How do you guys pull yourself from the ledge of life?

[Roy Rogers McFreelyParticipant 196]

Thinking about getting dog, but I worry that when I am out and about, the dog will be suffering as I do not really like to use the AC in the summer. Plus, since when I am out and about, I am gone for 8 – 10 hours. Keeping a dog stuck in a house for 10 hours straight day after day isn’t a good idea.

I recommend getting a cat. Could more than likely handle your warm house. I’m like you out 8 to 10 hours a day. I like dogs, but a dog doesn’t fit into my busy lifestyle. A cat is very independent and can pretty much survive on its own. I feed mine in the morning before I leave and when I get home in the evening. I also scoop his cat box once a day usually in the morning. He’s an indoor cat, so he is completely institutionalized lol, box trained, declawed and fixed. Never have had one issue with him crapping or p~~~ing on the floor or shredding the furniture in the 5 years I’ve had him. He is such a great friend. He pretty much is always by my side at home. He hangs out on my lap, sleeps on my bed, lets me give him hugs, always greets me at the door when I come home at night much like a dog, but really just not as needy. Some guys hate cats, but they are an awesome alternative when a dog isn’t a good fit for you.

Never again

[G.O.A.TParticipant 1459]

Life has no purpose.

Born, struggle, then die.

When you die, everything you’ve accomplished was for naught.

As a theistic luciferian, my heart is covered in darkness, unable to love, to connect with, and cherish others. I hate people.

The Bible says God reserve hell for Lucifer and his followers. Well, God, someone needs to dethrone you, cause you suck at your job.

F~~~ life.

Money is God.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

What helped me was making goals, planning steps to reach those goals. As I progressed, I became happier. Some goals were small and some big. Some goals changed. As long as I kept setting goals for myself, i got better.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[StealthParticipant 5328]

All great suggestions. Keep taking care of business, and you’ll be fine.

One thing I would add to others’ suggestions is separate in your mind between what is in your control and what isn’t. Other peoples’ decisions, people forsaking your trust on a whim, your wife being a whore, have nothing to do with you directly. What you CAN control are the decisions YOU make every day. Use that to steer your life from its present shipwrecked state into greater waters. It will take practice, and expect relapses along the way, but from this perspective, happiness—both attitude and feeling—is based on your choice alone.

From The Enchiridion, by stoic philosopher Epictetus:
“Some things are in our control and others not. Things in our control are opinion, pursuit, desire, aversion, and, in a word, whatever are our own actions. Things not in our control are body, property, reputation, command, and, in one word, whatever are not our own actions.

The things in our control are by nature free, unrestrained, unhindered; but those not in our control are weak, slavish, restrained, belonging to others. Remember, then, that if you suppose that things which are slavish by nature are also free, and that what belongs to others is your own, then you will be hindered. You will lament, you will be disturbed, and you will find fault both with gods and men. But if you suppose that only to be your own which is your own, and what belongs to others such as it really is, then no one will ever compel you or restrain you. Further, you will find fault with no one or accuse no one. You will do nothing against your will. No one will hurt you, you will have no enemies, and you not be harmed.”

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

Your post is one of the best I have read. It shows the emotions you are going through.

As I read your post I clearly saw everything I went through. Like many brothers I didn’t have this site. I stood upon the edge of the cliff raging with emotions.

First, do nothing!
No dog. No cat. No woman. You are in search of nothing.

Red pill rage is the stage when you think like a woman.

Second, it is not her fault, she shouldn’t have been there. If you replace your wife with any other woman the outcome would have been the same.

No woman could have completed the broken you. Only a man can complete himself. Your answer is not external. Your problem is usually your mother. Mommy unresolved issues. (I say this because a mother has the most impact on us. Momma rage is internal. No woman is good. Single Mommas are the worst followed by the other mothers)

If you say your mother is the most wonderful person on earth, you have issues. No momma unicorn exists. A boy must face the momma dragon of his chaos before he can become a man. Why? Because, he can never know nothing (internal peace) until he forgives his mother. Why would a woman and mother be anything other than what they are? They will rule over you off you let them. It is their nature!

