Marital Sex and Jerking Off

[Anonymous 42]

Keymaster wrote:

Who told women they can go wherever – and do whatever – they want? WHO?

Who gave women the authority to trespass in spite of the fence, gate, and posted clearly NO TRESPASSING? The answer: The LAW, female’s order (woman over men), feminism, their interpretation of equality, woman’s need to be wanted, it’s endless, like asking a woman why?
She’s another nurse Ratchet from the cuckoo’s nest, came to help in the repairing and rebuilding of our minds! She thinks we don’t see the blood dripping hole saw, scalpel, paint mixer, dough roller, and bottle of hydrofluoric acid. Another Josef Mengele, but with t~~~, she sees all these men and it’s Auschwitz all over again. The f~~~ing nerve!

listenUp’s words: “I’ll be happy to not have to endure females giving me advice at MGTOW.com.”

A woman giving advice here is tantamount to holding the oven doors open at Auschwitz, and shoveling the carnage of feminisum’s “Josef Mengele w/t~~~” and his multiple piles of human mangalation. They’re not welcome in my life, nor in the things I do! to them ALL: GO F~~~ YOUR SELF, F~~~ OFF AND DIE, NEVER EVER RETURN!

I despise them ALL, having been a survivor myself of Feminism’s Auschwits, and the ovens are burning hotter than ever! It’s a WAR, and feminism is the underlying factor for so many killed in the carnage! I’ll walk over their corpses and not bat an eye, Yes I am HEARTLESS, but not SOULLESS, you can’t have your cake and eat my soul too. Women are much more immature than children! They’re f~~~ing invalid human beings. They can “ALL” F~~~ OFF AND DIE!

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“A woman giving advice here is tantamount to holding the oven doors open at Auschwitz”-MG-Tower

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[Andypaton505Participant 4]

I am Married and i rub one out most of the time to Porn cos i cannot shag my wife cos we live in the house of her grandmother lmao. Its a passion killer having ears in the Wall and to top it off her mother lives with us too .  But my wife has no problem with porn she likes it too.

[WakingupParticipant 30]

Update…

Things came to a head 2 weeks ago.  I told her that if things continue the way they are we are headed for divorce because this is no way to live.  She complained that i keep bringing divorce up and asked…”Is that what you want?” to which I replied: “Well…yes if things don’t change”.  Next day she told me she wants to file.  I told her to go ahead then because if she expects me to come begging she’ll be waiting a lifetime.  I love her but I’m done with her controlling and abusive ways.  We both signed last week.  Told the kids, told our family.  She moved out.  All within 3 days.    Suddenly other things are making sense and this “fight” was the thing that gave her an out.   She took it and hasn’t looked back.  She moved so fast my head is spinning.  But I don’t care.  Obviously she’s been planning this for some time.   I’m coming out of this pretty damn great too – no alimony, no 401Ks…nothing.  Even get the furniture.  She’s done and wants none of it.  She’s being taken care of by her parents (which she never broke from since we said I DO 20+ years ago).

I’m easily brushing off the guilt I feel for enjoying my alone time now.  GOOD GRIEF…the freedom is marvelous.  The apartment stays clean.  NO more walking on egg shells.  No more being accused of everything under the sun.  No more constant txts and chats at work.  The beauty of silence.  First time I’ve been “single” since college.  And even took off my ring yesterday.   We have a 90 day waiting period until it’s official.  But i’m already loving it.

Ah the joys of falling asleep after beating off to great porn and not even needing to clean up the result. lol   Her loss.  Will I remarry?  Oh HELL no.  Too much work.  Can’t even imagine having to start over.  I will date…but never …ever….marry again.

[DakotaParticipant 341]

Ahh, the sweet taste of freedom…nothing like it.  It’s truly amazing how peaceful and quiet the world is without women.  Adam was god-like before god took his rib and made that stupid bitch.  That’s why I can’t eat f~~~in ribs anymore.

