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Zuberi Tau 4 years, 9 months ago.
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well, jon i can say i understand what you are talking about when i was younger i experienced much of the same thing. First of all what i had to learn was this. dont go “chasing” that is a pointless endevour that will continue to bring about the same results as you have always been getting. no instead you must approach them as indifferent as in why should you even care about their presence. having the confidence to walk into a room of women and in your mind say “i own this room… i own you” and actually believe it and make strong confident eye contact backing up your claim. having no f~~~s to give about what they think robbing them of the power of casting judgement upon you as being worthy or not for a chance to talk to them. and when you talk to them you use command language for example instead of “can i have your number? ” say “why dont you GIVE me your number?”. command language is also useful in every social interaction you may encounter not only exclusive for picking up women or whatever. command language learn it, know it, use it! also dont be afraid to knock them down several pegs to remind them they are no one special just another hairy sack of meat like everyone else
Good Luck!
I've killed worse than you on my way to real problems.
…It doesn’t make a rat f~~~ bit of difference. Looks don’t f~~~ing matter. Well yes, they do, but tall good looking guys are not as blessed as you might think. In fact, it can work against you. Add brains, and if you’re a smart guy then you’re REALLY handicapped. Don’t for a minute think not being tall (or classically handsome) is a curse.
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I am 6’4” and I feel the same way too. Unless I break the ice with some compliment or play dumb, women are intimidated by me. Most of women have low self esteem and think (rightfully so) that I am too much work to domesticate and keep at bay. Exotic accents also tend to be counterproductive for pick-up, contrary to the popular belief. Chicks stay away from unknown and unpredictable for the same reason – much easier to manipulate someone who acts in familiar ways and very predictable.
proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
@RusskyKGB
I’m glad you guys are seeing the the same thing. I would even drive MSELF crazy wondering am I not good looking enough? How is it possible that women tell me I look like a male sex symbol celebrity but they act as if I am the Elephant Man? Then I got hip to what’s really going on. In her mind, the tall guy who is height-weight proportionate to Superman is too much work. It’s less possible to control him. She would have competition now. He must be a “player”. He’s probably a commitment phobe. Why is he not married? There must be something wrong with him.
I s~~~ you not. That’s how women think.
Now I LOVE that. The more disinterested she pretends to be, the more interested she is.
Instead of approaching women, wait for them to approach you.
This is gold from Sidecar.
STOP APPROACHING WOMEN. Stop using the word “approach” at all.
I “approach” a f~~~ing dentist’s chair.
I “approach” the edge of a cliff.
I “approach” an enclosure of wild animals at the zoo.If women need to be “approached”, it’s not YOUR problem. It’s theirs.
Here’s what you do. Make eye contact, but instead of going anywhere to talk to women, motion for then to come to you. If she doesn’t come, no problem. Turn your back like she doesn’t exist anymore and who cares. But even more importantly, it REMOVES THE POSSIBILITY OF HER “REJECTING” you.
You now get to remind her SHE CAME TO YOU. She approached YOU.
She is hitting on YOU and you get to day “do you always hit on guys like this?”Much better position to be in.
Play with that bitch.( This is assuming you’re interested in f~~~ing her. )
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.You now get to remind her SHE CAME TO YOU. She approached YOU. She is hitting on YOU and you get to day “do you always hit on guys like this?”
In my dealings with women, I find the ones who are confident enough to come “flirt” with me are…
1. Easier to f~~~.
2. A better f~~~.
3. Aren’t AS afraid of rejection.
4. Easier to move along (Next day).
5. Know the score.
6. Less bulls~~~.
Of course some of these could be shot to hell the moment she opens her mouth, but generally the above points hold true.
Confident women don’t have to be 10s.
I’ve met plenty of 6 or 7s who know their looks aren’t going to get them what they want, so they go hunt. They actually have developed personalities, flavor, jokes, spice, can hold a conversation and will approach YOU. (May not be interested in what you’re saying, you may not be either but… whatever.)
If you find a 6 or 7 that will come to you, then they’re usually a REALLY GOOD F~~~.
This is where most men f~~~ up, by trying to be alpha, they hit on the matriarch hottie of the group, once rejected they’ve alienated themselves from the rest of her group. (Some girls like to pick up others “scraps”, but not usually.)
Sometimes you can land that 8 or 9… but usually the 10s have landed themselves a simp, who is showering her in his alpha cash. Poor fool. Plus they’re usually vapid, have never heard no, have men approach them constantly, and are above coming to you. Best to avoid them, not because you CAN’T but because it’s too much BULLS~~~.