Third, it’s all a lie. Santa, NASA, moon mission, mars rovers, living on a blue marble spinning while tilted at 20 something degrees, women are equal to a man and unicorn women exist are all a lie. In fact, most everything is a lie.

Forth, I wish I could guide you and make it all better. If I did you would remain the broken man you are. You believe you need to pickup the broken pieces and put it back together. If you saw me help you, you would notice that I would see nothing. I would feel nothing.

You are going through the stages of grief over the death of your marriage.

Find peace my brother.

Peace brothers

[BigDParticipant 3024]

A lot of people with above average IQ who have problems tend to get on themselves about their problems. They keep wondering what if they made different decisions, and beat themselves up for those decisions.

Here’s the thing. Everyone has made bad decisions. Everyone has problems. Instead of dwelling on the problems themselves, work out to how to rise above these problems.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[SolidParticipant 7520]

ForeverDone wrote:

I wasted over 10 years with her and got nothing out of it.

This is the most powerful feeling, once you feel it, you NEVER will fell for the BP bulls~~~ again. I’ve lost a lot of time that I could spend on myself, I’ve too many hours fighting with c~~~s that I could just had spend doing something else.

Life is a countdown to death, no matter how much you wasted with her, THANK GOD YOU DIDN’T WASTE MORE. 10 years is a lot of time, but at least it isn’t 11 ! Now that she is gone, start enjoying, you may not feel that you will like anything, you are in a depressive state of mind, that happens, but don’t give up, the worst is gone !

ForeverDone wrote:

I can never trust a woman again, so there goes having a family

Happy families like painted in the BP media are just a lie, forget about that. The very first step is to disassociate what you have been told from the reality.

The reality is AWALT, there is no happy family, there is a temporary environment where c~~~s will leech from you until they get bored and dump you ass to retire early with alimony. “Oh, but in the older days”, in the older days divorced women were shamed, single mothers were seen as promiscuous c~~~s, society put those women in their places, nowadays things changed. Back in those days, a women would do anything to not get divorced because of the social stigma, now being divorced is like cashing their prize.

ForeverDone wrote:

What’s the point? Lost all my “friends” due to this f~~~ing divorce.

“Friends”… I’ve lost several of my “friends” because their wifes don’t let them do anything. Sincerely, you didn’t lose anything.

People that talk to you because you are in a position that they want to talk to you (have money, you are in their social circles, etc…) are not friends because of that. They are friends if they talk to you even if they didn’t see you around, they pay you a beer if you are broke, they call you just to say that you are a f~~~~~ that can’t remember their number, those are friends, people that you can count on, and that they can count on you.

This “I’m your friend because our wives are friends” is pure bulls~~~, this is just a cheap social contract that you don’t want to break to make things weird.

ForeverDone wrote:

Tried to go to these meetup groups to make new friends, but it’s mostly women there and a few men.

Don’t go to those places. People become friends when they bond for a reason and expand that, in those places you will find a lot of desperate people, just that.

Get a hobby that you like, gym, some martial art, sports, music, etc… If you want to meet new people, do some activity together in those places. Play tennis, if you go everyday in the same time, you will possibly play with the same people, besides, c~~~s can’t compete with men, they are weak, slow and have the worst reflexes ever. So you will have a “mens only” space.

ForeverDone wrote:

Why else would a wife ask for an open marriage 1.5 years into the marriage?

AWALT, she is just a f~~~ing disgusting whore. She liked your money, your affection, but she misses the c~~~carousel.

Believe me, it is not about you, is not your fault, is not something that you did. What she did was only about her, her selfish mind saying that she wanted a c~~~carousel ride being paid by you.