So I just woke up to your post AND the “news” that “Marathon Russia/Ukraine talks end with Peace Deal.”  Yeah, peace with Russia and your 90-day-just-walk-away-divorce have a lot in common.  Yeah, don’t you believe any of that s~~~!  While these Franco/German “world leader” jack-offs dance around in celebration, Putin is building up and doubling-down on offensive positions

Likewise, after a couple of days of your wife talking to her mother, girl friends, divorced girl friends, lesbian girl friends, hair stylist, meter maid, waitresses, divorced co-workers and anyone else who’ll listen asking her the exact same question (“What’d you get?”), then the s~~~ gets real.   Women have an end game before they even get married and it all revolves around resources (yours of course); it doesn’t include walking away with hat-in-hand.   After 20+ years marriage with kids…yeah, there won’t be any “peace in our time.”  Enjoy your relative freedom but for god sakes man, know that there’s a grand piano dangling over your head by a bloody tampon string.  Women are vermin and will not leave a morsel of food behind.

Also, there are two ways to know that you’re marriage is dead. One is if your wife asks you to suck her dildo. Two is if Doc Fenderson says so…the guy knows his s~~~!

Good luck, Brother!  There’s lots of pussy out there so don’t delay.  Just remember, never trust a Russian.  Never trust a woman.   Niet!

[FREEDOM ?Participant 1]

MY BODY ,MY CHOICE, Made me laugh ,love it , right back at them

[joelawParticipant 6]

Every man on Earth who has been married longer than 1 year, has jacked off at least once when the Mrs. was: having headache, on the rag, not in the mood, or fill in the blank excuse.

[Anonymous 42]

Hey Joe Law, please don’t cover me with your blanketing assessment stating that “Every man on Earth” NOT ME, Never include me in anything you say in these forums. I not only go my way, I am my own way. thank-you

[kgunn68Participant 17]

Even at my age (47) I still wank it at least once a day. Even if I’m getting some on a regular basis. You know why? Its the one time I can think about only myself, not be encumbered with the “Game” that must be played. That goes for a side piece or a GF, there’s always some kind of dance, some kind of bulls~~~, some illusion to uphold. Wanking it assures that I don’t owe anyone anything for getting me off. I don’t have to change her oil, or pick up her dry cleaning, or make her dinner, or any of the countless other hoops that a man has to jump through to get some pussy.

And on that note, It occurred to me that the female of our species was designed for one thing, to open their legs and take a load. Biological fact….

Feminism has lead to women thinking they have a greater worth than that……

Before someone says “That’s insensitive”, STFU….. we were designed to procreate, to populate the earth, men designed to stick their dicks in and a woman designed to take it. That’s it.

Men were always hunters, and women gatherers. Women “Gather” nothing these days except baby daddies, gold cards and alimony……

[girandhopperParticipant 5]

I’m reading what you blokes over there are saying about holding out, playing games and tit for tat stuff.

Well take it from me your wasting your time in my humble opinion !

I know from experience if it gets to this point where basically she’s beggining to f~~~ with your mind and body you really need to deal with it and stop playing f~~~ing games…!!!  Because take it from me you won’t win they’re programmed to know how to f~~~ you up in every way.

That’s why us blokes do things with our pals like footie and stuff, women mainly communicate – well guess what they’re communicating about it sure isn’t who’s gonna win the cup this year.

I’ve met quite a few women who do, do stuff there’s loads in my sailing club….they’re there for a reason !! think about it how many women hang out down the snooker club because they want to improve their opening break not so many I guess

Don’t forget THE WHOLE POINT OF BEING IN A SERIOUS RELATIONSHIP is so you both can share, if the one person in life who SHOULD and chose at the outset to provide you with the most basic need i.e. a bloody good shag is preventing you, it’s pretty much tantamount to abuse/deprivation or have I got that wrong ?

I was married to a psycho for over 25 years to put it bluntly sex with her was pure blackmail…it happened when SHE wanted SOMETHING..

so I got out and it cost me a fortune, surprise surprise..then I thought I was so lucky because I then met the most amazing womam fun, intelligent, well educated and a real lady and so passionate..it kind of made up for the terrible years of marriage…the perfect woman or so I thought !

Then by accident I found out about her previous life, shacked up in her late teens in London with a well know “randy playboy” who was almost 50 years her senior (he had plenty of cash need I say) but hey he LOVED her…..what the f~~~…this totally freaked me out..who was this prim and propper little lady who pretty much objected to anything masculine..needles to say my expression of horror and surprise was turned around and it became MY problem….and the sex stopped immediately as, and I quote I made her feel dirty…….well I still don’t know how I did that all by myself. And there was more of that s~~~…how comes when they act like tramps its seen by them as romantic, passionate and exciting but men are perverts ?

