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Gravel Pit: Whatever one thinks of immigration, it was not ‘re-opened’ in the 1980’s. There is no sudden increase in the 1980’s, the slope is fairly constant from 1950 to about 1988. You can see a plot of legal immigrants over time here https://www.prb.org/us-migration-trends/ and https://www.migrationpolicy.org/programs/data-hub/charts/Annual-Number-of-US-Legal-Permanent-Residents
There is a big spike from 1988 to 1993, that corresponds to IRCA legislation — giving amnesty to a couple million illegal residents. Maybe that is what you’re referring to?
From the chart, one can see, over the LONG haul (two centuries), legal immigration has been in peaks and troughs (‘waves’), very pronounced. Recent peaks/troughs are much smaller. It’s pretty much been rising continuously since I was born in 1970, and is now about 3 times what it was when I was born (~1.2 MM legals per year).
Nobody complained about an ‘invasion’ of Western European immigrants, because the majority of the native population was of Western European descent. But whitey has often disliked the brown, yellow, and black people!
Wrong. A willful misconstruction of 500 years of history. If “whitey” really didn’t like brown, yellow and black NONE OF YOU WOULD BE HERE. No s~~~. The opposite is true, and in fact, how many “whiteys” f~~~ing died face down in the mud so you could have every human right you enjoy today!? No s~~~ again! (So f~~~ing sick of BLACK MALINGERING and VICTIM NARRATIVE).
Chinese foreign workers
They don’t f~~~ing belong here Frank! It’s called THEFT. A man comes into your home and takes your money and leaves! But we let it happen because we hate Chinese and Indians? Your narrative about Whitey hating everyone holds no water. Then why did we create FREE TRADE and allow FOREIGN WORKERS to come here to America and work for less and take over? No s~~~! Another false argument from your twisted racist ass. YOU HAVEN”T SEEN REAL RACISM FROM WHITES, JUST WAIT! WAIT UNTIL WE”VE HAD ENOUGH. And let me ask you. You think Chinese people are virtuous and tolerant of other races?? (*especially Blacks) ?? They will f~~~ing murder all of you if given the chance you FOOL. Only white people ever gave a s~~~ about giving blacks a chance and giving them equal footing. NO ONE ELSE EVER CARED!!!
misgivings about European morality and civilization
What misgivings? Whites are the only race that has EVER stood up for equal human rights for all (at their own peril). Whites are the only people to have completely sacrificed their own well being and safe society so that all other ethnicities might have a chance at a better life. They freaking killed Kennedy for it. NO S~~~! Youre sooo lucky, you have NO IDEA how whites are the ONLY reason blacks have not been eradicated from the earth.
Why do you think these African immigrants are more successful than typical native-born African-Americans? I would argue it is their culture.
They’re “more successful” because they gained a degree in a foreign land with lower educational standards and less competition. Then they moved to the 1st world and became affirmative action hires who were willing to work for far less than American taught doctors. Same old trick like in any other feild where the true American worker, the American born man was SLAMMED INTO THE F~~~ING DIRT AND HIS LIFE RUINED!!!!! ALL SO THAT SOME FCUKING FOREGN BORN S~~~BAG COULD BUY A $400,000 home in Texas and raise a whole family!!!! Guess who doesn’t have a family? Guess whose genes are going extinct? 6 generations in America going back to the 1700s… completely wiped out! For who? For what? Oh but whitey doesn’t like Yellow people… that makes a lot of sense. Then why did whitey commit suicide so that other races could prosper??
Do you think the colonisation of Africa and the slave trade had a significant impact upon the development of the continent in the succeeding centuries?