Brother, be strong, believe me, this is just a moment in your life, soon it will all go away, you just need to taste what you got, feel the taste of freedom, don’t search for happiness in your social circles, do things that you like by your own, and if you find some friend who shares the same interests, you can share those moments, but try to be happy alone, without needing anyone.

And please don’t get a dog, is not cool keep a dog under those conditions. Want a “baby”, buy a motorcycle ! You will have something to spend time make your adjustments, and if you are alone, this is a hell of a good thing to do, you will distract your mind, learn a new thing (if you already don’t know mechanics) and after that you can ride somewhere to cool your head.

[RykerParticipant 177]

Yes, dogs give you unconditional love and are very loyal, unlike women. Get a dog that you can work into an exercise routine of fast walking or running. Giving love and attention to your “best friend” will get your outside of your pain. Find yourself a dogsitter, it’s worth the investment.

Walking in a forest is naturally therapeutic. There is a healing power in being amongst trees and nature. It soothes the mind and emotions.

To improve your overall health start with a detox such as Green Detox. Here’s a link:

https://deals.sixpackabs.com/desktop/greendetox/

To kill boredom:

(1) take on a cause that you believe in: pet rescue, homeless men, counter-jihad, counter-marxism, etc.

(2) do something that is a challenge and has a fear factor: motorcycling, sailing, racing, hill climbing, etc.

(3) join in or create a “good old boys” coffee club in your area.

Hope this helps.

While there is life there is hope. Freedom!

[AutoliteParticipant]

ForeverDone wrote:

How do you guys pull yourself from the ledge of life?

I’ve come to the realization that 98.5% of the things that we do will be a mistake. I also realize that despite how much effort we put into life, success is really 98.5% luck or chance. Understanding and acknowledging this helps me to reconcile life’s disappointments.

Consider also that many of our f~~~-ups are largely due to the bulls~~~ that we were fed during our upbringing. Grown adults, who really should have known better, fed our young, underdeveloped minds s~~~ and it’s not our fault for taking it all in at face value. This is a one big reason why I have so much disgust for those who continue to spew bulls~~~ today…

[AutoliteParticipant]

ForeverDone wrote:

Thinking about getting dog, but I worry that when I am out and about, the dog will be suffering as I do not really like to use the AC in the summer.

Can the dog be kept outside during the day? Malamutes are wonderful companions and despite being an Arctic breed they can handle the heat of summer quite well. Maybe consider getting a dog from an animal shelter where the animal would otherwise be eventually executed anyway.

If you cannot properly accommodate a dog then like others have said try getting a cat…

[AutoliteParticipant]

ForeverDone wrote:

I hate the heat, so the next three months are brutal on me. The heat causes my muscle pains in my spine and horrid migraines to come and just reck havoc on my body and mind.

The heat bothers me too! All summer, everyday, I keep a cooler full of ice water nearby to cool myself off when working outside. When I was at work, I kept the full cooler in the back seat of my car…

[Gravel PitParticipant]

ForeverDone wrote:

Tried to go to these meetup groups to make new friends,

Meet-up groups are full of simps and women, they will only produce anger and stress. Stay away from them.

ForeverDone wrote:

Since the divorce, financially, I’ve recovered. Socially and mentally, not at all.

Everyday forward will get better. One day you will look back on all that pain as a blessing, pointing to it and saying “that was when I became free, I just didn’t know it yet.”

ForeverDone wrote:

Thinking about getting dog,

Don’t get a dog. You’re very vulnerable right now. Wait a while

ForeverDone wrote:

I still believe she cheated on me, though, I couldn’t prove it. Why else would a wife ask for an open marriage 1.5 years into the marriage?

Of course she cheated on you. You don’t know it yet, but she did you a huge favor by f~~~ing up her relationship with you. That was a major mistake on her part. You are now free as a bird. Once that pain dulls, an immense feeling of freedom and happiness, like you’ve never felt before, is coming. Guaranteed!

