I am abandoning marriage and kids. People are now calling me cheap and selfish

[Anonymous 42]

20mt. Truth Bomb Detonating: let them “near” your life and see who’s f~~~ed!

[TheBardParticipant 974]

Anonymous wrote:

@Bard, why should you be made into some kind of villain because you refuse to bob for terds in a barrel of s~~~?

Because someone has to be the bad guy and easier for people to make the villain people like us with the new life style. Doesn’t bother me though lol.

[RoyDalParticipant]

nedlah wrote:

Sometimes I believe people get mad because they are jealous that I have worked hard and thus able to live a debt free life without much stress or nagging. It makes me sad that people cannot accept me when they should be applauding the fact that I am 100% in control of my own life.

It is human nature to say, “you can’t do that,” to anyone who does not make the same choices they do. Go your own way! Don’t bother explaining. It is a waste of your valuable time trying to convince them you have the right to live your own life the way you chose to.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[HimeoParticipant 471]

You’ll die alone!

You mean, you want me to die in some horrible accident with other people? Like 9/11 or a train accident? What the f~~~ is WRONG with YOU?

[Anonymous 42]

Himeo wrote:

You’ll die alone!

You mean, you want me to die in some horrible accident with other people? Like 9/11 or a train accident? What the f~~~ is WRONG with YOU?

@himeo, I think that was meant; You’ll die alone “anyway”.  Maybe I could be wrong?

[John DoeParticipant 743]

I cannot relate because I am younger than you, however one thing I realized is that their is no pleasing people no matter what you do.  Even if you do please people your life is not going to get any easier.

Either you “work hard” to please people and are miserable or you don’t “work hard” to please people and they seek for you to be miserable.  There is no win/win.

At one point I asked myself the question why exactly do I need people’s approval?  What right do they have to pass judgment on me?  They are not all seeing or all knowing so their compliments are just as worthless as their insults.

The problem about “people’s praise” that many forget about is that the praise is just as meaningless as the insults.  If anything to praise another is to praise oneself by acknowledging an interconnected subjective good.  Take for example:  “Your success is my success because we share similar qualities.”

So with that being said,  the problem is not just that you dislike disapproval it is also that you value their approval.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

Pay no attention to them. They only seek to drag you down to be miserable with them. Cover your 6. F~~~ everybody else.

Fuck this planet.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

nedlah wrote:

Some even say that I will die alone as a lonely rich man.

BWAHAHA! Classic female projection. That is their greatest fear, not ours.

Don’t know how old you are. I’ll be 43 in May. What should I do? Stay single, take naps whenever I want?, stop and get a burger and a beer when I want?, continue to play hockey and spend whatever I wish on gear?, continue to rebuild my collection of Star Wars and G.I. Joe?, etc.

Or should I look to get married a second time and go through the horrors of divorce again? Or stay married, get put in a home while she’s still nagging as I wait for death to mercifully take me?

You’ll find my skeleton in my Lazy Boy with a video game controller in my bony fingers.

Fuck this planet.

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

Yeah…being single means that I am CHEAP and SELFISH.

Signing a legal contract with a woman you can barely tolerate, injecting your sperm inside of her so she can get pregnant while in the meantime, she spends YOUR money and HER debt gets added to YOUR credit score, and once you have children that you love and work extra hard to support, they are soon taken away from you once the little woman wants a divorce out of the blue, lies are told about you to guarantee that you only see them for tiny, miniscule amounts of their lives, but you are ordered to pay the MAXIMUM amount to raise those kids while you get to miss out on them growing up. And even if you stay married, you miss out on seeing your kids grow up anyway because you’re always at work.

Yeah, I’m really f~~~ing cheap and selfish to miss out on THAT! Because whether you stay married or you get divorced, you’ll be unhappy, but we’re told to SUCK IT UP and be a MAN. Because the happiness of a WOMAN is all that counts. “Happy wife, happy life” everyone says. Hell, I even see the quote on f~~~ing billboards for jewelry advertisements when February 14th comes close.

