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I must give all due Credit and Honors to Tower, see link:
That was spot on. That was a thread from when I was inactive on the site. Thanks for sharing, Captain MM.
I’m not a gambler, but I would bet a lot of money that she is lying to you about even being pregnant, much less having your baby.
If she doesn’t consent to a DNA test that you can corroborate with the help of a lawyer, forget about it, and her.
If there actually is a DNA test done, and it turns out the DNA matches,
you will have to decide whether you want a relationship with a kid in another country.You don’t owe this woman anything at all. Period.
Which leads me to my last point. I will bet that, if there is no DNA test, or if you are proven to not be the father,
she is still going to continue to hound you because you dumped her.That is the primary reason she contacted you.
Anonymous12And i thought i had a s~~~ty Monday morning.
“submit someone else’s DNA”You guys are THE S~~~.
Anonymous5I’m not a gambler, but I would bet a lot of money that she is lying to you about even being pregnant, much less having your baby.
This made me laugh.
I fell for this scam when I was about 20. I was working in another city for about a month and a few weeks after I came back I got a call from a hamster I’d had a month long relationship with there.
She claimed she needed money for an abortion because I’d got her pregnant. I wired her the money that day.
I found out many years later when she moved to where I was living and started stalking me that she’d just made up the pregnancy claims because she needed the money. I ended up having to involve the police to stop her harassing me.Thank you all very much fellow MGTOW for responding to me. Thanks for all your posts I really appreciate it. Your responses are helping me to come to terms with this.
We are way beyond what’s “right”. Was it “right” for her to unilaterally choose to have a child without asking your consent? Of course not. She doesn’t deserve “right”.
She has the undeserved “right to choose”. You do not. She has the moral responsibility to pay for her choices. You do not.Yes she did not ask for my consent. It was her choice not mine.
she could have terminated the pregnancy and none of this would have been an issue.
They can’t force you to sign the birth cert and they can’t force you to take a paternity test.In this situation this would seem to be the case.
In reality, and legally, she can’t do a lot. She’s in a different country, and the [edited]won’t be sending their version of the Child Support Agency around to your door any time soon. Their Child Support agency CAN make an application for child maintenance from you if you live in a reciprocal country that have legal agreements with them. In reality that’s just a paper tiger: they really can’t do a lot.
My own research suggests this also.
My research shows that there is perhaps a difficult route by which she could get a court order for DNA test to be carried out (i dont see how this could be enforced as we are in different countries) – first i think she would need my name on the birthcert – if i do not respond to the birth registrys email about my name being on the birthcert i think there is an option whereby she can apply for a court to make a judgement on the liklihood of me being the father that then places my name on the birthcert. After which she could apply for a court order for DNA test (which I dont see how could be enforced from differenet countries). After which she could apply for a court order for legal child support. Which would need to be sent to my country where it unlikley to be enforced /collected. As mentioned it seems to be a paper tiger.
Question – i am curious should i just ignore the email from the birth registry (i.e. can silence be interpreted as ‘he is not responding so the court judges he is the likely the father’ and my name is thus placed on the birth cert?) – ie is it better in this case to respond specificially saying i am not the father?
If there is a DNA test then have her send the child’s DNA sample to you for testing that way you know it won’t be fraudulent.
Based on stories/feedback on this website my instinct is to avoid being subject to legal implications and if I am the father to give what financial support I deem fit based on my moral compass (as another poster has described).
As an initial step to find out the truth without getting into legal implications I am considering using a lab that does DNA kits by post (if she even consents to this) – we would each send the lab the sample from each country – it is a ‘peace of mind’ kit – my understanding is that it is not legally binding as the samples are not submitted in a doctors office. Any further thoughts on this guys?
Deny everything and submit someone else’s genetic material for testing! Really increase your odds of getting out of it!
Thanks for this. I think I see your perspective based on the stories of how the legal system is stacked against men. Though how would one even do this when (in the legal scenario) the DNA test is performed in a doctors office?
if [edited] has a good system for taking care of these situations and you have no feelings toward the child then forget it and move on
This seems to be the core of what i must consider.
The important thing to do is to examine yourself and see what your moral compass is telling you to do. Depending on how used to self examination you are this may be straightforward or not. There are layers of hurt and layers of social expectation that will overly and colour what you feel deep down inside. It can take quite some time to come to terms enough with the effect of the other things before you can see clearly your own moral feelings.
