How would a MGTOW handle a bully?

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant 143]

Understand:

High School kids aren’t supposed to understand deep psychology. But I wasn’t supposed to be bullied and abused in school. Neither were you or other MGTOW brothers.

..I had reservations, but bullies deserve NO MERCY. Period. Let their end come sooner than later – it comes anyhow.

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I can give you unlimited techniques and tactics at every stage and in all situations. Ask if you need details pertaining to a nuance. e.g. I got a date. Talk to her on the phone but have no car. I am afraid for her to come to my house. Whatever. Any permutation/combination.

This is what I call ‘MIND PIRACY’. I invented the term “mind pirate” in my 20’s but didn’t think to get credit for it until about 5 years ago. The concept as we go into this is “board another man’s ship <mind>” and cause a paradigm shift.

(Yes, my name is Wayne)

First, the best part: the girl(s) – Now MGTOW don’t believe in ‘hooking up’, Romantic (Roman era, look up the etymology) or chivalrous crap. In other words, you are NOT to be a slave to a woman. Additionally, even if you think you’re in control, the constructs of society will ensure that you will not be, so don’t think you’re smarter than the ‘system’. The house always wins if you play long enough. Know this going in. Ok? Really? Loaded weapon to .. You’re about to play with fire. Dance with the devil. “Just one more..”, “Ultimate power corrupts. Ultimate power corrupts absolutely..”

. . .. . .. … . “Shall we play a game?”

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant 143]

When the wisdom of Sun Tzu’s ART of WAR is combined with Psych knowledge, most of which people haven’t connected yet, and then used in a HIGH SCHOOL setting against bullies.. <evil grin> ..

Lone Wolf: MGTOW (light side) would walk away and pursue and focus on self interest and growth. (I know it sounds lame, but know that is the LIGHT side. That is where you’ll come back to. You matter. Prioritize you.)

THIS IS THE DARK SIDE OF THE FORCE:

(Yoda: The dark side is quicker, easier.. More seductive.)

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Find your target girl. Most popular girl in school or one of the ‘mediums’ (pretty satellites) – do not choose a ‘nice’ girl or low level. If the bully has a Girlfriend, choose her if you wish to have her and destroy him.

This girl will be referred to as the ‘TARGET’.

Buy, “Advanced Quantum Mechanics” by Freeman Dyson (the one with the blue sky, road and fields (not overcast sky with field) which will also work on aspects of the subconscious.

At lunch. (if you see your target there), with a ‘book stand prop’ that holds the book open, have the COVER aimed ALMOST directly (approx 5-10 deg off) at your TARGET.

Your body should be directly aligned with the book, not the table you’re eating at. This speaks to the fact you care more about what you’re ‘reading’ than whatever else, and certainly more than what people think of you.

You’re not trying to ‘FIT IN’ bubba – that ship sailed.

Ok. With me? Day 1 your friends don’t matter. If they ask/talk to you, say “I’ll tell you after lunch.” You’re doing a few things Day 1 if it is a lunch scenario – do it right you own the WHOLE PACK (do it wrong, which I’ll explain, and you’ve not helped yourself at all, to put it lightly.. [Do or Do not. There is no try!] :

1) Eat your lunch slowly concentrating on your breathing.

2) Look over your book every 30 seconds – 1 minute at your TARGET. Checking to see if she is looking at you yet!

3) When she looks, hold her gaze for as long as you can. Tight lip smile or blush or whatever, then back in your book, mission accomplished! But Don’t look up at them again. Leave the book pointing at the target (and her satellites) knowing mission accomplished. Don’t talk to friends. Eat and pretend to read your book for the duration. DO NOT look up or peek or anything or you FAILED. In fact, if it is HARD for you, get the book, leave. Never look at target or satellites.

NOTE: You MUST be close enough so they can read the title of the book. Be a ‘MAN’ and sit 1 table away. To make things easier and less obtuse, you can ‘pre-sit’ close (to target’s lunch table) a day before with the book not aimed at the target at all, where they see you reading something. If you do this ‘PRE-SIT’ –DO NOT LOOK AT TARGET OR SATELLITES at all. THE NEXT DAY, do Step 1 (Day 1)

Days after, (remember to paginate. So don’t always be at page 150) Move 50+ pages a day as you work the target. Never look at target, though you aim the book (not as directly, now 25-30% off center of target) Have a notepad. Formulas in the book, if you see any, copy them on the pad, even though you have no clue what they mean. Always be smiling and excited as you write these formulas. People are watching, and you’re using Psych as you enact this play.

After four days the ‘play’ is over. (for effect, day 2-3-4 you can add color ‘tabs’ to the top parts of the book as if they’re placeholders)

You now own target AND all her friends (Satellites) You did get eye contact Day 1 and held it until she looked away or you did right? (doesn’t matter who did first, that’s nonsense and irrelevant, but YOU should try to hold it at least a second or more and don’t be afraid to smile and blush when you look away. Be real and natural. You’re not playing an ‘ALPHA’ game here – this is WAY beyond that.

