How do you cope when God brings you nothing but misery?

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  • #786200
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    Anonymous
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    Ask God to give you the strenght to endure.

    #786239
    Faust For Science
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    Ask God to give you the strenght to endure.

    While I appreciate your sympathy. And I believe your words are sincere. I believe you missed the point of the topic.

    *Bangs head against wall*

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    Anonymous
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    Ask God to give you the strenght to endure.

    While I appreciate your sympathy. And I believe your words are sincere. I believe you missed the point of the topic.

    *Bangs head against wall*

    Tell me what the point was please.

    #786246
    Faust For Science
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    Ask God to give you the strenght to endure.

    While I appreciate your sympathy. And I believe your words are sincere. I believe you missed the point of the topic.

    *Bangs head against wall*

    Tell me what the point was please.

    The title of the thread should be obvious.

    I do not want an argument.

    Thank you. Have a good life.

    #786247
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    Anonymous
    54

    Ok.
    I do not blame my hardships on God.

    Life just gives you what it gives you.

    I endure.

    I aim to over come.

    And I think of Job.

    And I dont complain.

    And I sure as s~~~ NEVER look for sympathy.

    Thats how.

    #786252
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    MACHO
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    Faust For Science you seem utterly lost, suffering and out of ideas.. yet you seem on the fence.. like an agnostic! if you decide to believe in a benevolent creator then you will have a shot at starting a relationship with him that would eventually gets you out of that tailspin!

    You must own a better Crystal ball than I
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    Anonymous
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    I think we are to take the title of his thread litteraly.

    How do YOU cope.

    Give your personal account of how you deal with hardship.

    #786277
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    Carnage
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    Hummm not much to say on my end.

    If the righteous path is not for you, start walking the wicked one.

    To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

    #786289
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    NerdTunneler
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    Learn to pray brother…Not the repetitive, mumbling hail marys or other stuff but pray…The Lords prayer is the pattern on how to pray and not to keep repeating it…

    I read it awhile back and one thing that I remembered was the part where “give us this day our daily bread”…It was pointed that we just need to ask the things that we need for our daily survival…It does not ask for yesterdays bread or tomorrows bread but our daily bread…We cannot handle the burden of the past and the future…Leave it to God…

    This is something I found close to what I read on the pattern of praying…Hope it sheds some light and give you some peace…

    So Jesus gives us a pattern to bring balance to our praying.

    The Structure of this prayer

    Let me give us a fast overview of the pattern of this prayer. A bird’s eye view will give us a chance to see what the whole prayer looks like.

    First, it begins and ends with praise to God. There are 68 words in this prayer. 37 of them are words of praise to God. That is 54%

    There are 31 words that are petitions for ourselves. 46% of the prayer.

    Immediately that speaks volumes to me. At least half of our praying should be giving, not getting; praising not petitioning; adoring, not asking.

    But let me clear up a point of confusion here. Remember: there is no power in praise. We do not praise God to butter him up so we can then hit him up for what we want. We do not praise him so that we can pry more things out of him. That would be flattery and corruption. There is no power, no leverage, no manipulation brought about by praise. Insincere flattery is not praise it is presumption, the presumption that we can con God into giving us more than his wisdom and goodness would grant.

    There is no power in praise, but the praise of God is what those bring to God who have seen God’s goodness and greatness and come with adoration and affection and thanksgiving. Praise is best that flows from love. All great praying begins and ends with the praise of God.

    Does that make God vain? Conceited? Oh no! The praise of God may very well be intended by him to help redeem us from self-preoccupation, and self-adulation.

    The Content of this Prayer.

    Our Father in heaven,
    Hallowed be your name.
    Your kingdom come
    Your will be done,
    On earth as it is in heaven.
    Give us this day our dally bread
    And forgive us our debts/ trespasses/sins
    As we forgive our debtors/ those who trespasses/sin against us
    And lead us not into temptation
    But deliver us from evil/evil one
    For yours is the Kingdom
    And the Power and the Glory forever, Amen.
    (Matt 6:7-13, Luke 11:2-4, & Church Tradition)

    The first lines begin with the reminder of the One to whom we pray. I would draw our attention to three items in the very first line.

    His name is Father. (God’s best name!)
    He is the Father who is in Heaven. (that is, it is God who is our father!)
    He is “OUR” Father.

    That is prime reality in this first line. He is not “MY” father. He is ours. And notice the ongoing litany: “Give US our bread…Forgive US our debts…Lead US not, deliver US from evil.” This prayer has no place for selfishness. If you come alone, please don’t come! If you come with others on your heart, by all means come boldly to the throne of Grace and find help.

    This prayer has 6 petitions all together. It is interesting to see how they are divided.

    The first three requests are concerned with the praise of God. They are prayers that I am to help fulfill. They are prayers that the church and world are intended to fulfill.
    Hallowed be your name
    Your kingdom come
    Your will be done

    The last three requests are concerned with the needs of the human family. They are prayers that we are asking God to fulfill
    We ask for bread,
    for forgiveness, and
    for safety.

    But notice these three more closely.
    The request for bread is a present tense concern.
    The request for forgiveness is asking God to deal with our past.
    The request for safety is a concern for the future.

    That says to me that as I pray, the past, the present and the future of my life is to be brought before God. Nothing needs to be left out.

    But I also notice that only one of these requests deal with the needs of my body, while two of these requests deal with my spiritual needs. It is interesting that the needs that are so paramount in our culture are only a minor part of this pattern for our praying.

    I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

    #786395
    Monk
    Monk
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    Either way, those whom hurt me are rewarded and seen as heroes for hurting me.

    For the moment. Their behaviour will return to them in due course.