Anyway…
Oh a lot of women expect and even insist that you make the first move even if it’s just to say hi..Depending on the woman.But if she dosent feel attracted to you then quickly a lot of them feel that you are harrassing them or are a creep.
Need to beware that women get browney points/victim cred/sympathy from other women by claiming to be a victim even from the wrong guy saying hi.
Women like to give subtle Indicators of Attraction with plausible deniability especially to men they are not especially attracted to.
Had a boss years ago who had big ass arms and we usto go to the delicatessen in the grocery store and women would look him up and down and smile every time.Even though he had a beer belly.frankly my dear i don't give a damn
You guys want an honest input on how women rate your looks?
There are websites out there where you can post pix and women will rate you.Lulu is one of them.But beware most women today rate most men’s looks at below average.
Me I Just Don’t Give A F~~~.
I’m not about to change 1 single thing about how I look or dress or act or do anything else for attracting a woman.frankly my dear i don't give a damn
There are websites out there where you can post pix and women will rate you.
I found things like HotOrNot misleading. Some girls got really made up for those shots, some didn’t, some would sound like morons when they spot, some wouldn’t. Pictures are only good for the first 0.5 secs of meeting someone. Then they speak (usually).
Alright. This is simple, almost too simple but it works like a charm. Almost too much joo joo magic power in it.
It was passed down to me. I passed it to my 17 year old son last week and he met two girls he flirted with for hours at the beach.
Here it is:
Say hello to 5 women every day. Just hello.
See what happens. All of a sudden you realize that a “no” doesn’t mean anything, could be she’s attached, having a bad day, on her period. Doesn’t matter. There are 4 more to say hi too. You learn to approach women without an agenda, talk to them. And, ultimately it’s a numbers game. You have to meet a lot till you find one your compatable with (someone that will f~~~ you). When your in bars it works great. I always pulled 3 numbers when I went to a bar.
It worked so well for my son that he said, “Dad, I missed my 5 yesterday, today I’m doing 7”. And he never listens to anything I say.
I know, sounds stupid. But it’s not.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
You guys want an honest input on how women rate your looks?
There are websites out there where you can post pix and women will rate you.That’s a good point, but you will NEVER get an accurate “rating” out of women. They are complete S~~~ at it – and totally dishonest. They will even LIE TO THEMSELVES and “rate” the guy so tragically wrong.
Remember, we’re talking about the sex that would walk right past Justin Timberlake on the street and not give him a second look… but tell her he is “Justin Timberlake”, and she will fall flat on her back with her flip flops in the air faster than she can say “Bieber”. Women rating men off pictures is a joke.
I once was out with a GF and a single girlfriend of hers. I showed her a picture of a buddy of mine on my phone and it was a shirtless photo on the beach. This dude is built and he is in FIRST CLASS shape. You known what she said?? “He looks like a jerk”. She’s looking at a picture of a great looking guy and reacts like he treated her badly.
What a stupid f~~~ing c~~~.
She can dildo herself. I wouldn’t set up a c~~~ like that with a friend of mine even if she paid me.
More importantly, take a guy she does NOT think is attractive, give him a haircut a nice car , snappy shoes, a crisp shirt, and she wouldn’t even be able to tell he is the same person. THey are the sex that decides to f~~~ a guy (or not) based on the SHOES he is wearing.
Women rating men online – or from photos – is ANYTHING but “honest”.
That’s why women say s~~~ like “I don’t know what it is about this guy, but I just can’t seem to get him out of my head”. Even SHE doesn’t understand why she is attracted to him. She doesn’t think he’s particularly good looking. He may even totally mistreat her , and she will still have the ‘gina tingles. That tells me women are LIARS when it comes to rating guys on appearance.
Go out on a date with any woman who seems really into you.
Then say something like “i don’t like kitty cats”.
The t~~~ will decide not to f~~~ you (or see you again) based on something THAT stupid.Don’t trust the female on her attraction mechanism.
She has no clue how it works and they are so far from “honest” about it.When a woman disqualifies your looks or appearance, it doesn’t mean a damn thing. Guaranteed.
They will f~~~ a greasy thug with tattoos and body piercings on a stolen motorbike behind their own husband’s back.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I am a male stripper. Everyone told me my whole life that I am good looking. I am a litlle bit short (5 feet 7) but broad sholders and good shape. In my teenage years many girls asked me out and I refused all of them because I prefered video games and sports with my friends. I started chasing women 6 or 7 years ago because lust was taking over my need for doing whatever the f~~~ I wanted and I fail miserably at it.