Africa is RICH beyond measure with natural resources!!! Gems, Diamonds, Minerals and Resources GALORE!!! They’re sitting on a f~~~ing treasure trove. And guess what happens when you introduce DEMOCRACY and put their own leaders in charge and try to show them how to start a thriving industrial economy with modernity, free markets and easy prosperity… ITS SO EASY becuase of the wealth sitting in their hills, they just need to get organized and dig it up. AND EVERY TIME YOU HELP THEM WHAT HAPPENS?? THEY IMMEDIATELY GO CORRUPT AND START GENOCIDING THEIR OWN PEOPLE. Same exact thing with Mexicans. Mexico has a treasure trove of resources and they make billions off tourism YET THEY ARE POOR…WHY? Because they have no virtues or unity. They murder their own for greed.
Someone had to say it… so I did…
Then why did whitey commit suicide so that other races could prosper??
No one can answer this for me. You see the white birth rate is flatlined. You see clearly that in less than 40 years, Whites will be a minority yet you hear the same old lies over and over again about “white privilege”. What privilege? What inherent racism in the system??
An entire civil war was fought, where 100s of thousands of white men died, FOR ONE REASON, to make good on the statement ‘All Men are Created Equal” and abolish slavery. WHITE MEN DID THAT FOR YOU! Whites are the only people ever in 5000 years of recorded history to do that! Yet all you hear is that white men are racists and that we’re privileged…
And that is not all, WHITE MEN BATTLED POLITICALLY, tooth and nail, to get the Civil Rights Act passed. Where is the THANKS? All I hear is ‘white privilege’ and echoing hatred for white people who aborted their entire genetic future so that all other people could have a solid footing in the 21st century. THEY GET ZERO THANKS. Even worse, they get HATRED for no reason.
White people not only gave up their genetic future but they INVENTED THE MODERN WORLD. Everything YOU use and take for granted was made by a smart white guy. NO S~~~. Thanks whites, thanks for clean water, electricity, automobiles, airplanes, engineering, medicine and FREEDOM. All created by MEN, more precisely WHITE MEN!!!
Sick of seeing so-called MGTOW men here, BASHING WHITES. F~~~ that! I will not hear it any further, especially when I went out of my way to defend blacks and others from alt-right claims. I defended you f~~~ers against actual racists but all I hear is more racism from you. I have a fair view of humanity, not you. Most of you people here are racist as f~~~ ON BOTH SIDES… sick of hearing it, FROM BOTH SIDES.
No one can answer this for me. You see the white birth rate is flatlined. You see clearly that in less than 40 years, Whites will be a minority yet you hear the same old lies over and over again about “white privilege”. What privilege? What inherent racism in the system??
Agreed on privilege. I regard ‘white privilege’ as social justice warrior bulls~~~. The successful blacks, asians, indians (from the subcontinent), cambodians, and other successful minorities I know personally, are poster children of meritocracy.
In my opinion the birthrate has flatlined due to birth control, narcissism, and numerous competing activities.
What most influences outside your control is where and who you are born to. If you are born in a first world country to wealthy parents, you are likely to be wealthy.
An entire civil war was fought, where 100s of thousands of white men died, FOR ONE REASON, to make good on the statement ‘All Men are Created Equal” and abolish slavery. WHITE MEN DID THAT FOR YOU! Whites are the only people ever in 5000 years of recorded history to do that! Yet all you hear is that white men are racists and that we’re privileged…
I would respectfully disagree. After all, the Emancipation Proclamation applied ONLY to territories in rebellion against the Union. In the US it was an uneasy compromise; black slaves counted as a 3/5th of a vote, allocated to their masters.
There are many examples of slave rebellions; take, the servile wars in the Roman Empire. They failed. And died. They were enormous in their scope; in the 3rd servile war, Spartacus led 120,000 bondsmen. Then there was the Zanj rebellion and the liberation of Haiti (though little difference in serfdom under black rule vs slavery under white rule there).
I am AGAINST the civil rights act, because I believe private individuals and companies should be free to discriminate against whomever they please.
Racism is not unique to whites; humanity is tribal. Look at the killings in Rwanda. Or even the rhetoric between the two Statist parties, the Democrats and Republicans. It is an error to view only whites as racist.