In fact, be YOU. The only thing is, you CAN’T look at anyone but the target (ONE PERSON). Can’t look at a satellite or the next stages don’t work. When you’re PEEKING to see if target is looking so you can hold her gaze, you’ll probably see satellites looking.. Imagine they DON’T EXIST.

Do not look at them in the eyes. If Target isn’t looking and you see from your peripheral they are looking, look back into book or continue eating lunch.

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.. If your TARGET is your BULLIE’S girlfriend, with him sitting next to her, target book cover at bully and girlfriend Day 1 and eat your lunch, talk to friends, any empty moment, eyes in book. Need to be close, so girlfriend (and bully) can read the cover.

Day 2, the stare game. I know, tricky and scary. Do not fear! You look casually at Target for your 1 second eye lock. Bully is afraid and intimidated, so yes, he will probably be looking first or right when she begins to look.

Expected – Remember, all bullies are Narcs. Their Psych is Easy Peasy. When this happens, that is, you look and she does and he does, WAIT TIL SHE AT LEAST GLANCES with him looking before this move. Do not do it just because HE looks at you. Wait for HIM and HER! Then get up smiling. Walk over to him/her and say.

I just want to tell you, I respect you so much. (hold your fist up for fist bump) She is really beautiful. <This is check and mate> He looks like a baboon, to be ‘violent’ (you’re reading Quantum Mechanics, and this is a huge Validation, plus a compliment to her. He can’t ‘NOT FIST’ bump that his girl is beautiful.) *IF* he has ANY negative comment, you could say, “Sorry. I think she’s beautiful” Then walk away. He loses no matter what!

–The psych behind all this: Gender Imperative. At a young age, gender imperative is rather RAW. For men, SEX is the ultimate RESPECT/VALIDATION.

For women (girls at that age) they can only look to POTENTIAL.

For any who missed this: Money (men’s) without control is useless. The desirability of a man is (roughly, because this doesn’t take into account prestigue, which allows for monkey branching) but ROUGHLY: Money * (controllability/2)

1 Mil with 5% (/2) controllability (2.5%) = 25,000
100k with 60% controllability/2 (30%) = 30,000

Controllability matters!

In school things are flipped inversely regarding control becoming ‘possibility’ that you will get what is potentially probable.

E.g : If you’re a geek in that quantum dynamics book but you’re a SIMP, (controllable 85%) then there is only a 15% chance you’ll ever be able to do something with superior intellect.. (see how that works when dealing with POTENTIAL FUTURE INCOME?)

The book signals to her and her friends you have a super star intellect – and you don’t even have to have one 🙂

(If you being this before I finish, some notes: If someone says what do you know about…XYZ? Say, glad you asked.
(Be loud. You can’t find many people familiar with Quantum Field Theory.. Here on page.. Where was it.. Just flip through and find something interesting. Are you familiar with “Quasiparticles in condensed..” Just read a sentence with cool words.

..End of Part 1

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Quickie ‘conventional’ bully ‘mouth’ things:

Be loud. If they say something, (if you have a phone, pull it out and hold it to your chest) ask, “Sorry what? I think you said something? I don’t want to be rude..”

Bullies are actually cowards and TERRIFIED of shame.

They are shamed at home. They are afraid of exposure.

Narcissists are child’s play.

Day 1 is the whole game. You only have to do this and it is DOWN HILL as long as you don’t get ‘GREEDY’.

You can be any level of anything in school of whatever grade. If asked about classes/grades/etc, “That stuff just doesn’t interest me” is the answer.

[AttonParticipant]

Come up with some seriously mean spirited and utterly disgusting retort.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Lone WolfParticipant 205]

Those are some very articulate answers JustAnotherGuy, but I regret to inform you that I go to an all-guy school lol. But you did mention exposing them for who they are, since they are cowards who are terrified of shame. With this in mind, I was thinking of not taking anything they say with a grain of seriousness, since it seems like they are just trying to get a rise out of me for their own pleasure.

So what do you take of laughing loudly at every one of his insults, starting random conversations with some guy near me at the exact moment the bully gives me any attention, and purposely mishearing him just to get him to repeat his insult a couple times?

Now that’s verbal, as for physical….. How would I handle any slight minuscule confrontations? Examples: knocking my paper to the floor as a “joke,” shaking my desk, stretching his arms or leaning back enough in his desk to invade my privacy, kicking my backpack, nudging or bumping me, staring me down to try to intimidate me, etc. He does all of this in a jokingly manner.

Usually people don’t pay mind to these little confrontations, because he is pretending to play this “funny” angry character of his who gets angry at any little petty thing. And for me to not laugh or allow him do these little things, would make me a party pooper (which no one ever likes). My best guess is that he doesn’t feel guilty because in his mind “it’s just a joke.” It’s hard for me to tell whether he is aware of how much of an asshole he is being or not. Any ideas?