When I became stripper women started (again) to ask me out and to plain and simply wanting me to f~~~ them for free but now that sex is my job, I cannot sell myself cheap and I ask minimum 150$ a night to f~~~ a girl I don’t know and thats very very cheap… for fat girls its 120$ for an hour. I have a girl im seeing regularly and we have tons of sex but she is a 6.5/10 at most, I like her because she treats me well and because she is obedient and because she respect me and she knows I can just tell her to f~~~ off and I wouldn’t give a damn.
BUT no, I am still not successfull with women. My cold approach in the street have less than 1/100 chance of success. I get friendzoned by all the girls at my university. Internet dating is a huge disaster for me. I only get alot of offers from girls because of my work and what it implies I believe.
I look good but my game is horrible. Still getting pussy … but I won’t bang them for free they have to pay me.
Eh, I don’t really give a crap when a woman is uninterested me, and I don’t care to guess the reason why. She could see me as beneath her looks wise, it could be because she thinks I’m out her league. She could be in a relationship, she might be one of those white chicks that’s in to black guys only. Perhaps she’s assuming I don’t make enough money, or I’d be too needy or something. Point is, it’s her problem, not mine. It only because my problem when I think I need to be the guy she’s looking for. And then, I’ll be miserable if I try to be that guy, whether she like me or not.
Honestly, it’s a matter of perspective. I know my interested in women with is as or less successful then me, more of a homebody, with a big chest. That doesn’t mean I think that I don’t respect successful, always on the go, flat chested women….that’s just not for me. She shouldn’t take it personal if I’m not interested, so I’m not going to take it personal when the one I’m interested isn’t looking for me….because it’s not about me.
Ok. Then do it.
Jon92, I think your approach here is not beneficial to yourself.
This whole focus on looks is a virus from this gynocentric culture that infects and destroys men. It is based on the false assumption that if some gash doesn’t respond to you then you are somehow losing out and personally deficient in some way. That is all bitches have as a retort – “you cant get laid”. But when bitches dont have the value they think they have, your not getting laid is not an insult. And by not getting laid I mean your inquiry about how you look.
If we focus on how we look, even if it is just us looking in the mirror in the morning, many of us have internalized the voices of the gynocracy, hence my suggestion it is a virus we have been infected with. We then evaluate ourselves with those gynocentric standards. This is totally destructive to men, and such a subtle yet powerful mechanism. Some gash doesn’t even have to be looking at your, or ignoring you, for it to have power since it is internalized by many men.
If gash dont react or respond to your looks, dont give a f~~~. Dont give the gash that power over your self esteem. Learn what is important to you, and try to evaluate yourself based on your own goals, not the goals of they gynocracy that requires your submission and ultimately destruction. If you really want pussy, just pay for it, but dont give it any value that would be harmful to you.
You will in time find yourself unburdened of this destructive, internalized assessment from the gynocracy and it will be f~~~ing amazing and liberating.
I finally have time to go a little in depth on this. Here are two things that are guaranteed to get you positive attention from a woman. Any woman. They ALL respond this way, even the lesbians.
I already mentioned indifference. When a man is genuinely indifferent to a woman, even a woman who would normally think of herself as above him who you would think wouldn’t care, she cannot help but wonder what he has going on in his life that she doesn’t even rate a first glance from him. Then she immediately wonders if she can get herself a piece of whatever it is out of him. At the very least she will need to assuage her ego for being dismisses out of hand by him. It might take her awhile before she resorts to direct contact to resolve the matter, but eventually she will.
Another thing women are compulsively attracted to is competition from other women. If a well below average man is accompanied by an attractive woman other women will automatically look favorably towards him and be attracted to him. They can’t help themselves, especially if the woman he is with is more attractive than they themselves are. What’s happening is the primitive core of their brains understands that its much more efficient to poach a suitable partner that another woman has already selected than go through the effort of seeking a suitable partner herself. The woman you’re with doesn’t even need to be physically present for this behavior in women to manifest. For an experiment, walk around for a few days wearing a wedding band, the larger and more obvious the better, and see how women you don’t know treat you differently.
Now why am I mentioning these two effects in a thread about male looks and appearance? What do they have to do with how a man looks? Absolutely nothing. And that’s the point. Women are attracted to good looking men, but they are even more attracted to what they can’t have and what other women have. When the primitive reptile cores of their brains start doing the math of attraction, the man himself doesn’t even enter into the equation. This is why a man who is repelled by a fat, ugly, unhygienic cow will still find that fat, ugly, dirty cow repellent even after finding out she’s a wealthy heiress. A woman, in contrast, after learning a man she previously found unattractiveis secretly wealthy, will reevaluate her position and even fool herself into thinking she always found him attractive.
