MGTOW Who Are 30 Years or Older, Answer Me This

[SymoParticipant 42]

Keymaster – that’s great. I’m 44, I don’t generally like to wear jewellery of any sorts, however I have noticed that it becomes a “I just have to ask” question in my work life, co-workers are bad enough, but in time I get to set them straight. It’s only a matter of time before a college will come to work (the only place they can) expressing how generally s~~~ their married life is, lack of money, choices, time poor etc etc. and although I generally don’t rub their noses in it – I always point out that “well that s~~~ don’t fly with me – I will simply NEVER get married”. As my dear grandad said “you f~~~ing bought it – now eat it” LOL

But, well with clients its a little different. Especially bloody women. I can’t tell you how many times I have felt compelled to defend my heterosexuality, its seems to be the first place they go to ‘explain away’ my position., and it disturbs them greatly when they aren’t able to “write me off” because of it – then they REALLY dig in, and wont stop. I have in the past said things like “yeah, AVO’s hey, makes stalking even more of a challenge” or “she will be out of jail soon!” just to end the questioning.

Anyway, I think its a great idea as anyone will just automatically assume I’m married. Its these sorts of ideas that make being MGTOW a resource.

Thanks

Symo

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

I tell them I’m not going to get married and I don’t want kids.

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[KeymasterKeymaster]

Symo wrote:

Keymaster – that’s great. I’m 44, I don’t generally like to wear jewellery of any sorts, however I have noticed that it becomes a “I just have to ask” question in my work life, co-workers are bad enough, but in time I get to set them straight. It’s only a matter of time before a college will come to work (the only place they can) expressing how generally s~~~ their married life is, lack of money, choices, time poor etc etc. and although I generally don’t rub their noses in it – I always point out that “well that s~~~ don’t fly with me – I will simply NEVER get married”. As my dear grandad said “you f~~~ing bought it – now eat it” LOL

I have tried everything. Logic and reason. Statistics. Explaining why. Experiences. It seems every single angle leads them believe that you’re “butthurt”. Even if you’re Clint F~~~ing Eastwood, a woman will grill you… and you have to walk away from her, just to shut her nosey ass up.

/video/mgtow-wisdom-from-clint-eastwood/

Explaining FAILS.

But the “is that a proposal?” line (i left previously) works every time….. and if you deliver it right, she’ll be laughing too. Turn their questions into a joke. Because thats what it is. What kind of a question is “why are you NOT married?” anyway?

It’s sick.

• Why are you NOT married.
• Why are you NOT on Facebook.
• How do I know you’re NOT a rapist.

In every f~~~ing example , she says a few lazy words, and now you’re expected to explain yourself. No. F~~~ her. She shouldn’t even be asking such retarded f~~~ing questions. Suck my c~~~ and make me a lasagna. Then you can ask me “why I am not married”. Not one minute before that. This should be every man’s attitude. Just REFUSE to even answer that s~~~. They are not permitted to discuss it. Punto Finito. Suck my c~~~ and make me a lasagna. ONLY THEN, will I tell you why I am not married.

One of these days a woman will ask when Im not even in a playful mood, and I will just say: “none of your f~~~ing business”. Come to think of it, I might just do exactly that next time and report back with success.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[conscientiaParticipant 6]

Just be plain honest, tell the truth whatever it is. You don’t have to apologise for your views and don’t have to add any modifiers to it to soften the impact.

 

 

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

I’ll repost this with apologies to those who’ve seen it already:

As soul man puts it, “You only catch flak when you’re over the target”… this is a reference to air force bomber crews to remind themselves that the antiaircraft flak they are experiencing, while unpleasant, is also a reassurance that they are correctly executing a mission.

I’m 48 years old and have had some of that myself. I’m professionally successful, debt free, healthy, hetero’ etc, so I’m supposed to be a prime ‘catch’. I got a lot more of it when I was younger. But if you wait it out until early 40s, it wears off as they slowly quietly give up trying. One escaped slave from the planation is worth some effort to recover, but if he stays gone for long enough, it is no longer worth the effort to keep trying to recover him.

In response to the comments like the ones you are getting now, my thoughts were always, “I don’t OWE a relationship with me to any person…and I do not owe the benefits of a relationship with me to any person…”. But that isn’t what I said to them. I was always suspicious of the reasons for the uninvited questions from people into my personal life. I never believed they were asking because they were concerned enough about me to do anything about what they perceived as some sort of weakness in me. They weren’t going to buy drinks for my dates, or houses for my wives. They weren’t asking because they had some secret access to a bunch of worthy women that they were going to generously introduce me to. They were asking because they were pursuing something for themselves.

