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Exercise in the morning grows brain cells, gets vit D up and helps burn off anxiety stress hormones. I ran 28 marathons in 6 months a while back- never felt grumpy during the training for this.
Yep, going to start doing that this week. It seems to rain every day now. Just waiting for it to clear up.
Thinking about getting dog, but I worry that when I am out and about, the dog will be suffering as I do not really like to use the AC in the summer. Plus, since when I am out and about, I am gone for 8 – 10 hours. Keeping a dog stuck in a house for 10 hours straight day after day isn’t a good idea.
I recommend getting a cat. Could more than likely handle your warm house. I’m like you out 8 to 10 hours a day. I like dogs, but a dog doesn’t fit into my busy lifestyle. A cat is very independent and can pretty much survive on its own. I feed mine in the morning before I leave and when I get home in the evening. I also scoop his cat box once a day usually in the morning. He’s an indoor cat, so he is completely institutionalized lol, box trained, declawed and fixed. Never have had one issue with him crapping or p~~~ing on the floor or shredding the furniture in the 5 years I’ve had him. He is such a great friend. He pretty much is always by my side at home. He hangs out on my lap, sleeps on my bed, lets me give him hugs, always greets me at the door when I come home at night much like a dog, but really just not as needy. Some guys hate cats, but they are an awesome alternative when a dog isn’t a good fit for you.
Perhaps, it’s a consideration. Cats you cannot clean though. They hate baths and water.
Life has no purpose.
Born, struggle, then die.
When you die, everything you’ve accomplished was for naught.
As a theistic luciferian, my heart is covered in darkness, unable to love, to connect with, and cherish others. I hate people.
The Bible says God reserve hell for Lucifer and his followers. Well, God, someone needs to dethrone you, cause you suck at your job.
F~~~ life.
Yea.. Always wondered the meaning of life. For the average human, it seems to buy s~~~ and impress others who do not give a f~~~ about them. For animals, it’s pure survival.
I wasted over 10 years with her and got nothing out of it.
This is the most powerful feeling, once you feel it, you NEVER will fell for the BP bulls~~~ again. I’ve lost a lot of time that I could spend on myself, I’ve too many hours fighting with c~~~s that I could just had spend doing something else.
Life is a countdown to death, no matter how much you wasted with her, THANK GOD YOU DIDN’T WASTE MORE. 10 years is a lot of time, but at least it isn’t 11 ! Now that she is gone, start enjoying, you may not feel that you will like anything, you are in a depressive state of mind, that happens, but don’t give up, the worst is gone !
I can never trust a woman again, so there goes having a family
Happy families like painted in the BP media are just a lie, forget about that. The very first step is to disassociate what you have been told from the reality.
The reality is AWALT, there is no happy family, there is a temporary environment where c~~~s will leech from you until they get bored and dump you ass to retire early with alimony. “Oh, but in the older days”, in the older days divorced women were shamed, single mothers were seen as promiscuous c~~~s, society put those women in their places, nowadays things changed. Back in those days, a women would do anything to not get divorced because of the social stigma, now being divorced is like cashing their prize.
What’s the point? Lost all my “friends” due to this f~~~ing divorce.
“Friends”… I’ve lost several of my “friends” because their wifes don’t let them do anything. Sincerely, you didn’t lose anything.
People that talk to you because you are in a position that they want to talk to you (have money, you are in their social circles, etc…) are not friends because of that. They are friends if they talk to you even if they didn’t see you around, they pay you a beer if you are broke, they call you just to say that you are a f~~~~~ that can’t remember their number, those are friends, people that you can count on, and that they can count on you.
This “I’m your friend because our wives are friends” is pure bulls~~~, this is just a cheap social contract that you don’t want to break to make things weird.
Tried to go to these meetup groups to make new friends, but it’s mostly women there and a few men.
Don’t go to those places. People become friends when they bond for a reason and expand that, in those places you will find a lot of desperate people, just that.
Get a hobby that you like, gym, some martial art, sports, music, etc… If you want to meet new people, do some activity together in those places. Play tennis, if you go everyday in the same time, you will possibly play with the same people, besides, c~~~s can’t compete with men, they are weak, slow and have the worst reflexes ever. So you will have a “mens only” space.
Why else would a wife ask for an open marriage 1.5 years into the marriage?
AWALT, she is just a f~~~ing disgusting whore. She liked your money, your affection, but she misses the c~~~carousel.
Believe me, it is not about you, is not your fault, is not something that you did. What she did was only about her, her selfish mind saying that she wanted a c~~~carousel ride being paid by you.
Brother, be strong, believe me, this is just a moment in your life, soon it will all go away, you just need to taste what you got, feel the taste of freedom, don’t search for happiness in your social circles, do things that you like by your own, and if you find some friend who shares the same interests, you can share those moments, but try to be happy alone, without needing anyone.
