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I would like to express my condolences to you about your loss. I too lost a gal I had dated in the past to cancer as well, but I was not nearly as close as you were with yours, nor did it last as long as your relationship did. Even though I was not as heavily involved as you were, I still think about her and feel loss. I wish you peace and recovery. I know it is not pleasant to deal with. Best regards,
Ed
I am trying to understand, especially knowing some good brothers (M52 and Greg Honda) are vouching for the experience.
I know there were times, quite a few years, during my Blue pill daze that if my wife had died I would have eternally thought her to be NAWALT – the best woman that ever lived etc. But she didn’t die. She lived, got fat, cheated, lied, betrayed, stole etc. So it is a little out of my wheelhouse I suppose.
I just wonder how many guys had the “About Schmidt” experience. Mourning the loss of their unicorn and then finding the stack of letters from her long time lover in the closet.
Anyway, welcome to the forum. Not sure how we can help, but hopefully you are on the up and up and can even help us some as well.
Thanks and yes, it’s for real. As said earlier this was my experience. different from others? Sure. How much? Who knows. I just don’t why everyone is jumping on the Unicorn train. I never implied she was. We had rules, we stuck by them. the end. Nobody seems to care that I got royally f~~~ed after getting married. Just trying to say what happen to me in my life, and that I can’t take any chances going forward. I can’t take the chance for it to happen again. But it seems like f~~~ that, lets jump on this Unicorn Train instead. Give a guy a f~~~ing break.
If I find anything in the closets, you’ll be the first to know.
Don't ever get married. Find a woman you fucking HATE and buy her a house. It's cheaper and easier.
@ John Wick – You should probably at least brush up on the AWALT theory, since you don’t understand why brothers are doubtful or are wondering why you would even be here if that was your experience. Kind of like someone coming to AA and talking about the great liquor they drink, never caused them a lick of problems, never got them drunk, but they still want to join AA. All the people who had their lives ruined by their alcoholism have to sit there and listen.
It might help you understand, that your experience is… ummm…. uncommon to most of us.
I would like to express my condolences to you about your loss. I too lost a gal I had dated in the past to cancer as well, but I was not nearly as close as you were with yours, nor did it last as long as your relationship did. Even though I was not as heavily involved as you were, I still think about her and feel loss. I wish you peace and recovery. I know it is not pleasant to deal with. Best regards,
Thanks. Sorry for your loss as well. It does suck no doubt. But I know she’d be p~~~ed if I didn’t protect myself going forward. (Kinda the same as Greg Honda indicated too earlier) I’m not here because of her, I’m here because of me, but she is a contributing factor.
I’ve been with about 20 women in my life, and only two stand out. The ones I posted about. So my odds are slim at best. The one thing that woke me up was the girl from HR at the company my GF worked for. She knew everything about my GF. 401K, life ins and all. My GF left me all of it. Every penny.
She was the FIRST one to bring me food and check on me. Imagine that!
Don't ever get married. Find a woman you fucking HATE and buy her a house. It's cheaper and easier.
@ John Wick – You should probably at least brush up on the AWALT theory, since you don’t understand why brothers are doubtful or are wondering why you would even be here if that was your experience. Kind of like someone coming to AA and talking about the great liquor they drink, never caused them a lick of problems, never got them drunk, but they still want to join AA. All the people who had their lives ruined by their alcoholism have to sit there and listen.
It might help you understand, that your experience is… ummm…. uncommon to most of us.
I get all of that. I do, and I respect it. So in return, respect my position. The fact is, this was my experience in life. Good, bad or indifferent. The reason why I even chose to post here was the fact it didn’t seem cookie cutter to me. It appeared legit. I read nearly 2000 posts and they were all over the spectrum, without being questioned, bashed or criticized. I really thought I was on the right track for help, information and support. Considering I am a PAYING member and all.
So tell me, why should I pay and support this site and all of you for this kind of push back?
Don't ever get married. Find a woman you fucking HATE and buy her a house. It's cheaper and easier.
John, I am sorry to hear about your loss. You’ve been through a lot. I encourage you to stick around. I think a lot of us can learn from your story. And the red pill knowledge you’ll find here will protect you as you move forward in your life.
"Nobody loves me, but my mother, And she could be jivin` too." - B. B. King
Wick,
Many of the men here have been hurt bad by women (myself included). We have had several females come to this site and it strikes a nerve in some of us.
FWIW you did come across a bit c~~~y in response to some of the men here.BIB
"Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place.” Quote from Arthur Shopenhauer, 17th century philosopher
Dude, you gotta put a cool John Wick avatar, both movies were awesome. I hope they make part 3.