But the fact that a man can be single and still be happy, in this case, a MILLION times happier, makes people angry. It throws out the theory that a man can only be happy/complete with a woman straight down the f~~~ing toilet and society is p~~~ed off by this. More and more women are unable to find husbands/sperm donors/walking wallets/future alimony providers, so begins the art of shaming bachelors for being bachelors because we’re not willing to take care of them and pay for the mistakes of women.

Because YOU’RE not willing to marry that single mother who’s had a thousand penises inside of her, she has to draw welfare money from the government instead of Average Joe’s paycheck, and the government is even p~~~ed off about it. But they can’t change our free agency, they can’t pass laws making it ILLEGAL to be bachelors, so what they can do is make it harder for us. Like getting fewer tax benefits, making it impossible for single men to adopt children, and implanting subliminal messages into the general population that makes them believe that being single is the worst thing you can ever be, because people will think there’s something WRONG with you.

Being selfish is not an insult. It’s a compliment. If you don’t take care of yourself and your needs, who the f~~~ else is going to do it for you?

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

dude, it’s your life those criticizing you aren’t f~~~ing you, feeding you, or financing you, so f~~~ what they think. It’s your life, live it for you.

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

Selfish and cheap?

 

In order to be successful, you have to be selfish.

-Michael Jordan-

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

nedlah wrote:

I want to share with you what is becoming more and more common in my life – people telling me I am selfish for opting to live my life without kids and marriage.

Most people these days don’t have the first clue what selfish even means. Consider this:

When someone procreates they are basically pushing them self, their genes, into the future. They are telling the world that they somehow deserve to persist in it. In other words, having a child is the single most selfish thing someone can do. But it only gets worse. They get a huge tax benefit for their ultimately selfish act. They get a giant, employer funded vacation with guaranteed rehiring just to produce their little Mini-Me. They get taxpayer funded education for their little Mini-Me. They get taxpayer funded nutritional assistance for their little Mini-Me. Depending on how financially incompetent they are they also get taxpayer funded housing, cell phones, heat, light, school breakfasts, lunches and on and on and on all to subsidize their selfish lifestyle choice of having their little Mini-Me to take their selfish genes into the future.

Meanwhile you, the responsible non-breeder, have to work a double shift covering their maternity leave. You have less of an opportunity for increased wages because your employer has the enforced unproductive expense to bankrolling maternity leave. You get to pay even higher taxes to make up for the reduction granted to the selfish breeders. So you are very literally stuck with the bills for raising their little Mini-Me.

And they have the gall to call YOU selfish?

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

@ Sidecar,
Good insights right there my friend. I’m single white male, college degree, no kids, work like a mule to get where I am. No debt and very few deductions. IRS agent lays awake in bed at night with sweaty palms just thinking about the taxes they are gonna get from me every year. There should be a rug rat named after me somewhere…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[kbbroilerParticipant 886]

Hey Ned. All I can say is welcome to the club. I’ve been hearing this s~~~ for years. Some people are weird with their arguments. Like for e.g. a guy from work tried to explain money and sacrificing. I’m like what if I don’t want to. Then he said then you’re selfish. Then I said so I’m selfish because I don’t want to pay for a kid/kids which is about $400,000 for the next 18-25 years. I said to him you know what be “unselfish”. Because at the end of the day, I’ll retire before you do. He never mentioned anything again. I also told him I don’t understand why people put a rubber stamp involving kids when they do cost you money. What are you supposed to do??? Ignore the money you’re spending. I don’t get some people logic but I’ve heard the same stuff for years. It rolls off my back now like nothing. Oh and those people who say who’s going to take care of you when you get old. There is no guarantee that your kids will take care of you. People are weird with their attempt of logic.

[nedlahParticipant 72]

Happy Easter Gentlemen!  I thank you for your replies – reading them put a smile on my face. I read every single one of them in detail and I am so happy that I found this place full of likeminded people. It’s comforting that more and more men are finally waking up and realizing how bad a proposition marriage in this modern society actually is.

