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Congratulations man. I have been following your situation and very pleased to hear this.
Best news all day! Keep it up and best wishes.
Anonymous42she said “You’re not going anywhere unless you have divorce papers”
As she Jerks the chain to your dog collar
She says, “then tell your kids that you are abandoning them”.
Oh the guilt, oh the shame! What about her adoption of the state over you as subprime commander? Her betrayal to her husband? Her rumination of family? Her VILE domination over you using the state and all it’s advantages? What about her FALSE testimony?
So for now she’s quiet. But something will come….and I do admit I fear that unknown…
Be strong in the valley of death, fear no evil, the boulders will roll away at your slightest touch, the rain will stop, the sun will shine again! All that matters is you keeping a healthy mind for your kids sake, she was poison, is poison, and most likely will remain poison.
Don’t trust her, she’s a manipulative bitch capable of “playing nice”, a mind f~~~ in the making, a grenade RELOAD! If you think men have red pill rage, wait until the truth sets in on her royal highn’ass, FURY! Steer clear, and wear your flack jacket at all times!
One constant I learned about women without a doubt; THEY’LL ALWAYS DO IT AGAIN!
Her plan was to use the state to make you do what she wanted. Often, what it is a woman wants is to make a man assume the role of responsible adult (work, sacrifice, accountability etc) so that she can assume the role of adolescent (old enough to have control, but not yet being held responsible/accountable).
Often enough, the state will go right along with this plan once she initiates it, but usually it’s the wife/mother that initiates the plan. In addition to the state’s leverage she has over over you legally and financially once you sign that contract, she will also use your children as hostages for emotional leverage and for revenge. This is the plan, and it’s likely been somewhere in her head since long before you ever met her. All this you probably already know as it’s more and more obvious all the time.
What’s less apparent is that there is almost always no back up plan if this doesn’t work. If you don’t cave in to the threats, and don’t cooperate with the blackmail, she is not going to have a very well thought out course of action for what to do next. That doesn’t mean she won’t do anything. It just means that what she will do is likely to be reactionary, poorly thought out and disorganized. In many abusive relationships, the period of greatest instability and uncertainty is when the abused begins to extricate from the relationship. It’s the lack of a back up plan that creates the anxiety, then panic, then rage.
She’ll show you the limit of what she’s capable of, but as long as you don’t agree to return, she’ll have to show you from a distance. KEEP YOUR DISTANCE!
She can scream and yell and threaten and do all the other things… But she cannot kill you, and she cannot stop the clock. None of the worst of what she can do is permanent without your cooperation. Children eventually grow up and make their own decisions. Child support eventually ends. The number of times that you have to interact with her will dwindle and eventually they will end as well.
Many freed slaves feared the unknown. Many newly released prisoners feel the same way. The unknown is frightening that way, only because it is unknown. In all the best horror movies, the scariest things happen just off the screen and the viewer is required to imagine them. Hitchc~~~, Spielburg, King… all the great ones know this. In surveys of the scariest movies of all time, Norman Bates in “Psycho” by Hitchc~~~ is invariably the winner. The shark in “Jaws” is frequently the 1st or second runner up. In both movies, the scariest things happen just off screen. In Jaws, you hear the ominous music and maybe see a fin stick up out of the water, or see a swimmer get pulled under, but you have to watch for damn near two hours before you actually see the shark. In Psycho, you see a girl’s face when she screams, and you see blood (ink) running down the shower drain, but you never see a knife hit skin. You have to imagine that… and it’s each individual’s imagination that does the best job of maximally scaring that individual.
As scary as these movies are, if you had someone who’d seen them before sitting next to you telling you how the story was going to end, they would be a lot less frightening, because your imagination wouldn’t have so much room to run. It would ruin the movie if someone did that because it would take all the mystery (and the imagination) out of the equation.
Think of me and the other mgtow’s gathered here as that guy sitting next to you in the theater spoiling the ending by telling you what happens and how this ends. We have seen this movie many times, and we have starred in our own personal versions of it.