They’re “more successful” because they gained a degree in a foreign land with lower educational standards and less competition. Then they moved to the 1st world and became affirmative action hires who were willing to work for far less than American taught doctors.
No. The group I specifically referred to, Nigerians, is the most educated minority in the US. And they were educated here. https://www.chron.com/news/article/Data-show-Nigerians-the-most-educated-in-the-U-S-1600808.php — now why aren’t ‘African Americans’, on average, not so educated and successful as black Nigerians? Because the culture of the black urban underclass is toxic. If their genetics holds them back, then the Nigerians could not be successful.
AND EVERY TIME YOU HELP THEM WHAT HAPPENS?? THEY IMMEDIATELY GO CORRUPT AND START GENOCIDING THEIR OWN PEOPLE. Same exact thing with Mexicans. Mexico has a treasure trove of resources and they make billions off tourism YET THEY ARE POOR…WHY? Because they have no virtues or unity. They murder their own for greed.
Africa would be far more prosperous overall, had the colonial powers retained control and withdrawn only slowly. Why? Because there would be rule of law, and they would have eventually granted rights to the populations.
The media coverage of race is always incendiary and sensational. For much of my childhood I read of the terrible Apartheid system in South Africa. In 50 years, they killed about 8,000 black men. In comparison, Idi Amin, an African dictator, killed 500,000 ; in the Rwandan genocide, 800,000 deaths — 100 times that of Apartheid. This isn’t to belittle the 8,000 deaths, but you have to keep reality in perspective, rather than holding to a ‘narrative’ as does the mass media, of ‘whitey bad black good’. It is most certainly true that coverage of black dictators committing atrocities was scarce, compared to coverage of the Apartheid system.
South Africa had essentially a dictator in Jacob Zuma — but little coverage of him in the Western media.
They will f~~~ing murder all of you if given the chance you FOOL. Only white people ever gave a s~~~ about giving blacks a chance and giving them equal footing.
Many Asians are very racist — South Koreans hate Chinese, Chinese hate Japanese, etc. I’m certainly not blind to that — see it with my own eyes. I believe in giving ALL people EQUAL protection under the law, nothing more, nothing less. That, and ending all the welfare programs that promote multigenerational poverty.
Sorry I s~~~ all over the thread this morning and sorry it was all at you Frank. As consolation, I liked reading what you wrote in the last response. I’m very jaded by the racial strife fueled endlessly by the lying media. I swear to god, there would be damn near no race problems at all if it weren’t for CNN, NBC, ABC etc…
Call me crazy but I was 10 years old in 1996. From my earliest memories all the way to the conclusion of my enlistment in 2007… “race” was a dead issue. Me and my peers got on fine all through gradeschool and the Marines. I grew up LOWER middle class in Albuquerque and in Dallas. Blacks and Mexicans and Whites got along fair to decent! It wasn’t until Obama until SHTF for no reason at all. Now Im so annoyed by all of it. I meet racist blacks every freaking day and they’re my age too. I dont get it. Wait, yes I do get it…black memes and CNN fuel hatred…
What most influences outside your control is where and who you are born to.
Agree to this, and it’s true in many different ways. We’re prisoners of causality.
I am AGAINST the civil rights act, because I believe private individuals and companies should be free to discriminate against whomever they please.
That’s kind of funny to read. Not sure on that one bro.
Because the culture of the black urban underclass is toxic. If their genetics holds them back, then the Nigerians could not be successful.
I don’t disagree at all. I blame MEMES, not GENES for why the world is s~~~. Black’s toxic underclass is wrought full of negative and violent memes. I use the term ‘meme’ in the objective scientific use of the word, it’s original real definition not the lousy new-age crap.
BOTH SIDES need to knock this s~~~ off and start treating fellow humans decently. As long as the lying media can pour gas on a fire… you will continue to see unnecessary racism. THEY are the biggest problem.
