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As a 22 year old, it’s fairly easy to fly under the radar and conceal that I’m MGTOW. However, it seems as if it would only get more and more difficult to do so as you get older, especially with family and friends you’ve known over the years.
How do you respond to women who inquire about your marital status when they see you don’t have a ring on your finger and all of the associated questions that come with it? Is a woman asking you if you are married or not and why enough of a transgression to coldly shut them down?
More importantly, what is your strategy when called out on your single status in a setting where you don’t know anyone there(social setting like a bar) and does it differ from how you would address it with your family or close friends around? (this will be different for those who openly discuss MGTOW and those who are flying under the radar like me).
Marriage is the disease, divorce is the cure. MGTOW is the vaccine.
IDK. No one EVER asked me about it – ring or no ring
maybe it’s the stone-cold poker face I have, sheer size or intimidating looks, or something else that prevents other people from f~~~ing with me
so you’re saying you’re 22yo man and people ask you about being married?
are you making this up?proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
You can tell them it’s none of their business because it’s not. Unless these people plan on trying to marry you why would it be? Maybe you can show the study where 70% of the women on dating sites like tinder are either married or have boyfriends. Thanks but no thanks. You don’t have to tell anyone you’re a MGTOW.
"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle
so you’re saying you’re 22yo man and people ask you about being married? are you making this up?
You misunderstand what I’m asking.
Being relatively young and living in a culture where women riding the c~~~ carousel until they hit the wall (using 30 as an arbitrary number) is promoted, it’s very easy to live unhindered by annoying questions about marital status or why I don’t have a gf and if I ever plan to have kids. These questions coming from both family,friends, co-workers, and women I’ve recently met.
How do the older men here avoid becoming social outcasts from choosing to go their own way?
A 35 year old single man who has his life together and no children/wife is sure to garner questions from co-workers or work subordinates when they see he doesn’t have a ring on(women even moreso), family members, friends and women you recently meet through a friend for example or in a social setting.
Much of society(women and the vast majority of men that just so happen to be blue-pillers who are also married/have kids) expect men to either be married, have had a child, or be actively looking for one or both.
Marriage is the disease, divorce is the cure. MGTOW is the vaccine.
Because of some of my work, I wear a uniform, I often get ‘probed by Borg sensors’
When asked I politely inform them that I was married but now happy. I do love another woman, she’s my daughter. That’s where all my money will be going.
That does most of the time. There have been a few that questioned further until I start asking them ….
What’s your net worth? Do you believe in pre nups? Do you think a couple should keep their own money?
However, I do like to play and show them now and then how it could be. On one date I flew a girl from London to France ….. only an hour … and had dinner.
I dated her for 3 weeks until the trap sprung …..
‘When are we going to have a lovely dinner in France again? My best friend wants to come’
I mostly ignore/avoid them as much as possible. They are a huge drain on a mans life force.
so you’re saying you’re 22yo man and people ask you about being married? are you making this up?
You misunderstand what I’m asking. Being relatively young and living in a culture where women riding the c~~~ carousel until they hit the wall (using 30 as an arbitrary number) is promoted, it’s very easy to live unhindered by annoying questions about marital status or why I don’t have a gf and if I ever plan to have kids. These questions coming from both family,friends, co-workers, and women I’ve recently met. Much of society(women and the vast majority of men that just so happen to be blue-pillers) expect men to either be married, have had a child, or be actively looking for one or both.
I believe the best way to respond to this – is to say that you haven’t found your true love just yet. This should satisfy everyone and you won’t be lying when you say it.
proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
Great questions.
when asked why I don’t have a wife, I usually respond , I do still date and am very happy. but it would be nice to have the perfect woman at home.
Be sure to emphasize the word perfect. She will predictably ask you, what a perfect woman is.
This will open the opportunity for chatting, flirting, and achieving whatever it is you want from this woman without risking being in a relationship with her. Because she can never be the perfect woman you describe. But, she can still be desirable physically.
Women frown upon single men. But they are jealous of men who enjoy being single. IMO.
I’m definitely one of the guys that screams MGTOW from the roof tops and I just turned 30. I could honestly care less what other people think but I hardly ever get questioned about my marital status. If I was going to fly under the radar I guess a good tactic would be to just act like a pathetic loser thats desperate to get married but cant find a girl. Then women will walk away gossiping about how they know exactly why your still single lol. It would also be a good idea to act broke so the women who are looking for a mangina with a paycheck leave you the hell alone as well. Just do the exact opposite of what women are attracted to and they will avoid you like the plague lol.
