I am abandoning marriage and kids. People are now calling me cheap and selfish

[DoinMyOwnThing40Participant 1000]

Who cares what “they” say? You are totally doing the right thing. Never back down from your beliefs, brother! Oh, and never apologize for them either.

Women are parasites. Each and every last one of them.

[experiencedParticipant]

Erik718 said,  “little woman wants a divorce out of the blue.”  You’re the last to know. Witch has been furiously planning this for weeks, months, longer. The starting gun goes off, you look, and she’s given herself a ten mile lead.  This is a situation that guys have to be forewarned of. At first it is BEYOND any physiological experience you can imagine. Like having every molecule of air knocked out of you and you must inhale and the room is completely aflame. How many guys aren’t lurking, but studying this site anonymously, because of what happens next.

 

While a man comes to grips with the unfathomable depth to which she has lied, stolen, shredded ties to her offspring etc, he must prepare…….thoroughly to do his utmost to destroy her in court BEFORE she destroys him. We MGTOW have to forewarn guys of this, We have to catch them as they are falling. We have to be there for them because NO ONE ELSE IS, it is our duty. How many f~~~ing lives will these bitches destroy?  As many as we allow.

Perhaps man’s best insurance if it’s too late and you’re married, start putting some unknown cash aside NOW. because when you have to fight the fight of your life, you don’t want to be up against the ropes for survival money and attorney money. You can bet, ANY known resources will be stripped by her immediately… any and all.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[FangParticipant 102]

@nedlah: Good post. To be completely honest, I’m envious. If I could start all over again I would do things your way.

I’m 55 and grew up in a time when men were expected to finish high school, serve in the military, and then find a job. The expected goal was to find a wife which would lead to a house with a white picket fence, car in the driveway, 2.4 children, and one each dog and and cat. I was force fed that bulls~~~ by my parents who couldn’t see the irony of it all. They were always broke and always at each other’s throats. They had far more children  than they could afford which meant poverty for all of us instead of having one or two children who would of at least had a chance. So I resisted their f~~~ed up world for as long as I could. They literally drove me to the point where I had to make a decision: do things their way or become completely estranged from my whole family. So I got married, got a good job in public safety, and toed the line that society had etched for me in the sand.

Three wives later and you know what? I’m going to die alone anyway and in poverty. I don’t blame anyone else for my situation…I was actually foolish enough to think I could please my overbearing drunken father and spendthrift mother. I made a bad decision and I have to face the consequences. As I said to start this comment, I would do things different if I could go back in time. I should have given my parents the middle finger and walked out of the door never to return. Although it’s none of my business I encourage you strongly to “go your own way.” It’s too late for me to find redemption but you’re already on the right track. STAY ON IT!

[Terminus EstParticipant 145]

The reason that men uninterested in marriage and MGTOW receive such an unusually strong response from society is that our gynocentric culture is based on the female frame.

The female frame stipulates that in order for society to function, men have to be ready, willing and available to provide, fix, protect etc.
Despite all the feminist “we don’t need men” fantasy,women cannot fulfill their frame unless a man is available to do the heavy lifting.

This idea is so central and deep rooted to human existence that the mere utterance of a man simply opting out gets such a visceral response.
It’s roughly equal to a soldier simply telling his generals that he won’t be going back to the trenches anymore. There can be no generals without soldiers manning the trenches. Society is equally put off when women declare with all assurance that they really want no kids. It weirds people out on a very reptilian brain level.

Good for you. I’m in the same boat. Never married, no debt, no child support and I get the same responses from people all the time.

Oh btw, I’ve worked as a nurse in a long term care for the elderly and I can assure you that most people die alone anyway, even the married ones. By this point the wives are (if they are) on hand more to handle the business of dealing with your stuff and rarely show the Hollywood drama we see on TV, so you’re not really missing much anyway.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

For anyone who says that marriage is THE way to end up not being selfish, I give you this video I saw on YouTube, about the Theology of Singleness.  It is a whole lot easier to end up being selfish in marriage, than being single:

Ignore anything in the video you don’t agree with.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[glargineParticipant 13]

I had something similar happen during a recent conversation with my mother.

Mother: “…well when you get married…”

Me: “Well I won’t be married because I don’t want to be married.”

Mother: “You never know…”

Me: “Trust me, I know…and what I know is that I don’t want to be married.”

Mother: “But don’t you want to be able to continue the family name by getting married and having kids? I would like to have grandchildren.”

Me: “So what you’re telling me is that this is all about what is best for you instead of what is best for me?”

To me, selfishness involves putting one’s own interests above another’s at the expense of another’s interests (eg: an ex-wife denying an otherwise non-violent, non-criminal ex-husband the right to see their children). A single man that doesn’t want to get married and have children despite a mother or anyone else who says that they should (either because they want grandchildren or because society’s “blueprint for life” says so) is not being selfish because there isn’t any legitimate person/group on the direct receiving end who is getting the shaft in exchange for the man’s “gain” (the man’s mother doesn’t count since the only two entities that matter in the “having children” issue is the man and his significant other….but since there isn’t a significant other, then nobody gets hurt).

Just my two cents.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Good way to continue a family name: Get a bunch of money and donate it to a college or something else, and have them name a facility after you.  You can also adopt.  Some people think rearranging DNA multiple times, over multiple generations, with the same label on it, counts as a legacy.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

glargine wrote:

I had something similar happen during a recent conversation with my mother. Mother: “…well when you get married…” Me: “Well I won’t be married because I don’t want to be married.” Mother: “You never know…” Me: “Trust me, I know…and what I know is that I don’t want to be married.” Mother: “But don’t you want to be able to continue the family name by getting married and having kids? I would like to have grandchildren.” Me: “So what you’re telling me is that this is all about what is best for you instead of what is best for me?”

Haha my mom stopped asking me this s~~~ when I said I want kids but after watching how poorly she has treated my father over the years I’m not sure if kids are worth having to put up with the same woman for a minimum of 18 years.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Anyone who says that living your life on your own terms is selfish can go f~~~ themselves. What business is it of theirs what you do with your life? THEY are the ones who are selfish by trying to dictate what you should do because THEY are only thinking of how it will effect themselves.

For example, who cares if your parents want grand kids? Why should you be pressured into having kids so they get to play grandpa and grandma? F~~~ em’. Most of our parents want to rule our lives from day one and put us on that soul destroying road to being a good, compliant, flag saluting consumer slave.

Besides, why would anyone even consider having kids unless they were 100% committed to raising them and fully aware of what that really entails. There are millions and millions of children out there who were conceived without the parents taking any precautions. A lot of those kids have losers for parents who are selfish because they didn’t want to have a kid and it’s “ruining” their life.

It takes a real man to know that he would not be completely committed to raising his child and thus decides to not have kids. It’s being responsible and actually giving a damn about kids.

Never cared much for Lennon but this song says it all.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

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