Anyway, have a good one…
Can we get back to mocking the human torches in the video?
Sovereignty above all else.
These past few days, I was starting to think…ya know… maybe they’re right. Maybe I should have some compassion for these gentle people we call Mexicans who are getting lit on fire for stealing gas.
And then I saw this:
Tourist has organs ‘stolen’ in Mexico…
And I was reminded of why a country is DEFINED by it’s borders. To keep f~~~ers who do this s~~~ OUT.
Just the vapors alone would be harmful to their lungs if they got near that gas geyser.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
Sky-O: Paradoxically, it is the ILLEGAL immigrants, who consume FEWER government resources. That is because they are INELIGIBLE to receive any social welfare benefits.
Here in California, an illegal alien can use the WIC program and send their kids to public schools. Most of our tax revenue is spent on public schools.
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CFH/DWICSN/Pages/ResearchandData/WICProgramCostInfo.aspx
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
Interesting debate going on here guys. For what it is worth I see it this way:
Humanity is tribal -its the way we evolved as small group hunters. Some of us have a more or less tribal mentality but it is there in us all and I believe we are all racists if we are honest. We all naturally want to keep our resources for us and for our own (this is not a bad thing either). We rightly fear others coming to take them, so we will side with those we can trust, those who share something with us (sometimes on ethnic lines but sometimes on cultural ones and across ethnic ones. Its complicated but it is also simple -we want to support our group who we trust more than the others.
We are all racists. I certainly am and I say that as someone who has lived very closely with other peoples at times in life, had children with women from other races and seen that other races have some qualities better and some worse than my own. What I would suggest though, is that we never lose compassion because just like racism compassion is also a natural human trait. In the end those guys set themselves on fire and that was a bummer for them. I am sorry for them. I wouldn’t be inviting them all into my country to take my people’s resources because I am sorry for them but I won’t mock them in their pain either. If I had been there I would have put them out and given them whatever I had on me towards their medical bills. I expect you guys would have too.
A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own
Sky-O: Paradoxically, it is the ILLEGAL immigrants, who consume FEWER government resources. That is because they are INELIGIBLE to receive any social welfare benefits.
Here in California, an illegal alien can use the WIC program and send their kids to public schools. Most of our tax revenue is spent on public schools.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/09/undocumented-immigrants-wic-nutrition-services-deportation
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CFH/DWICSN/Pages/ResearchandData/WICProgramCostInfo.aspxFrankOne uses facts and figures to back his opinions, Rather than forming opinions from the facts and figures. His figures are always wrong of course. He always uses the tiny exception to represent the norm. It’s rather annoying and pety, and I just ignore it.
If I had been there I would have put them out and given them whatever I had on me towards their medical bills.
No offense, but then you would have gotten burned along with them as they would have grabbed on to you and not let you go, and robbed of the rest of your money. That’s compassion. That’s why we are in this mess – compassion from white guys.
People drown all the time trying to save people who can’t swim. They pull you down because they are so uneducated they don’t know any better.
I agree with you on racism though. Racism is a GOOD thing. We should all be racist – it is our most natural state, and makes for a happy culture. Incidentally, the white race is just as racist as every other race – it’s just racist toward itself, but nevertheless, still completely racist. We are a backward people now.
‘An entire civil war was fought’ –
01: To enforce tariffs (it was fundamentally a trade war)
02: Allow northern mercantilist to control southern raw materials like cotton
03: To increase the power of the Federal government
04: To destroy the principles of state soveriegnty
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Lincoln did not issue the Emancipation Proclamation until 2.5 years into the war. And it only applied to states that had already left the former union so he had no authority to enforce it.
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In 1865, the northern states had succeeded in ‘Freeing slaves’ while simultaneously, enslaving free men. As the south was subjegated on multiple levels both financially & politically following it being conquered. It is no accident that the state that the Confederate president came from in 1860, now 159 years later is currently the poorest state in the US. Mississippi. Old grudges still remain at the federal level.
