My final post

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Anonymous wrote:

Poor KM has grown attached to us !!

What a fate!! Hajaj

That works both ways.

We also volunteer to be the junkyard dogs to defend MGTOW.com in case of attack.

KM is going though the phase of success that I also had.

Suddenly so much work piles up because “everybody wants you” and some customers are p~~~ed off because they think that you don’t see them as “important”.

Sometimes there was no life left between eating and working. But customers don’t see that.
They actually think you are “lazy” and “don’t have control over your business”.

You get advice like “Employ more staff”… Well you know how much that costs and spending 50-70k a year just to keep a handful of housewives from bitching?

I always knew why my competitors “left early”…

(They listened to their wives)

LOL.

KM must keep it efficient (or die).

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Keymaster wrote:

It’s the “trolls” that need “moderation”. Think about that.

They need “Punteration”!

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Anonymous 54]

This place will teach you how to be a F~~~ing Man.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Keymaster wrote:

MGTOW don’t need “moderators”. AT ALL.

I don’t want to moderate them, as any REAL involvement with them is futile.

But getting them away from the conversation instantly (in consent with 5 other senior members) will end this headache once and for all.

We don’t punt members, we just hand them to you for review.

And if one of us abuses that privilege, there is plenty of time for you to intervene.

We could even call that member status like “Paused” or “On hold” or “In Review”… Instead of “Spectator”…

I would prefer “In Review” as this is the least offensive way of saying that someone is “flagged”

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Anonymous 54]

Can I be Boss again for a couple of days?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Gargamel wrote:

I don’t want to moderate them, as any REAL involvement with them is futile.

But getting them away from the conversation instantly (in consent with 5 other senior members) will end this headache once and for all.

We don’t punt members, we just hand them to you for review.

This will be solved – and is 3rd item on the list – after bringing back (and clarifying) the “cancel” and “delete” requests. There was a lot of confusion between them, and we were emailing asking “are you sure?”…. but too many said “I DIDN”T MEAN IT!! DON’T CANCEL/DELETE ME!!”. So we need to implement the “are you sure” ability + confirm before they submit the request – so there is no more question.

To solve the troll problem and keep their drama out of the forums . . .

We’re gonna allow members ( who have good forums karma ) to be able to visit an obvious troll profile and “pause” them from participation if necessary.

ONE guy will not be able to by himself….. but if 3/5/7 (or more) do it , then it will kick in and admin will have to check it out. The logistics and testing are the only reason it’s not in play just yet. But it’s already “done”. This way, the general consensus can decide to silently pause them. You won’t know if anyone else hits the button.

It will be taken very seriously and then you guys can “pause” someone like “Balaam” to do away with these silly unnecessary drama s~~~storms when an admin isn’t around.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

But it’s already “done”. This way, the general consensus can decide to silently pause them. You won’t know if anyone else hits the button.

That is a great plan as you discussed several weeks ago. It will keep it discrete and easy. Glad to hear it will happen.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

Gargamel wrote:

KM, you already do a great job here.

If you knew what I have been up to, you would understand. Damn I wish I could be here more lately…. but if I do that, nothing else will get done. And there is great reason for it.

Funny thing is…. MGTOW don’t need “moderators”. AT ALL. The place functions GREAT with just you guys. When it’s MGTOW/Men only, we don’t need to play referee. None of the genuine MGTOW here are attention-seeking parasites. It’s the “trolls” that need “moderation”. Think about that.

A MGTOW community site that practically runs itself!??
Try and do that someplace else.
It will be a feminist toilet within a week.

It’s quite tremendous that I could even take some time away.
Two years ago, that would be out of the question.

No it’s not “perfect”, but we’re close. Thanks very much.

That goes back to something I said to you on zoom when you told us you HATE moderating this website. Remember? I told you..

“The vast majority of us can get along. Sure, we have our disagreements, but by and large, we can be left alone. That’s 85-90% of the posters. It’s the 10-15% that you have to moderate. The problem children, the trolls, etc. The ones who come on causing a disruption. That’s the only reason you need to moderate.”

And that still rings true. It was proven over the weekend.

But more importantly, the man hours in the forums takes away from production elsewhere. This isn’t our “job” yet. Every minute I spend here, I am NOT working, producing or doing something else. We can’t let the site production be taken over by forums drama. THat’s the worst part about the “trolls”. They take away from production.

Take “Balaam” for example. I ignored that stupid f~~~ and don’t even CARE about him/her. He didn’t get a moment of my attention. Not one second. Because I refuse to allow then to suck my time away. They don’t matter. They HAVE no value. They ADD no value. They just suck it away.

Don’t let the trolls suck your time and attention.

This is precisely the point I tried to make on the forums, and the point I made in zoom while this was going on. By forum members distracting themselves with trolls, it stopped people from making quality threads, and having serious discussions (the normal production on this site) because now all the attention was on the troll and the 4 threads related to him. So our production stopped. Evidenced by the fact that those threads dominated the attention. Besides removing a troublesome member to spectator, this community in my opinion should establish a culture of not responding to those threads. We can’t force anyone, and shouldn’t, I get that. But when members jump on and put a threads to 10 pages, they illustrate the troll’s point, and further VALIDATE the troll. So maybe a solution is to lock the thread?

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

IRuleMe wrote:

Besides removing a troublesome member to spectator, this community in my opinion should establish a culture of not responding to those threads.

I tried to ignore Balaam till the last moment when I saw how he insulted others without shame. And I challenged him… I just couldn’t take it anymore.

Like you see someone picking on others in the schoolyard and go in between and suddenly the troll is on your throat instead…

That “wealthy asshole” who is “trying to be successful”… I then referred back to his introduction… Well that did not fit his plan.

LOL.

Retarded Llama went “I’m out”…

This time he did not get cat pictures. LOL. Never do what enemies expect.

I would have loved to call in the others to “spectatorize” him.

My goal is rather to post quality material but if there is no getting through anyway, I might as well beat on the troll.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Anonymous 54]

Balaam was going to make thread after thread and completley take over the site.

I prevented that.

Now drop it.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

This place will teach you how to be a F~~~ing Man.

I already was one, I think what I want, say what I want, pay my own way, make my own decisions and live by the consequences of those decisions and take responsibility for my actions.

Thanks anyway though.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Anonymous 54]

It’sallbs wrote:

Old Sage wrote:

This place will teach you how to be a F~~~ing Man.

I already was one, I think what I want, say what I want, pay my own way, make my own decisions and live by the consequences of those decisions and take responsibility for my actions.

Thanks anyway though.

Keep workin on it man..
Kidding…

[Anonymous 54]

So who will make the final post, on the final post.

[Prophet MicahParticipant 1972]

Anonymous wrote:

So who will make the final post, on the final post.

That’s exactly what I was wondering.

No Wife - No Strife

[It’sallbsParticipant]

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

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[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Gargamel wrote:

Keymaster wrote:

It’s the “trolls” that need “moderation”. Think about that.

They need “Punteration”!

Gargamel, I’m gonna have to hashtag that too.

#PUNTERATION

It’s already in the search engine.

like #UNC~~~

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Keep workin on it man..

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

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