How would a MGTOW handle a bully?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I attended private school too. And I LIVED there, so I know all about and understand the dynamics you outlined. Initiation there (in the 7th grade) was actual cruelty but I survived. What any SJW would call “abuse” today, I call breakfast.

Determine the probability of it escalating to violence.
If you are VERY SURE you won’t get into a physical scrap, dealing with a bully is easy.

AGREE AND AMPLIFY

“What are you a f~~?”

“Well, I could certainly be a f~~ long enough for YOU to blow me.”
(*s~~~ eating grin*)

THE TOM CRUISE

Never be irritated or furrow your brows. Flash a Tom Cruise.

If he keeps going , do it more.

“You stink”

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There is also a very effective way of holding a mirror up to a bully / manipulator if you don’t have a response ready. Ask any of these 4 questions……

“Why would you do that?”
“Why would you say that?”
“Why would you ask that?”
“Why would you think that?”

This buys you TIME to think of a better way to handle it. When you ask these question, the bully / manipulator is forced to examine WHY they are behaving that way. You’ll be amazed what is reflected back to you. Make him answer the question. Just make sure your FIRST reaction is a big grin. You can get serious if you want, but a default smile lets everyone know “you got this”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

It really depends on the situation and the person. If it’s just constant razzing and bulls~~~, then don’t worry about it. Ignore it and move on. Why the f~~~ you do you give a s~~~ what other people think of you? I’m not just talking about the ass holes and the bullies, but why do you care what ANYONE else thinks about you? Going your own way is going your own way. Being a man isn’t just standing up for yourself and knocking down everything that’s in your way. That’s just ONE option available to you. Sometimes you need to just NOT GIVE A F~~~.

On the other hand, if the situation is escalating with each passing day and each encounter, and things are starting to get physical, you need to nip it in the bud before it gets out of hand. I ignored most bullies throughout my school years and they picked on someone else. But there were a few that just wouldn’t leave me the f~~~ alone and started to get physical with me. One guy would just randomly punch my arm, stomach, whatever when we encountered each other in the hall or wherever. So after two days of that, on the third day he was standing in line behind me kicking the back of my legs rather hard. After the third kick I spun around and beat the S~~~ out of him. Got a 3 week suspension.

Another guy I tried taunting back. Well he didn’t like that very much and took a swing at me. I grabbed his fist and just squeezed (I always used those hand strengthener things when I was bored and had a pretty strong grip). The guy dropped to the floor and cried like a baby. I believe I could have broken a few of his fingers, but it wasn’t necessary. He surrendered like a wet noodle and avoided me like the plague from then on. I never got in trouble for that one because no one ever found out about it.

Basically you need the analyze the situation and the bully to come to a conclusion. If the bully isn’t getting physical, then do NOT resort to violence. Who gives a s~~~ if everyone thinks you’re a pushover? What matters is what you end up doing in your life, not what other idiots think about you.

[Lone WolfParticipant 205]

You made a good point about “not giving a f~~~” Darkryu, but as for the other thing, are you advocating that I should take as much abuse as I can before I blow up like a volcano? That doesn’t sound too healthy to me. It sounds rather passive-aggressive, bitter, and vindictive. One thing I’ve learned about what it takes to be a man, is that a man should have the ability to speak his mind and confront his problems before they get out of hand. Please don’t get defensive and try to write me off as a kid who doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I’m not taking a shot at your intelligence.

"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." - Ronald Reagan

[experiencedParticipant]

Don’t quote me on this:

Kick his knee out.

Hard.

Permanently crippling hard.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

Lone Wolf wrote:

You made a good point about “not giving a f~~~” Darkryu, but as for the other thing, are you advocating that I should take as much abuse as I can before I blow up like a volcano? That doesn’t sound too healthy to me. It sounds rather passive-aggressive, bitter, and vindictive. One thing I’ve learned about what it takes to be a man, is that a man should have the ability to speak his mind and confront his problems before they get out of hand. Please don’t get defensive and try to write me off as a kid who doesn’t know what he’s talking about. I’m not taking a shot at your intelligence.