ForeverDone wrote:

I do not believe in psychologists,

And you’re right not to. What incentive do they have to fix you? That would mean they don’t need to be paid anymore. Also, they will get you hooked on meds. F~~~ that. You’re healthy and you don’t need medicine, maybe you do, I don’t know. I do not support anti-depressants, that’s just me.

Take it easy on that KETO stuff. You lost 28 pounds? Dude, relax…eat some carbs and put your feet up. You’re are the most liberated man on the planet right now, your breakfast tastes better than any man on this thread. Do not punish yourself further bro. There is nothing to be mad about or ashamed of. What happened, happened and couldn’t of happened any other way. Live for TODAY

[Anonymous 43]

Go get one of these. Mine is green and costs $150 a month. I drove around a beautiful lake yesterday, laughing my ass off.

Depression, yeah I had it. I thought my life was over, I was going to burn myself to death in the backyard of the house that I had renovated. Living in a minivan going to community college in the middle of Chicago winter is depressing as f~~~. Going to court every week for 6 years is depressing and expensive. Having my kids delivered to me by Chad in his work truck is depressing. Living in a tent for 5 month in Western Kansas summer, depressing as f~~~. Roll all of that up into a big ball and send it off a cliff and into the ocean.

Working every damn day to rebuild my life the way I want it, not having to compromise with anyone is exhilarating. Divorce saved my life. Walking away from all the material possessions saved my life. Being absolutely wrecked stripped away all the sentimental baggage and allowed me to experience a rebirth. I got a do over. Everything in my life has one purpose, to serve me. Not some c~~~, not my kids, not her family. Me. No one ever took care of me in marriage, I was squeezed out to the sides, or I got left overs. The c~~~ would allow me to buy things only if there was dire need, and was annoyed by my basic needs.

Best part about yesterday was the empty right seat in the car. No one there to bitch and whine. I parked the car and sat on a bench for as long as I wanted, to watch the geese, the waves and the boats. I took the pictures that I wanted with a fine expensive camera that I chose. I ate the lunch that I wanted and sat in a place of my choosing and just watched the world go by for a while. No c~~~ there to tell me she was hot, or cold, or bored, or the sun is in her eyes. No c~~~ telling me to slow down, or go that way, or its too windy in the car or turn on the radio.

I was laughing my ass off for many reasons, but chief among them was I could never have a car like this when I was married. I would never have a day to go out and f~~~ around by myself. Maybe I could go for a bike ride when the kids were in school, but only after all the house chores were done, I could never have a two seat car, I could never be off on my own, I could never cast off my responsibilities long enough to feel happy. I was satisfied in my life when I was married, like I had done my duty as a human being, house, dog, wife, kids. Satisfied, but not happy. My existence did not make me laugh out loud.

Yesterday, I felt alive and free. All I had to do yesterday was make sure I did not run out of gas, and not to crash. I saw a man in a red BMW convertible with a boy, just driving around, we passed and waved. Doing the same thing I was doing, celebrating freedom. Goddam if I could bottle up how I felt yesterday and sell it for $50 a bottle, I’s be a gazillionaire.

Today I have things to do, and I’m working on them.

The cure to your depression lies within you. Figure out what is broken in your life, and make a plan to fix it. You are a man. You are capable of this.

[Anonymous 38]

Great post brother. Truly open. I can tell you that time is a healer. You will let go of that which angers you as you work towards building the life you want. That is all you can do after great loss or waste. At least you are not trapped by children / financial support.

Today is the first day of the rest of your life. Many of us have been there. Good luck.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

When guys with wisdom beyond my years make posts like May 7 2020 just did that is why I come here. You can practically see his happiness oozing out of the screen. The guy is alive.

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

Gravel Pit wrote:

When guys with wisdom beyond my years make posts like May 7 2020 just did that is why I come here. You can practically see his happiness oozing out of the screen. The guy is alive.

Yes, he was dead yesterday but is alive today.

He is an example of a man’s rebirth.

May 7th is actually my birthday. I have had a special place in my heart for him. I sent him as much nothing as I could.