"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." - Ronald Reagan

[Lone WolfParticipant 205]

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"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." - Ronald Reagan

[Anonymous 6]

I used to play mind games with bullies when I was in school. They’d start harassing me so I’d ask for a bag of their poop my own personal use. Next time I’d ask if they would give me a sample of their blood so that I could mix it with the bull testicles I keep on the altar dedicated to them at my house. They’d stay far away after a few times of this stuff, no physical fights needed.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

Some things never change over the generations when it comes to schools. By the time I was in the 10th grade, I had gone to 11 schools in 6 states and I was a runt. Needless to say, I had more than my share of bullies. It often took two or more of the meanest guys to pick on the runt, real brave. There is no correct answer for every situation when it comes to oversized cowards.

There were times I backed down and now wish I had not. Other times, I fought and took my bruises and a couple of suspensions. The only fight I now regret was one I started because my first girlfriend wanted me to kick his ass. I was in the 4th grade and already a White Knight but perhaps it’s more forgivable at that age, I don’t know. For the sake of your reputation and integrity, you must ask: “Do I have a choice?” If you can live with taking the bulls~~~, perhaps you do but it can haunt you for a lifetime. So my vote: I would do whatever I could to beat the dog s~~~ out of him. Even if you lose, you gain respect from yourself and others. As a song goes: “Sometimes you have to fight to be a man”.

[NomadParticipant 44]

Lone Wolf wrote:

I’d like to start off saying that I am glad that I discovered this website now as a Senior in High school, rather than discovering it MMM (middle-aged, married, & miserable). This might be a little off topic, but I’m curious on how a MGTOW might handle this type of situation.

I’ve gone to a private elementary school, a private middle school, and even a private high school, so I’ve generally been surrounded with descent people all my life. But every school still has it’s fair share of assholes. This one prick goes out of his way to attempt to dehumanize me or belittle my accomplishments solely through verbal abuse. I’m not scared of the guy, but I’m wondering how a man would handle this.

Here are the consequences I know of:

I fight back.
– If I verbally insult him, it would lead to a physical fight or an immediate verbal assault from his group of friends and a roar of laughter.
– If I kick his ass, I get suspended or maybe even expelled, but I would get the pride of knowing I stood up for myself and did not back down.

I snitch on him.
– The word would quickly pass around and before I know it, him, his friends, other students, or even the class would continue with this subtle verbal abuse that no authority could pick up on.

I ignore him.
– This would give off the impression to all my friends that I am just a pushover that lets him say/do whatever he wants to me, and that I lack the strength to hold my own.
– Yes, it might just stop the bullying, but no one will have any respect for me whatsoever.

After reading countless articles on confronting bullies, I can never find a clear answer. What would an MGTOW do?

It’s best to deal with it directly. If there is a time that he’s not near his friends that would probably back him up, walk up to him, & tell him to leave you alone. If he doesn’t, fight him. Then soon word would get around that you’ll fight people who disrespect you, etc and you will have less problems. Sure you’ll be suspended, but it’s not the end of the world. Just be sure not to get enough suspensions to get expelled from the school. However; if you cannot catch him alone, approach him, ask him to leave you alone, tell him to leave you alone. If he doesn’t, then call him out in front of his friends, challenge him to a fight one on one. If he backs down in front of his friends it makes him look weak, so he will likely fight you. If you defeat him, his friends will likely leave you alone.

Life's too short to spend with promiscious women. Enjoy your passions while you still can!!

[NomadParticipant 44]

After you graduate, keep this in mind when you start working… Just be sure to workout a lot, & have a easy-going personality. Try to keep to yourself as much as possible, & don’t reveal any private information. Info that will help you in the workplace. Depending on what field you choose of course, if you don’t workout you will get picked on. There’s this scrawny kid at work, by kid I mean in his late teens/early 20s, he doesn’t workout at all, & he gets picked on a lot, don’t be this guy. If you reveal private information, people will gossip about you. The less they know about you, the better. Respect authority, & be a hard worker, & you will earn the respect of management. An easy-going personality, & being happy-go-lucky will help you get along with most people.

Life's too short to spend with promiscious women. Enjoy your passions while you still can!!

[NomadParticipant 44]

Remember, don’t go looking for fights with other people. But do defend yourself. Never be afraid of defending yourself.

Life's too short to spend with promiscious women. Enjoy your passions while you still can!!

[HermitParticipant]

So Lone Wolf, curious to know how you handled this. Any update? Been a long time since I was in high school, but there are really only two ways to deal with a dickhead. Ignore them, or earn their respect and MAKE them stop. It’s as simple as that. How you make him stop is up to you. You know this guy. You probably know what it would take. If he knocks your paper to the floor, knock something out of his hands. When he stretches his arms back to invade your space, grab them and pull them even further possibly causing him to fall to the floor. When he bumps into you, bump right back. When he stares you down, wink and smile at him and be on your way. Whenever anyone stares at me, I ask them, “Why are you looking at me like you wanna’ suck my dick?” Bully the bully. After all, it’s just in a joking manner, right?

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Keep in mind that fighting him as a senior can land you in prison, tried as an adult if the cops get involved. He would be one of those pussy bitches who presses charges after you kick his ass. You’re best off to simply ignore him. Give the impression that what he says and does mean nothing to you, as he is insignificant. You can try the trash talking routine, but that’s only useless if trash talking is your specialty.

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