MGTOW or Marriage ?

[The_Meek_OneParticipant 30]

Anonymous wrote:

i guess the smart thing to do is just leave her now, it will hurt me for a while but that is nothing compared to the chaos she will cause me if i continue to stay with her and do get married and have children, i think i am going to stay MGTOW forever now

 

You are playing the odds by just walking away and that’s good. It’s not worth it considering that marriage is nothing more then a crap shoot now. A lot of times we talk about the material value of a marriage, which is to say, losing a house, half of everything, often more, but we forget about the emotional value that comes with it as well. I can attest, a divorce brought about by a women you have a great deal of love for, can cause you a great amount of pain in your heart that goes on for years or a life time. And don’t forget about all the plans and dreams that will go up in smoke on a moments notice. It’s just not worth the gamble to lose everything you have and your emotional stability all in one swift moment. A moment, that will no doubt blind side you when you least expect it.

 

 

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I suggest really finding what your way is, and dedicate to that.  If she knows what this way is, and can support it, then look into it.  If she can’t she has to go.  What I see about MGTOW is a key part of going your own way, about everything else.  Everything in your life has to support it, or you will regret it, and lose power to act.  When you do have a woman, she wants herself to be your way completely, as a norm.  Maybe if she matures, and has her own way, you can hit balance and understand you.

Well, that is my take on it.  Others may tell you differently.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Anonymous 6]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

I suggest really finding what your way is, and dedicate to that.

The thing is, I was already a MGTOW for about 10 years (without realizing it) before i met the girl and i had no interest in looking for a partner up until then, but i was foolishly thinking finding someone else would “complete” me.  I was already complete for those 10 years living a single life, I love that kind of lifestyle because of the peace and simplicity you get, its stress free and i only work 4 days a week to support only me, you do what you want, when you want. Since i have met her my life has become more complicated, and all i want is to revert back to that simple, quiet life that i had before. All i have to do is just stop all contact with her and bingo, I’m free again. She thinks I’m going to marry her and have kids now, but I’m running for the emergency exit as fast as i can, sorry baby but I’m a MGTOW, I always was.

[Anonymous 6]

Guys, I just broke up with her a few hours ago, removed all contact with her and it hurts a little bit. I feel empty but i think that emptiness is actually my freedom being given back. We Skyped everyday for 2-3 hours and were messaging constantly in Facebook. I felt very close to her but I did not love this woman. We have spent about 6 weeks together when I visited her country, She cried a lot as I was saying goodbye on Skype, but i did not want to become soft and try to take her back again while i was watching her cry, so i just hung up the Skype call and that was it. I am glad i was searching the internet for advice on relationships and discovered MGTOW, it really opened my eyes to what is going on in everyday relationships between men and women. She wanted Marriage and children which translates to me  “I want to enslave you, and ruin your life”. I am positive I have done the right thing ending this long distance relationship, I am hurting a little bit so somebody please tell me i have done the right thing.

[Executor MaxwellParticipant 591]

Okay sure that’s easy enough. You did the right thing, boy did you ever.

Still chatting 2-3 hours a day plus messages, you  broke it off while you were still being drowned in honey to weaken you, add in if you have had a limited number of experiences like this it will make it feel worse but you still made what may well have been the best choice of your life there.

With your comment I figure you have to be late 20’s so your going to be left with that sense of emptiness for a bit, but it gets better it really does. However that sensation is going to stick around for a bit, your own mind is trying to screw you over and get you to make kids damn the consequences. Even though it is clear to see from a logical standpoint what a disaster you were looking at the emptiness sensation is going to stick around and try to tell you you missed your chance (it’s a liar); just slide over a sub-forum and take a look /forums/topic/foreign-women-2/

That sense of emptiness is going to start to pass so slowly you don’t really notice until it gets to be so weakened that at some point you will took back and say “what the heck was I thinking, I must have been nuts to think that would have worked out well”.

So yes you did the right thing now just relax and chill or do something you enjoy.

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

Don’t bring her to the west. If you do then your just asking for pain and misery.

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

[KeymasterKeymaster]

No contact / cutting it off abruptly is very painful. You think you can’t handle it, but if you’re determined (and don’t ever cave on the decision), it’s FANTASTIC – and you’ll realize it very quickly.