This is just an example of how women are programmed to f~~~ you up then clean up, that was many years ago and guess what I lost a s~~~ load of folding stuff AGAIN and gained many years of total s~~~ AGAIN.

I’m lucky now I’m a full card carrying senior member of the MGTOW universe..living in a friends house by the Atlantic Ocean in western france, learning to speak french and playing my mandolin to my hearts content, don’t get me wrong I still love the company of women but on my terms…

 

SO THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS:

You guys today have the massive benefit of global interaction, there are no secrets about what women can do to men any longer. I understand the percentage of women abusing men is higher…and lets face it there are some pretty f~~~ed up blokes up out there often these are the result of childhood neglect..Some women still are incapable of doing what many many tens of thousands of years have programmed them to do which is to nurture.

 

If your unhappy sort it or get out stop playing bloody stupid games

Don’t forget no woman has the god damn right to f~~~ you up, no matter what

Accept women for what they are and not what you dream they are, they’ve all got holes in there arses.

and last but not least PROTECT YOUR PROPRTY FROM THEM and don’t forget that means your seed too, for they will surely have no qualms about leaving you financially crippled as you can’t do to them, it leaves you weak..and we all know no woman respects a weak man…it renders you unactractive to other women….and that’s what they want…total annihilation….

A woman won’t make you happy only you can do that.

I hope this doesn’t sound like I have some kind of neurotic condition because I haven’t, what I do have is many years of bitter experience thank god for the internet and this site. I hope this helps you guys to strive for a very happy life which isn’t tainted by a person who is hell bent on transferring her s~~~ onto you.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARND, LIVE LIFE AND PROSPER…

 

 

 

 

 

 

[RoyDalParticipant]

@girandhopper,

One of my motives is to let other men know about my mistakes so that they are not doomed to repeat them. “This is a dead end. Don’t go this way.”

Anyway, whatever floats my boat is okay with me.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 2]

This is all good information gentlemen. Should I ever find myself in a relations~~~ again, I’ll make sure she catches me a couple of times right at the very beginning to immediately set a precedent. If she goes nuts that will be the end of that. Getting s~~~ for rubbing one out of your system is crazy. I agree with Doc, sex is just about being hot for someone, if she is not she is manipulation you because of her reasons, that’s for sure. Bartering with sex will always give you a bad deal.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I never let my ex wife tell me what to do. The only expectation of me I accepted – was to not cheat (and I didn’t)- anything else was off-limits. I never hid the porn. She wasn’t happy about it, but had no reason to tell me s~~~

I cannot imagine myself in any situation I would willingly enter, where I would have to resort to hiding the fact I masturbate or smoke weed, or things of that nature.

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Anonymous 5]

I think we missed the real beginning of the end here.
Wakingup’s real mistake was trying to get his life back a bit by reintroducing some real friends and real time for himself, separate to the marriage.
It’s the first thing women do in relationships. Isolate the guy!
It’s textbook strategy for abusers, but not considered abuse when women do it men in all relationships.
Every one of us who read that first post knew exactly what position you were in and what you were trying to do and most of us were hoping it could work.
It’s about what they think they’d be doing if they had “friends”
They’re perpetual members of committees, and as Lawrence Shannon points out in “The Predatory Female”,,,”No guy ever goes up solo against any woman, they’re dealing with the committee”
We didn’t have to read his book to learn that, we only realised how universal it was.
They all think to a degree that’s exactly what we’re doing if we had our male friends group the same we had when they first met us.
Wakingup even acknowledges this when he says about her “family committee”
Both Girandhopper and Dakota acknowledge this as well.
You can bet she’s on a few more committees and every one of them is where she sounds out ideas, plans and reports “victories” and gets further tips and feedback about control tactics.