They wanted me to give them what they saw as a crappy reason for my decisions to as to reassure them for their own decision. I believe most of them made the decision to get married because they were following the herd. Then, after doing so without making the effort to think on it for themselves, for one of the biggest decisions any of us makes in this life, they wanted me to validate that decision for them after the fact.

They may have wanted me to give them a really good reason for my decision that they had not yet thought of themselves. But given a list of very good reasons they had not ever considered, none of them really had the b~~~~ to walk away from the herd and what they would now realize to be the bad decision they’d made for themselves. Pointing out all ways in which the benefits do not justify the risks would have changed nothing for them or for me. So any answer you can I could give to those intrusive questions would either be useless to them, or useless to us.

Realizing this, and arriving at the belief that intrusive questions about things that were really none of their business did not necessarily warrant me to tell them the truth, whole truth and nothing but… I started to change my answer some. In response to ‘why aren’t you married?’, I have started to just answer according to the person who was asking.

Asked by a married man, I would answer, “Well, you know… all the good ones are taken… we can’t all be as lucky as you…”. Though I didn’t really believe that, what’s the harm in offering a glass of ice water to my brother who’s standing in hell…? 😛

Asked by a married female, I would sigh, stare off into space and slowly give this answer with a pained expression on my face, “Well, a good woman is hard to find…” as though I’d really been trying but pathetically failing to join up with the plantation. When you’re offering a glass of ice water to your brother in hell, and Satan invites you in, you yell from a distance, “I’m on my way… ‘be there in a minute… no need to come tracking me… no need to worry… I’m really trying… ‘moving as fast as I can… ‘just a little longer…”. Basically, “no need to chase me. I’m not worth the effort as I’m already on my way…go chase someone else. ANYTHING TO STALL AND THROW THAT BITCH OFF MY TRAIL WHILE I QUIETLY RUN THE OTHER WAY AS FAST AS I CAN… 😛

When asked by a single man, I smile and answer, “I’m holding auditions at my place every Saturday night… so far, no contenders… but the auditions continue…”. Then I ask, “why aren’t YOU married?”. A married man inviting me to hell is one thing. A single man suggesting that I go ahead of him is a different story.

When asked by a single woman, I would see that as the trap or the veiled challenge to a confrontation that it usually is, and answer, “Well, the RIGHT woman is hard to find… not as easy as I thought… Lots of good women out there, but finding the right one is tough… blah blah blah…”. The most important word in the answer is ‘right’. If you say “a ‘good’ woman is hard to find” to a married woman, she takes it as a complement that her hubby is lucky to have her, which is what she already believes and wants to continue to hear anyway. If you say that to a single woman, she can take it as the insulting reality that it is and escalate the challenge… demanding to know what your definition of a good’ woman is… etc etc.

To the single woman, all women are prizes that any man should feel lucky to have. Let her keep believing that. She isn’t going to give it up no matter what you say, so don’t waste those minutes of your life on it. But using the words “right woman” is important because it conveys the message that she is NOT that woman. When pressed beyond that point by a single woman for my definition of ‘right’, my answer was, “Why are you so interested? Are you thinking about getting on your knee, offering me a ring and proposing?”.

I can pretty much promise you that asking that question to a single female, especially in front of her friends, will guarantee that it never comes up from her again… 🙂

If you get the question in any kind of work place environment, from anyone of any marital status, go with the answer for a married female. It shuts down the conversation, gets you off the radar, and gives them the validation that they were looking for, but not honest enough to just come out and ask for directly. You have nothing to gain and much to risk from answering that question honestly in a workplace environment.

Unless you are in the engine room of a combat ship, the depths of a mine, or in the ditches of an oilfield somewhere, it is highly unlikely that your workspace is not already infected with the gynocentric fog that permeates most workspaces in the developed world.

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[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

I am close enough to thirty to reply if you would consider it. Being single does not carry the stigma it once did, so I seriously doubt this will be much of an issue

EnlightenedMGTOW wrote:

As a 22 year old, it’s fairly easy to fly under the radar and conceal that I’m MGTOW. However, it seems as if it would only get more and more difficult to do so as you get older, especially with family and friends you’ve known over the years. How do you respond to women who inquire about your marital status when they see you don’t have a ring on your finger and all of the associated questions that come with it?

I would evade the question with a reply trivialising one’s marital status.

EnlightenedMGTOW wrote:

Is a woman asking you if you are married or not and why enough of a transgression to coldly shut them down?

The question of one’s marital status is generally innocent enough; it only warrants a mild rebuff in keeping with common courtesy. Should the line of questioning persist, a rebuke should be issued and said female should be ignored.