    ‘Why me?’ ‘Why do the innocent suffer?’ The problem of evil is the great conumdrum, yet is solved by the simple understanding that there are no innocent people.

    Appreciating how karma works – and how to react to it – has enabled me to find peace in many difficult situations.

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    Autolite
    Autolite
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    Ask God to give you the strenght to endure.

    There ya go Faust! There’s your solution. Ask the guy who YOU claim is f~~~ing you over for help. Try that and get back to us on it.

    Let us know how it goes…

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    Hermit
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    Part of the problem is artritis. I know it has been there since I was a child, but they always told me it was in my head. They said they would do blood tests, with blood they drew for me. But, they likely did not do those tests

    You see. I am poor and finding a problem would cost them money.

    After I was crippled, I was finally able to find a doctor whom would agree to doing an an x-ray. In the doctor’s words I had “horrible” arthritis.

    Before any of you suggest I sue. Keep in mind I am broke and they have law firms on speed dial.

    I am not joking why I say I am screwed ever ways.

    I have no options for justice for myself.

    The only options I have in this life are to be the monster in the story, or being the forgotten wimp that never fought back.

    Either way, those whom hurt me are rewarded and seen as heroes for hurting me.

    I wasn’t going to post this as you appear to be blaming God for your misery. However, from what you have written here, I am guessing that you have rheumatoid arthritis, which is a disease that I used to have, so this is why I feel I need to respond to your question.

    The pain was very bad and affected my every day activities. I couldn’t walk right. I couldn’t even turn a doorknob without horrible pain in my joints. I was told by the doctors that this disease has no cure and they could only treat it with drugs such as methotrexate which would help keep the pain at bay.

    The specific disease or problems you are experiencing do not matter. When I received my diagnosis, I did not blame God. This was a time I needed Him the most so I reached out to Him. I prayed. I had a friend pray for me. When my friend prayed for me, I felt something go through me which I believe was God’s healing power. I know it was.

    I haven’t taken the methotrexate for several years now. I have no more pain. God healed me and took away that disease. What other explanation could there be that I no longer have the incurable disease? You can say it went into “remission”, but I believe that is a word used by people who cannot understand that God heals people…….not only of diseases and pain, but any kind of misery you may be experiencing.

    I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything. You asked how someone copes with misery and I honestly answered your question. I cope with it by not blaming God, but praising Him and asking Him for His help. He helps me. I know He does.

    ……..and I am now asking God to help you……….

    The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

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    Autolite
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    We’ve got one Christian who says that his god is giving him an ass kicking and we’ve got other Christians telling him to ask the god who’s giving him the ass kicking for help on how to deal with getting an ass kicking.

    I knew at some point that this thread was going get interesting…

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    #786646
    Faust For Science
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    I wasn’t going to post this as you appear to be blaming God for your misery. However, from what you have written here, I am guessing that you have rheumatoid arthritis, which is a disease that I used to have, so this is why I feel I need to respond to your question.

    It isn’t just the arthritis. It is a hundred other things both big and small where I have screwed over and harmed at ever time.

    The laws of probability state I should catch a break and gain an opportunity somewhere. That has not happened.

    Sophocles, Oedipus Rex: “Alas, how terrible is wisdom when it brings no profit to the man that’s wise.”

    #786648
    Faust For Science
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    Faust For Science you seem utterly lost, suffering and out of ideas.. yet you seem on the fence.. like an agnostic!

    I have plenty of ideas and talent. But, I am not allowed an outlet for talent and ideas.

    #786649
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    Faust For Science
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    We’ve got one Christian who says that his god is giving him an ass kicking and we’ve got other Christians telling him to ask the god who’s giving him the ass kicking for help on how to deal with getting an ass kicking.

    I knew at some point that this thread was going get interesting…

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    At least someone has found humor somewhere in this mess.

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    Hermit
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    I wasn’t going to post this as you appear to be blaming God for your misery. However, from what you have written here, I am guessing that you have rheumatoid arthritis, which is a disease that I used to have, so this is why I feel I need to respond to your question.

    It isn’t just the arthritis. It is a hundred other things both big and small where I have screwed over and harmed at ever time.

    The laws of probability state I should catch a break and gain an opportunity somewhere. That has not happened.

    Sophocles, Oedipus Rex: “Alas, how terrible is wisdom when it brings no profit to the man that’s wise.”

    I can obviously have no idea of the magnitude of your despair. I am sorry that you have gone through such misery. I wish that upon no one. I have gone through some pretty rough times in my life and I of course do not like being miserable and I don’t want anyone else to be either.

    My previous post……I did pray for you. I was not using your thread to preach to you or anyone else. I have no agenda hidden or otherwise with the exception of wanting to help you. I truly believe in what I said and I honestly gave you the best answer that I thought could help you the most. I really hope that your misery soon comes to an end.

    The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

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    Anonymous
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    Sometimes people arent really looking for a solution.

    Thats when I no longer care.

    #786665
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    Hermit
    Hermit
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    Sometimes people arent really looking for a solution.

    Thats when I no longer care.

    I would normally move along without comment as I don’t think anything I say would help very many people, not because I believe that I have nothing of any value to offer, but because an increasing number of people only prefer to talk and not listen, but this is one of the few times I felt led to do or say something.

    The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

    #786670
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    Anonymous
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    Sometimes people arent really looking for a solution.

    Thats when I no longer care.

    I would normally move along without comment as I don’t think anything I say would help very many people, not because I believe that I have nothing of any value to offer, but because an increasing number of people only want to talk and not listen, but this is one of the few times I felt led to do or say something.

    Very nice of you.

    But look at his responces.

    Anything said, he rejects.

    I dont bother with people that do that.

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