’s already over between you two.
accept it .

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Try to keep what’s left of your dignity and walk. Be single.

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

You’re not a pussy, but you sure are ACTING like one. Why are you allowing a bitch to run your life? A “relationship” doesn’t mean that she tells you what to do and you do it. I would NEVER let ANYONE track where I am, let a lone a bitch. Why are you tolerating her s~~~? Texting you like an annoying little bitch if you don’t show up on the WiFi? That’s called harassment. If a guy was doing that to a woman, he would be gutted like a fish and hung out to dry by other women and mangina’s alike.

YOU are your own person. YOU deserve something out of a relationship. You’re not her slave. You can do whatever the f~~~ you want. Once a woman starts acting like this, there’s no hope. But there should have been warning signs WAY before this point. She’s a psycho. Get away from her and don’t let her find you for at least a month. She’s going to try to destroy you once you break up with her. False rape and abuse allegations, pregnancy scares, you name it. You need to get the f~~~ away from this bitch!

[SmeeParticipant 228]

Sorry’ but you’re sounding like a clam.

You claim you love her, but you were cheating on her. Doublestandards or what? If it had been the other way round you’d be slut shaming and quite right too.

Take some resonsibilty, this is an occasion where ‘Man up’ is an acceptable comment.

If you are truly mgtow you’ll make your arrangements, let her know your leaving and go your own way.

Not stay, regardless of the money which you’ve mentioned several times.

If I sound like a self-righteous prick, maybe I am, but as I said, your sounding like an entiltled, selfish clam.

If you’re a Bro, GYOW; if you’re a Ho, just go.

Smee Again

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Always listen to your instincts.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Greetings Manoulian,

Your intro reminds me of Dante’s Inferno. Painful to read and profound at the same time.

You are aware of being in hell but seem to be trapped by many illusions. Here is a poster of how your introduction appears:

Nevertheless, your current level of awareness is a good thing. I look forward to reading more of your posts. Cheers for making it to MGTOW and giving your introduction!

Free men are problem solvers by nature, it is one of the more important things that we use to create civilization. Be prepared to get lots of hard lessons and suggestions on how to climb out of your hell. Continue using this website to prepare yourself for the tasks needed for your freedom.

Many enslaved men are oblivious to their circumstances. As long as they are clueless, they are like a flies wrapped in a cocoon caught in a Black Widow’s spider Web. It is a shame, when red pill awareness happens after the last drop of blood is taken and it is too late.

Alas, too many of my old friends are aware of their dire situations and are resolved to their “fate.” They are happy that I will listen to the story of their demise and tortures. It is interesting that in spite of everything that is happening to them, all of these guys are still trying to sneak around and get “fresh” young pussy.
Here is a poster that reflects their perspective:

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10907]

Welcome to the forums brother. Good Luck with your decision. Please keep us posted.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[firstblood85Participant 111]

Not to flog a dead horse here, but I too agree with the others that are expressing you should leave. One can believe one wants to play these ‘games’ but upon feeling freedom again you will reflect on your current state as quite delusional. The game plays you until there is nothing left, much like contemporary ‘virtual-reality’ it seems interesting at first but at the end of the season nothing was grown, nothing was harvested. Of course no one can convince you of anything other than what you believe, so good luck to you.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I liked the manipulated man’s picture. Especially the second one.

Mamoulian wrote:

It’s really taken a toll on me, and forseeing the future I’m convinced that it’s a good idea to simply tell her, look, I’m not going to marry you. You and your little girl can live with me, if you like….but see, now, I’m thinking that would be futile; why setup a house of cards to get it blown down? Inevitably, they’d both end up moving out back to her mother’s house; it seems to be a much better idea to just end it now,

Listen to your Manstincts. They are never wrong. I watched a man win $20K in a poker hand using his manstincts. I’ve seen a man punch a hole in the wall and not hit a stud. I’ve seen a dog find his way home after getting lost many miles away. Guess what sex the dog was. I’ll give you a hint. He had a f~~~ing dick.

I’ve been in a nearly identical situation, and I KNEW BETTER at the time. Only a few months in I was basically giving her the breakup talk and she was facing away from me crying. I felt bad for hurting her “feelings” and let it lie.

Told her she should get her own place a better job and encouraged independence in her. She actually got a remote job offer and the documentation sat on the table unopened for WEEKS. I told her to take it because it was only a few months. All she did was complain because “we couldn’t be together” and all of that.

2 1/2 years later …. we split and she BLAMES ME for “not letting her have her own identity”.

There were only 2 words I could say to that:

F~~~.

YOU.

If it’s in your gut. DON’T HESITATE. No feeling or remorse. Their “tears” are all BULLS~~~.

“What a terrific advantage a man can have over women…. if he only knew what cold and calculating thoughts are going through her mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears”.
– The Manipulated Man | by Esther Vilar.

That’s why ^^^^ “The Manipulated Man” calls himself that. After the book. When I read that line in that book, the situation I just told you about is EXACTLY what I thought of.

Welcome to MGTOW and the Forums. Hope to read more from you.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

My friend got back together with a single mom who he cheated on last time they broke up.
Now she has upper hand and thinks she can be a bitch and control every aspect of his life. And he’s OK with it because he feels guilty. This is a textbook definition of emotionally abusive relationship.

It’s not a trust issue. Your feeling of guilt will subside, but she’ll never going to give her power back. It’s an excuse to control you and shame you into submission. Run

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[bobphiloParticipant 1772]

Russky wrote:

My friend got back together with a single mom who he cheated on last time they broke up.
Now she has upper hand and thinks she can be a bitch and control every aspect of his life. And he’s OK with it because he feels guilty. This is a textbook definition of emotionally abusive relationship.

It’s not a trust issue. Your feeling of guilt will subside, but she’ll never going to give her power back. It’s an excuse to control you and shame you into submission. Run

He should feel guilty. Cheating is a deal breaker and when trust is betrayed the relationship is over. If she had cheated on him I would say dump the bitch. Well, that works both ways unless one is a hypocrite..

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