FOREIGN WOMEN

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Please do NOT believe the hype out there that women raised in other cultures are any better. I can speak from experience and I am licking my wounds now. Maybe before they migrate to our shores they carry with them a culture of respect for men, but it quickly evaporates in the cesspool of misandry that exists in the western world. In the past month I have been told to go f~~~ myself (complete with hand gestures and words..in front of her child no less), had objects thrown at me, slept in my car one night merely out of fear and been told I am a heartless SOB. Men, trust me woman are ALL the same. As many have said before, there might be a few good ones out there among the millions..but there also are one two lottery tickets that would provide a nice early retirement for me – both enigmatic goals. I have learned my lesson for good. Love is bulls~~~. We are simply utilities for providing a better life for a gender that is simply too self centered and innately immature to know better. Yesterday I met with my lawyer to start proceedings to end this train wreck. I was told to show kindness and offer her help in starting her new life. Mean time, I have been wiped financially, am an emotional wreck and am counting the days until I can sleep in peace again. Marriage today isn’t worth s~~~.

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

Truthseeker82 wrote:

Maybe before they migrate to our shores they carry with them a culture of respect for men,

What you call is respect is the more tradcon-sided part of gynocentrism. You may think that “traditional women” respect you, but I can assure you that the second you become unable to provide for them, their respect for you goes down the drain.

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[iamblichusParticipant 34]

It’s never a question of cultural upbringing, it’s a question of opportunity. People do what is optimal for them. If she can be a bitch, she will. Before custom penalized this sort of female behavior, and I hate to go there, but approved of even smacking a woman around for stuff you describe. Now of course, that’s not the case (probably for the better). But I don’t think that helps making marriage viable. She’s always going do the bare minimum, always going to have an excuse why she can’t cook, can’t provide sexually, can’t work outside the home, can’t do whatever. It’s the nature of animals to take the road of least resistance and conserve energy. And it takes coercion to make them go the extra mile. It’s just that simple. No one is there to make the woman honor her “traditional” role in marriage, and she can bail anytime and she’s not penalized. Meanwhile, men are still supposed to be the provider, still have to keep the “stiff upper lip”, etc. It’s broken and it can’t be fixed.

[BeeParticipant 700]

The key point is don’t bring them here. What you like about women from other cultures is that they’re more traditional and haven’t been exposed as much to Western values (especially materialism). In her home country, she will probably also be on her best behavior because she knows she is EASILY REPLACEABLE. That ends when you bring them to the US. Our culture is vapid – pretty much it is always about the money. They pick up on that and adapt.

My Filipina wife emigrated to the US with all of her belongings fitting into a carry on sized bag. When she first arrived, she still had the old world values and financial mindset. She spent almost no money. One incident that sticks with me is when she passed up $2 flowers at Wal-Mart because they were too expensive. In her head, she converted that to Pesos, it was almost a day’s wage back home, and that was too much.   Fast forward to today – Filipino Barbie wants a Jeep Wrangler to complement her Mustang GT convertible. She doesn’t want to trade the GT, just park it in the garage. I tell her “You make 30K and have 15K in credit card debt and never have an extra dime. You can’t afford it.” I pay for almost all of our household expenses so I can’t afford it either.

BTW, overseas relationships are primarily money motivated and are mainly about supporting the family back home. I used to think mine was different. It’s not, she’s not. They’re all the same. The way to approach this is that it is cheaper to be a player over there. Don’t buy assets, don’t get married, just rent what you need (the housing, transportation and the woman).

[CheekiBreekiParticipant 1]

I should double it. Being a foreigner myself I can see it even more clearly. Women in my country think about western men like a way out, a bag of money, a ticket to the place where they can quit working. They would marry a foreigner no matter how old or ugly he is as long as he has cash and able to take them away. Men here retire at 60, women at 55. However, average life lenght of a man is 58, woman – 73. This means that most of the men don’t even make it to finally have some rest, they work untill they hit the bucket and their pension money go to women who live for about 18 years after quiting job.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I have known a woman in the Philippines for about a decade now, who is looking for a husband and so on.  She wants to do the wife thing, stay at home and so on (she doesn’t know how to cook, etc… and used to do modeling).  The pattern of hypergamy is still there with there.  It is out in the open, and even if she wants to live very modestly, she isn’t much she can bring to where I am, to enable both of us to do anything.  Stay at home wife is a way to live near poverty, even when making good money, because you now have more than just your mouth to feed, and you are at risk of downsizing.  Maybe you get emotional support out of it.  Maybe you pass your genes on.  But beyond this?  Someone show me otherwise.  Maybe, AT BEST, I have a woman who will seek to be on her best behavior all the time, so she doesn’t lose the meal ticket.  That is a recipe for breeding contempt.  Little chance she is into what I am into, in and of itself either.

So, the hypergamy pattern doesn’t go away at all with a foreign woman.  It is just more out in the open, and clear. And also the helping the extended family out to.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Chuck WowParticipant 141]

Bee wrote:

BTW, overseas relationships are primarily money motivated and are mainly about supporting the family back home. I used to think mine was different. It’s not, she’s not. They’re all the same. The way to approach this is that it is cheaper to be a player over there. Don’t buy assets, don’t get married, just rent what you need (the housing, transportation and the woman).

I travel twice a year to Thailand and you have summed it up perfectly. I plan on retiring there (in about 7-9 years from now) and will rent everything like you said. Thai ladies are great and easy to shag but I have no desire to “take care” of their family and be their ATM machine. Many things are more important to them than their foreign husband/boyfriend: Buddha, family, friends, vehicle, water buffalo, etc.

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