If somebody just saying s~~~ to you is going to make you blow up like a volcano, then you’ve got to learn to chill and not give a s~~~ about what other people say and do, or what other people think about you. Like I said, unless HE is getting physical, then a physical response is NOT justified. If you can’t resist socking someone in the face because they’re taunting you, then you’ve got anger problems. My responses were a direct response to their getting physical with me. I’m not going to let someone beat me up or physically abuse me, but if they want to act like a jackass and taunt me, what the f~~~ do I care? They’re a stupid f~~~ing jackass. I don’t care about stupid f~~~ing jackasses and neither should you.

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

In grade 7 or 8 three kids tried to bully me by throwing rocks during night time at camp.

So I picked up a large stick, and smash one of the kids skull, then I proceed to punch him in the stomach. The guy had to leave camp, and go to the hospital.

After going into high school. No one wanted to pick a fight with me ever again.

Basically you got to be someone that cannot be picked on without repercussions.

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I like punching bullies. Especially in the nose

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[RennieParticipant]

Usually just ignore them completely. I have walked away from situations where people were taunting me and without even looking back. As long as they don’t cross the line into the physical. Then something will have to be done.

coolthingy450 wrote:

In grade 7 or 8 three kids tried to bully me by throwing rocks during night time at camp.

In grade 7, or 8 I had one fat kid throwing rocks at me outside. None of them hit me, but it was dangerous to be outside with that going on. Well he thought I didn’t know who he was. Well you can imagine his surprise when he was summoned to the schools office for a meeting with me and the vice principal.

I didn’t ask for them to punish him. Just that kind of stuff stops. He never did it again. Actually he turned out to be an alright guy after he got sorted out.

[SolidusXParticipant 854]

I come from the school of hard knocks and back when I was in highschool which was well over a decade ago we solved things with a fist and then when it was over and had a beer after. But in this day in age filled with triggers and safe spaces you have to do things a little differently. Here is how I would go about it based off of your options listed.

Lone Wolf wrote:

I fight back.
– If I verbally insult him, it would lead to a physical fight or an immediate verbal assault from his group of friends and a roar of laughter.
– If I kick his ass, I get suspended or maybe even expelled, but I would get the pride of knowing I stood up for myself and did not back down.

If he is mouthing you off just mouth him off back, call him a little pussy, or something about his mom or whatever then ignore him… words are just words and mean nothing… just make sure what you are saying will make people laugh at him and not you. If it comes to an altercation let him make the first strike as now it becomes self defense on your part. I personally would get right up into his face looking crazy like I would eat his heart and say “First shot is free mother f~~~er”. Usually a bully will back down and laugh it off and walk away but it shows that they were the ones that they were scared of you. If the bully goes for the shot then it’s game on, I never fight fair I will pull hair, grab the b~~~~, poke the eyes etc etc… Do whatever it takes, barring shooting the prick, to take him to the ground and when there feed him some more shots so he gets the point. Yeah you may get a slap on the wrist from the school but f~~~ em you stood up for yourself and chicks will be all over you… not that you would want them lol.

Now if things still escalate with this bully and the school is useless to do anything about it or you fear getting expelled for fighting then you need to go Stealth. So what this means is you have to teach this bully a lesson outside of school and away from others so there is no witnesses or at least no school witnesses. I had a bully in school who not only verbally abused me but also beat my ass as well… the blue pill school, pussy parents, and even the police did nothing to help me so I had to take matters into my own hands. Simply put I knew the route he took home from school which took him through some thick woods so I waited for him there with a baseball batt. Needless to say I made sure he learned his lesson and to keep far clear of me, this may sound shady and illegal but it’s how things got done. I would only recommend this as a last resort.

Lone Wolf wrote:

I snitch on him.
– The word would quickly pass around and before I know it, him, his friends, other students, or even the class would continue with this subtle verbal abuse that no authority could pick up on.

Snitches get stitches and end up in ditches…. nuff said.