My last reply just brought some emotions up that has bothered me for a long time. I just have to get it off my chest. I grew up in a normal family environment, two married parents and none of the bulls~~~ that a lot of people had to deal with growing up. I was taught to have very high self esteem. That being said, I never thought I was a bad looking or ugly guy. But i have to tell you, I feel like one. This is why…Ive never had very much success with women.
I’ve had much success with women and I owe that success to my height, physique, skin hue, voice and “verbal karate”.
I’ve had much success with women and I owe that success to my height, physique, skin hue, voice and “verbal karate”.
@Zuberi, that is the kind of subtle social engineering that we need to identify and correct. I’m not saying it was intentional, it’s the “programming” that we have all been subjected to.
The presumption that a man is “successful” or “lucky”, just because he got to risk his life, pursuing an orgasm, puts too much value on the vag. You wouldn’t say I was successful in rubbing one out. Or I was successful in taking a dump, so why do we feel successful in getting laid? I don’t like it because it pedestalizes women and presumes men are inferior. I know I’m just as guilty of it, and I’m trying to make an effort to stamp it out. I think it’s the women that are lucky to have my throbbing salami slammed down their throats, and they are successful in getting a good stretching and facial.
When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
I’ve had much success with women and I owe that success to my height, physique, skin hue, voice and “verbal karate”.
@Zuberi, that is the kind of subtle social engineering that we need to identify and correct. I’m not saying it was intentional, it’s the “programming” that we have all been subjected to. The presumption that a man is “successful” or “lucky”, just because he got to risk his life, pursuing an orgasm, puts too much value on the vag. You wouldn’t say I was successful in rubbing one out. Or I was successful in taking a dump, so why do we feel successful in getting laid? I don’t like it because it pedestalizes women and presumes men are inferior. I know I’m just as guilty of it, and I’m trying to make an effort to stamp it out. I think it’s the women that are lucky to have my throbbing salami slammed down their throats, and they are successful in getting a good stretching and facial.
I’ve never had to risk my life for vag even though it has been offered to me on more than one occasion.
With that being said, I don’t put women on a pedestal nor do I give my vigor and vitality to them.
They aren’t worth it.
I’ve never had to risk my life for vag even though it has been offered to me on more than one occasion. With that being said, I don’t put women on a pedestal nor do I give my vigor and vitality to them. They aren’t worth it.
All I ask, is for you to consider, that every time a man has sex with a woman, he is literally RISKING HIS LIFE:
1/ Potential Child Support.
2/ Potential Rape charge.
3/ Potential STD.
Describing it as “success”, presumes that you’ve accomplished something, I believe it’s part of the social engineering that puts pussy on the pedestal for us to qualify for. I am presenting this viewpoint, against the social engineering we have all been indoctrinated with.
When I have sex with a woman I don’t consider it as any form of success, any more than eating a nice meal, or drinking a nice scotch. I reserve the meaning of “success” to accomplishing worthwhile goals, and women will never be one of them.
I hope you see my point of view, but if not that’s fine, I’m happy to have a differing point of view, it seems to be a common side effect of the Red Pill.
When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
Once you transcend the need for female approval, and don’t give half a f~~~ about anything, and be your absolute best version of yourself – you feel way better every morning, and some chicks start coming to you. Don’t bother with the ones that either don’t approach you, expect you to approach them, or get offended by your existence.
Life is too short to impress people who don’t truly know what they want anyway. Hope this helps a bit more.
FWIW: There’s a lot more at stake here than initially meets the eye.
http://www.fathersforlife.org/health/aussuic.htm
In Australia, divorced men are at least three times as likely to commit suicide.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
MGTOW strategy, PUA tactics. I’ve found this to be particularly useful. Keep in mind that the better part of the PUA community aren’t realized PUAs, they’re just sexually frustrated guys who want to be alphas and get alpha-level pussy, but they’re still just learning. Mystery’s s~~~ is mostly horrendous. He may have tactics down but brass tacks- he’s a malignant narcissist whose entire universe revolves around manipulating women into validating his need for attention. Most of us can relate to feeling a need for female companionship at some point. Some of us have allowed this to become painful and destructive. I know it’s what led me to MGTOW. The final step in growing into your own true masculinity: stop pretending that you don’t give a f~~~ and actually stop giving a f~~~. All the indoctrination you’ve ever had about your worth as a man being measured by the beauty of the woman you’re with is complete and utter bulls~~~. I don’t know why and nor do I care, but truly stopping the f~~~-giving is like catnip to sluts. Don’t improve your life to impress anyone. Improve your life because it FEELS F~~~ING AWESOME.
A f~~~ing men to this 🙂
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