Mexico Pipeline explosion Before and After.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

I guess they don’t teach STOP, DROP & ROLL in Mexico.

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

I’ve heard of Taco Tuesday. . .

But are they trying to start a new day:

Fuel Friday

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

This is Mad Max: Road Warrior type s~~~.

Like, seriously. . .

The mauraders in the first movie didn’t even blow up a freaking pipeline.

‘The gasoline will be ours.’ Lord Hummungus

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

‘Through the fire and the flames. . . .We carry on!!’

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

‘Start the fire. . . . Bring down the hammer!!’

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

I’m still suprised that the fake news, liberal media did not report this as:

‘Mexicans Set Themselves On Fire To Protest Trump’s Border Wall Plans’

[Branched offParticipant 10934]

I know there is a lot of tension between those on the right in the US and Mexicans but this has taken a rather unsightly turn here gents. People were horribly burnt here. I get why one might laugh a bit but it is good to have pity too. We all sometimes screw up and need a friend with a little pity. If you don’t know that then you have led a shallow privileged excuse for a life.

It is easy to despise the Mexicans for stealing fuel but what you are seeing is a country where the system doesn’t work. They are not all flatulent chilly eating lazy f~~~wits who have no morals. It is that the country and what it stands for is not working. No one trusts it, so why obey laws when you are poor and there is free stuff.

I used to see this with amazing regularity in Africa. Fuel tanker comes off the road. Locals chase driver away and all bring out their cans. Village idiots start coming too because they can get money for their moonshine by selling fuel. One village idiot goes there p~~~ed and lights up. Every time you heard a tanker had gone off the road you just waited for the pictures of burning people to follow and they almost always did. The easy reason to give is “because Africans are retarded savages” but it is more complicated than that. Their countries are s~~~. Their police are bent. They courts favour the wealthy. They are broke and why not? What did following the white man’s rules of good conduct ever get them? When it comes to the individual citizen the true answer is “bugger all” We evolved ways of doing things because they gave us mutual benefit. Until other countries make that choice (not choose to copy our laws just because we are powerful) it is all just a sham in those countries and one can’t judge the people by the same standards as we judge our people. I am not a bleeding heart libtard but a little pity never hurt.

As an aside, I honestly think that the problem shouldn’t be between those on the right and the Mexicans it should be between those on the right and the liberal idiots who want to let the Mexicans all come in for free to reap the benefit of a country that is not thiers. The usual pantomime cry should go up “its behind you!” The danger is your own libtards giving your country away. A lot of the Mexicans have drive and ambition to better themselves, one simply can’t let them all come because its not their country. The spineless liberals whose only ambition seems to be to ruin their people, however, can’t be sent somewhere else and keep reproducing.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

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(2017 figure)

3.2 children die per year worldwide due to lack of adequate nutrition (eventually leading to starvation)

Until that gets fixed:

I have absolutely no empathy or compassion for a pack of maniacs that were stealing fuel, having torched themselves.

They knew exactly what they were doing and due to the material being fuel / gas – They were aware of the risks.

The ones that cross the US border illegally have no problem stealing billions of dollars from the US in the form of social welfare, free medical care, etc – And I doubt that any of them care about the 3.2 million children that die annually, worldwide due to starvation.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

STOP, DROP & ROLL

For real though. Show of hands. Were you or were you not taught at an early age; if ever on fire to stop, drop and roll.

If you are on fire, why are you running? LOL. That actually fuels the fire with fresh oxygen. The best way to put our a fire is to snuff the flame with anything (water, dirt, cloth…).

Youre supposed to STOP, DROP & ROLL…. no s~~~.

Kind of like the Duck Boat Drownings. Prolly not a good idea to go out on a boat if you can’t swim or hold your breath for any length of time. No S~~~. And if you dont know what to do when you catch on fire, maybe trying to steal buckets of gasoline is not a great idea. LOL Dumbasses!

[FrankOneParticipant 1418]

There is a gasoline shortage in Mexico. So people are desperate for gasoline. Ironically, part of the shortage is because of shutdown of transmission pipelines, DUE TO people stealing fuel! I work in oil & gas. Poor people ‘tap’ transmission pipes in Africa and other parts of the world, in remote areas, and take ‘jerry cans’ and fill them with the oil or gasoline. In this case, even static electricity from clothing rubbing against itself could have ignited it — gasoline is very volatile. Severe burns are incredibly painful… A true tragedy.

Sky-O: Paradoxically, it is the ILLEGAL immigrants, who consume FEWER government resources. That is because they are INELIGIBLE to receive any social welfare benefits. In contrast, LEGAL immigrants, CAN collect welfare and other benefits, albeit, after 5 years, just like native-born citizens.

Tapping transmission pipelines and stealing fuel is certainly WRONG. But what alternative do poor people in corrupt countries have? Mexico would be a far better place, had the US taken over ALL of it. At least they’d have rule of law, a modicum of transparency, and decent infrastructure.