Lone Wolf wrote:

I ignore him.
– This would give off the impression to all my friends that I am just a pushover that lets him say/do whatever he wants to me, and that I lack the strength to hold my own.
– Yes, it might just stop the bullying, but no one will have any respect for me whatsoever.

Ignoring from the get go will only make the bully think you are an easier target and increase the bullying. Bullies only understand violence and sometimes it’s necessary to use it.

Knowledge is power..... Don't waste your brain on bullshit

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Here we go!

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[General RipperParticipant 101]

Since you’re a senior and about to get out of high school, my initial suggestion would be to suck it up and drive on. High school is but a blip on a man’s life radar, this crap will pass and seem so trivial in your later years. The best revenge is living well. The stereotype of the unpopular nerd/geek/dork excelling the performance of his once antagonistic childhood tormenters exists because it is real. These troglodytes and meatheads get theirs in the end.

Now, if you simply cannot let it slide anymore, I have some good news, bad news, and investment advice for you.

First, the bad news. Welcome to the 21st century, where boys aren’t allowed to be boys, and classroom discipline is now doled out by the police state. Don’t believe me? I bet you have a “School Resource Officer”, don’t you. Officer friendly is there to make sure you know how to properly comply with the police when you enter out into the real world. Zero tolerance (zero thought) violence policies encourage this as well. You will be told and taught that you are not supposed to, or allowed to, defend yourself. If you do, and you put him down for good, you will be labeled as the aggressor, no matter if he threw the first punch in front of a dozen witnesses.

So before you even think about it, you need to know your rights. You probably weren’t even taught about your rights in your government or social studies class (a damn crime if you ask me), or if you were, it was dumb downed and glossed over. Time to fix that. The Police and You, by Boston T. Party, and You Have the Right to Remain Innocent, by James Duane. James Duane is also known for his viral legal video on YouTube.
Don’t Talk to the Police

Now that you’ve absorbed all that, here comes the good news. Now you know how to interact with law enforcement (by never speaking to them). I’m betting your parents also have an attorney on retainer. If so, ask them for his contact information. If they ask why, it’s simple to explain that you are young, so if “do something foolish” down the road before you move out of the house, you will have a chance to go into the world without a record. If they don’t, you have one of two choices: Invest in one yourself (if you have the money), or they get one for you at a later date (because you did something “foolish”).

Because you’re going to need him. Let me inject my personal opinion in this matter, by saying that I don’t believe for one f~~~ing second that any man has the right to lay a hand on you, unless you’ve done something to REALLY deserve it (insert REAL crime here, assault, robbery, murder, ect.) So when this assclown comes around and thinks he’s going to physically push you around and have his way with you, you’re going to put him down hard. You’re going to put him down in front of his peers. And you’re going to make sure he never forgets it. Because that’s the only language that people like that understand and respect, the language of dominance.

Now comes the suck. You’re going to get hauled into the school office. You’re most likely going to get arrested and/or charged with battery. This experience sucks. But you’re going to shut your mouth, and not say or explain a word of your actions to the police or the school staff. IF YOU FEEL COMPLELLED TO SAY SOMETHING, The only thing out of your mouth should be, “Sir, I would be more than happy to answer your questions, but not until my lawyer is present.” Also, if you’re a minor, there may be additional restrictions on the police of how they may handle you without your parents present, but don’t count on it. Unlike the police, the school staff are not bound by law to discontinue questioning once you have asked for legal representation, so SHUT YOUR MOUTH if they continue to ask questions.

I am a former MP and state corrections officer. I can’t state enough that people dig their own graves with their mouths, because they won’t shut up. I’ve seen it happen COUNTLESS times. I’ve facilitated confessions by enabling those who want to talk, and let them.

Now, if you’ve done everything right, the ball is in your court and you have the initiative. Yes, the system will try to bury you, because you dared defend yourself (Bad boy!). But:
1. You didn’t give them any rope to hang you with, because you STFU.
2. You didn’t initiate hostilities with the bully, he touched you first.
3. You have numerous witnesses that will attest to this, and because schools are one step removed from prisons these days, there’s probably video evidence as well. Don’t forget those handy cell phone cameras everyone just HAS to have these days too!