And please don’t get a dog, is not cool keep a dog under those conditions. Want a “baby”, buy a motorcycle ! You will have something to spend time make your adjustments, and if you are alone, this is a hell of a good thing to do, you will distract your mind, learn a new thing (if you already don’t know mechanics) and after that you can ride somewhere to cool your head.
Luckily, it was only roughly 2 years of marriage, 8 years together. I only found out about her true feelings after I read on a forum about VARs. You only know the truth about what someone feels about you when you are not around them. Pure anger, resentment and borderline hate towards me. That was when my world was turned upside down. I never, to anyone, said anything negative about her. I will never put myself in that situation again. I am not suicidal, just if I didn’t wake up in the morning, I’d be at peace. No regrets outside of this failure of a marriage, I’ve accomplished the majority of my goals. The only goal left is to run for public office. That means putting a lot of my personal life on the line, so I am weary about that.
Yea, I’ve already dissociated from most of the media. I watch Youtube and read some of Yahoo, but that is about it. The regular media is so far left, it’s crazy. I am not far right, more center right in my political beliefs. I guess, I just feel like when I see men with friends out and about that I am missing something. Yea, I am switching to more activity based groups, but all I seen so far are needy spineless men there or hog beast women. Seems the worst of the worst. I feel like a total failure going to hang out with them on a Friday or Saturday so I just stay home. Yes, I will agree and have the tapes to prove it. She only cared about herself. Even her s~~~ty mom said it’s not all about you and maybe he’s (me) right and it is in your (her) head. She wouldn’t hear of it. I’ve learned the hard way. Clear and simple.
Yes, dogs give you unconditional love and are very loyal, unlike women. Get a dog that you can work into an exercise routine of fast walking or running. Giving love and attention to your “best friend” will get your outside of your pain. Find yourself a dogsitter, it’s worth the investment.
Walking in a forest is naturally therapeutic. There is a healing power in being amongst trees and nature. It soothes the mind and emotions.
To improve your overall health start with a detox such as Green Detox. Here’s a link:
https://deals.sixpackabs.com/desktop/greendetox/
To kill boredom:
(1) take on a cause that you believe in: pet rescue, homeless men, counter-jihad, counter-marxism, etc.
(2) do something that is a challenge and has a fear factor: motorcycling, sailing, racing, hill climbing, etc.
(3) join in or create a “good old boys” coffee club in your area.
Hope this helps.
Some good ideas. Thank you.
How do you guys pull yourself from the ledge of life?
I’ve come to the realization that 98.5% of the things that we do will be a mistake. I also realize that despite how much effort we put into life, success is really 98.5% luck or chance. Understanding and acknowledging this helps me to reconcile life’s disappointments.
Consider also that many of our f~~~-ups are largely due to the bulls~~~ that we were fed during our upbringing. Grown adults, who really should have known better, fed our young, underdeveloped minds s~~~ and it’s not our fault for taking it all in at face value. This is a one big reason why I have so much disgust for those who continue to spew bulls~~~ today…
Yea, it is starting to look like a mix between 1984 and Fahrenheit 451.
Tried to go to these meetup groups to make new friends,
Meet-up groups are full of simps and women, they will only produce anger and stress. Stay away from them.
Since the divorce, financially, I’ve recovered. Socially and mentally, not at all.
Everyday forward will get better. One day you will look back on all that pain as a blessing, pointing to it and saying “that was when I became free, I just didn’t know it yet.”
Thinking about getting dog,
Don’t get a dog. You’re very vulnerable right now. Wait a while
I still believe she cheated on me, though, I couldn’t prove it. Why else would a wife ask for an open marriage 1.5 years into the marriage?
Of course she cheated on you. You don’t know it yet, but she did you a huge favor by f~~~ing up her relationship with you. That was a major mistake on her part. You are now free as a bird. Once that pain dulls, an immense feeling of freedom and happiness, like you’ve never felt before, is coming. Guaranteed!
I do not believe in psychologists,
And you’re right not to. What incentive do they have to fix you? That would mean they don’t need to be paid anymore. Also, they will get you hooked on meds. F~~~ that. You’re healthy and you don’t need medicine, maybe you do, I don’t know. I do not support anti-depressants, that’s just me.