If you will permit me to make a joke here: “Long distance relationships” CAN work…. if you bang other people.

But putting my serious face on for a moment, DO NOT communicate – or establish / cultivate “relationships” – with women electronically. I swear to Christ, men (including myself! because I did it too!) should be beaten over the head with the baseball bat of reality for that. Figuratively of course. I couldn’t be more emphatic about it.

Under no circumstances is it beneficial for you. Women LOVE it, because they want to be able to choose from THE LARGEST pool of available men , including digital “friends”, orbiters and whatever idiot is stupid enough to hang online for hours at a time with her. Women are for hair to smell, boobs to enjoy and not wasting countless hours of chatting online.

Many times they will sit and chat with you because they are “bored”. But they aren’t really “bored”. They are BORING….. and can’t even entertain themselves without expecting YOU to do it for them.

Remind yourself: In all of human history it was NEVER possible to chat with women online. It’s simply not natural. It also lowers her respect for you. The longer she keeps you online and in a “long distance relationship” the less you are unable to do anything really productive – including having some FUN and getting some trim, or building your business.

GIVE HER THE GIFT OF MISSING YOU.

“She wants marriage and children”. But does she want marriage and children WITH YOU??? I can’t even tell you the % of women who say “I’m ready to get married now”… or “I really want to be married” while having no prospects, no boyfriend, and no man is proposing. This, to me, is one of the most whacked and stupid things I hear women say ALL THE TIME. They clasp their hands together and announce that they want marriage and kids too some non-existent phantom, and they haven’t even met the guy yet. That reduces any man down to ATM, sperm donor and human wallet. Doesn’t matter WHO he is, just as long as she gets her goddam wedding.

You know how many women wanted to marry me? Probably 13-15 I could have married – at least pushed for the subject and discussion. Many of them married someone else. A man will go through 100 women and not be able to find a single, marriagable one. It’s not unusual for a woman to want to marry ONE boyfriend….. then the NEXT one…. then the very NEXT one…. then the very NEXT one. Doesn’t anyone else find that so odd? I have seen women marry someone else – after it didn’t work with me. How the f~~~ is that possible? Men don’t date one girl who they want to marry… and if it doesn’t work out with her, he will marry the very next one – unless females are so far apart and infrequent in his life that he will sign a life contract to which ever one will have him.

So when a woman says “I want marriage and children….” wait for her to finish the sentence. If she finishes it with “… with YOU”, then you have something to think about it. But stating “I want marriage and children” is not enough for you to run over there and make her dreams come true. It’s not your responsibility to give a woman whatever she wants. Beginning a sentence with “I want” is not NEARLY enough.

I can think of 3 women who have stopped at NOTHING to keep me chatting with them online. They wanted e-lationships while they weren’t around. NO. See me personally, or don’t see me at all. It’s policy now, and the reason its policy is because I have been you. I have been the “long distance relationship” guy who got suckered into chatting with chicks online when geography didn’t permit personal interactions. But ONE in particular was the final straw. She worked the guilt because I didn’t want to chat online. So I stuck with it to appease her … and then one day….. BOOM. She was gone. No explanation. Nothing.

What a c~~~. BEGGING me to continue for hours a week to “keep our relationship alive”… and then GONE.
That’s the day I was done with that. And I knew it was wrong at the time!!!

No e-lationships with women online. I don’t care if we are f~~~ing like rabbits and she has to go to another city for a month. She can miss me for a month.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 6]

Thanks for your replies guys, I’m glad its over, I can lay to rest all of the questions in my mind about how to stay in a relationship like this, the amount of planning and bulls~~~ it would have taken if i had done the stupid thing and married her, she was living in Disneyland, she wanted to simply get married, bake 2 or 3 children then walk off into the sunset happily ever after, not being realistic about the whole thing, forgetting about wiping there useless dirty asses for 18 years,  manipulating me like a puppet and spending all of my money.

BTW after reading that other post by Vector a while back  “Marriage, mortgage, kids, f~~~ that s~~~” it influenced me a lot to make the same move he did, to just walk away, I am glad for everybody’s replies on this topic, your support in helping me make this choice has saved me a lot of pain and anguish and probably saved my life.

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