Today, I sit beside my swimming pool, drinking a beer, basking in his peace and serenity.

In 2020 we will party like hell…

Peace brothers.

Peace brothers

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

DorkShit wrote:

Your post is one of the best I have read. It shows the emotions you are going through.

As I read your post I clearly saw everything I went through. Like many brothers I didn’t have this site. I stood upon the edge of the cliff raging with emotions.

First, do nothing!
No dog. No cat. No woman. You are in search of nothing.

Red pill rage is the stage when you think like a woman.

Second, it is not her fault, she shouldn’t have been there. If you replace your wife with any other woman the outcome would have been the same.

No woman could have completed the broken you. Only a man can complete himself. Your answer is not external. Your problem is usually your mother. Mommy unresolved issues. (I say this because a mother has the most impact on us. Momma rage is internal. No woman is good. Single Mommas are the worst followed by the other mothers)

If you say your mother is the most wonderful person on earth, you have issues. No momma unicorn exists. A boy must face the momma dragon of his chaos before he can become a man. Why? Because, he can never know nothing (internal peace) until he forgives his mother. Why would a woman and mother be anything other than what they are? They will rule over you off you let them. It is their nature!

Third, it’s all a lie. Santa, NASA, moon mission, mars rovers, living on a blue marble spinning while tilted at 20 something degrees, women are equal to a man and unicorn women exist are all a lie. In fact, most everything is a lie.

Forth, I wish I could guide you and make it all better. If I did you would remain the broken man you are. You believe you need to pickup the broken pieces and put it back together. If you saw me help you, you would notice that I would see nothing. I would feel nothing.

You are going through the stages of grief over the death of your marriage.

Find peace my brother.

Certainly trying.

uchibenkei wrote:

What helped me was making goals, planning steps to reach those goals. As I progressed, I became happier. Some goals were small and some big. Some goals changed. As long as I kept setting goals for myself, i got better.

Yep, still pushing through with my goals and aspirations.

DorkShit wrote:

Your post is one of the best I have read. It shows the emotions you are going through.

As I read your post I clearly saw everything I went through. Like many brothers I didn’t have this site. I stood upon the edge of the cliff raging with emotions.

First, do nothing!
No dog. No cat. No woman. You are in search of nothing.

Red pill rage is the stage when you think like a woman.

Second, it is not her fault, she shouldn’t have been there. If you replace your wife with any other woman the outcome would have been the same.

No woman could have completed the broken you. Only a man can complete himself. Your answer is not external. Your problem is usually your mother. Mommy unresolved issues. (I say this because a mother has the most impact on us. Momma rage is internal. No woman is good. Single Mommas are the worst followed by the other mothers)

If you say your mother is the most wonderful person on earth, you have issues. No momma unicorn exists. A boy must face the momma dragon of his chaos before he can become a man. Why? Because, he can never know nothing (internal peace) until he forgives his mother. Why would a woman and mother be anything other than what they are? They will rule over you off you let them. It is their nature!

Third, it’s all a lie. Santa, NASA, moon mission, mars rovers, living on a blue marble spinning while tilted at 20 something degrees, women are equal to a man and unicorn women exist are all a lie. In fact, most everything is a lie.

Forth, I wish I could guide you and make it all better. If I did you would remain the broken man you are. You believe you need to pickup the broken pieces and put it back together. If you saw me help you, you would notice that I would see nothing. I would feel nothing.

You are going through the stages of grief over the death of your marriage.

Find peace my brother.

I left my parent’s house as soon as I was able to. If my father hadn’t died years ago, I probably would had left the area, as we live 30 mins away. She is not a bad person, however, no unicorn. I wrestle with leaving daily, but I built my home up from the ruins. I made a promise to my father that I would look over my younger sister and mother as they couldn’t manage their finances. Yea, you have a small point about growing up in a broken home, but I try to rise above it and not blame others for my life’s issues. I do not blame my ex-wife (aside from the BS s~~~ she did in the marriage), as I should had not married her in the first place. I was weak, but I corrected that as soon as I was able. I am more mad at myself for putting myself in this situation than anything else. I will get control of the situation, that I know. I am very strong willed, just I hit bumps in the road from time to time.