Take it easy on that KETO stuff. You lost 28 pounds? Dude, relax…eat some carbs and put your feet up. You’re are the most liberated man on the planet right now, your breakfast tastes better than any man on this thread. Do not punish yourself further bro. There is nothing to be mad about or ashamed of. What happened, happened and couldn’t of happened any other way. Live for TODAY
Taking it day by day. Funny thing, when she really needed me for support, I was there many times, ever time. When I needed her for support, after marriage, she left me for dead. We had a leak in the basement and it was flooding. I was putting down towels and mopping up. She went out and got her nails done. I had 103 fever, she left me on my own, not even checking up on me. One thing she said to me prior to marriage and I didn’t pay much attention to it was, “I’ve had my fun. I’m ready to settle down”. I was very naive and didn’t know what that really meant. It means, I need someone to work and pay for everything. You’ll do. My business was failing, she couldn’t care less. It took me three years, but I rebuilt, retooled and stable. The legal fees from the divorce hurt her. She’s mid 40’s with around 40k to her name. She was stunning when I met her. She’d put on at least 60 LBS since then.
Never again. I’ve learned that lesson the hard way. Sadly, I cannot confirm the cheating either with GPS or VARs. I so wanted to file a fault ground divorce based on adultery. I tried for months to prove it. I started six months prior to discussion of separation. No luck. My lawyer said perhaps it was pre-menopause. Who knows. It does run in her family. Her mom had it at 42; which was far from the age I filed for divorce from her. Keto is a good diet. I have diabetes in my family. I have enough medical issues to deal with. I do not want to add diabetes to it. Mine is more modified keto. I have low carbs like veggies, fruit and rice, moderate fat and protein. No processed foods. It’s hard to go out to eat, as I prefer to know what is actually in my foods. I’ve learned a lot about cooking from Youtube. So, I’ve mostly been following those guidelines.
I am still waiting so I do not make any rash decisions. It helps talking it out on this forum. So I thank all of you for listening to my BS.
Go get one of these. Mine is green and costs $150 a month. I drove around a beautiful lake yesterday, laughing my ass off.
Depression, yeah I had it. I thought my life was over, I was going to burn myself to death in the backyard of the house that I had renovated. Living in a minivan going to community college in the middle of Chicago winter is depressing as f~~~. Going to court every week for 6 years is depressing and expensive. Having my kids delivered to me by Chad in his work truck is depressing. Living in a tent for 5 month in Western Kansas summer, depressing as f~~~. Roll all of that up into a big ball and send it off a cliff and into the ocean.
Working every damn day to rebuild my life the way I want it, not having to compromise with anyone is exhilarating. Divorce saved my life. Walking away from all the material possessions saved my life. Being absolutely wrecked stripped away all the sentimental baggage and allowed me to experience a rebirth. I got a do over. Everything in my life has one purpose, to serve me. Not some c~~~, not my kids, not her family. Me. No one ever took care of me in marriage, I was squeezed out to the sides, or I got left overs. The c~~~ would allow me to buy things only if there was dire need, and was annoyed by my basic needs.
Best part about yesterday was the empty right seat in the car. No one there to bitch and whine. I parked the car and sat on a bench for as long as I wanted, to watch the geese, the waves and the boats. I took the pictures that I wanted with a fine expensive camera that I chose. I ate the lunch that I wanted and sat in a place of my choosing and just watched the world go by for a while. No c~~~ there to tell me she was hot, or cold, or bored, or the sun is in her eyes. No c~~~ telling me to slow down, or go that way, or its too windy in the car or turn on the radio.
I was laughing my ass off for many reasons, but chief among them was I could never have a car like this when I was married. I would never have a day to go out and f~~~ around by myself. Maybe I could go for a bike ride when the kids were in school, but only after all the house chores were done, I could never have a two seat car, I could never be off on my own, I could never cast off my responsibilities long enough to feel happy. I was satisfied in my life when I was married, like I had done my duty as a human being, house, dog, wife, kids. Satisfied, but not happy. My existence did not make me laugh out loud.
Yesterday, I felt alive and free. All I had to do yesterday was make sure I did not run out of gas, and not to crash. I saw a man in a red BMW convertible with a boy, just driving around, we passed and waved. Doing the same thing I was doing, celebrating freedom. Goddam if I could bottle up how I felt yesterday and sell it for $50 a bottle, I’s be a gazillionaire.
Today I have things to do, and I’m working on them.
The cure to your depression lies within you. Figure out what is broken in your life, and make a plan to fix it. You are a man. You are capable of this.
Yea, I am working on looking within my life and what is wrong. I think growing with family issues was a big culprit. My older sibling, who’s no longer around, was always in trouble and drained our family’s finances to the point of near bankruptcy. Parents always fighting about money, not having enough to keep the lights one, etc. It was then when I decided not to ever get married. Yet, I was weak a few years ago and did. I went back on my word, so I hurt myself. It’s my fault.