PEMEX, the National Oil company, has seen production decline for YEARS now. The US supplies 65% of it’s natural gas… Unfortunately the news stories about Mexico do not cover the real problem: Corruption, Corruption, and Corruption.

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

FrankOne:

Paradoxically. . .

$84 billion a year

Combined state & federal total tax dollars spent per year on ILLEGAL immigrants

In the following areas:

01: Public schooling for their kids

02: Hospital medical care that goes unpaid (including birthing procedures and care for anchor babies)

03: Social welfare services (at the state level. Yes they are ellible at the state level regardless of status, for things like EBT, etc)

04: Cost of court system and incarceration for a small percentage of them

05: Etc, etc, etc

$84 billion a year,

Paradoxically

Calculatiblity

Numerically

and Computatibly

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Sky-O wrote:

FrankOne:

Paradoxically. . .

$84 billion a year

Someone here just posted a new study that puts it up to around $115B per year total. The $84B a year is about what the Federal part alone is apparently.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

Sky-O wrote:

FrankOne:
Paradoxically. . .
$84 billion a year

Someone here just posted a new study that puts it up to around $115B per year total. The $84B a year is about what the Federal part alone is apparently.

Tru Dat Biggvs

It’s closer to $110-115 billion a year. Which is more than the war in Iraq cost on an annual basis which was $7.2 billion a month / $80+ billion a year.

They are in fact: INVADERS

Intelligent Invaders in the sense that they know they could never form an army and actually invade militarily.

So they crawl in like rats. Multiply quickly and deplete resources.

It’s time to

BUILD A WALL

[FrankOneParticipant 1418]

There were essentially no immigration limits in place before 1914. Those immigrants built this country.

Why is spending money to educate an immigrant child any more costly than spending money to educate a native born citizen child? Will they both not pay taxes during their entire lifetime to pay back this cost?

Simply dividing the national deficit by number of citizens gives about -$2,400 per person. That is, for every citizen, the government spends more than it takes in by this amount annually. Now if I multiply that number by 55 million legal immigrants, I actually do come up with a figure close to what Sky-O reports, about $132 billion. So as the population grows, whether by immigration or native reproduction, spending increases. That is a good argument for implementing a LIFETIME ineligibility for welfare for legal immigrants instead of the 5 year ban presently in effect. And perhaps exempting their children until they are 40 or have paid a certain threshold in lifetime taxes. Or, better yet, ending the welfare state.

But attributing such figures to ILLEGAL immigrants, is incorrect; the illegal immigrant is completely ineligible for benefits. Other than education for citizen children and citizen children being able to apply for SNAP.

The ‘best deal’ immigrants are highly skilled, adult technical workers, in terms of lifetime net economic contributions. Why? Their education has already been paid for—unlike even native citizens—and their pay is high, and thus so are taxes. Think about it. If a doctor, scientist, or engineer immigrates, Big Gov gets all the tax dough, but did not pay for any primary education OR subsidize any of their higher education cost. So such an immigrant OR guest worker, is actually a greater contributor to the State economically, than a native born citizen in the same occupations.

The only illegals receiving SNAP/food stamps/EBT (I call that Eating Better Than you cards, haha), are the ones with citizen children in their families. So their citizen kids apply. This is how some Illegals do INDIRECTLY receive these benefits. Simple solution — exempt children with undocumented parents from applying to such means tested programs. I’m all for that.

The next best deal are low skilled illegals. That is because they can collect no benefits except typically education for their children.

Now, if you allow unlimited LEGAL immigration into a modern welfare State, where immigrants are immediately eligible for ALL social welfare programs, you DO have a problem. Rather than a wall, I favor simply extending the current 5 year ineligibility for benefits to LIFETIME for legal immigrants. And exempting children from getting benefits if parents are illegals. Better still would be exempting their children ALSO from benefits, for, say, 30 years or even life. This would actually shift America back TOWARDS smaller government, because all of such immigrants would be incentivized to vote AGAINST any entitlement programs they paid for, but received no benefits from. So you’d have two classes of citizenship. Immigrants, who would vote for small government in their first two generations, and regular citizens who would continue voting for the confiscatory Leviathan State.

Immigration policy, though, has always been about racism, not economics.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

iMickey503 wrote:

You want to be a thief? Arabic cleansing Mexican style.

If those people could get their s~~~ together, they would have a country that Americans would JUMP the border for. But look at it. This is why some people can never have nice things. They don’t protect their borders, they get this riff raff.

Oh well.

America needs to invade Mexico, and finish the job Cortez didn’t.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

Sky-O wrote:

FrankOne:

Paradoxically. . .

Sky-O, don’t even bother with this dips~~~. He’s an agitator who likes to hear himself talk, and every post he talks about how smart he is because he works in “a highly technical field” so we should all just listen to him.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

Branched off wrote:

tension between those on the right in the US and Mexicans

Invading our country does create tension.