He looks how i felt after getting f~~~ed over by my Ex-wife. When the IRS was done with their equivalent of a financial enema, I looked worse than him…
Don't ever get married. Find a woman you fucking HATE and buy her a house. It's cheaper and easier.
Wick,
Many of the men here have been hurt bad by women (myself included). We have had several females come to this site and it strikes a nerve in some of us.
FWIW you did come across a bit c~~~y in response to some of the men here.BIB
This is not out of disrespect at all. Call it what you will, that’s fine. But when I’m being honest and straight forward, and will answer any questions one might have in regard to my post, then ask. I will answer. To those that what to “verify” I’m real through derailing and hijacking the thread, one must ask the question. Who is really being “C~~~y” in all this?
I thought we were here to help each other. If you have a question(s) about my alleged “Unicorn” (named by you, not me, VERY IMPORTANT) then f~~~ing ask instead of making accusations upon me that are unfounded.
Don't ever get married. Find a woman you fucking HATE and buy her a house. It's cheaper and easier.
John, I am sorry to hear about your loss. You’ve been through a lot. I encourage you to stick around. I think a lot of us can learn from your story. And the red pill knowledge you’ll find here will protect you as you move forward in your life.
Thanks you. And yes, I’ll stay here fight my way through this s~~~. If anyone knows, it’s Al Bundy. (love the avatar) he’s the best. Sincerely, I mean that. NO MA’AM were the days. Loved watching those meetings in the garage..
Don't ever get married. Find a woman you fucking HATE and buy her a house. It's cheaper and easier.
JW,
Your Introduction is very interesting. Your writing is excellent and you have a fine way of expressing ideas about what has happened in your life.
What happened in your first marriage is quite understandable to most of us, especially myself.
And there are some MGTOWs who have suffered the loss of loved ones to cancer.
The good relationship you had with your woman who recently died is a positive tribute to your intelligence and your ability to learn from your mistakes.
However, there are some aspects of your Introduction which are a little problematic.
……..Kind of like someone coming to AA and talking about the great liquor they drink, never caused them a lick of problems, never got them drunk, but they still want to join AA. All the people who had their lives ruined by their alcoholism have to sit there and listen……
Agreed.
There are characteristics of Woman’s Nature like “Narcissism” which hijacks and ruins the life of most men. I have come to believe that these aspects are originally biologically driven which were necessary for the survival of the species.
Even though those biological necessities have been driven out of whack and Western Civilization is being destroyed, Woman’s Nature is timeless.
Western Man has forgotten about Women’s more advanced abilities to Manipulate, hide the truth, and flat out lie.
Women’s advanced manipulation abilities combined with their “Pandora’s Box” of Woman’s Nature already gave them too much power well before they took the right to vote.
I have come to believe that there were never any NAWALTs also described as “Unicorns.”
The Old Times had many restrictions on woman’s Nature which made Blue Pill Life barely tolerable.An honest investigation of the “Good Old Days” will reveal a Fool’s Paradise and the birthplace of the belief in “Unicorns” or NAWALTs.
The best we can hope for now is a “White Tiger” which ultimately ends up in a mauling like the Siegfried and Roy situation.
The real “Unicorns” are natural born MGTOWs who have had a lifetime free of the influences of Womyn and their Blue Pill Slaves. Those men who are truly free have magical lives, accomplish great things, and bless the lives of anyone who knows them.
Here is a suggestion about your Introduction:
In the reply box below, kindly provide more details about what you are doing with YOUR life these days.
What is YOUR work situation like?
What kind of fun things do YOU do?
How are you spending YOUR free time?
Any plans for YOUR future?
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
Good intro,
Enjoyed reading (if that’s the right phrase), I am here for similar reasons. Wife, Unicorn, died of Brain tumour at 47. We had struggled financially for 8 years and were just about to move into a good phase of life that we could both enjoy and she was struck down, (all in my intro).
I too compare what is out there today dating wise and am sickened by the gold digging shallow baby momas who want a new sucker for their messed up lives. I didn’t struggle and save with my wife for years to blow the rewards on someone she would despise.
Hence I have given up on dating or commitment to a woman in my age range ever again. MGTOW helps with this decision and makes it easy to see the underlying motives of damsels in distress who ocaisionally hit on me.
The Anti Feminist aspect of this philosophy is also appealing as I was put through the emotional ringer for over a decade by a previous feminist girlfriend.
On the positive side, it makes life less stressful not trying to live up to society’s false expectations and the money I save gives me a humble but comfortable life.