My internal struggles do not compare to yours. I give you mad props for overcoming that diversity and striving. It gives me hope. Thank you for sharing your stories and progress. I have an old little sports car that I worked on and brought it back to life. My ex-wife actually wanted me to get rid of it; amongst other things that I owned for HER OWN GOOD and the baby that never happened. Never did that. It was pre-marital and she’d never get her hands on my money. I worked and still work seven days a week. Over my dead body that she’d take anything that wasn’t hers away from me.
You are a very strong man. You are an inspiration to us and men all over the world fighting the good fight. Kudos.
Great post brother. Truly open. I can tell you that time is a healer. You will let go of that which angers you as you work towards building the life you want. That is all you can do after great loss or waste. At least you are not trapped by children / financial support.
Today is the first day of the rest of your life. Many of us have been there. Good luck.
Thank you brother. Just sharing my scars; mostly due to my own bad decisions. Never, in a million years, did I think I’d be in this position. I will work myself out of it. The community has helped a lot.
My dogs have really helped me. Whenever I am sad they know and always come over to cheer me up. I am lucky I have the time to take care of them though. I know some breeds require less maintenance. Or maybe find someone to let them out once a day while you are gone. I would highly recommend a dog though. Also, when I get sad and lonely and start thinking about the C~~~ and the few things that were good, I just sit outside somewhere quiet and remember all of the yelling, screaming, lies, and manipulation of the former C~~~ and it doesn’t take long to stop missing that s~~~. I think this passes over time as it doesn’t happen very often now. It’s easy to remember the good times, when this happens make yourself remember why you left that piece of s~~~ in the first place. True friends will find you. I found most of mine saw through her bulls~~~ eventually. If they don’t, f~~~ em. My ex did a smear campaign from hell. None of it stuck because the truth comes out in the end. I had one friend who I met after being married and then after the divorce they said “I’ve never met this guy. I like this guy.” Which just means I returned to my normal self after 12 years of mental abuse. It takes time. Good luck man.
Yea, I’ve sat outside and done the same as you. I’ve been there many of times. It’s just going through the motions in order to get it out of my system. I know I am stronger than I was a year or two years ago. I just do not understand how someone can be so shallow and heartless. I guess, that is what I’ve been wrestling with for so long. That and that the wool was pulled over my eyes. I was woken up by the good posters at Talk About Marriage, and they told me things to do. Once I heard those VAR tapes, wow. I kicked her out within 3 months. Actually, I got her to make the suggestion herself as her therapist (the one she wouldn’t let me go see with her) suggested a separation. She was surprised that I agreed to it. I even prepared the legal separation document for her to review and sign. She wouldn’t sign it. Funny thing, she stated to her friends that the therapist told her to take me to a public place to tell me that she wanted a divorce so I do not over react. Considering I’ve never yelled or lost my temper at her, I really think she was living in another dimension. The last VAR I had she said she couldn’t believe I pushed her to move out and then filed for divorce without discussing it with her. I sent her a long e-mail message on my decision, but never heard back.
To say she was shell shocked would be an understatement. I guess what got me to do this was it was a severed and broken contract that need to be corrected. Since she wasn’t going to do it, I was. I do not regret filing for divorce. I regret offering marriage to her. Obviously, I didn’t know the woman I was marring nor how bad the marriage situation in the US is. Never again.
Marriage counseling for me was an eye opener. She quit going because the therapist “bought into your s~~~!” Yes, screaming. Go figure.
I went once by myself to our old counselor who was a woman, but she was cool as s~~~ and had good advice. One of those unicorns I think, who knows, probably a C~~~ too, but I guess she could at least recognize the behavior. And she did help me through a rough time. Sometimes even good friends get tired of hearing about your s~~~.
I’m like you brother ForeverDone, love that ID, I am forever done. I just don’t acknowledge their flirtatious gestures that they all have to woo you. F~~~ off bitch. lol. It becomes a sixth sense in time. And they sense that they have no effect on you. Then they want to play a game. The easiest way to win that game is not to play.
Peace out.
Marriage counseling for me was an eye opener. She quit going because the therapist “bought into your s~~~!” Yes, screaming. Go figure.
I went once by myself to our old counselor who was a woman, but she was cool as s~~~ and had good advice. One of those unicorns I think, who knows, probably a C~~~ too, but I guess she could at least recognize the behavior. And she did help me through a rough time. Sometimes even good friends get tired of hearing about your s~~~.
I’m like you brother ForeverDone, love that ID, I am forever done. I just don’t acknowledge their flirtatious gestures that they all have to woo you. F~~~ off bitch. lol. It becomes a sixth sense in time. And they sense that they have no effect on you. Then they want to play a game. The easiest way to win that game is not to play.
Peace out.
No doubt. These women have destroyed so many men the only ones left are the cucks and the simps. After that, they will start to eat their own. Sad state of affairs.
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