If all done right, the end result will be that bully (and his cohorts) will never f~~~ with you again. The police state will not have a person to add to their plantation ( or maybe they will when they charge the bully), and the school district will have egg on it’s face for defending it’s “zero tolerance” (zero thought) policy, and it will be seen for the sham it is by everyone. Who knows, maybe even a policy change or two will be in order due to your actions.

When I was younger, I was bullied hard. Mostly because I was a minority in an all-white small town school. One day I fought back. And I got my ass kicked that day. But this was a different time. There were no police involved. I was not punished. But that guy never f~~~ed with me again.

Because he knew I would fight back.

Learn how to deal with bullies now. You find they are everywhere in the real world, and they don’t all just want to push you around physically.

Women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I do not avoid women. But I do deny them my essence.

[The-Mad-TaoistParticipant 123]

Bobby wrote:

Ask the bully if he dislikes you so much, why he is always giving you so much attention? Tell him if he dislikes you so much, he should just ignore you. Tell him he seems obsessed by you. To prove he is not obsessed with, tell him he should ignore you.

versions of that have worked for me in the past. Know your foe, as soon as you find the motive you will probably pity him.

his parents probably treat him like s~~~. remind him of that if your right he will probably attack you so be careful, maybe just offer him a hug cause his mom wont.

A single man is a sovereign man

[The-Mad-TaoistParticipant 123]

experienced wrote:

Don’t quote me on this:

Kick his knee out.

Hard.

Permanently crippling hard.

don’t listen to experienced he’s wrong

A single man is a sovereign man

[TheStormWithinParticipant 778]

Damn, this is a page torn out of the book of my life. I attended nothing but private schools, as well, and I experienced the same scenario you did. I simply ignored it. I knew I could crush the sack of s~~~, but it would have led to expulsion. It gnawed at my insides having to turn the other cheek, but I got lucky when I ran into him a few years after graduating at a Domino’s Pizza store. I saw him inside just before I was about to enter, but stayed outside to wait for him. When he came out, he tried to play it off like he was glad to see me, as if nothing ever happened. I ended up shoving him up against the wall, and I said “open your mouth NOW, you little prick.”

He then said “you know I was just messing around with you back in school, right?” I replied “that’s what I thought”, and let him go. That was satisfying enough for me.

In your case, since it’s your senior year, I would just ignore it. You may have the opportunity to see him again just as I did.

Aunt Esther: Fred, I'll have you know this body was blessed by Mother Nature!! Fred: Well, too bad your face was cursed by Father Time!

[ResidentEvil7Participant 9541]

I’ll tell you what you should do; go to the gym, buff up, and when graduation comes, kick some ass and while you’re kicking it, tell him why this is happening to him and it’s because he was an asshole to you. Do it after you get your diploma, hand it to your parents and then take care of the job.

I’ve had more than my fair share of bullies and hellish days in school and I will tell you I wish I had started strength training back then. It would of made high school and post high school for me much smoother if the Mexicans and jocks and liberals saw what they were up against.

There was this kid that was the same grade as me, but a foot shorter and he would always win at everything and rub it in and make everyone feel weaker than him. He was also a cheater. He also had a mother that was an elementary head school lunch mother with a lot of authority; so he felt special. He would start fights with me while I felt afraid of him. At the start of middle school, I had enough of his bulls~~~. He and a friend of his tried to start a fight off school grounds with me and a friend. He charged for my legs to knock me down, but I pounded his back and punched him in the face. That was that, and he never was found starting a fight again now that he saw that he got taken down by a wimpy loser (like I was then). Although he did like to get in people’s faces if you say or stand for something he disagreed with. So I’m guessing he’s hardcore liberal since bullying people you disagree with is their thing.