EnlightenedMGTOW wrote:

More importantly, what is your strategy when called out on your single status in a setting where you don’t know anyone there(social setting like a bar) and does it differ from how you would address it with your family or close friends around? (this will be different for those who openly discuss MGTOW and those who are flying under the radar like me).

Needless to say, if I wished to save face, I would put on a performance until I removed myself from the situation.

Note that nowhere in there did I call for having a rational debate or even a lengthy conversation with said female. The modus operandi is to evade the line of questioning via verbal or physical means.

[experiencedParticipant]

Symo wrote, “But, well with clients its a little different. Especially bloody women. I can’t tell you how many times I have felt compelled to defend my heterosexuality, its seems to be the first place they go to ‘explain away’ my position., and it disturbs them greatly when they aren’t able to “write me off” because of it – then they REALLY dig in, and wont stop.”

This is truth, the antithesis of the woman as the innocent mosquito.

The woman knows that as ‘the client’ she can rip Symo and does not hesitate to attempt so, just as the woman who has the upper hand in the courtroom/facebook/gossip……    New guys need to be warned.    All this (tone goes higher+volume lower) “Well that’s just them and ‘let it be’ and ‘kumbaya’ and ‘all the leaves are brown'” -because they’ll steal your last toilet paper as well.

 

 

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Whenever the question does come up which in my case (just 44) is rare enough I usually am quite cool about it and give them the “friendly cold shower” response with a smile in the lines of: “You know, I appreciate you concern, but you may gladly leave that to me, thank you for asking…”.

By the way KeyMaster, I am sure you know the reason why wearing a ring, that looks like a wedding ring, is such a magnet to women or don’t you..? In the end it’s an old unwritten rule really , so let me put it to you (all) this way:

#ironic mode on#

After all hardly any woman ever would buy an “untested” prototype of any product, at least not consciously, but much rather play it safe, aawww bless her..!

#ironic mode off again#

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[KingOfTheSeaParticipant 1270]

Russky wrote:

so you’re saying you’re 22yo man and people ask you about being married?

I’m coming in on 24 and I’ve been asked why I’m not “seriously” dating/married yet for about 3 years now. Area I live in is heavily Mormon populated and my parents are a part of that community so I get asked a lot by people I used to go to church with. Additionally, girls here jump on the c~~~ carousel early and generally get pregnant between 18-22 for the first time. I’ve been able to get around it so far with “I’m focusing on going back to school” or “I have too much I want to do before any of that”, but I’ve flat-out told a few people already that I’m not going to do it. They haven’t bothered to ask why.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

coolsideofthepillow wrote:

It would also be a good idea to act broke so the women who are looking for a mangina with a paycheck leave you the hell alone as well. Just do the exact opposite of what women are attracted to and they will avoid you like the plague lol.

this ;D (just for the record i’m not over 30 so ignore this message if you want)

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Grow long hair, a beard, and wear camouflage and you will not be asked these questions.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

I would say I have had my share of relationships and  l I’m having too much fun now being single and free now.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

So I was having my family over for mothers day (what a disaster, never again) and my 25 year old attorney niece announces that because I only have pictures of men in my house (one of my father and one of my son or which I only have one) I must be gay.

Some people will automatically assume a guy that doesn’t ever have girlfriends must be gay. It’s pure projection by these peeps addicted to the whole false men/women dichotomy that has been sold to the public.

In the public discourse no third way is possible. Either straight or gay but always beginning for some sex. That is some people’s definition of what is is to be a “man” and “man up”. Because the cost off said sex is that they suck your soul out through your asshole and put it on fire.

The carrot is the sex, until you put on the yoke at the wedding then the stick is the long arm of the government taking your stuff and giving some to her and keeping the rest.

They don’t realize that men are superbly logical and are people and can control themselves. Sometimes better than women at some things. I think sublimating feelings about how much sex you are having is one of them.

Call me gay all you want, shame trolls, I’m laughing all the way to the best part of my life I’ve ever had…sans women baggage.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[qeeqoParticipant 1168]

I’m 56 so it’s been a long time since anyone has asked me about that. I find most women couldn’t give a s~~~ whether I live or die so it’s not an issue. I’ve never found that being with a woman made me a social in cast except with their friends who they were shredding me to when I wasn’t present. My guy friends were driven away. I don’t worry about being an outcast. I live me life, and f~~~ anyone who has a negative opinion about it. I don’t give women the time of day and in return they leave me alone so it’s a win win. You don’t owe anyone an explanation about how you choose to live your life.

[Anonymous 42]

EnlightenedMGTOW wrote:

How do you respond to women who inquire about your marital status when they see you don’t have a ring on your finger and all of the associated questions that come with it?