 

 

[KeymasterKeymaster]

The whole “dying alone” tactic coming from women can be pulled apart in seconds, and I recommend you do it right to her face.

“Honey, women outlive their husbands by an average of 8 years. That means, even if I were to marry your sorry ass, its YOU who is more likely to “die alone”.”

A speechless woman is a thing of joy.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[experiencedParticipant]

Nedlah,  is now short for, ” ‘en Ed laughed”  in their faces, because he knew their real concern and the depth to which it terrorized them.  SHE doesn’t give a damn about you individually.   She attacks you verbally because you represent the group that is the ONLY credible threat to her scam of riding high on the hog via the slave labor force of men.     MGTOW.

Well, keep it up witch. It adds to the amusement.  The raw numbers KEEP improving in our direction.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[нσтησσвParticipant 830]

My parents were originally control freaks, all throughout my childhood through to highschool. However, i resisted because i knew they were wrong.

Eventually they came to realize that i was right, that it was not in my best interest to play the education system. Now after realizing this, seeing how i am doing so much better than my 4 year older sister who did play the education system and got a degree in geology…  they readily trust my decisions.

Both of my parents have accepted my MGTOW decision, but mind you, they recently-ish got divorced for no real reason, and ive been spewing out mgtow stuff / stuff about not getting married since i was 16-17 or so.

Point is, people can change 😛 And just cause your peers wont accept/support your decisions doesnt mean that no one will.

My Goal: To Leave Society.

[Erik718Participant 2]

mgtow_85 wrote:

Yeah…being single means that I am CHEAP and SELFISH. Signing a legal contract with a woman you can barely tolerate, injecting your sperm inside of her so she can get pregnant while in the meantime, she spends YOUR money and HER debt gets added to YOUR credit score, and once you have children that you love and work extra hard to support, they are soon taken away from you once the little woman wants a divorce out of the blue, lies are told about you to guarantee that you only see them for tiny, miniscule amounts of their lives, but you are ordered to pay the MAXIMUM amount to raise those kids while you get to miss out on them growing up. And even if you stay married, you miss out on seeing your kids grow up anyway because you’re always at work. Yeah, I’m really f~~~ing cheap and selfish to miss out on THAT! Because whether you stay married or you get divorced, you’ll be unhappy, but we’re told to SUCK IT UP and be a MAN. Because the happiness of a WOMAN is all that counts. “Happy wife, happy life” everyone says. Hell, I even see the quote on f~~~ing billboards for jewelry advertisements when February 14th comes close. But the fact that a man can be single and still be happy, in this case, a MILLION times happier, makes people angry. It throws out the theory that a man can only be happy/complete with a woman straight down the f~~~ing toilet and society is p~~~ed off by this. More and more women are unable to find husbands/sperm donors/walking wallets/future alimony providers, so begins the art of shaming bachelors for being bachelors because we’re not willing to take care of them and pay for the mistakes of women. Because YOU’RE not willing to marry that single mother who’s had a thousand penises inside of her, she has to draw welfare money from the government instead of Average Joe’s paycheck, and the government is even p~~~ed off about it. But they can’t change our free agency, they can’t pass laws making it ILLEGAL to be bachelors, so what they can do is make it harder for us. Like getting fewer tax benefits, making it impossible for single men to adopt children, and implanting subliminal messages into the general population that makes them believe that being single is the worst thing you can ever be, because people will think there’s something WRONG with you. Being selfish is not an insult. It’s a compliment. If you don’t take care of yourself and your needs, who the f~~~ else is going to do it for you?

I could not agree with you more. I happen to know a guy that got married and impregnated his wife. While he was out busting his ass to support her and the son on the way, his wife ran up a huge bill on his credit card that took years for him to pay off. If a man does that to a woman, we’re called a pimp, a womanizer, etc. So sick of the double standards.

[DanLimitlessParticipant 26]

People want you to keep going on that hamster wheel.

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