Is it the decline of Western Civilization?

[calypsoParticipant 68]

Hi All,

Not sure how to begin a post here – I’m at a very weird point in my life. I’ve always lent my thoughts to big ideas, and perhaps that’s part of the problem. But as I look around the world today, I believe we’re near the next peak in civilization; one of those points in time where mankind is forced to shake out its excesses and return to the mean. At the risk of being cliche, it’s like the fall of Rome leading to the Dark Ages, or at least it looks that way to me.

This is something I’ve been pondering for some time. I got really serious about looking into it around 2003 as I ventured into the world of MGTOW, without knowing there was such a thing. Now the rise in MGTOW, at least in my opinion, is a *symptom* of the problems out there. The old values that allowed civilization to progress, the roles that people played out in furthering culture, and in particular, the role that men played in forging the future are all being replaced by smartphones operated by morons that advocate the destruction of everything of value that got mankind where it is today in favor of post modern feminism, transgender rights, and free money to live on the plantation.

F~~~ that.

I’m often torn about whether to fight it or just leave and let it burn. I believe it’s possible to take it all back, but is it worth the effort?

Like I said, I’m in strange point in my life. But I’ve been around the block some and hope to help some others while figuring out the next chapter for myself.

So much for the simple introduction…

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Welcome brother!

Beers are in the cooler.

calypso wrote:

This is something I’ve been pondering for some time.

It reminds me of this scene in the movie: The Day The Earth Stood Still

calypso wrote:

I’m often torn about whether to fight it or just leave and let it burn. I believe it’s possible to take it all back, but is it worth the effort?

Very simple solution brother. Just observe it. Do not get involved in it. You will only burn yourself.

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[Anonymous 3]

Your intro is pointed, timely & spot on.I agree with everything you wrote. The signs of decline & self-destrucion ( of western society) are all around us. All you have to do is take your head out of the sand to see them. MGTOW is definitely a sign of the the times. Welcome! You appear to be very insightful concerning this time in our collective history. This moment in time, if you will. It would b nice to hear more about you
( that,of course, is up to you). Again, welcome & thank you

[Anonymous 7]

Hello and Welcome.
If you find the cooler (pretty sure someone is hoarding it) sling a beer my way, wouldja?

[MGTOW_MikeParticipant 6253]

Anonymous wrote:

Hello and Welcome.
If you find the cooler (pretty sure someone is hoarding it) sling a beer my way, wouldja?

A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.

[calypsoParticipant 68]

Thanks for welcome everyone. I’ll get to one of those beers soon…

It helps to be 40+ in this day and age. Context is everything, IMO. For those of us driven to fight, I believe we fight because we understand better what it was like “before.” Not saying all of this phenomena has occurred recently, but the acceleration of the decline is definitely on steroids.

I grew up in a rural area in a two story house my father built by hand, by himself, with skills he learned from his grandfather. It’s a nice house, too. After college, I spent 22 years traveling the world with tech companies in various technical and business roles. Now I can’t stomach it anymore. I can see just how far things have fallen, so I’ve left and opted to reinvent myself. This journey is just beginning, but I’m not willing to give up quite yet on fixing the bigger scale problem. It’s possible – I know it is…

[Anonymous 7]

Mike you are now my favorite person of the day.
Well, at least top 5. :o)

[Anonymous 3]

I believe it is fixable also, but I had my turn at trying to change the world. My reward for being a truth teller was heavy doses of antipsychotic meds, mental wards, solitary confinement & I even got to wear a cozy straight jacket once.However, I wish you Good Luck & hope you do better than I did. Hope you don’t mind if this old guy chooses to sit on the sidelines.

[calypsoParticipant 68]

I completely understand – perhaps a fool’s errand. The alternative, at least the way I see it, is that we’re veering off the tracks as an increasingly accelerated pace. We’ll see it completely break before long. We’re in the final melt-up.

[Anonymous 3]

Your still young & yours eyes are open. That’s a good thing.
Things started to change for me around the age of 40, but it took a long time & a lot of work to get from there to here.
I am totally unapologetic when I say I only do things that are in my own best interests today.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Is it the decline of Western Civilization?

Well national leaders like Turdeau and Macron told their electorate that their “Western culture doesn’t exist”. And they were both elected with majority governments.

So what does that tell you???

[calypsoParticipant 68]

It tells me there are entire countries that need an ass-whipping.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Western culture doesn’t exist anymore. The present culture has as much in common with Western culture as present-day Italian culture has in common with ancient Roman culture.

The tree may still be standing but it is a dead tree, hollow and rotted on the inside. When it falls, that will merely be history acknowledging explicitly what has already happened.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[calypsoParticipant 68]

Then at a minimum, we should be ready to control the aftermath of the crash. I agree that it may not be stoppable, but what springs up from the remains of the dead tree is up for grabs.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

calypso wrote:

Then at a minimum, we should be ready to control the aftermath of the crash. I agree that it may not be stoppable, but what springs up from the remains of the dead tree is up for grabs.

I’m expecting a hockey-stick graph die-off, like the reindeer on St. Matthew’s island.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Anonymous 3]

It might, in fact, b a lot worse than anyone can imagine. I try to remain hopeful that something good will rise out of the ashes

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Anonymous wrote:

It might, in fact, b a lot worse than anyone can imagine. I try to remain hopeful that something good will rise out of the ashes

Imagine the Hunger Games, but with 7 billion people.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Anonymous 14]

As the Globalist Open Borders push continues in the West, with the exception being Israel of course, the decline will be increasing exponentially for the masses. The Elite however will keep on moving towards a breakaway civilization of unimaginable wealth, much like in the movie Elysium. The masses of sheeple are currently being expertly played against one another and therefore I see no chance of any meaningful unification that would turn the tide. We are currently at a tipping point right now as the Open Borders policies throughout the West will run it’s course and what we will be left with is a long slow descent into infighting and chaos in which respective Governments will become more and more Police State in nature…

Or as you will sometimes see me say here- “Everything going as planned, nothing to see here, move along.”

[AutoliteParticipant]

calypso wrote:

Then at a minimum, we should be ready to control the aftermath of the crash. I agree that it may not be stoppable, but what springs up from the remains of the dead tree is up for grabs.

Yeah, I’m reasonably certain that the Islamists already have a handle on that. They’ve stated as much anyway…

[Anonymous 3]

Anonymous wrote:

The Elite however will keep on moving towards a breakaway civilization of unimaginable wealth, much like in the movie Elysium.

Autolite wrote:

Yeah, I’m reasonably certain that the Islamists already have a handle on that. They’ve stated as much anyway…

yes on both accounts. here is an interesting statistic I just saw in TIME. the 85 richest people have as much wealth as the 3.5 billion poorest people. this disparity will become a physical distance much like Elysium. as far as unification goes not only do I think it is impossible it would not be a good thing to even attempt. my take at this juncture in history is be a ghost,a silent presence,alone,powerful,subtle,like a mountain overlooking a valley. And fanatical Islamists wait,not even in the shadows anymore.( thanks for video )

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