Just kicked son out

[MelkiorrParticipant 200]

It is a good thing to kick your son out, it will make him appreciate what you did for all these years for him. Not only that but it will teach him how to man up, and not be like all these wimps still living at home at 30 or returning because they cant make it, it will make him stronger, responsible for his actions and mostly he will learn the value of things. He will be angry at first but he will respect you and he will understand why you did it later.

His first years are gonna be difficult, you have to let him fail. There is a fine line between being overprotecting and knowing when he really need help.

His mom is probably gonna hate you for that, but who cares. You know birds, they kick their little one for them to fly by themselfves. They dont give a s~~~ about their feelings.

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

Melkiorr wrote:

You know birds, they kick their little one for them to fly by themselfves. They dont give a s~~~ about their feelings.

And when birds offspring gets kicked out, those birds never see their parents again. Comparing parenting to birds is a really s~~~ty analogy.

Puffin Stuff wrote:

(I’m not religeous but think the ten commandments are a pretty basic ethical model and “honoring they father and mother” and “do not bear false witness” are in top 10, right up there with “murder”).

This. I’m not religious either, but I do agree with it.

Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

[Photon_ManSpectator 47]

Sons must submit to fathers…

[BufordParticipant 935]

There comes a moment when you have to let the children go in everyone’s life. It’s not that easy a thing to do, but it must happen.

It’s unfortunate for you that you’ve had to do it in an unpleasant way and for unpleasant reasons. You’ve done all you can for your son in difficult circumstances, the fault is not yours, and I think you’ve done the right thing.

Perhaps a strong dose of reality will bring out some masculinity in him, I’m not talking about machismo, I’m talking about self-reliance and self-honesty. These are traits not present in females, and which females cannot teach a man anything about.

I know it hurts, but I would have done the same.

Parents are responsible for children, adults are responsible for themselves (at least MEN are anyway).

"This happens every time one of these floozies starts poontangin' around with those show folk fags. - Sheriff Buford T. Justice"

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

He’s an adult, so you have no more responsibility toward him. However . . .

Is he begging for forgiveness and promising to turn a new leaf? And do you believe him? If so, perhaps daddy can let his little boy have one more chance (with strict conditions, of course)?

Dunno, but it seems kinda cruel to completely disown family members. Be mad at, resent, want nothing to do with—but disown? Seems a bit much.

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[Anonymous 3]

My daughter once told me she was a good kid, studying and getting good grades, so I didn’t have anything to complain.
I just told her: what are you doing for me? You are studying for YOUR FUTURE, I am allowing you to do so by paying for your education. I love you and I want the best for you, but the key words are: its FOR YOU, not ME.

What we see today is an inversion of values, where kids make fathers hostages over their own life! They are always at the toddler level when fathers are responsible for their well-being regardless of their irresponsibility.

Again its the dictatorship of the weak. My mother-in-law is a total nutcase, always in fear that a kid will commit suicide if not pandered.

Is that teaching responsibility? That is creating people in a fantasy world that does not exist!

It comes a point, very early in children’s life, that they must be accountable by their behavior. I myself do not put any pressure in them, I just state the rules and apply them dispassionately. They get the results of their actions.

However, their mother is always boycotting me, reverting my decisions and generally operating emotionally without any form of consistency. She ends up using all kinds of bullying tactics and emotional pressure when the inevitable screw-ups happen.

Fathers KNOW BETTER. Today MOTHERS RUIN EVERYTHING.

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

Anonymous wrote:

I agree with the others, Max Power, you did the right thing. The kid was trying to see if he could get away with some casual abuse of family members. Who knows where he picked that up–his mother or somewhere else. That kind of language may be fine among friends. But it’s important to teach him that that stuff doesn’t fly in the family or when targeted against someone who is paying the bills (biting the hand that feeds you, and all that).

So you set the example. He becomes a good man himself when you show him how a good man (you) reacts to something like that. In this case, you show him that a good man doesn’t put up with casual abuse in the family. You set limits and you enforce them.

As you said, he’s an adult and he was moving out soon anyway. So I certainly don’t think the punishment was excessive.

EXACTLY.

He was basically checking his boundaries like children do. You showed him where they are. You can’t take him back in till he starts turning into goddamn gents from the 1950’s. Yeah, its hard, but is hard because all those years of him getting away with s~~~ left him wondering what it takes to become socially unacceptable.

Imagine getting a new job. You want to know the unwritten rules just like those who have been there working with their co-workers for 5 years. What you can get away with, what you cant. Well imagine if you got away with everything, you’d be looting after 19 years and starting fist fights because you know the boss is a simp and you won’t be let go. Good bosses provide not just guidance to avoid punishment but also PUNISHMENT.

That’s what happened. This is why single mothers are generally S~~~ at raising adults and you need an authority figure to catch bulls~~~ when the tykes are still small and cute as f~~~. That’s when it happens. When they realize they can get away with s~~~ and it snowb~~~~ from there.

[Max PowerParticipant 2721]

Thanks for all the advice fellas.

In summary:

He has moved out. He accepts he was a dick and has profusely apologised like a man. We are cool.