BigD wrote:

A lot of people with above average IQ who have problems tend to get on themselves about their problems. They keep wondering what if they made different decisions, and beat themselves up for those decisions.

Here’s the thing. Everyone has made bad decisions. Everyone has problems. Instead of dwelling on the problems themselves, work out to how to rise above these problems.

No doubt. Working on correcting each and every one. It’s just a lot to handle on my own. I just feel boxed in at times.

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

blade wrote:

What your speaking is normal . Do you keep going over s~~~ and whishing you did this or did that . It will fade .

As for f~~~ing up with friends dont worry . Let people find you .

Things do get easier as time passes .

Its good you mention how you truly feal .

Yea, it’s like a tape recorder and I cannot believe I left my frame and made some really unwise decisions. I am working through them one by one. It just takes time and patience. I fall sometimes, and I just need to look into myself and pull myself up through the bootstraps.

It’sallbs wrote:

It’s all internal, you need to reach a state of tranquility where you no longer feel any rage.

Exercise is great all you need to do is a brisk walk 2 hours a day, I’m lucky there are lots of countryside walks not far from my flat (apartment).

Many people on here have gone from red pill rage to periods of feeling low and you will come through it to the otherside and when you do it is beautiful the inner peace is total.

As for not trusting people-I’d say that’s reality based wisdom.

Lots of exercise -keep alcohol to a minimum -why don’t you join Zoom it’s busiest on Friday and Saturday but there is usually a few people on there most days.

Everyone on Zoom is highly veted so you can trust everyone-I trust Gregbo and Jan and Kenobi anyway-as for that Greg Honda -well we non of us know who he really is-hahaha

I’ll send you the link if you pm me.

Certainly trying. It’s a constant battle in myself. I’ve been on Zoom a few times. I plan to resume shortly.

Carnage wrote:

Friends? What friends? If they where your friends they wold be around, you didn’t lose friends you lose the pest.

You wasted 10 years, I wasted 14, got nothing in exchange, wrong, this is what you get The lesson, no one wins, only 5-10 of men get something, lottery is better, at least when you lose you only lose what you betted.

Rage? Depression? Is normal just learn to live with it. It generally comes from the feeling of lose, but you didn’t lose anything, just the same everyone else did or even less.

Your ex pumpkin is not a monster, is just a regular normal women, that is the basic, default setting.

99 of women you meet will be like that at best, some will be worst, there is a 1% that are clearly abnormal, but you will never find one.

Life is about boredom, the more boring your life is the better, it means you are doing it right, no problems, no dangers, food is secure, life is good.

Learn to enjoy it, because it won’t last.

Make some good points there.

Black Mask wrote:

Some marijuana strains can cheer you up. I try to get my mind off bad things by trying to keep busy if I don’t have it.

Was never a Marijuana fan. Perhaps when it becomes legal.

experienced wrote:

Since you’re not home for ten hours to a time, consider getting a Maine coon or a Cornish Rex cat.
Pets take after their owners also and IMO many being owned by THE LAYDEEZ, pick up their attitudes also.
If I were able to get a dog, I would but am gone for long times like you. The above breeds start with good dispositions and will pick up on your good ways as well. It’s called men going their own way. Each of us has a different path, sometimes it seems like wandering aimlessly, but don’t be fooled. Things WILL slowly get better. You can put in a description in ADOPT A PET and they’ll email you when they find one at the dog pound or aspca/shelter. Both my pets are effed up physically, but sure beat anything from a women’s shelter.

Perhaps. I had both cats and dogs when I was younger. Since I live in a rural area with foxes, bears and such, it would need to be a dog that could take care of itself or a bengal cat.