Thank you for this.
When it comes to paying money; Women very, very rarely ever dedicate money they receive for a child to the child. it may be a case of “The child and I need a new car” when actually it makes no difference which car the child rides…..When the child has grown up it is unlikely to have actually had a significantly better education or life experiences as a result of your money. You however will have suffered greatly and the mother will have enjoyed her good fortune without actually feeling any gratitude to you -she was only getting what was her right anyway so how dare you feel you have done her any favour.
My personal advice on the money side would be to try to minimise payment… Instead open an account for your child and put into it what you think is fit (possibly what the CSA would have demanded but possibly different). If you present them with the account when they turn 18 or 21 it will kill at a stroke only ill feeling they may have that you never provided for them.Going one’s own way means following one’s own moral compass and that means taking the time to get to know it and see it separate from the other things that appear to affect it.
Thank you for this.
Cheers to everyone here for all your help.
Maybe I am overthinking things with all these questions, but my instinct is to be prepared and to try to think about/cover all the possibilities..
Peace
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but I would bet a lot of money that she is lying to you about even being pregnant, much less having your baby.
I thought this for a long time until I recieved a picture. I guess when I recieve an email from the birth registry that will confrm it. I take it the registry will have checked out the validity (?).
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If you are unsure as to your fatherhood, do not allow your name to go on the birth certificate, at least until a legally acceptable dna test is done. If your name is on the birth cert, then [edited] Govt welfare dept), will do all it can to get you to pay, and they are the most ruthless bastards you will ever come across, even living in another country may not save you from them.
Anonymous12If you are unsure as to your fatherhood, do not allow your name to go on the birth certificate, at least until a legally acceptable dna test is done. If your name is on the birth cert, then [edited], will do all it can to get you to pay, and they are the most ruthless bastards you will ever come across, even living in another country may not save you from them.
do not give your whereabouts. addressm country, anything
even the PC you use to read the emails from can be tracked.
tin foil hat?maybe.
scam?
maybe.a healthy dose of paranoia mixed with other Men s experience helps.
Yes she did not ask for my consent. It was her choice not mine.
Then it’s not your responsibility. Or any obligation on you.
You have to understand that even if it is your DNA this is not your child.
It will never be your child.
You will never have any contact with it or any say in it’s upbringing. Pumpkin will see to that.
You just get the bill. Pumpkin is trying her best to see to that.
F~~~ that. Walk away. See a lawyer. Deny paternity. Fake the DNA. Block. Ignore.
if i do not respond to the birth registrys email about my name being on the birthcert i think there is an option whereby she can apply for a court to make a judgement on the liklihood of me being the father that then places my name on the birthcert.
Ask a lawyer. Deny paternity. The best course might be to reply to the official e-mail with: “I’m not sure who that is, but I know I’m not the father because last I heard that involves sexual intercourse.” Then it becomes he-said-she-said, and short of a DNA test (which you will refuse or fake) there is no way for her to prove you actually f~~~ed her.
if I am the father to give what financial support I deem fit based on my moral compass
That is NOT how it works.
Either you pay nothing or you end up paying what the state deems you should pay. You do not get to choose the amount and are lucky that you have the option to not pay if you fight this. If you pay anything the state will use that as admission of paternity, and then the state will dictate the amount to you. And the amount will be large.
Any further thoughts on this guys?
Get donor DNA to make sure there is no match. Use the mismatch to refuse paternity and refuse any future, more rigorous tests.
Brother do NOT !!! Sign anything. Keep the pressure on her for that DNA test and if it’s a scam it will soon come to light. Don’t fall for her bulls~~~. One thing at a time. Don’t even think of your roll as a parent until it’s time. Good luck.
Peace is > piece.
Anonymous12There. Sidecar had a Machinegun strapped to the sidecar… and he gave you the best drive-by shooting i ever saw.
note not the various items.
The key is the underlying approach to the subject: If you admit knowing her, as in having met her at a bar, you are the father. And you will be taxed to the max, possibly beyond.And still have no place in your Kids life.
either way, you have no say.
stay away.
do not give your whereabouts. addressm country, anything
even the PC you use to read the emails from can be tracked.This would indicate that then I should not respond to the email from the birth registry when I recieve it as I guessing the tracking activates on the email I send them (?).