As a 22 year old, it’s fairly easy to fly under the radar and conceal that I’m MGTOW. However, it seems as if it would only get more and more difficult to do so as you get older, especially with family and friends you’ve known over the years. How do you respond to women who inquire about your marital status when they see you don’t have a ring on your finger and all of the associated questions that come with it? Is a woman asking you if you are married or not and why enough of a transgression to coldly shut them down? More importantly, what is your strategy when called out on your single status in a setting where you don’t know anyone there(social setting like a bar) and does it differ from how you would address it with your family or close friends around? (this will be different for those who openly discuss MGTOW and those who are flying under the radar like me).
Don’t have to coldly shut them down. I have often used the line “Well I have yet to find a woman who wants to be canonized as a saint for putting up with my s~~~ all the time” This often gets a giggle and they wander off to other more profitable grazing grounds.
In years past I told family “I would not consider marriage until I was financially well off.” Now that I am, I tell them that “I wouldn’t want to get married and bring a child into the world now that I’m 50 and might not be able to be there for them in the future.”
Worked well for me.
If someone asked “are you mghow?” I would say “yup”. However in the blue pill circles, mgtow is so far off their radar that it would never occur to ask. Like Andromeda galaxy off the radar. 🙂
The family hens regard me as the pleasant but odd relative who never seemed to find the right woman, and then turn their attention back to the family spawns to continue their brainwashing.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
I mind my own business, but if pressed on why I am not, I just say I hadn’t had good luck, and I mention two women I knew came down with STDs, not by me, and one had AIDS. I will say life is full of mysteries as to why, and leave it at that. Beyond this, I generally do so much alone anyhow, I don’t get social situations where this comes up. I am not even going to bother to develop a witty list of comebacks as to if they pry more.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
I wear a ring on the finger that would indicate I’m married.
I’m married: To my stock portfolio, my hobbies, my dreams, life goals and aspirations.
And its funny to see how many more hot women approach me in bars when they see the ring.
Funny, and pathetic at the same time.
If you wore a rolex it would probably even worse. LOL
"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle
I wear a ring on the finger that would indicate I’m married. I’m married: To my stock portfolio, my hobbies, my dreams, life goals and aspirations. And its funny to see how many more hot women approach me in bars when they see the ring. Funny, and pathetic at the same time.
LOL… Love it, gonna have to remember that line.
They see the ring and it registers that:
1) a woman regarded his resources as marriage material.
2) If he is marriage material I should take him from her because I deserve his resources more.
Just the way reason works in their minds. 🙂 Derp…
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
If I have to – I tell it straight up: I am a terrible marriage material – I don’t make much money, I won’t spend it on women, I drink, I smoke weed, watch sports, I am an underachiever, I won’t submit to a woman, I like personal freedom, my BS radar is too sensitive. I won’t put up with any women s~~~. I won’t treat anyone like a princess. And I will never marry
Any interest dries up right awayproud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
How do the older men here avoid becoming social outcasts from choosing to go their own way
First off, I limit my contact with my married friends because most have transformed into maginas on the hamster wheel and it’s lamer than lame. Their wives always try to ruin or control any fun. And their wives resent me because I have fun and prove to their husbands that being single can be a great experience.
I like to spend time with open minded people, this is important to me. I would rather be alone than spend time with narrow minded people.
If I am in a crowd that attempts to degrade me somehow, then I will talk about my exciting random lifestyle of travelling, and I do not talk about any women as I never “kiss and tell”.
I explain that many women would attempt to modify my lifestyle and it is not going to happen, when I have finished doing everything I ever wanted, which is a very long list, then maybe I would consider a set of shackles, or you can be more polite depending on the crowd.
I have travelled alone quite a bit and I love it, so many more experiences to be had when you are alone, so random and it makes you feel alive!
Never “kiss and tell” if you are into PUA, when a girl finds out that you are not going to tell anyone, she is more apt to sleep with you because she won’t appear to be a slut to the community. Keep it quiet, bragging accomplishes nothing.
I gave up the PUA and love my new peace and serenity, it’s amazing. But it’s nobody’s business, just tell them you do not kiss and tell.
Just some thoughts, I am sure there are other valid ways to address this….
Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.