Two months later, another asshole, a Mexican, for no reason came to me before school and started a fist fight with me. I think it’s because I got a student-of-the-month award and special recognition and he’s a loser type that can’t achieve s~~~ and took it out on me by calling me nerd of the month and starting fights. I had to be in-school suspended for being involved in a real fight. F~~~ing asshole! This kid even formed a Mexican gang. I had a lot of problems with him.

In freshmen year, I had a fat kid terrorize me after English class. He would follow me around saying mean things and pushing me through the stairwell door. There was a day I kicked him down the stairs and left. The next day, before school he searched the school for me and when he found me, he slugged me super hard to the point I couldn’t breath. I went to the dean’s office to report him, because I thought I was going to die, I couldn’t breath for so long. They made us both talk it over and were both sentenced to in-school detention, placed in the same room and treated like prisoners — genius!

The remainder of high school was nothing but insults, obnoxious noises, and picking on me. I think what kept it going was I kept giving them reactions. I reported the same kids literally every other week, and it was the same bulls~~~ — sit down with the deans and talk it over and end it with a handshake. Talk is cheap; I wanted the school to split us up! I even had to drop a class in my senior year because of this asshole who terrorized me for years. I wasn’t going to let him ruin the reminder of high school for me.

Like I said above, I wish I had taken strength training back in my middle school and high school times. It would made the punks afraid to do this to me every day.

What’s sad is my aunt and her kids, which is my dad’s favorite sister is immature, obnoxious and picks on me for a reaction while dealing with those assholes in school, and she still does. She’s a full-grown adult and she picks on me for a reaction so she can have a laugh while she was making me feel like s~~~, and this is my dad’s favorite sister.

So whether if it’s family or peers, I dealt with all kinds of s~~~ from people to the point I stay away from people and not trust them (they have to earn it first). And I even get very picky about what jobs to apply for, because I won’t apply to something if I feel I’m going to have people problems like I did in school and with my aunt.

Women, girls aren’t the only reason for me going the MGTOW way; just people in general.

https://themanszone.webs.com/

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant 143]

Blade,

Bullies are ALWAYS Narcissist. Narcissism is my particular ‘especcciaallliittyy’ 🙂

[please read all of this post Blade]

<sooo many references>
-https://www.google.com/search?q=bullie+narcissist&oq=bullie+narcissist&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.3806j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=bully+narcissist

Narcissism is a (popular but not clearly understood by popular culture, understatement..) Cluster B ‘personality disorder’.

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The following is for HIGH SCHOOL/COLLEGE MGTOW :

Men/Boys who are bullies/Narcs : USE these tactics (among others) commonly, but physical/action based : Push, bump you like you don’t exist, take your food, say ‘hurtful things’ <if you look, ignore you and laugh with his friends>, stare you down (often with a harsh, threatening look) or worse..

Women [toward a guy] who are bullies/Narcs : USE these tactics (covert, especially as adult are worse, because you can’t “Report” this type of abuse if you wanted: Ignore you when you say or ask something, forcing you to ask many times (covert abuse, as if you’re not there and not worth listening to) which, (don’t fall for it) forces you to ‘speak up’, ‘say something over and over making you look foolish’, ‘raise your voice’ whereby everyone can hear, etc. THEN they use ‘Shaming language’, as if you are ‘crazy’ for thinking you have the right to say anything -or- ‘crazy/stupid’ for saying something so many times -or- .. they have lots of options to ‘spin things’ and shame.

NOTE:

Your FEELINGS after an interaction with someone: it is REAL. Understanding your feelings is another matter and can take knowledge and experience.

‘GasLighting’ is what Narcissists do. A key component is to make you DOUBT what you ‘feel’,’think’ and ‘believe’. It’s Mind Fuc*Kry.

Let that sink in a minute.

Your feelings are not wrong.

Just because you can’t ‘report’ someone rolling their eyes at you, doesn’t mean your feelings after someone ‘dismisses’ you are wrong! These are ALL ‘shaming’ tactics! (covert abuse)

Do you feel LESS valuable / worthless after it happens?