And here’s the way your story is going to go:
It will be definitely messy and possibly loud. There might be a plot twist or a surprise here and there, but you don’t die at the end… And unless you volunteer for another starring role in it, there ain’t no sequel to this story…!!!
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Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
Anonymous42It’s the lack of a back up plan that creates the anxiety, then panic, then rage.
BP’s 1,2,3’s are brilliant! I enjoyed your post once again! Hit the +1 by the third line! As usual!
Hey Robot, Remember alien? ya never saw the creature, with mgtow’s exposing the creature strength, strategy, and vulnerabilities, and with an imbedded tracking device, you’ll cruise in relative comport all the way to the end of the movie!
Hey BP, pass the popcorn, I’ll trade ya some snowflakes! HA HA
Do this. I know you aren’t medicated as of yet. So please do this. MANY peole are extremely negligent of nutrition when it comes to moods and your overall wellbeing. How can a vitamin deficiency cause, say, depression?…. that just sounds stupid…. Fine, think that, ever hear of people with various types of anemias and the havoc they cause to ones body, including hair falling out………………
Do this. Get a B complex vitamin, as b vitamins are EXTREMELY important for correct cognitive functioning INCLUDING REGULATION OF YOUR MOODS……… Secondly, so is fish oil…. in fact, when taking the antideppressant known as wellbutrin MANY psychiatrists will prescribe fish oil ALONG WITH IT…. It helps to regulate mood. Both of these things are DIRT cheap, so get to it buddy before you end up taking that woman’s bait……. Lasty, you should also try taking ginkgo biloba, and over the counter herbal supplement (and one of the most popular in the US at that), that helps with memory (you’re going to NEED to be sharp), and markedly helps with mood lifting. Just do these three things man and report back. Please don’t overlook this, as the same way you were just humbled with the notion of marriage from this c~~~, you may find yourself being greatly humbled by the use of these three things for your mood. They can quite possibly serve as an extra stepping stone in winning this battle of depression…. If it does nothin for you, I swear I will forward you the money from my paypal to reimburse you. That’s how much I want you to win this thing
Thanks to all of you again. I woke up this morning thinking “is it all worth it? May as well just sit it out, live is short anyway…” I had to practically shout at myself to get me back on track. I got back on track, but hell that wasn’t nice.
So @qowpel I will get the vitamins and supplements. I read conflicting stuff about supplements, but I have my own positive experiences with magnesium and also with zinc, so I’ll give it a try.
On another level guys, and really I just want to get this off my chest, I have been looking at other peoples relationships, even strangers. Firstly, quite a few of the people I know who split up with their partner went into a new relationship straight away. Often the new relationship was already in place when the old one crumbled. How crazy is that?
Secondly, I realize that everything is about “compromises”, giving in, asking the wife…I mean whatever I want from someone they have to ask the wife and if she says no….when I look at strangers, the women are almost always in charge, you can observe this everywhere…The other day I was talking to a friend about this sort of thing and he said that’s completely not how his relationship is. He assured me its fantastic and so on and a minute later he got told off (like a child would be told off) because he was talking to me whilst she wanted him to do something…unbelievable, I feel like I am awakening from a very bad dream….
I strongly recommend a daily vitamin/supplement regime as well. It is completely safe and will make significant difference especially at stressful times like this.
For over 30 years every morning I have taken a complete multi-vitamin and 500mg vitamin C. The multi-vitamin has the B-complex but you may try adding to it with a separate B-complex supplement. If it is more than your body needs a particular day that’s ok you will p~~~ it out.
As I got older and the testosterone started to decline significantly, I started adding DHEA which is a precursor to testosterone. Think of it as hormone replacement therapy for men. Start with a low dose like 25mg and work up until you start to recover the energy and endurance that faded in your 30s. I have been doing DHEA daily for about 10 years. Also, for achy joints try Glucosamine Sulfate. I have taken it daily for many years as well (some doctors prescribe it) and when I miss it my joints let me know!
