Is it the decline of Western Civilization?

[calypsoParticipant 68]

Believe it or not, all this is doing is supporting my case. As the pace of degeneration increases, at some point it will catastrophic for us all.

This is our civilization. Our forefathers built it. We must take it back before we’re beyond the point of no return.

Since this is an intro thread, I’ll put one on this topic in another spot for those interested. I assure you there’s a solution, and when the solution occurs all of the symptomatic problems will go away…and no one will be trying to force your son to try on tutus and suck Muslim dick.

We have all the pieces. We just need to do what all our forefathers have done – fight.

[Anonymous 12]

Until women start feeling very threatened and work out that they might need men to protect them from the hordes of rapists that they encourage the Govt to let in then nothing much will change.

It will take full destabilization and meltdown before anything can be achieved. Or the Muslims and Africans take over because for all their faults they do have a no s~~~ taken attitude to these things which will support them.

As I wrote on my profile, “The side with the strongest male culture will prevail”.

[Max PowerParticipant 2721]

It’s all over, sooner or later. All of it. It’s inevitable. It always was.

[calypsoParticipant 68]

Anonymous wrote:

Until women start feeling very threatened and work out that they might need men to protect them from the hordes of rapists that they encourage the Govt to let in then nothing much will change.

It will take full destabilization and meltdown before anything can be achieved. Or the Muslims and Africans take over because for all their faults they do have a no s~~~ taken attitude to these things which will support them.

As I wrote on my profile, “The side with the strongest male culture will prevail”.

I don’t necessarily disagree. But again, I’d argue we need to be ready for the carnage. There’s a method to the madness.

[PrincekieParticipant 1042]

Anonymous wrote:

Until women start feeling very threatened and work out that they might need men to protect them from the hordes of rapists that they encourage the Govt to let in then nothing much will change.

It will take full destabilization and meltdown before anything can be achieved. Or the Muslims and Africans take over because for all their faults they do have a no s~~~ taken attitude to these things which will support them.

As I wrote on my profile, “The side with the strongest male culture will prevail”.

The side with the strongest masculine culture isn’t the western one. Not by a country mile. And then some.

The people coming into Europe have known this for a long time. You can preach liberal values, tolerance, diversity and peace. But when you have cultures are ready to assert their masculinity and power in order to get what THEY want, then its game over western man.

I’ve worked with Pakistani and Turks. I’ve worked with Africa men. I know what they think of “western values”.

[calypsoParticipant 68]

Princekie wrote:

Morlock wrote:

Until women start feeling very threatened and work out that they might need men to protect them from the hordes of rapists that they encourage the Govt to let in then nothing much will change.

It will take full destabilization and meltdown before anything can be achieved. Or the Muslims and Africans take over because for all their faults they do have a no s~~~ taken attitude to these things which will support them.

As I wrote on my profile, “The side with the strongest male culture will prevail”.

The side with the strongest masculine culture isn’t the western one. Not by a country mile. And then some.

The people coming into Europe have known this for a long time. You can preach liberal values, tolerance, diversity and peace. But when you have cultures are ready to assert their masculinity and power in order to get what THEY want, then its game over western man.

We’re smarter than they are. It took 400+ years of Muslim attacks before the Crusades were formed in response. We don’t have that kind of time this time around, and we have a largely effeminized population of “males,” but we are much, much smarter. We can leverage technology as force multipliers. We need control of the right positions. That’s something we can do.

[AutoliteParticipant]

calypso wrote:

This is our civilization. Our forefathers built it. We must take it back before we’re beyond the point of no return.

We’re already past the point or no return. Just look what’s happening in France, Sweden, Germany and Canada. Westerners are proactive about the obliteration of their own society and culture. I don’t think this has happened before in the history of mankind. How do you stop people that collectively want to destroy their own way of life???

[Anonymous 1]

Oh yes, I agree completely. There is not a more fitting analogy between “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” and the times we find ourselves in. We are now entering a new sort of Corporate Feudalism. We are transitioning into The Dark Ages. For very similar reasons as what happened to Rome also. They say history repeats itself and the collapse of Western Civilization is inevitable. There is still hope though. We must preserve the light of intellect through the ensuing darkness. We are like the Monks of Old keeping the knowledge alive. Welcome to the brotherhood. 🙂

[calypsoParticipant 68]

Autolite wrote:

calypso wrote:

This is our civilization. Our forefathers built it. We must take it back before we’re beyond the point of no return.

We’re already past the point or no return. Just look what’s happening in France, Sweden, Germany and Canada. Westerners are proactive about the obliteration of their own society and culture. I don’t think this has happened before in the history of mankind. How do you stop people that collectively want to destroy their own way of life???