I understand your viewpoint, share your loss, and welcome you to this forum.
Greg Honda.
I certainly appreciate the understanding. It means a great deal. I’m stuck between moving on without her, but just as important I don’t want to get involved with anyone else. Many of her friends that wouldn’t even talk to me before seem to be flocking around me.
They remind me of the vultures you see in the movies. Some of them are much younger than I, and very attractive physically. But mentally, they’re f~~~ed. I could get laid at anytime, but know I shouldn’t do it. But the little head tries to out think the big one. So far I’ve been good.
I have no house payment now. (thanks to her Ins) I make about 100k annually, I’m alone and I am deathly afraid of letting someone in on this life that is now just mine. I’m a target and know it mentally, but physically, I don’t want to slip and get caught up in trying to make another person happy with my bank account. Sounds weak I know, but I need to occupy myself in different ways. Just not sure how to do it.
Don't ever get married. Find a woman you fucking HATE and buy her a house. It's cheaper and easier.
JW,
Your Introduction is very interesting. Your writing is excellent and you have a fine way of expressing ideas about what has happened in your life.
What happened in your first marriage is quite understandable to most of us, especially myself.
And there are some MGTOWs who have suffered the loss of loved ones to cancer.
The good relationship you had with your woman who recently died is a positive tribute to your intelligence and your ability to learn from your mistakes.
However, there are some aspects of your Introduction which are a little problematic.
……..Kind of like someone coming to AA and talking about the great liquor they drink, never caused them a lick of problems, never got them drunk, but they still want to join AA. All the people who had their lives ruined by their alcoholism have to sit there and listen……
Agreed.
There are characteristics of Woman’s Nature like “Narcissism” which hijacks and ruins the life of most men. I have come to believe that these aspects are originally biologically driven which were necessary for the survival of the species.
Even though those biological necessities have been driven out of whack and Western Civilization is being destroyed, Woman’s Nature is timeless.
Western Man has forgotten about Women’s more advanced abilities to Manipulate, hide the truth, and flat out lie.
Women’s advanced manipulation abilities combined with their “Pandora’s Box” of Woman’s Nature already gave them too much power well before they took the right to vote.
I have come to believe that there were never any NAWALTs also described as “Unicorns.”
The Old Times had many restrictions on woman’s Nature which made Blue Pill Life barely tolerable.An honest investigation of the “Good Old Days” will reveal a Fool’s Paradise and the birthplace of the belief in “Unicorns” or NAWALTs.
The best we can hope for now is a “White Tiger” which ultimately ends up in a mauling like the Siegfried and Roy situation.
The real “Unicorns” are natural born MGTOWs who have had a lifetime free of the influences of Womyn and their Blue Pill Slaves. Those men who are truly free have magical lives, accomplish great things, and bless the lives of anyone who knows them.
Here is a suggestion about your Introduction:
In the reply box below, kindly provide more details about what you are doing with YOUR life these days.
What is YOUR work situation like?
What kind of fun things do YOU do?
How are you spending YOUR free time?
Any plans for YOUR future?
I fully understand some apprehension in my post. Keep in mind this is my experience and a real life story. She was with me from age 26 though 44. If she lived longer would things have changed? Who knows, that would be pure speculation. I don’t have a Crystal Ball. What I do have are facts of what actually happened with us. Nothing more.
As noted earlier, I’d be more than willing to answer any specific questions in regard to our relationship or why I think it worked so well. I don’t do well with accusatory statements disguised as questions. Ask and I will tell.
Here are brief answers to the questions you have.
1. My work situation is going well. I work in the Energy Sector (Natural Gas) and I’m fortunate enough to have a very good relationship with Sr. Management. They’re now and have been very supportive and are giving me the space I need to deal with this. If I’m having a difficult day and just head out for a ride or go home, they get it and don’t question it.
2. I take my ’15 Shelby Super Snake Mustang out and burn through all six gears. I don’t do it in front of anyone to impress them, and I let know one ride with me. I bought this car for my pleasure only. I love fast cars and HP. I have a place where I can go to beat the s~~~ of this thing without interference. The adrenalin rush is priceless. (reminds me the John Wick movie when he takes his mustang to the airport and beats the f~~~ out of it) Same deal, just not an airport, and no cops to f~~~ with me.
3. I am into building and selling drones for fun. (UAV) I have five of them. Some weigh 5 pounds, some 19 pounds with a 2 mile range flown by VR goggles or FPV as its called.
4. This is where I’m STUCK…….. and need help.
Don't ever get married. Find a woman you fucking HATE and buy her a house. It's cheaper and easier.