There are many natural supplements that can be effective for depression and clear thinking. I have used St. John’s Wort, B-complex, Melatonin (before bed), Ginko Biloba, and guys have listed others above. Also search online lots of good advice. Try to find high quality ones that are standardized and experiment. Because of varying body chemistry ones that work well for me may be less effective for you. In some circles (usually with people who haven’t really tried or studied them) they are not recommended or seen as effective but, like as many things MGTOW, you can determine that for yourself.
The most effective multiplier of all the above is to get good exercise every day. For me that is walking about 2 miles twice a day. Maybe for you its jogging. Or go to a gym twice a week and walk the other days. Start now and after about two weeks you will find yourself wanting to do it.
Finally, as a man you have the ability (and responsibility actually) to choose what you regularly think about, talk about, read about, dwell about, absorb into, etc as those will determine the path/destination you will change/grow into. Think hard about who you want to become and where you want to go. As much as possible eliminate from your mind and experience things that work against that. That is a life lived more intentional and less reactive.
You are on the right path so stay the course. You CAN do it!
It is for very good reasons the Devil chose to tempt Eve not Adam...
Anonymous42I feel compelled to mention what I found out about vitamins, be careful you DON’T take MEGA DOSES! You can buildup TOXIC amounts of these micro nutrients in your blood ( I was tempted to make my own vitamins and minerals from the purified compounds I have) After seeing what IMBALANCE can do to destroy a plant, I wisely decided not to, not that couldn’t, but that I shouldn’t without at least testing my blood. The calcium cation like in Tums or Rolaids will lower your magnesium and give you muscle cramps and fatigue. And there’s million other things that can go wrong!
Lately I’ve been eating my major and micro nutrients in the fruits vegetables I grew, If I were to add more in the form of purified chemical compounds, I just may be causing nutrient overload and chemical binding of the elements in my system, my stomach (in theory) with an electrode and anode I could start my own plating company. If you start f~~~ing with PH and strong base/acid you can screw up yourself bad!
I read in my searches their finding certain cancers linked to nutrient overloading in human beings (MEGA DOSE VITAMINS), I’ll let the plants decide what’s a good dose! They’re overload filters for animals…
Another thing, just because it’s rated for human consumption doesn’t mean it’s usable in the human body… Paraffin wax and certain polymers are also eatable, and added to foods regularly! Those phony chem-shakes at Mc Donalds are as artificial as plastic! I NEVER eat that kind of s~~~!
Eat good, and try vitamins, they can help, but don’t over do it…
The last few days since the hearing have been great. I sometimes can’t believe the freedom I have now. But then I notice how often there are references in TV and movies illustrating how women control men. It’s what we supposed to take as normal and laugh about it. It’s like if you’re not in a relationship and not controlled by a woman then you’re an oddball.
I can’t laugh about this and if you read today’s articles on Terence Howard, I’m sure he isn’t laughing either…http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150814/us–people-terrence_howard-7a4bcf9d9b.html
Anonymous42Hi Robot! Good to hear you’re in such good spirits! I like seeing you with a positive outlook! It’s like you’re a guitar being tuned in and sounding much better! Music to my ears! It’s like we can see life reentering your mind as you progress with your new found freedom! I’ll sleep a little better tonight knowing you’re alive and well! Hang in there brother, and whenever you feel yourself slipping, come back here and we’ll give you a hand! We care, because we’ve been there! May the force empower you!
I find that in situations like this the only response is to let go of all emotions and approach the entire thing with nothing but cold, calculating logic. Define your goal, lay out the steps required to reach it, and follow those step rigorously. Your cold, unemotional logic can be used as a spotlight to pierce any fog she’s sending your way. Always remember- we men are born problem solvers. Good luck Brother.
hope you are doing fine now
“I spent my life trying not to be careless. Women and children can be careless but not men” - Godfather
@LivingAgain I’m doing much better thanks. Taking vitamins, just realized that I haven’t felt guilty in a while, that felt great just now. I am house sitting for a friend. Not really have a fixed abode at this point but that’s not bothering me right now.Got to start sorting out financials as a next step. Depression is pretty much gone at the moment!!!