MoreSky wrote:

Feelings of futility are common, especially after beginning to understand that most of what has gone before is bulls~~~ when seeing things without the fog of blue-pill indoctrination.

Finding what makes YOU happy after years of satisfying other’s needs is not an instantaneous process.

Find those things and new friends will be found, if you want them.

There is no magic instant solution.
Learn to enjoy your freedom to do whatever you want, and nothing else will bother you.
If you can’t do one thing (e.g. gym), for health and/or environmental reasons, then have a go at something else completely random until you can.

For example, I have a condition that prevents me going to the gym occasionally, usually for about a week at a time.
Last time that happened I had a go at rally driving.
Nearly wiped out several times, but great fun to have a go at.
Next time I can’t go to the gym or feel bored, I think I’ll have a flying lesson or two.

I was thinking of starting to box again, but my doctor recommends against it. He said getting hit in the head, for me, is an unwise decision. I already do MMA, so I can usually block most attacks; though some do get through. It just makes me more angry and I unleash on the guy at the gym. It’s weird as I saw a video on it and I become enraged and just go off. No illegal hits, but just I was taken back by seeing that video. If I didn’t see my face, I’d think it wasn’t me.

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

blade wrote:

Always remember there is always some one on this site if you feal really f~~~ed .

Even if you dont feel like talking take the offer to go on zoom .

Even though we speak digitally on here i look at this site and the bro’s on here as friends .

Say what ya want . Its all cool .

Appreciate it brother.

Anonymous wrote:

ForeverDone wrote:

Truth be told, I am angry at myself.

We’re brainwashed to blame ourselves for others lack of control and lack of morality.

ForeverDone wrote:

I really f~~~ed my social life up.

There you go again flogging yourself for a social system that only has one purpose for men, and that’s belittlement, slander, and persecution.

You’re better than that!

ForeverDone wrote:

Why else would a wife ask for an open marriage 1.5 years into the marriage?

Because she’s a filthy whore, not a wife! Women have unlearned how to…

Good points.

joetech wrote:

You’d be surprised how much a good psychiatrist can help. After I got out of the Navy I had just gotten divorced, my daughter was crippled for life, and my mom was dying of cancer. Talk about being depressed! Outpatient counseling really helped. As for the wasted years? They weren’t wasted. The experience you gleaned from that relations~~~ will serve you for the rest of your life. The disappointment of not getting what you expected is what is most likely bothering you the most. Now you see, expectations can be disappointing. I’ve learned that when it comes to other people I shouldn’t expect a damn thing. I’m the only one I can rely on. Accepting that fact was hard. I’m not angry over wasted time anymore. And when I find myself pining for a good woman in my life, I just imagine that I’ve found her already, and it turned out to be May’s ex! That cures those feelings immediately.

Yea, we all learn from experience. I just look back at missed opportunities and just ask myself why.

Black Mask wrote:

Forgot to mention that feeling tired all the time may be an iron deficiency. Depression can leave you feeling drained as well.

Yep, that’s for sure. I also take a good multivitamin. I think my body builds resilience every time I pull myself out of it. Perhaps, it’s just wishful thinking.

JVB wrote:

Time is precious brother.
Forgive yourself
Love yourself………..and f~~~ forward. Time to move on.

Working on it. Takes time.

Christopher wrote:

Hey Forever Done. Brother I have to say playing a few music tunes – whichever ones you like – was one of the things that helped me in the hard times.

ForeverDone wrote:

I hate the heat, so the next three months are brutal on me. The heat causes my muscle pains in my spine and horrid migraines to come and just reck havoc on my body and mind. Which, further make me literally hate life. I often think it would be best to move to a cold climate year around, but that’s not available nor feasible.

Im the same. Some people thrive in cold – I am one of them – a cold shower or ice bath makes me feel great – try it may help. I was like kinda like Wim Hof years before I ever heard of him – check out his stuff on youtube.