He is at heart a good kid who simply has some very deep female-caused trauma (mother) that sometimes gets the better of him. Most of us here can relate.

He is at uni and he works. He was contributing financially when he was living with me. I raised him to contribute and understand he has to work.

Disowning him was never an option and is clearly an extreme thing for a father to do to his son for no appropriate reason. He and I are fine.

Thanks again everyone.

[B4TOWParticipant 209]

Sorry to hear about your times Brother.
I haven’t any kids. But what I do have is a lot of experience interacting with humans. Lately it has been heavy study of female behavior. As most of you.

His comment of you dying alone is very feminine. A great fear of the female is to die alone and they feel that everyone has that feeling. Men do not. It just goes to show you how they really have not taken the time to understand Men. I do not feel they ever will because they are so self centered.

Anyway, you did the correct thing. You have a Human disrespecting you and you cannot have that in your life. The kid was taken from you by the state (public school educated by females) and his mother and a lot has entered his brain without you being there. This is not your fault! It’s not. It’s just truth that needs to be realized. He is not getting his way and used female strategy to try to achieve it. Yelling and Shaming. Hopefully the world can teach him his errors.
In conclusion. I would write him a hand written letter stating your position in all of this. That you love him but you will not take any s~~~ of any kind from him. That you will be glad to sit with him and explain what that means.
That he is welcome to have this talk at anytime but the ball is in his court. He has to make the move of any repairs.
He may come to you for help prior to this talk. Make sure he understands that is not an option. Stick to your guns with this one. Let him know you re not angry with him and the rest of the world treats you this way and I’ll be damned if I am going to let my own flesh and blood do it.
That is my advice. Take all of the advice from your Brothers and draw your best conclusion. I am sure you will make the best decision.
A side note. Say C~~~ if it is needed. I would like this site to be without any type of language censorship.
f~~~ s~~~ p~~~ s~~~ s~~~ if that is what is needed to get it out.
You had a Brother that had to post a whole nuther post to ask what the censored word was.
CENSORSHIP KILLS INNOVATION!!
I said that. It is a conclusion I have arrived.
AND S~~~ I JUST READ THE LAST POST WHERE YOU TWO ARE COOL NOW. F~~~ ME I WROTE ALL THIS. I am a tard!

Good for you man. Posting it anyways.

[Max PowerParticipant 2721]

Hey thanks a lot mate, I really appreciate your effort to care and help.

The level of concern and help I have experienced just in this one topic is a testament to the greatness of this site and the calibre of men here. So glad to be a part of it.

How society is supposed to be. Good men giving good guidance.

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

Max Power wrote:

Thanks for all the advice fellas.

In summary:

He has moved out. He accepts he was a dick and has profusely apologised like a man. We are cool.

He is at heart a good kid who simply has some very deep female-caused trauma (mother) that sometimes gets the better of him. Most of us here can relate.

He is at uni and he works. He was contributing financially when he was living with me. I raised him to contribute and understand he has to work.

Disowning him was never an option and is clearly an extreme thing for a father to do to his son for no appropriate reason. He and I are fine.

Thanks again everyone.

Really good to hear. It came about because you showed him you won’t be taking s~~~. It’s nothing personal, its how people learn.

[StandUpGuyParticipant 334]

Read my words very carefully; for I know more about this than most on this site. To be clear; this topic is ingrained in my family and over all way of thinking.

When a young man hits 18 years old and still lives at home he pays rent; acts like an adult or the has moves out. I come from a family of 10; and all of the boys had to do this.

You are doing him the best favor in the world. How else is he going to be a grown man? Stop paying for his school; make him get a job and live on his own. This is the only way he will learn to be his own man.

Do not cry a tear or even a sigh. Are you raising a child or a man? At 19 he needs to act like a man.

Time to be strong to show him the way. Otherwise, from my view ;you are no father at all; and just another mangina validating the bad behavior of women.

It ok to give him a car (if needed) and some money to start out.
Moreover let him know how much you love and respect him; and it is time for him to GO HIS OWN WAY.

[OgreParticipant 5863]

I’m a little late to this one, but the last time my daughter threw me attitude I started asking her all about the apartment that I knew she didn’t have and couldn’t afford just like she was moving the next day.

I figured it was nicer than telling her she can suck c~~~ for tuition money next semester.

Sometimes tough love is the last thing that you can offer them before you send them out into the World. It will eat them up and spit them right out without a care. It sounds like even though you judged yourself harshly you actually did him a solid in the long run.

If he can’t control his attitude with you the next guy might seriously injure him. Enjoy the place to yourself, he’ll come around.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

My son argues with everything i say(Just like his mother did.) and has not worked steady for about two years.Its breakimg my heart..He will be 20 in a few months.He graduated with honors from highschool with honors.
I am going to be the one to leave.Im going to save up some money and disapear.He is in for a rude awakening.I just am not going to allow anyone to talk to me like im just a peice of s~~~ ever again.
Im sorry you are going thru this brother.I feel your pain.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Max PowerParticipant 2721]

Thanks guys. All good.

Good luck with your plan bro. I feel ya too.

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