Your feelings are correct! They’re NOT good people!

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Men (bullies/narcs) are (80%-90%+) OVERT first, then (both, Overt and) Covert.

Woman (bullies/narcs) are almost always COVERT first, until they believe they ‘own’ you. Then you get the MIX – Covert [til they believe they own you/marriage] then Overt.

Note: Narcs think they own those who choose to be with them.

Note: Narcs ‘prey’ on good people who don’t have ‘Boundaries’. [boundaries = the ability/willingness to fight back or leave if you feel mistreated/abused]

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These (Narcs/Bullies) individuals ‘prey’ on what they WANTED to be, but couldn’t because they didn’t get the same kind of love you did -OR- because you were abused in a similar fashion and choose not to fight (or be as hurt as they were) and therefore remind them they didn’t fight (or fare as well as you did – how can you be content and happy? How? I hate you, the bully ‘feels’ subconsciously) those who hurt them.

They ‘smell’ it as kindness, gentleness, happiness, etc.

They ‘envy’ what you have (perceived, though not ‘consciously’ thinking this way, anymore than they/you/I/anyone could tell you WHY they like a particular color, features of a girl,etc —saying, I dunno, I just do! Why do you hate him/her? I dunno, I just do. There is Psych behind everything. Nothing ‘just is’. 100 years ago, sure, it ‘just is’.. NOW? There is LOTS of data.. Trust me – I have the references and data. We DO KNOW that people do things for reasons, and that MOST OF THEM are not CONSIDERED/PREMEDITATED! It is AUTOPILOT! Do you think about which step you will take first when you stand? I could go on. )

This is another (psychologically provable) reason MGTOW is ON THE RIGHT TRACK!

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Now. This is where most people stop, (columnists, commentators, etc) satisfied with ‘understanding and explaining’, but you can ‘reprogram’ yourself (perception) so this doesn’t HURT you when it DOES happen! Here is how, (do it your own way) using this logic:

What if the same ABUSE EVENT happened by someone you don’t know, cross eyed, buck teeth, unable to string a sentence together, one shoe, patches of hair, covered in s~~~, (imagine something or someone, had they done the same thing whereby you would laugh they had the nerve to do it and they) did the same thing. Would you be as hurt?

You perceive your status BELOW them, that is why you are/were hurt! Their actions PROVE they are not above you!

You are HURT because you ascribe VALUE to these people.

They JUST PROVED THEY HAVE NO VALUE! You being hurt is a function of them trying to elevate themselves above you! Because they KNOW they are lower! But if you CARE about (what they say/do), then they are ABOVE YOU!

Easy psychology!

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Understand this about Narcissists (all bullies are Narcs – no exception, and this is psychology, not ‘pop’ babble excuses) they themselves were (‘are currently being’ if you’re in High School) abused by their parents with the same tactics they’re using on you.

Overt ‘Action/physical’ bullying? They’re being pushed around at home.

Combination? They’re getting both (shamed and physically pushed around, not getting unconditional love as a parent should) at home.

Covert only (Women/Girls usually) : that is what they are getting. [This is how it looks : At home (by parents who should unconditionally love) these girls have to be, say and act the way (one or more of) their parents expect(s), or they are shamed as not being good enough, thereby being deprived of unconditional love.

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Pity them. (maybe, if this is your thing, pray for them) Feel sorry for them. But don’t feel like their ‘approval/acceptance’ is something you NEED.

Know, they’re getting abuse ( ‘covert’ [shaming] at LEAST and maybe Overt [action based] too) and have gotten it (abuse) since they were 2-4 when this began.

I for one feel bad for them. They might as well be saying, “I’m being abused, will you help me by letting me feel better at your expense?”

Note: Psychological Abuse, that is, ONLY getting CONDITIONAL love/respect (from someone you love/trust/respect/have authority over you), is psychological abuse. Period. From parents, acquaintances, spouses, people in authority, etc.