I still need to start that other thread, but while I generally agree with your observations, it has happened before. Either we fix it proactively (unlikely, but worth a shot) or we prepare for the collapse proactively. In the end, the Dark Ages gave way to the Renaissance. It can happen again. It’s ours to deal with.

[calypsoParticipant 68]

Anonymous wrote:

Oh yes, I agree completely. There is not a more fitting analogy between “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” and the times we find ourselves in. We are now entering a new sort of Corporate Feudalism. We are transitioning into The Dark Ages. For very similar reasons as what happened to Rome also. They say history repeats itself and the collapse of Western Civilization is inevitable. There is still hope though. We must preserve the light of intellect through the ensuing darkness. We are like the Monks of Old keeping the knowledge alive. Welcome to the brotherhood.

What we have to do, at a minimum, is form an alternative economy where capital is deprived from these conglomerates and where we do business primarily with one another. Starve the beast and prep to rebuild.

[Anonymous 3]

Positioning is important, stealth is important, knowledge & technology can win out, but ” how can you stop people from participating in their own destruction” that is key. You can’t. Most men have become feminized by the BP matrix.Masculinity is waning in the west. I say it is imperative not to unify. MGTOW is representative of what is going on & look what happens when people mass to protest or speak to loudly.
If your reading this you have broken free from the spell you were under. There is in fact a lot that can b done. The tools are here.
The Master Warrior does not display his weapons. The Greatest victories are won without a battle.
The gift of being MGTOW is if I was standing right next to you,you wouldn’t know it that’s what makes me a winner.I am a ghost, I’m Johnny Zero

[calypsoParticipant 68]

Anonymous wrote:

Positioning is important, stealth is important, knowledge & technology can win out, but ” how can you stop people from participating in their own destruction” that is key. You can’t. Most men have become feminized by the BP matrix.Masculinity is waning in the west. I say it is imperative not to unify. MGTOW is representative of what is going on & look what happens when people mass to protest or speak to loudly.
If your reading this you have broken free from the spell you were under. There is in fact a lot that can b done. The tools are here.
The Master Warrior does not display his weapons. The Greatest victories are won without a battle.
The gift of being MGTOW is if I was standing right next to you,you wouldn’t know it that’s what makes me a winner.I am a ghost, I’m Johnny Zero

I agree with parts of what you’re saying. We can’t stop others from participating in their demise – especially if they do so with full knowledge. More and more men are amenable to seeing the light. Education is the first weapon. Unfortunately, IMO, that’s where progress seems to stop.

Checking out doesn’t help the bigger picture.

There are two ways to participate. One is as you state – being a ghost. I’ve been a ghost as to my knowledge base for some time. My real process began in the early 2000s. I didn’t know what MGTOW was, but I did discover how to disappear and how to leave disinformation. Much of my expertise is here. I can help make someone a ghost. For example, someone that wants completely out – I can show them how to leave the country, how to avoid paying any taxes the rest of their lives (completely legally), how to relocate, how to hide their trails online, etc, etc. I started working with clients on this in 2009, and I’ve lived somewhat that way since I went through the time, effort, and money to figure it out. That’s what I refer to in “going PT.”

But for me, this isn’t enough. It’s not going to fix, stop, or otherwise prepare for what may be an inevitability. I’ve come to believe you must either be really underground – and for a sufficiently determined attacker, it’s almost impossible to be completely covert (you’re going to make a mistake and blow your cover at some point). The other option is to be completely in the open. It’s dangerous to make a martyr.

Both positions are valid, valuable, and necessary in moving the goal of retaking civilization back. In fact, I believe it’s key to have most people in the cause completely off the grid and anonymous even to one another. Reality is, though, most people don’t know how to do this. Especially the younger guys without a lot of experience. Experience is a teacher, but a harsh one.

There is still a need to unify in the cause. That doesn’t mean that everyone needs to stick their heads out. That’s a personal decision on risk and reward. But if no one does anything other than watch it all happen, they will at best be ill prepared for the results and at worst case be eliminated in the carnage of collapse.

The path to victory is multi-pronged. There must be a plan to try and utilize the existing system to right the ship. As we all know, this is likely to fail. However, even in the off chance that it could work, it should be be done. This implies things like a level of activism, getting into local politics, etc. Changing things from within. Again, unlikely to work, but it provides a basis for something else…

The second prong should be preparing ourselves for the outcome. The idea that everyone should just watch it collapse and be unprepared for the aftermath on an individual level is, if you really think about it, insane. It’s like knowing that you and everyone that matters to you are going to have a major accident in a train that you’re on and yet just waiting for the accident to occur. Instead, you should be *at least* getting into position for the collision. Preparing mind, body and soul. Preparing tactics for after the collision. Preparing your finances. Going through the scenarios of what may occur and what to do. It’s physical, mental, spiritual, financial… Most importantly, there’s no reason to have to figure it all out by yourself. Your plan and preparation for your plan can be based on information that can be shared. It’s decentralized. It’s proactive. IMO, this is the most important thing. There are, again, those out there that would just despair. No reason – just prepare.