The ring is just part of the equation:
Walked into a bar near a drop zone last night. 01: ring on, 02: purebred Maltese in my Jeep parked near the patio (abandoned toy breed left by a slut at my house), 03: skydiving t-shirt on.
F~~~. It was like Attack of the Clits 2015. . . .
Ignoring their nonsense is so much fun
Their ability to try to lock on to my assets, fck my life up and leave their cum on my sheets is prevented by the ones that taught me how the game works years prior.
And regarding the Maltese. . . .if I hear ‘Omigosh! He’s sooooo cute!’ one more time, I’m going to unleash him on the next slut.
His back leg surgery cost more than the ridiculous Coach and Dooney Burke bags those sluts keep their credit cards and money they stole with their vaginas in.
Great questions!
How do you respond to women who inquire about your marital status when they see you don’t have a ring on your finger?
I wear a ring on the 4th finger of my left hand. Its my “Im not having a wedding …. ring”. 18K white gold from Tiffany and company. Bought it for myself years ago. Should have seen the sales lady’s face. “No I don’t need a pair, I just want the one”. You would be shocked what kind of a pussy magnet it is. It actually has the reverse effect of what you might think.
Once, after sex the following morning, a woman asked “So where’s your wife?”.
” I don’t understand the question.”
” You’re wearing a wedding ring”
“What?? that’s not a wedding ring. Wait you thought I was MARRIED and you had sex with me ANYWAY? I think you should leave now.”
It’s the perfect out.
Does wonders in job interviews too. They just assume I am married. I don’t bother correcting them.….. and all of the associated questions that come with it?
If I don’t wear the ring, I get the questions maybe twice a year which is a reminder to wear it more often. But when I don’t wear it, I have a stock response and it works EVERY time:
“Why aren’t you married?”
” Is that a proposal? Where’s the ring??! Since I just met you, it had better be NICE!! Minimum 5 carats and UP!!! And don’t forget to kneel down.”
Gets a laugh every time.
Is a woman asking you if you are married or not and why enough of a transgression to coldly shut them down?
No need with the above line. Use it and enjoy.
More importantly, what is your strategy when called out on your single status
You can’t be “called out on your single status”. 70% of men under 35 are unmarried in the US. That’s the whopping majority. You’re not “weird” anymore. It’s flat out wrong for anyone to think you’re weird for not being married.
does it differ from how you would address it with your family or close friends around?
No. That’s where I would even dial it up a few notches. Feel free to be as creative as you want:
Try: “Married? Why bother, when I can just find a woman who hates me and buy her a house??”
They won’t ask you again.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous3Well most will just think you’re out playing the field and having “fun.” Unless you have a lot of company events that you have to go to, it really won’t come up. At work you may have women that go after you, but it’s easy to brush that off as HR having a policy about it so you can’t do anything. It’s usually important to displace blame to other women in the gynocracy.
Eventually the questions just stop and there’s nothing to worry about. But even a decade or so ago, I knew of bachelors in their 50s and 60s.
But these days there is less and less fulltime work, I can’t imagine it matters at all in temp or contract jobs, and of course if you’re running your own business.
Early 30’s not to bad for me mostly. I’ve avoided the dating scene for a while now.
I work high end STEM which gives me enough status to brush off attempts more easily, I’m no one percenter but have managed to get high enough that I can claim eccentrics at least as far as being single goes. If asked I just say I’m concentrating on my career at the moment.
Also I’m city based, the marriage rate decline is really sharp in my area so as a low 30 something I don’t stick out too much either. It really helps lower the social pressure. With you a decade behind I expect it will get even easier as the decline of marriage has not slowed as yet.
I’m sure I’d probably have a lot more trouble/attention if I went for country living where people know who you are.
I wear a ring on the 4th finger of my left hand. Its my “Im not having a wedding …. ring”. 18K white gold from Tiffany and company. Bought it for myself years ago. Should have seen the sales lady’s face. “No I don’t need a pair, I just want the one”. You would be shocked what kind of a pussy magnet it is. It actually has the reverse effect of what you might think. Once, after sex the following morning, a woman asked “So where’s your wife?”. ” I don’t understand the question.” ” You’re wearing a wedding ring” “What?? that’s not a wedding ring. Wait you thought I was MARRIED and you had sex with me ANYWAY? I think you should leave now.” It’s the perfect out. Does wonders in job interviews too. They just assume I am married. I don’t bother correcting them.
Now that’s just brilliant KeyMaster
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