Anonymous0Stick around, John Wick
Only those guys that have been through the loss of a spouse can understand the issues faced on that first day when you wake up without her and have to dispose of her stuff then the first week, month, year. On the first day I was paralyzed. Didn’t answer the phone, didn’t eat, didn’t talk, didn’t shower. You get the idea. You just live one minute to one hour to one day.What you are experiencing is called “the year of firsts”
The first weekend without her, first Thanksgiving, first Christmas. My advice – take the time and remember what you two did on those days. Rage about it, punch the walls, cry, whatever you have to do AND THEN let it go and ask yourself “What am I going to do next (insert special occasion?)Hope this helps.
As for the guys here…Well we have all been hurt, some more than others and this site is patrolled by feminazi c~~~s that want to hurt us even more. You are welcome here.Stick around, John Wick
Only those guys that have been through the loss of a spouse can understand the issues faced on that first day when you wake up without her and have to dispose of her stuff then the first week, month, year. On the first day I was paralyzed. Didn’t answer the phone, didn’t eat, didn’t talk, didn’t shower. You get the idea. You just live one minute to one hour to one day.What you are experiencing is called “the year of firsts”
The first weekend without her, first Thanksgiving, first Christmas. My advice – take the time and remember what you two did on those days. Rage about it, punch the walls, cry, whatever you have to do AND THEN let it go and ask yourself “What am I going to do next (insert special occasion?)Hope this helps.
As for the guys here…Well we have all been hurt, some more than others and this site is patrolled by feminazi c~~~s that want to hurt us even more. You are welcome here.It’s like you know me. Been there and done that. But I need to move forward, you know? The triggers that remind me of her are everywhere. These are good feeling triggers by the way. I’m a very sociable person though. Now I feel like I have to become a recluse just to avoid females that were never a part of our life to begin with. I still want to be outgoing, but don’t want to deal with the bulls~~~ that comes with it. I’m not so sure that my Mustang can sustain that kind of continued punishment.
Don't ever get married. Find a woman you fucking HATE and buy her a house. It's cheaper and easier.
Stick around, John Wick
Only those guys that have been through the loss of a spouse can understand the issues faced on that first day when you wake up without her and have to dispose of her stuff then the first week, month, year. On the first day I was paralyzed. Didn’t answer the phone, didn’t eat, didn’t talk, didn’t shower. You get the idea. You just live one minute to one hour to one day.What you are experiencing is called “the year of firsts”
The first weekend without her, first Thanksgiving, first Christmas. My advice – take the time and remember what you two did on those days. Rage about it, punch the walls, cry, whatever you have to do AND THEN let it go and ask yourself “What am I going to do next (insert special occasion?)Hope this helps.
As for the guys here…Well we have all been hurt, some more than others and this site is patrolled by feminazi c~~~s that want to hurt us even more. You are welcome here.Just a side note M52. It appears, and from your Sig you are a Veteran. If I’m correct, thank you for your service. My Dad was in the Marine Corp for 34 years, Retired E-9 Sgt. Major. May he rest in peace.
Don't ever get married. Find a woman you fucking HATE and buy her a house. It's cheaper and easier.
Anonymous1Great intro, Wick. We appreciate that. Try to just tune out the negative and suspicious comments. You’re the one who understand yourself and know that you’re sincere. Pay no attention to those that question it. Fun fact: I was accused of being a female when I first posted here lol.
Very sorry for your loss.
We both understood that we were not put on this earth to make others or each other happy. We were put here to make ourselves happy.
This resonates greatly with me. Thank you for saying it.
There are some inspiring benefits to being alone that I never thought about before until I came here, and that’s what I’m most interested in at this point.
Same thing that attracted me to mgtow. So, welcome man. Looking forward for your next writings.
Great intro, Wick. We appreciate that. Try to just tune out the negative and suspicious comments. You’re the one who understand yourself and know that you’re sincere. Pay no attention to those that question it. Fun fact: I was accused of being a female when I first posted here lol.
Very sorry for your loss.
We both understood that we were not put on this earth to make others or each other happy. We were put here to make ourselves happy.
This resonates greatly with me. Thank you for saying it.
There are some inspiring benefits to being alone that I never thought about before until I came here, and that’s what I’m most interested in at this point.
Same thing that attracted me to mgtow. So, welcome man. Looking forward for your next writings.
Yer that was me hey bro . But we are all cool now . Wikudro ya cool bro with a good heart man .