Branched off wrote:

I get why one might laugh a bit but it is good to have pity too.

Nope. Not at all. Pity is the very thing that got us here. Pity for women. Pity for invaders. Pity is the blue-pill gateway to being totally manipulated by evil and selfish people. Life is tough, and we must be on guard for ourselves, our gender, and our race 100% of the time.

Pity is hesitation, and hesitation is a killer.

Branched off wrote:

They are not all flatulent chilly eating lazy f~~~wits who have no morals.

Yes, in fact, they are.

Branched off wrote:

It is that the country and what it stands for is not working. No one trusts it, so why obey laws when you are poor and there is free stuff.

That’s putting the cart before the horse. People are not corrupt because countries are poor. Countries are poor because the people are corrupt.

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The easy reason to give is “because Africans are retarded savages” but it is more complicated than that. Their countries are s~~~.

Cart before horse. They are not savages because their countries are s~~~. Their countries are s~~~ because they are savages. Christians go to Africa every year and teach them to boil water so their children don’t die. When the Christians return the following year, the same village refuses to boil water, and their children are dying, and they say, “it’s too much trouble to boil the water”

And that’s a true story.

That’s just savage. Period. Albert Schweitzer figured it out by the end.

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The danger is your own libtards giving your country away.

Now this is true, but if you steal from your friend and give it to me, and I know you stole it, I don’t have a right to take it, nor would I.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Sandals can be a little hostile and dramatic with his views but he is correct: the US / Mexico border is a s~~~show. Its an outright invasion down there. Its ridiculous. I live in Texas so I know its true.

Trump is ABSOLUTELY correct in insisting on a barrier to be built. We’re in a crisis. In fact, it’s worse than Trump says but no one believes him anyway so he cant get the message out.

I feel bad for the future because I can see that its unstoppable. A good thing and a good people were taken for granted and severely hurt. I’m not talking about just white people, but about REAL Americans who have roots here going back 100-200 years and even more. In my opinion, immigration should never have been re-opened in the 80’s. That was when America’s fate was sealed.

They let the border become a joke and they imported the 3rd world Arabs and Indians… it all started 35 years ago and the damage cant be undone. We’re in for REALLY dark times and the long term outlook doesnt look good either.

I dont pretend that anything can be put right at this time… the horse is dead. Only thing left to do is secure your own s~~~ the best you can and watch the collapse.

[FrankOneParticipant 1418]

Did you know the border patrol was founded only in 1924? Before then we had a largely unregulated border — with about 75 mounted guards from 1904 until 1924 at peak, and some sporadic checks by the Army and Texas Rangers.

From the Chinese exclusionary Act of 1882 onwards, immigration policy has largely been about racism. Nobody complained about an ‘invasion’ of Western European immigrants, because the majority of the native population was of Western European descent. But whitey has often disliked the brown, yellow, and black people!

how smart he is because he works in “a highly technical field” so we should all just listen to him.

Not at all. I simply stated WHY I knew hundreds of immigrants in my line of work, and my lived experience of their contributions and relationships with them, from those with student visas to H1B workers and the rest. I simply explained WHY the Chinese foreign workers and immigrants I had known, were not ‘chi-comms’. The field I work in, merely means I interact with many nationalities. Your rebuttal of why they were all ‘chi-comms’ comprised a string of insults.

Albert Schweitzer figured it out by the end.

Really? Are you familiar with Schweitzer? Early on, he viewed Africans as ‘children’ relative to Europeans; later in his life, he called Africans the brothers of Europeans, but the Europeans, the elder brother. Then finally, he stated the times of speaking of elder and younger brothers are past. Late in life he even had misgivings about European morality and civilization. So Schweitzer is a rather complicated figure with evolving views.

As for African ‘savages’, why do you think African immigrants succeed? I’ve had Nigerian doctors, known Nigerian engineers. Why do you think these African immigrants are more successful than typical native-born African-Americans? I would argue it is their culture. And they sure as hell weren’t ‘savages’. I’m most impressed by Nigerians, but lumping all of Africa together into one culture is overly simplistic. There’s a big difference between Hutu tribesmen in Rwanda and urban residents in, say, Lagos, Nigeria.

Why do you think Mexico is poor relative to the US and has a culture of corruption? Are you familiar with the encomienda system? Essentially, after Cortes subjugated the Aztec empire, the populace was little more than slaves — the land of the natives, was divided up amongst the conquistadores and the populace forced to work it. In return for ‘religious education’. So, a system of serfdom. What do you think the outcome would have been if, say, only 5% had been skimmed off the top and sent back to the Spanish crown, and the people subjected to rule of law and made citizens of New Spain?

Do you think the colonisation of Africa and the slave trade had a significant impact upon the development of the continent in the succeeding centuries?

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

Talk about whipping the s~~~ out of that rationalization hamster…

Sovereignty above all else.

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