Parent’s in this day in age are not aware : Their children are not ‘property’. Children are not their ‘actions’. Children are not an ‘extension’ of them. They are human beings for whom they have temporary responsibility (custody) over until they become adults. If the parents are unconditionally loving, the child, when adult will be.. You guessed it! If they parents are..

You got it now! Cycles… And the ‘beat goes on’…

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This post is already SO LONG long, (sorry, this post struck a chord with me) and I wrote a book on Narcissism, so I know I can get carried away… Sorry..

FYI Blade, I was also bullied in High School. Only these last couple of years, and in a big, major way, thanks to MGTOW have all the pieces now come together.

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One more time, if it isn’t clear (I know I’ve beat this to death)
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Overt = ‘ACTIONS’ to show their (supposed) ‘Alpha’ traits. Contrary to (ignorant) pop-media culture, it has NOTHING TO DO WITH ACTING/BEING CONFIDENT!

Narcissism and all ‘Personality Disorders’ (Clusters A-C, there are 10 of them) are about how you treat people (effects) are because of how you perceive you were being treated (cause) in the past, that’s why they’re called ‘personality disorders’.

Comorbid (often accompany, and are also coping mechanisms) I call it ‘grab bag’ in the book, but psychology calls them ‘neurosis’ such as Anxiety (when chronic, and without a reason), ODD, OCD, Addictions (work, substance, etc) ..

There are lots of them. They’re ‘coping’ mechanisms for abuse.

Childhood abuse (forget ‘physical’, compared to ‘psychological’ it is rare) because (in effect) it FUSES to the developing pathology (psychology/reasoning/mental state) of the child’s developing mind, it is permanent.

Treatment [post already long – look it up] involves being aware of the condition and making adjustments – I.E a car that pulls hard to the right permanently. Aware of it? Always compensate to stay in the middle of the road, but if you’re not being ‘conscious’ of your (pull to the right) you’ll pull hard to the right and ‘damage something/someone/yourself’

Parents who abuse aren’t aware they’re abusing their kids unless it is pointed out.

Raising abused kids who abuse.. etc. A cycle, nobody being (conscious) aware… nobody doing it on ‘purpose’.. Nobody doing anything about it.

YOU GOT THIS NOW BLADE!

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REGARDING PARENTS: (they spawn bullies)

Note: Children have no ability to ‘leave’ or ‘fight back’ against parents, so it is critical parents be unconditionally loving

As teens, when they ‘fight back’ (act out/language), they’re seen as ‘troubled’ — correct, because of the parents.

We see the SPAWN of parental abuse in young bullies. Nobody knowing what a lifetime of ‘Covert shaming’ abuse does, the teen unable to understand or express what the heck happened to them. It is EASIER if they can point to physical abuse! It is impossible for them to express covert abuse (all kinds of different shaming, all based in me ‘controlling you and behavior’ such that you cannot ever have any ‘human’ boundaries)

..And that happened tens of thousands of times during the child’s life starting from 3-5.

Any examples the now young adult/teen would give (even if they could name 50.. 100 instances) would make the outside world say, “Well that is no excuse!” What if they could name 10,000 (or more shaming) instances? See how that NOW explains things?

DONE!

..And sorry everyone for this ridiculously long post!

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Why have you pointed this out to me ?

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

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Yes i got it . Had to read it a couple of times . a lot on my mind as you know .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

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Thanks Redpillbible.

Seems lots of people put in long posts.

Tells me lots were bullied as I was decades ago.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant 143]

Lone Wolf,

Sorry for my other post, which wasn’t advice but a diatribe on generic general bullies and psychology. I confess, Bully hit’s a personal nerve.

You said/asked, “This one prick goes out of his way to attempt to dehumanize me or belittle my accomplishments solely through verbal abuse. I’m not scared of the guy, but I’m wondering how a man would handle this.”

You take his girl, or whatever girl in the school you want, and you also embarrass him.

That is what you do.

OR, you be kind and understand he is/was abused and his fate is grim.

If you care to hasten the inevitable, then my friend, the doctor is in!

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