Op just the way s~~~ rolls here because we get arseholes come threw just to f~~~ with us . One dude joined with a sob story and said he was going to shoot himself in the woods . Or some f~~~ers start with a sob story then next minute you see a thread about disciplining woman with violrnce and s~~~ . Wich can tarnish this great place that saves lives and helps some bro’s that might be really f~~~ed up . Those trolls unfortunately make it hard for bro’s that have just joined . The vetting i guess keeps the sight safe and clean . I my self got called tuna once and so have other bro’s . You will realize your self in time why it can be rough signing up with ya first intro . But all the guys on here are really good men . My mum died of cancer when i was ten and slowly . F~~~ed up she sas for two years in bed . Wouldn’t give up .
Think back op to when you were a kid ….seems like yesterday hey … time is an illusion and passes fast and wony be long and you will be with her again before you know it …
Dude tower is a top bloke bro . If ya stick around you will understand more and will call someone tuna ya self one day .
Ok bro’s lets toss the pool cues aside bro’s .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Great intro, Wick. We appreciate that. Try to just tune out the negative and suspicious comments. You’re the one who understand yourself and know that you’re sincere. Pay no attention to those that question it. Fun fact: I was accused of being a female when I first posted here lol.
Very sorry for your loss.
We both understood that we were not put on this earth to make others or each other happy. We were put here to make ourselves happy.
This resonates greatly with me. Thank you for saying it.
There are some inspiring benefits to being alone that I never thought about before until I came here, and that’s what I’m most interested in at this point.
Same thing that attracted me to mgtow. So, welcome man. Looking forward for your next writings.
Thanks… I was hoping someone would actually read and try to understand that point. Somehow they missed it and jumped on the Unicorn Train.
You did it. You get it. You got it. It removes the entire “Unicorn” bulls~~~ theory because that’s not what this is about. People are not born round and die square. They are who they are. Like I said, I got lucky my second time around, and so didn’t she.
So does that make me a Unicorn? No, it doesn’t. We both lucked out on this one. That’s it. How we did it was different than any other relationship she or I had before. It was tough, but we did it. Example, (we have separate checking, savings and loans accounts (No Joint financing) I spent 60K on a Super Snake. Her response was “I would never spend that kind of money on a car.”
And then said “It’s a good thing we aren’t married.” jokingly. We laughed about s~~~ like this… And then she’d be the first one to tell me she was happy for me and my (personal) achievement in getting the car.
I was making myself happy getting the car. She was happy not being on the hook for it with me. ( She was here to make herself happy – she did. I was here to make myself happy – I did. It just worked well for us.
Thanks for pointing that little line out to others.
I’m starting to like this place…..
Don't ever get married. Find a woman you fucking HATE and buy her a house. It's cheaper and easier.
Great intro, Wick. We appreciate that. Try to just tune out the negative and suspicious comments. You’re the one who understand yourself and know that you’re sincere. Pay no attention to those that question it. Fun fact: I was accused of being a female when I first posted here lol.
Very sorry for your loss.
We both understood that we were not put on this earth to make others or each other happy. We were put here to make ourselves happy.
This resonates greatly with me. Thank you for saying it.
There are some inspiring benefits to being alone that I never thought about before until I came here, and that’s what I’m most interested in at this point.
Same thing that attracted me to mgtow. So, welcome man. Looking forward for your next writings.
Yer that was me hey bro . But we are all cool now . Wikudro ya cool bro with a good heart man .
Op just the way s~~~ rolls here because we get arseholes come threw just to f~~~ with us . One dude joined with a sob story and said he was going to shoot himself in the woods . Or some f~~~ers start with a sob story then next minute you see a thread about disciplining woman with violrnce and s~~~ . Wich can tarnish this great place that saves lives and helps some bro’s that might be really f~~~ed up . Those trolls unfortunately make it hard for bro’s that have just joined . The vetting i guess keeps the sight safe and clean . I my self got called tuna once and so have other bro’s . You will realize your self in time why it can be rough signing up with ya first intro . But all the guys on here are really good men . My mum died of cancer when i was ten and slowly . F~~~ed up she sas for two years in bed . Wouldn’t give up .
Think back op to when you were a kid ….seems like yesterday hey … time is an illusion and passes fast and wony be long and you will be with her again before you know it …
Dude tower is a top bloke bro . If ya stick around you will understand more and will call someone tuna ya self one day .
Ok bro’s lets toss the pool cues aside bro’s .
One thing I am is a good pool player – 9-Ball. Thanks for the support. And for the record, I don’t pay MGTOW a monthly fee to intro myself. I do it for support, and because my situation is real, and that’s it’s important to me.
Don't ever get married. Find a woman you fucking HATE and buy her a house. It's cheaper and easier.
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