From the moment you realized you had no real social life and decided to rationally, reasonably act on it, you were doomed by her insecurity and loss of control.
The JO thing made it worse, far worse. Their sex control is their biggest weapon. In reality, for most women, sex is their only weapon.
They know it and they’re extremely sensitive about it.
Anything threatening that monopoly, including porn, prostitutes, or some bitch down the street given it away for free will send them into “Possessed” mode with the contorted facial expressions and hisses and grinding teeth.
As we now know, JO too!, lol or even sex toys, hahaha
(It’s all right for them to have an arsenal of bizarre gadgets to stick in every orifice, they even brag about it, but we’ll never be allowed to forget it if we used sex object substitutes, lol, we’ll be shamed to the grave) It’s not about sex, it’s about control (so is rape)
Anything that even remotely threatens their sexual monopoly will be greeted with all the socially dysfunctional behaviour known,,,,,and all the lies in the world to cover up the real issue, lol.
They have no integrity of any kind. If it might work, they’ll do it, regardless of the victim impact.

They’re insecure, narcissistic, jealous, back stabbing, emotional children who require constant validation on a daily basis.
Just try doing every single thing they demand to placate their insecurity,,,,without the daily validation of compliments, real or fake, they don’t care they’re that f~~~ed in the head,,,,,,see where that gets you, lol

For a Bluepiller it’s normally the end of the world after such a long relationship, the silence is deafening.
It seems you’re MGTOW/Red Pill knowledge made you aware of the web of control, and once you know what it is, you’ll never miss it.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

ordinarygury – spot on. very bleak picture you painted there

also: any liberties are just like civil liberties – if you don’t exercise them – you lose them
if you’re sleeping with the enemy – there’s always a power struggle – a never ending tug of war

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[WakingupParticipant 30]

Dang great insights gentlemen.  Seriously great stuff.

Update again for you.  It’s be very quiet actually – not a lot of communication between us at all.  Quiet mostly because i decided that since she filed and moved things along so fast my head was spinning that it’s time we start acting divorced.  So most of our communication when we’ve had it was finalizing all the financial detail.   We go for about 2 weeks in between communications.  I’m glad.  Right now I have very little to say that would be helpful in any way.  I’m spending my time working, keeping my apartment clean (which is easy because I do this thing that the women in my home never understood – pick up after yourselves), hitting the gym, cooking and jacking off whenever and however I want.  lol  You’d think I was 15 again i’m doing it so much.

We saw each other last weekend.  It was not easy.  As angry as I am I still love her and miss many thing about her.  She asked if I could forgive her and she said she was genuinely remorseful for how she had been treating me and wants to see about giving it another go and get some counseling.   I simply don’t “buy” this.   Don’t trust it one bit.   This is yet again another example at how EFFing quick she goes up and down on the emotional roller coaster that is her life.  Seems entirely to fast to now be wanting to make “amends”.  The divorce isn’t final yet…we have about 50 more days before the waiting period is up.   I told her i’d consider that and take what she said seriously.  I didn’t give my answer though.  And will not be.   I’m waiting until i begin some personal counseling that I have set up.  I want professional advice with this situation.  I’ve not shared all the details to all she has accused me of over the years – most of which would make your jaw hit the floor.  I’ve put up with the insanity long enough.   When i look at things logically – recounting all the situations where she went “insane” on me – there is no way I’d want to get back together with her.  But after 20 plus years, being the mother of my children, and the only woman I ever loved….my heart wants to get involved.  For now …I’m letting my head rule my heart.  And my hand rule my dick.  🙂

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Marriage counseling is a waste of time and money and will only reinforce her negative feelings and behaviors at your expense.

I’d tell her that if she needs counseling, she can definitely get some but you’re going through with the divorce. Then tell her once she’s figured things for herself, you’d love to date her because there were some things about her you really liked, just being married to her isn’t working for you.

That ought to really microwave her burrito.

[BiG_WeaselParticipant 116]

Gonna chime in for the OP, and for anyone who’s had the tap turned off during a marriage or a long relationship. Pay attention…

If you’re not getting it, someone else is (or they have someone in mind they wanna give it to). End of discussion.

[Anonymous 42]

Do you want “PRICELESS” and “FREE” marriage counseling?

OK,,,,,,,

DON’T,

DO NOT EVER,

NEVER EVER,

NULL,

NADA,

NUNKA,

NINE,

NO!

“F~~~ THAT!”

RUN,

RELEASE,

FLEE,

ESCAPE,

SPRINT,

DART,

DASH,

SCUTTLE,

SCAMPER,

“F~~~ THAT!”

DESTROY,

OBLITERATE,

DEMOLISH,

ERADICATE,

DEVASTATE!

ARRIVE AT MGTOW…….RUN, FREEDOM, SAFE/MODE…………

is less traveled.

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