I think it’s hilarious when I fill out paper work that requires your status, the office girls look at each other as if to say, Hmmmm, I wonder why this guy has remained single, I wonder what makes him tick, It’s like they’re programmed to find an emotional scab, and then pick at it! I don’t mind telling them exactly how I feel, I wear my heart on my sleeve, I tell them the same things I tell you guys “EXACTLY”, I’m not ashamed of who I am, nor how I feel; I have a very high intellectual understanding of the world around me (I maintain a high level of situational awareness) I have MGHOW eyes that see into the darkness, and depict the flags before their ever sprung. I see the man as being placed into a miserable existence, one where he would chose to end his own life. An existence of indentured servitude or just plane slavery. How can a man be happy giving his time, effort, income, and overall prosperity to a woman by marriage, only to loose it in this modified socialist crap shoot where the odds are extremely against him, and laws governing marriage serve only to ruin him? Yea, F~~~ that!

My life is not on reserve for some gynocentric (feminist indoctrinated) law shoving woman to spear and gut me like a fish! F~~~ that! double F~~~ THAT, with a cherry on top!

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

– Why are you single?
– Can’t say…I have this problem…
– Oh, what kind of problem?
– Okay…This is embarrassing… don’t tell anybody –  my penis is so big, that women I bed, leave my house before I wake up and never return my phone calls.

)))))

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[VoidraitheParticipant 477]

It has never come up in a meaningful way at work for me. If it did I would answer that “I never found the right person and at this point I no longer care to.”

My younger sister and I are good, we did talk about marriage and even she understands how f~~~ed men are in family court. My Mother used to ask about “any girlfriends etc.” until one I outright said “I tried and after the last relationship I had and the bulls~~~ that (brother), (uncle) and (cousin) got into I’m just not willing to go there. I’ve realized I’m happier now that I have been in 5 years.” That was the last time I heard “Have you got any girlfriends yet?” This Easter I informed my Aunt who i would call a “Woman Going Her Own Way” what I feel and why. She and I had a good talk and at the end of it my Mom had come to listen and at the end of it the only thing she said to me is “At least you will keep all your RRSP’s” (Registered Retirement Savings Plan if you didn’t know) and then suggested I will my assets to my niece and nephew which is what I was already thinking.

[Anonymous 9]

Usually chicks that inquire about your relationship status are interested in f~~~ing, or going on a date of sorts.

If I get a question as such, I always say that I’m single and nothing else.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

EnlightenedMGTOW wrote:

As a 22 year old, it’s fairly easy to fly under the radar and conceal that I’m MGTOW. However, it seems as if it would only get more and more difficult to do so as you get older, especially with family and friends you’ve known over the years.

So don’t bother with any of this “flying under the radar” nonsense. Just straight up tell them you don’t see the value in getting bogged down with a woman. “Why should I get married?”

How do you respond to women who inquire about your marital status when they see you don’t have a ring on your finger and all of the associated questions that come with it? Is a woman asking you if you are married or not and why enough of a transgression to coldly shut them down?

Answer her honestly: You have nothing against women. Women are great special unique snowflakes or whatever. But marriage is nothing but a bad deal for the transfer of property. There is nothing in it for you, so you are not going to do it. Tell her to look at all the men around her: the happiest ones are always the one who never got married.

EnlightenedMGTOW wrote:

How do the older men here avoid becoming social outcasts from choosing to go their own way?

Seriously? It’s the married schmucks who end up being social outcasts. They’re forced into it by their wives. They can’t have any fun unless wifey approves. Their only social life is HER social life. Wanna go out drinking and watch the game? Nope, it’s “bridge night”. Wanna go hunting this weekend? Can’t, because “we” already made plans to go “antiquing”. That new action movie opens tonight. Sorry, can’t go, her sisters are visiting.

Meanwhile the unmarried man who has concentrated on self improvement sees an endless stream of women attempting to fill his social calendar. They see the wealth he has accumulated and will stop at nothing to try to bring that wealth into their own social circle.

Keymaster wrote:

Explaining FAILS.

So turn it right back on them. Ask them, “Why should I get married?” Make them try to explain their position to you, and crush them at every point.

Go on long enough and you can actually see the point where the bearings fail on their hamster wheels.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6408]

EnlightenedMGTOW wrote:

How do you respond to women who inquire about your marital status when they see you don’t have a ring on your finger and all of the associated questions that come with it?

over thirty … although i don’t ever get those questions from women around here because there aren’t any 🙂

however, if one should ever ask, i’ll say “because of a beautiful song i heard many moons ago, i’ll never get married”

… she’ll say,  “what song?”

 

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