The best course might be to reply to the official e-mail with: “I’m not sure who that is, but I know I’m not the father because last I heard that involves sexual intercourse.” Then it becomes he-said-she-said, and short of a DNA test (which you will refuse or fake) there is no way for her to prove..
This also makes sense to do. Im guessing though that she would use testimony from her mother that we were an item, but yes she couldnt ‘prove’ intercourse.
it’s not your responsibility. Or any obligation on you.
You have to understand that even if it is your DNA this is not your child.
It will never be your child.
You will never have any contact with it or any say in it’s upbringing. Pumpkin will see to that.
You just get the bill. Pumpkin is trying her best to see to that.
F~~~ that. Walk away. See a lawyer. Deny paternity. Fake the DNA
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That is NOT how it works.
Either you pay nothing or you end up paying what the state deems you should pay. You do not get to choose the amount and are lucky that you have the option to not pay if you fight this. If you pay anything the state will use that as admission of paternity, and then the state will dictate the amount to you. And the amount will be large.
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Get donor DNA to make sure there is no match. Use the mismatch to refuse paternity and refuse any future, more rigorous tests.[/Thank you for your comments Sidecar. Your comments have helped me to get this clear in mind.
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Anonymous12i would use an internet cafe in a city at least an hour away to respond to that email, and then head over to my lawyer:
How much does the enemy know about you already?
her being a narcissist, its not about money only. Your future and mental health are on the line.The key is the underlying approach to the subject: If you admit knowing her, as in having met her at a bar, you are the father. And you will be taxed to the max, possibly beyond.
And still have no place in your Kids life.
either way, you have no say.
stay away.Thanks for this.
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Question – i am curious should i just ignore the email from the birth registry (i.e. can silence be interpreted as ‘he is not responding so the court judges he is the likely the father’ and my name is thus placed on the birth cert?) – ie is it better in this case to respond specificially saying i am not the father?
The best policy is NO COMMUNICATION. Zilch.
* Say nothing
* Sign nothing
* Admit nothing
* NEVER EVER RESPONDBest advice I ever was given was from a professional fraudster who had dealings with all sorts of legal eagles and the like.
“An oral contract ain’t worth the paper it’s written on son.”The best policy is NO COMMUNICATION. Zilch.
* Say nothing
* Sign nothing
* Admit nothing
* NEVER EVER RESPONDThanks. To be clear you are saying that I should not respond to that email to say that i do not consent? That the best policy is too ignore the email. This is my instinct also.
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Christopher, while you have received good advice here, the best of that advice is to consult a lawyer.
We do have a few members that are lawyers. I am mortally certain, however, that we have no members who are lawyers licensed to practice where you live and no members who specialize in international paternity cases.
You’re facing the prospect of decades of child support payments amounting to hundreds of thousands of dollars. This is not a time for advice from amateurs no matter how well meant. The issues you’re facing are deadly serious.
CONSULT A LAWYER.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Christopher, while you have received good advice here, the best of that advice is to consult a lawyer.
Thanks very much Old Bill I am planning to this now. In general the advice I have recieved from the counsellor, friends and MGTOW helping here is that any legal approach is a paper tiger that cannot in reality be implemented as its different countries. But I take your point it would be good now to make sure by speaking to a lawyer.
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But I take your point it would be good now to make sure by speaking to a lawyer.
That’s very good to hear, Christopher.
Yes, the consensus here is that any attempt by her to enforce an international child support order will fail BUT there are two huge provisos inherent in that opinion.
First, as I pointed out earlier no one here is a lawyer specializing in this particular field. While you’ve received well-intended advice, you haven’t got professional advice.
Second and most importantly, making a decision based on what she’s able to do legally now ignores what she may be able to legally in the future.
The laws surrounding marriage, cohabitation, child support, divorce, and the rest are in constant flux. As more men escape the plantation, women and their allies in government are tightening their grip on men. Common law marriage, for example, is not only back but is back with far lower requirements and higher penalties.
You need to legally settle this issue now in accordance with the laws on the books now. You and I can’t predict what laws may be available to her in the future but, going by current trends, it’s almost certain those future laws will give her more power and options.
You must end the issue now before the playing field is tilted even more in her favor.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
I’m not a gambler, but I would bet a lot of money that she is lying to you about even being pregnant, much less having your baby.
Agree.
The OP has already said that she’s a nutjob.
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