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And in closing. Jefferson Davis was imprisoned for treason for two years after the war. A crime punishable by death. But realsee after two years. Without a trial.
There is a reason that there was not a trial:
Because the federal government would have lost it’s case against him since the southern states did in fact have a legal and constitutional right to secede and the actions taken by the northern states from 1860 – 1865 we’re completely illegal and unconstitutional.
Can we get back to mocking the human torches in the video?
Sure !
To further clarify my previous statement, ‘After all, the Emancipation Proclamation applied ONLY to territories in rebellion against the Union. In the US it was an uneasy compromise; black slaves counted as a 3/5th of a vote, allocated to their masters.’, the Proclamation did NOT apply to the border states fighting with the Union, OR to Southern territories already under Union control.
Sky-O writes: In 1865, the northern states had succeeded in ‘Freeing slaves’ while simultaneously, enslaving free men. As the south was subjugated on multiple levels both financially & politically following it being conquered. It is no accident that the state that the Confederate president came from in 1860, now 159 years later is currently the poorest state in the US. Mississippi. Old grudges still remain at the federal level.
Had Lincoln NOT been assassinated, you likely would have seen a less punitive Reconstruction of the South. In my view, NOT subdividing the plantations into 40 acre plots and giving them to the freedmen (the old 40 acres of Sherman’s Special Field Order No. 15), made many freed slaves little more than serfs under the Wage Labor system.
All wars typically greatly increase the POWER of the State. After major wars, government as a percent of GDP, goes UP, and usually, never falls back to its level pre-war. It is interesting to look at a plot of this spending vs time. https://www.cato.org/blog/federal-spending-debt-1790-2050 Of course, you can see the spikes for the Civil War, WWI, FDR’s big government programs, and WWII. I tend to take 100% – this number as an INDEX of economic freedom at any given time, in any given country. So if it’s, say, 10%, then the country is 90% level on economic freedom for individuals.
The Civil War had unfortunate consequences: Eliminating the right of States to secede, greatly increasing Federal power, subsidies, surveilance, control, etc. Have you read ‘Emancipating Slaves, Enslaving Free Men: A History of the American Civil War ‘? Its thesis is that slavery would have ended anyway, had the States been allowed to secede. I agree with that view myself. And it might have happened with a lot less bloodshed and without the vast expansion of the Federal government.
Gravel Pit: The media certainly foments racism. And the coverage focuses on a narrative (Whitey bad, everybody else, good). Take Jesse Jackson. He was lauded in my youth in the media, when he ran for President — even in ‘Scholastic News’, which the teachers gave us to read. But Jackson himself, was a racist. He called New York ‘Himeytown’. The media never covered HIS racism to any significant extent. OR his many scandals. He is basically a ‘race pimp’, like Al Sharpton, somebody that made a living by stirring up s~~~. That’s not a ‘leader’. So calling such jackasses ‘Civil Rights Leaders’? Nothing could be further from the truth — they are dangerously divisive racists. And no need to apologize for comments, I’ve got thick skin, it’s good to read different viewpoints on here.
I’ve been enjoying reading here from people clearly more educated than I, and I’m embarrassed for my outbursts earlier in the thread, especially where I misjudged a person severely.
As it goes, we only get 30 mins to decide to delete our comments, then they’re locked forever.
I’m not especially well-liked by the blacks here, or the Alt-Righters, mainly because my views are somewhat down the middle. I’m glad that polar opposites have both found a foot in MGTOW
Can we get back to laughing at dumb Mexicans on fire? I had my laughs… this Civil War s~~~ is even more interesting though! Y’all should start a thread talking about the Civil War.
my views are somewhat down the middle.
Everyone’s views are right down the middle. And everyone else’s views are totally extreme! This goes for every person alive.
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