Anonymous42Hey robot, everything in this thread has come true, your brothers in pain will never steer you wrong!
I’m thrilled to see you’re doing much better! Extracting “all the poison” takes time. The good thing is that your levels of toxicity have dropped off dramatically, it looks like you’re in the discovery stage, where the world looks more manageable, when things seem better.
Wait till you get to the realization stage, when every bone in your body rejoices in your own sovereignty, it’s when you reclaim yourself for a better use, it’s when you’re up and running on your own accord, It’s when you start seeing the direction signs. It’s a fantastic experience! you’ll see!
Robot I read your story and I’m behind and rooting for you. I’m impressed with the overwhelming support and advice given here; I couldn’t stop reading. I think the nutrition and exercise will definitely help fight off the depression. Lift some weights and get those endorphin’s going. You’re doing great keep it up!
thanks all! The fight is not over. Everyday her texts get worse. I know I should ignore but she makes me so mad with her ignorance.
It’s also difficult to ignore because of the childcare arrangements, we do that via text messaging.She is so annoying I don’t know what to do…
Anonymous42Hey Robot, she’s gonna get less and less annoying as time goes on, her hamster wheel brain is spinning at full speed, your brain needs a rest, realize one thing, “she’s self centered” You threw her off balance, your gravitational field is no longer restrained in her orbit.
Expect her to go death-star on you, and hope she doesn’t, Being prepared for the worst is a logical policy.
She’s proven she’s a liar to your detriment and demise.
Give her no port of entry into your now solace and peaceful harbor of reconstruction and vitality.
I take no comfort in giving you the red pill of your wife’s incurable gynocentric psychosis, she’s honestly poisonous to the spirit of man, your spirit, you know, Robot’s spirit, Robot’s happiness, Robot’s health, ROBOT’S WORLD!
I hope for your sake you’re documenting EVERY illogical and unethical thing she’s done.
The fight’s not over until it’s over.
The more nasty aggressive rude and vindictive documentation you save against her, the more bullet proof you become!
I’m glad to be of service to you (my brother) by helping you to knit a bullet proof vest from MGTOW Mills kevelar and carbon fiber…
You’re in good hands, we’re on the outside peering in and understanding the overview from every possible vantage.
Hang in there bro, it only gets better!!!I’m not happy. She’s harassing me everyday for money. I have not enough and she’s not working with the toddler at home. I can’t stop all contact because of my children, but how can I get her to stop harassing me. I pay enough for food, drink and bills but she wants more more more. Please my brothers I need advice…
Anonymous11Robot: It’s good to see you back here, man. She’s harassing you. That’s to be expected and is going to require you to be steadfast as well as able to handle her accusations properly without triggering her to harm you or the children. She may be trying to wear you down over time. I’m still hoping she finds a replacement for you soon.
You’re right no contact is impossible. Low contact is the best you can hope for here.
she wants more more more
In regards to the law, what are your exact obligations to her?
Welcome, and let me say your story is deeply touching and gut wrenching. I am also touched by the support offered by the previous posters.
Legal advice: You have been successfully framed and got thrown in the clink for it. So you have a very good idea of what will happen if you let the wheels of justice run over you again.
I can not improve on the advice given you by the previous posters, but I can underscore it.
Keep records. Keep records. Keep records. Recordings are best. Get screenshots of text messages, emails, her social media entries, and whatever else appears on the internet. Get audio and video of face to face conversations. Have friendly witnesses with you every time you meet her, and take that recording. Make friends with a good lawyer. Lots of lawyers will dispense free advice if you buy them lots of drinks.
I have lawyers in my extended family and among my friends (all USA law, not UK). The above is what they have told me a time or two.
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