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Yea, I do that too. There’s a lake near by that I swim in from time to time. It’s always cold. The Joshua Tree is a good album. I listen to a lot of music and read a lot. That helps. Perhaps it’s this, to me, crappy weather that is causing the reflection. Never understood why people like hot humid weather. It’s uncomfortable. When it’s cold, you can always add another layer. When it’s hot, well, you’re f~~~ed. My body runs about a degree hotter than 98.6, so I’m nearly always hot during June – August. Add rain and it just makes it worse.

Christopher wrote:

ForeverDone wrote:

Truth be told, I am angry at myself. I wasted over 10 years with her and got nothing out of it.

Know you did nothing ‘wrong’ society has conditioned men into getting married – you ‘learned’ a valuable lesson – you used your intelligence to escape the gynocentric matrix. Let the conditioning, any lack of self esteem, beating yourself up over the past – let it all fade away now – its in the past it is gone now. Much more awaits you. Be patient with yourself. Give yourself permission to do absolutely nothing or absolutely ANYTHING you feel like. Make a list of the things that are ‘OKAY’ in your life. For example, your health if you have it (as some don’t), your finances, etc. Cherish those things.

I too felt like an IDIOT after falling for my ex bitch and losing my sense of dignity in the relationship. Its mentally head wrecking when a bitch is cooing that she loves you one minute and then screaming at you an hour later. Ending the relationship got me back on the road to recovering my sense of dignity. I also was immensely angry at myself for allowing what happened to happen.

ForeverDone wrote:

I just feel lost. I do not believe in psychologists

We are on a journey and sometimes it is REAL f~~~ing hard – these are lessons. Sometimes its joyful. You are alive. YOU ARE FREE to be YOU. The conditioning of society is like the unwanted unneeded dirt we clean away from the pot – underneath the dirt is a REAL person – your ‘pure’ consciousness – of an eternal blissful soul. Keep cleaning away the dirt – greater self realization, happiness and much more awaits you.

STOP and see how you do you feel right NOW. Take 2 choices and feel which choice of the 2 makes you feel better – take the path of least resistance and choose the choice that makes you feel a little better than the other less desirable choice. Note this does not mean you just keep drinking beer all day everyday (for example as for me too much beer day after day makes me feel awful but you get what I mean right?). Keep doing this in your life and you will be amazed at where you may end up – happiness and bliss and life changes may occur. Just don’t blame me brother – alright !

Good words of advice brother. Thank you. I am trying. Sometimes, I fall off the wagon and feel like why did I put myself in this situation. What is funny or ironic is that I always said I’d never get married, and I did. Who would had thought it would have such a wide array of emotions and repercussions on my life. Even with me protecting my assets so she got s~~~, the legal fees and court ordered medical premiums I had to pay were just crazy. I could meet a billionaire woman tomorrow and I still wouldn’t marry again. One, I can take care of myself. Two, I refuse to go through that s~~~ show again. It’s just not worth it. Not in this day and age.

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My dogs have really helped me. Whenever I am sad they know and always come over to cheer me up. I am lucky I have the time to take care of them though. I know some breeds require less maintenance. Or maybe find someone to let them out once a day while you are gone. I would highly recommend a dog though. Also, when I get sad and lonely and start thinking about the C~~~ and the few things that were good, I just sit outside somewhere quiet and remember all of the yelling, screaming, lies, and manipulation of the former C~~~ and it doesn’t take long to stop missing that s~~~. I think this passes over time as it doesn’t happen very often now. It’s easy to remember the good times, when this happens make yourself remember why you left that piece of s~~~ in the first place. True friends will find you. I found most of mine saw through her bulls~~~ eventually. If they don’t, f~~~ em. My ex did a smear campaign from hell. None of it stuck because the truth comes out in the end. I had one friend who I met after being married and then after the divorce they said “I’ve never met this guy. I like this guy.” Which just means I returned to my normal self after 12 years of mental abuse. It takes time. Good luck man.

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