Finally, the last prong, is what can be done to stop the course of history or otherwise quickly gain ground once it all goes down. This is akin to 4th generation warfare – a many-headed hydra that rises up and takes control at an appropriate time before or after the collision. It can’t be decapitated. It’s the thing that can’t be taken out because it’s an idea – restoration of the Renaissance. Restoration of Western Civilization. It’s just as difficult an idea to stop as radical Islamic terrorism, but it’s about stopping the rot of our civilization instead of adding to it. And mind you, we have many, many more blue pill sympathizers that you may believe. They’re simply not red pilled yet. But that’s changing, and in their despair over red pilling, they simply try and hide from the facts. That’s what I’m talking about intercepting.

Imagine a very hypothetical situation where every enemy that knowingly or unknowingly has and is participating in the downfall of our world could be replaced, stopped, or eliminated with the push of a button. Now imagine that only you have control of the button. Do you push it? Do you push it even at the risk of collateral damage? I bet you do. I bet everyone does. The longer we wait, the higher the risk of problems.

Now realize that we are the button. Infiltration at every level. Leaderless, but knowing what to do and when to do it to restore sanity to an insane world. It’s time to take back education (indoctrination). It’s time to save ourselves and the civilization our forefathers built.

It’s possible. It requires a level of education, organization, privacy, and participation. The other option is simply watch it burn, and I can’t play the fiddle.

[CombatRollParticipant 2595]

Right on, Calypso.

I agree with your assessment and have felt somewhat helpless watching our civilization approach the cliff edge.

Being personally prepared is something I have taken steps toward, but I need to do more.

Ive also contemplated running for office and should do so.

We need to start another thread dedicated to this movement.

[calypsoParticipant 68]

Thanks CombatRoll. I appreciate the support. We have to do something.

I’m about to be out for a few hours, but I’ll start another thread.

[Anonymous 3]

Thank you,Calypso. Incredible post. I am going to have to reflect a little about all that you said.
A Ghost can scare the s~~~ out of people
Decentralized information. Yes
When Trump was asked about his ongoing strategy with N. Korea his answer was ” I’m not going to talk about it.” That is a type of ghosting in my estimation.
I like your style.
Another thread might b appropriate

[Anonymous 3]

Despairing does not do anybody any good
Opting out is a way to stop the madness.
The Blue Pill matrix ( our society at this point) needs adherents to continue. Opting out is a valid response after one wakes up, but that does not mean not actively working to change things. Once you understand the game. The game ends & starts to b reworked on your terms

[calypsoParticipant 68]

I’m starting a new thread which is probably more appropriate as a standalone in the Central area. Arguably, it could be considered Political, but I think that only encompasses a portion of the idea. Anyway, I’ve giving it my best shot as to location so feel free to move it…

[Epiphany52Participant 70]

First time post for me! It makes me happy to at least know that others see the rapid decline in Western society. Im in my early twenties so cannot claim to remember a better time but recognise from my own short lifetime that society is being changed for the worse. I have come to the exact same conclusion as I believe Johnny Zero stated – its too late to change things now we have passed the point of no return. Observe the decline, but dont think you can stop it now.

There is either something or there is nothing and in the face of a paradox, nothing makes more sense than something.

[calypsoParticipant 68]

Epiphany52 wrote:

First time post for me! It makes me happy to at least know that others see the rapid decline in Western society. Im in my early twenties so cannot claim to remember a better time but recognise from my own short lifetime that society is being changed for the worse. I have come to the exact same conclusion as I believe Johnny Zero stated – its too late to change things now we have passed the point of no return. Observe the decline, but dont think you can stop it now.

Funny that I just saw you write this now. I’ve started a thread in Central to address this topic. The last bit of the first post seems to suit your post…

[JohanTheGhost26Participant 32]

Honestly, I gave up. Just let it burn. The beauty of being men is that we can rebuild anything from the ashes of history. Anything.

Sometimes, we need a good old purification with fire to wipe the slate clean.

Plus, have you ever seen a blue pill try to change a tire? It’s laughable.

"A rattlesnake's skin is the same color as the leaves. Never forget that while walking through the woods."

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